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The return of Spooky Ougi!  I was never a big fan of Nadeko, but i think she come really far on character development. And of course the clone idea would be very wrong lol |
| Four Nadekos, a new Ougi, Yotsugi spinning forever xD Interesting to see more of Nadeko. I really like her. Her future is depending on her manga success, I wonder how this arc will unfold.  |
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| Was it just my hearing or did the subs really translate "otokonoko" as just "boy" when Nadeko is talking about Ougi? |
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| Another terrific episode with the highlight being both Renai circulation and Mousou Express playing in the background at times. I never have liked Gaen either as a character or a person, so want an arc focussing on her replacement XD. |
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
| <3 ty shaft, love the irl elements returning |
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Was it just my hearing or did the subs really translate "otokonoko" as just "boy" when Nadeko is talking about Ougi?
| @Thoguht Yeah, a bit of a tricky one without having the LN to check what it meant there. In Japanese, otokonoko (男の子) typically means "boy" or "young boy," where "otoko" (男) means "male" or "man," and "ko" (子) means "child." However, otokonoko (男の娘) is also a slang term used in otaku culture to refer to a male character who dresses and often behaves in a very feminine manner, resembling a girl. In this context, "otokonoko" is a play on words, with "娘" (which usually means "daughter" or "girl") replacing the usual "子" to indicate the cross-dressing aspect. There's a chance Nisio meant it as a word play, since past Ougi was a boy crossdressing as a girl, while current self is just a boy. It's probably best to not translate this word there and should of just been left as otokonoko, though that could also be seen as unprofessional to not translate a word. |
| The direction is really great. This gives me high hopes for the new madoka movie coming. I'm really enjoying this new season. |
| “I won’t rely on anyone anymore. I don’t care if no one understands.” – Homura Akemi |
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To the Novel readers
1. Did the first episode adapted the entire Orokamonogatari ?
2. Are they adapting Nademonogatari before Wazamonogatari ?
3. In which Arc do we see Shinobu ?
No spoilers pls
1. Did the first episode adapted the entire Orokamonogatari ?
2. Are they adapting Nademonogatari before Wazamonogatari ?
3. In which Arc do we see Shinobu ?
No spoilers pls
| @3033 1. they only did part 3 of Orokamonogatari called Tsukihi Undo, maybe because it's relevant here with the Ononoki Nadeko relations. It's unknown if they'll do the first two parts as well, but very likely they won't be in this first 14 episode batch. I'm not sure of the rationale, but doing it in order would of meant they needed at least at least half a season on short episodic stories, while Nademonogatari that they're doing starting from episode 2 is a strong single arc that will span a few episodes. |
| Yeah!!!! WOOOOOO! 5xNadeko is exactly what this world needed during these trying times. OMG Ougi hi! o/ The backtracks are going Monogatari mode again. I am living lavishly on Saturday. |
| "Sure let me bring the almost evil god version of myself back as a shikigami, what could possibly go wrong?". LOL |
| senjougahara mentioned 🗣🗣 as a fan of a few long-running series, what nadeko was saying and comparing it to her life was hitting home. we love nadeko. but man, i thought it was araragi on the cycle but that mf ougi baited very well lmaoo. i was also really looking forward to the op, we missing it ahh. my favourite characters are still missing so far, but it was still another amazing episode. |
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| Looks like this next story is Nadeko focused, which I’m happy about because she’s been out of the picture pretty much ever since Kaiki dealt with her god mode. And wow, I actually can’t believe the situation her and Ononoki got themselves in even happened lol, when Ononoki first mentioned Nadeko making four copies of herself I knew we were about to see her past selves return since they were touched on at the beginning of the episode, but I also knew this was a terrible idea because Nadeko also mentioned how wildly different each version of herself is, so getting them all to work together was never happening lol, the biggest problem tho is the return of Nadeko’s god version, it can’t be good that they just manifested a god lol, also the ost sounding like Renai Circulation in this scene was a nice touch. That being said, it is a very fun situation, also an absolute dream that there are now five Nadekos existing at once depending on how you feel about her lol, I’ve always enjoyed Nadeko myself even in her lower points. Also nice to see Ougi again, looks like the version of her cosplaying as Araragi is sticking around which makes how she is in Hanamonogatari make sense, and I’m not sure if I should be referring to her as a guy or not now lol, I just can’t undo how I know her, but the important thing is that she’s still our silly Ougi, that bicycle flip she did was radical. Some other things I wanted to mention, like there being a lot of live action scenes in this episode, not against it tho, there were some beautiful shots and they actually work for Monogatari. Also, not sure about the whole 10,000 hours rule, they didn’t include the fact we need to sleep in there lol, I’m sure there’s some truth to it tho. And still no OP unfortunately, hopefully we get it eventually, I know the TV versions of Monogatari seemed to skip the OP a lot so it’s nothing new but still. |
TheColonel76Jul 13, 2024 6:08 PM
Reply to AkeZZZ
Love how Nadeko needed to capture her other selves and they portrayed this Pokemon-esque scene.
