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| I agree with the sentiment that this was a great but frustrating episode to watch. Regarding Kano's mom, I think she's a manipulative and ruthless person that will bring down anyone that stands in her way but at the same time can make a person a star if they follow her guidance. About Kano, she shouldn't have punched that girl in the face especially in front of others but her reason for doing so was understandable although she and the group paid a hefty price for that. Regarding Mahiru, I don't think she realizes what Kano has gone through with her mom because if she knew I don't thinks she would've taken on that project but at the end of the day Mahiru had already committed to doing a video for JELEE so she should've stuck with that first. |
that was honestly a depressing last few seconds  |
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| I think Kano's mother is the manipulative kind and intentionally got Mahiru to draw the art for her knowing that JELEE was going to release a new MV (with art drawn by Mahiru) in the same timeframe as that idol unit's live to mess up Kano's plans. Can't really blame Mahiru either since she have not learnt more about the nature of Kano's mother. The first multi-episode arc and it ended with 2 sad jellyfish that can't swim in the night. |
yhagniJun 1, 2024 12:35 PM
| I thought the drama was well executed. Not sure why other people think it is "forced". I knew after the end of the last episode that something like this was likely to happen based on earlier foreshadowing so I'm confused as to why other people consider it "forced". The whole series had this story lingering in the background to come to the fore later and now it is happening. Everything has been leading up to this confrontation, even the seemingly one-off side stories such as the independent idol, the only question was how it would be done. Using the best friend of Kano as the accelerant for the conflict makes sense given their relationship to each other (not romantically speaking, as fellow artists in the general sense) compared to the heavily corporatized mother. Kano obviously has complicated feelings about her mom and Mahiru working for her with her old idol group. Mahiru views it as possible once in a lifetime opportunity while being conflicted about working for her friend's mom. The mom could be lying about not trying to pry Mahiru from Kano, but it also appears she genuinely believes Mahiru has talent that should be recognized. TBD on what is reality on this, but both options seem believable right now. Manipulation can still come from a genuine place so I'm not ruling out anything. Now that we have learned about the rest of Kano's backstory things are only going to escalate from here. I'm looking forward to seeing the how the rest of the anime unfolds. |
| From the opening artist tweet : "I can finally say it, this is the reason the number 9 onwards doesn't show up in the lyrics..." If you check it, there are all numbers up to 8. (well, 5 is as May) As the lyrics are clearly from Kano pov, showing her struggles until she meets with Yoru and how that "saved" Kano... does this mean... I'll just drop this, have your own interpretations. I found this so intriguing and wanted to share. |
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| I feel really bad for Kano. She became an idol for her mother, that was her purpose and it all fell apart and her mother chose her ambition over her daughter without hesitation. Of course she was and still is traumatized by it. Though lively when she's with her friends, she never recovered. Mahiru did nothing wrong, it's within her right to pursue big opportunities as an illustrator, but of course it would feel like a betrayal to Kano although it's not. And so the balance and trust was broken. This episode probably made everybody feel like it's the end for the group, though it can't be. So I look forward to what's to come. |
| That wasn't forced, this is how altercations with impulsive personality people go. It's not pretty, her character can't be fixed (realistically), something she has to live with. They made the effort to represent it like she loses control under anger, which would be accurate. Anger management may help. Anyway, it was the best episode since episode 1 and it needs an even better episode to pull itself out of this spot without butchering the series. That half moon was beautiful. |
watsymJun 1, 2024 1:11 PM
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Letterbox effect just hits so different in episodes like this. Masterful use of direction and cinematography. One of the most gut wrenching episodes I’ve seen recently.
Finally got Kano backstory and the world doesn’t deserve her. The way she idolised her mother and just wanted her acceptance while her mom couldn’t even be bothered to show up to her class on presentation day just broke my heart.. most parents would kill for a kid as pure and obedient as Kano, and her mom only cared about using her to further her career, gross.
Mahiru rep took a major hit in this one for me. She’s gonna have to redeem herself. Came off very snakey. Mfs are upset about me saying it, but planning all this stuff with Yukine when you know she and Kano aren’t on good terms and Kano has had some family issues in the past is very snakey to me! Yes, I get that she wants to advance her own career and grow to love her art and herself, that’s very valid, but I’m not working with my best friend’s mom who I know she has beef with or at least aren’t on good terms. It’s just messy.
And even during Mahiru and Yukine meeting you can already see signs. Like when Mahiru brought up Kano and she’s like “oh you mean Nonoka” she don’t even see her daughter as a person just as a commodity or product. Just like she sees Mahiru’s art the same. Calling Mahiru “sensei” and gassing her shit up.. she’s not slick man 💀 she’ll turn on you just like she did Kano when it’s no longer convenient.