| @AkeZZZ Noticed the style and immediately knew it was Pokemon, even has the Gameboy battery light, love it |
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0451 said:
No OP in this episode either. Sad. But I did recently learn that the TV broadcast version of Bakemonogatari and possibly the other seasons also didn't have OPs in some episodes and they later added in the BD versions or in later episodes of the arcs. So, I'm guessing the same sort of thing will happen again.
No OP in this episode either. Sad. But I did recently learn that the TV broadcast version of Bakemonogatari and possibly the other seasons also didn't have OPs in some episodes and they later added in the BD versions or in later episodes of the arcs. So, I'm guessing the same sort of thing will happen again.
Thanks for the explanation. This is the first time I watching the TV broadcast version.
So, I'm really waiting for the opening but it hasn't been released yet... but I believe it will definitely be included among the episodes of this arc ^^
| @MuNaRi Additionally, the last 3 episodes of Bakemonogatari also didn't air on TV. They were originally released as ONAs only I believe. Something similar might happen again with Off Season & Monster Season where some episodes would be excluded in the TV broadcast version (which is what's currently airing) in favor of giving them a separate release on Blu-ray or something else. I kinda wish they didn't do this again. I wouldn't mind waiting a bit longer if it meant all episodes could've been released normally. |
| The entire scene from the bicycle incident between Nadeko and Ougi reminded me a lot the beginning of Kabukimonogatari ep. 2, when Koyomi and Shinobu were exploring around and met the Araragi kid version, while "Magaimono Sonomono Onna" was playing in the background. I really liked that scene. And... what can I say about the whole episode. I consider myself a fan of Shaft, but I can't avoid my thoughts about they can't do anything better in order to improve their animation art, because they're already at the peak of animation and storytelling. However, this episode showed me I'm wrong. And I'm so glad for that. |
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| Loved the Pokemon type scene on a Game Boy. |
| Drawing four versions of your past selves to make them come to life and help you out, what could possibly go wrong? I am curious to see Nadeko's character development through how she will deal with her past selves. |
| This was another great ep! Love this season a lot already! |
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| Its so nice to see the long dialogue scenes between characters come back! It felt like that was missing in the last episode. Storyboarding was amazing and I'm so glad to see Ougi back. Also loved the Mousou Express/Renai Circulation instrumental track we got 2/3 into the episode! |
| The most INSANE premise of an arc in all of Monogatari in all honesty, like having to confronts FOUR of your past selves during the entire story as clones is genuinely one of the most astonishing premise I've ever seen and it makes me genuinely scream from joy. THE ACTUALLY PUT THE FUCKING RENAI CIRCULATION BASSLINE WHEN SHE WAS DRAWING HER 4 SELVES, AAAAHHHH KOUSAKI SATORU YOU GENIUS OF A MAN ! |
| this show makes me so happy bruh fantastic, lovely episode, nadeko and yotsugi's dynamic this season is so fun to watch and SEEING OUGI AGAIN AAAAAAAA so so good, can't wait for next week THEY DON'T MISS |
"Leonardo... it wasn't, by any means, only your eyes that we welcomed into Libra." - Klaus von Reinherz |
| it so hard watching this show because I want to be able to binge it since one episode a week kills me but at the same time I can’t stop myself from watching them as they air; truly first world problems I’m just glad this arc seems like it will be mainly about Nadeko because she might be my favorite character in this show besides Araragi |