The other thing for me is if you really feel like you doing nothing wrong, you wouldn’t even feel the need to call Kano and get her blessing. The fact Mahiru did that tells me she knew this was something that she probably shouldn’t be doing. Kano was clearly skeptical otp about it too 🤷🏾♂️ do I think Mahiru is a horrible person? No, but she did some snake shit. But again, respect to Yaku sensei for creating a situation that could very much happen irl because girlfriends can be messy as hell.
Talked about all that and ain’t even get into Mero running the YouTube expose page. That’s so fucking gross and Kano was very justified for punching her in the face. I’d rather lose the right way than win the wrong way and kano clearly felt the same.
Now Kano did say some nasty shit at the end to Mahiru but you know, Mahiru deserved it 🤷🏾♂️ and Kano was just desperate to not lose the only friends she’s had. After seemingly finally escaping her loner past and developing relationships now she sees her closest friend potentially drifting away from her with her MOTHER of all people, the same mother who when told her daughter’s concerns about not having friends or fitting in just brought up her dream of selling out Tōkyō some. ofc she’d snap.
Could go on and on about it but it was amazing, didn’t even touch on everything I want to but I’m on vacation and need to go to the beach lmao. This episode fucked me up though. 10/10 as usual from my goat Yaku sensei. If there’s ever a Tomozaki s3 and 4 it’ll have stuff like this too.
Finally got Kano backstory and the world doesn’t deserve her. The way she idolised her mother and just wanted her acceptance while her mom couldn’t even be bothered to show up to her class on presentation day just broke my heart.. most parents would kill for a kid as pure and obedient as Kano, and her mom only cared about using her to further her career, gross.
Mahiru rep took a major hit in this one for me. She’s gonna have to redeem herself. Came off very snakey. Mfs are upset about me saying it, but planning all this stuff with Yukine when you know she and Kano aren’t on good terms and Kano has had some family issues in the past is very snakey to me! Yes, I get that she wants to advance her own career and grow to love her art and herself, that’s very valid, but I’m not working with my best friend’s mom who I know she has beef with or at least aren’t on good terms. It’s just messy.
And even during Mahiru and Yukine meeting you can already see signs. Like when Mahiru brought up Kano and she’s like “oh you mean Nonoka” she don’t even see her daughter as a person just as a commodity or product. Just like she sees Mahiru’s art the same. Calling Mahiru “sensei” and gassing her shit up.. she’s not slick man 💀 she’ll turn on you just like she did Kano when it’s no longer convenient.
The other thing for me is if you really feel like you doing nothing wrong, you wouldn’t even feel the need to call Kano and get her blessing. The fact Mahiru did that tells me she knew this was something that she probably shouldn’t be doing. Kano was clearly skeptical otp about it too 🤷🏾♂️ do I think Mahiru is a horrible person? No, but she did some snake shit. But again, respect to Yaku sensei for creating a situation that could very much happen irl because girlfriends can be messy as hell.
Talked about all that and ain’t even get into Mero running the YouTube expose page. That’s so fucking gross and Kano was very justified for punching her in the face. I’d rather lose the right way than win the wrong way and kano clearly felt the same.
Now Kano did say some nasty shit at the end to Mahiru but you know, Mahiru deserved it 🤷🏾♂️ and Kano was just desperate to not lose the only friends she’s had. After seemingly finally escaping her loner past and developing relationships now she sees her closest friend potentially drifting away from her with her MOTHER of all people, the same mother who when told her daughter’s concerns about not having friends or fitting in just brought up her dream of selling out Tōkyō some. ofc she’d snap.
Could go on and on about it but it was amazing, didn’t even touch on everything I want to but I’m on vacation and need to go to the beach lmao. This episode fucked me up though. 10/10 as usual from my goat Yaku sensei. If there’s ever a Tomozaki s3 and 4 it’ll have stuff like this too.