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| Huh kinda surprised there wasn't an opening, i was half expecting after ep1 they'd start doing the traditional custom openings for each characters sung by their VA's but maybe next episode copium? Wait this Nadeko arc low-key cooking into something fire. I honestly think Nadeko imo has had some of the most interesting character developments and arcs in this series, so an arc that focuses on a current day Nadeko facing her very different past selves sounds amazing in general and maybe as a way to tie her story up for the time being. Looks like we'll definitely be getting a lot of self reflection from her current self on the why's of some of her actions and her mindsets at the time which are going to be interesting af, seeing each personalities interactions to one another also sounds really funny, like Timid Nadeko interacting with Wrath sounds like one party cringing at the other, or i could imagine Flirt and Snake God both shaking hands over how much they love Araragi. Also interested to see more of her present personality, this ep already seemed to spell out a lot about her current mindset like she isn't completely happy with everything around her but has found more inner peace and balance within herself. Yeah looking back on it now, her characters and personalities varied so differently from one another yet still managed to make somewhat coherent sense plot and character wise. The one's i'm most looking forward to her seeing again would probably be Wrath because i kinda wanna know how her current self would look back on her outburst at that point of the story, and Snake God because it was probably her lowest point and point of almost complete insanity, but also because Snake God had the most unhinged and goofy personality out of all 5 and probably also my favourite. The remixed renai circulation and Mousou Express were very much welcomed, such iconic tracks, also another reason i was kinda looking forward to and OP theme this ep so to see if they could make a likewise iconic successor. "A completely unwilling cutting of bangs by a friend ¥0 (tax. incl)" had me laughing a lot more then it should of lol. |
Code0018Jul 16, 2024 10:54 PM
 "yabe." |
Reply to 3033
To the Novel readers
1. Did the first episode adapted the entire Orokamonogatari ?
2. Are they adapting Nademonogatari before Wazamonogatari ?
3. In which Arc do we see Shinobu ?
No spoilers pls
1. Did the first episode adapted the entire Orokamonogatari ?
2. Are they adapting Nademonogatari before Wazamonogatari ?
3. In which Arc do we see Shinobu ?
No spoilers pls
| @3033 1 is already answered but yes Sodachi Fiasco and Suruga Bonehead are skipped. 2. Yes. We are currently on Nadeko Draw which is Nademonogatari (there's only 1 arc in Nademonogatari). 3. The immediate next arc (which is the first arc of Wazamonogatari) according the official website, + and also the one after (Shinobumonogatari). |
| the goat is here, I been waiting to get a nadeko arc for a minute her conclusion in season two was perfect made her top 3 mono characters personally for me. I lowkey got scared with the ending why the school, If I did something like her kicking the door out and screaming at her classmates I wouldn't step foot so the fact she even went there shows she grew as a character fr.(not being a shutin) but she kinda has to tho. |
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| I wasn't very convinced by the first episode but the second was a lot stronger and more interesting in my opinion. |
| I wish I could create 4 more me to divide my work! kekeke |
| Of course making four copies of different Nadekos would be a bad idea, especially the one with the snake hair. That "Renai Circulation" music while she draws herself was great though. And that Pokemon reference caught me off guard xD |
| Ah hell yeah Nadeko time. The Renai Circulation and Mousou Express motifs in the ost were so good. |
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| Nadeko has a lot of personalities that are not so interdependent lol. |
| As if one Nadeko wasn't enough, now we have four more to deal with and the ones from her past annoying times, oof. Masterplan from Ononoki, peace peace! Good to see Ougi as well. |
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| Ougi is here!!! But now it's time to help Nadeko because Ononoki made 4 new Nadeko to help her with her manga but they all escaped... well I won't complain that there are 5 different Nadeko in their world now lol |
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