Marinate1016 said: Mahiru rep took a major hit in this one for me. She’s gonna have to redeem herself. Came off very snakey. I disagree pretty strongly with this take. Mahiru told Kano about the meeting with her mom. Asked her directly about her issue with her mom. She even asked Mei for more details about her mom after Kano declined to elaborate. Not to mention Kiui's advice about putting herself first is extremely accurate. This could be a once in a lifetime opportunity for Mahiru. She did her best to approach the issue as honestly and directly as possible as she navigated her own conflicting feelings about considering this job offer. That isn't to say I don't expect her to reconcile with Kano in some fashion later, I seriously doubt she is going to totally sell out for the corporate option given the themes in this story. |
Seansy said: Marinate1016 said: Mahiru rep took a major hit in this one for me. She’s gonna have to redeem herself. Came off very snakey. I disagree pretty strongly with this take. Mahiru told Kano about the meeting with her mom. Asked her directly about her issue with her mom. She even asked Mei for more details about her mom after Kano declined to elaborate. Not to mention Kiui's advice about putting herself first is extremely accurate. This could be a once in a lifetime opportunity for Mahiru. She did her best to approach the issue as honestly and directly as possible as she navigated her own conflicting feelings about considering this job offer. That isn't to say I don't expect her to reconcile with Kano in some fashion later, I seriously doubt she is going to totally sell out for the corporate option given the themes in this story. You’re entitled to your opinion, me and the homies have ours. |
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| One of my favourite episodes if not the best one. Kanos backstory was so sad & painful she was in the right but her mother ditched her for her "dreams". Her song at the end was brilliant and depressing at the same time Rie Takahashi really brought her A game as usual. She snapped at Yoru maybe justifiably from her POV and regretted that immediately. From Mahiru standpoint she wanted to progress her career nothing wrong in that but she calling their time "fun but wrong" was not appreciable. I have a really bad feeling about this if she takes an L here it would be catastrophic for her already fragile confidence there is good chance Yukine is just exploiting her (hope not) The drama was well laid out from few episodes back at was executed reasonably don't get why people calling it forced. Also found some nice similarities with Oshi no Ko(obvious considering same studio) I hope Mahiru & Kano patch up don't want a sad end for such a wonderful show. Again #Kanodidnothingwrong |
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Letterbox effect just hits so different in episodes like this. Masterful use of direction and cinematography. One of the most gut wrenching episodes I’ve seen recently.
Finally got Kano backstory and the world doesn’t deserve her. The way she idolised her mother and just wanted her acceptance while her mom couldn’t even be bothered to show up to her class on presentation day just broke my heart.. most parents would kill for a kid as pure and obedient as Kano, and her mom only cared about using her to further her career, gross.
Mahiru rep took a major hit in this one for me. She’s gonna have to redeem herself. Came off very snakey. Mfs are upset about me saying it, but planning all this stuff with Yukine when you know she and Kano aren’t on good terms and Kano has had some family issues in the past is very snakey to me! Yes, I get that she wants to advance her own career and grow to love her art and herself, that’s very valid, but I’m not working with my best friend’s mom who I know she has beef with or at least aren’t on good terms. It’s just messy.
And even during Mahiru and Yukine meeting you can already see signs. Like when Mahiru brought up Kano and she’s like “oh you mean Nonoka” she don’t even see her daughter as a person just as a commodity or product. Just like she sees Mahiru’s art the same. Calling Mahiru “sensei” and gassing her shit up.. she’s not slick man 💀 she’ll turn on you just like she did Kano when it’s no longer convenient.
The other thing for me is if you really feel like you doing nothing wrong, you wouldn’t even feel the need to call Kano and get her blessing. The fact Mahiru did that tells me she knew this was something that she probably shouldn’t be doing. Kano was clearly skeptical otp about it too 🤷🏾♂️ do I think Mahiru is a horrible person? No, but she did some snake shit. But again, respect to Yaku sensei for creating a situation that could very much happen irl because girlfriends can be messy as hell.
Talked about all that and ain’t even get into Mero running the YouTube expose page. That’s so fucking gross and Kano was very justified for punching her in the face. I’d rather lose the right way than win the wrong way and kano clearly felt the same.
Now Kano did say some nasty shit at the end to Mahiru but you know, Mahiru deserved it 🤷🏾♂️ and Kano was just desperate to not lose the only friends she’s had. After seemingly finally escaping her loner past and developing relationships now she sees her closest friend potentially drifting away from her with her MOTHER of all people, the same mother who when told her daughter’s concerns about not having friends or fitting in just brought up her dream of selling out Tōkyō some. ofc she’d snap.
Could go on and on about it but it was amazing, didn’t even touch on everything I want to but I’m on vacation and need to go to the beach lmao. This episode fucked me up though. 10/10 as usual from my goat Yaku sensei. If there’s ever a Tomozaki s3 and 4 it’ll have stuff like this too.
Finally got Kano backstory and the world doesn’t deserve her. The way she idolised her mother and just wanted her acceptance while her mom couldn’t even be bothered to show up to her class on presentation day just broke my heart.. most parents would kill for a kid as pure and obedient as Kano, and her mom only cared about using her to further her career, gross.
Mahiru rep took a major hit in this one for me. She’s gonna have to redeem herself. Came off very snakey. Mfs are upset about me saying it, but planning all this stuff with Yukine when you know she and Kano aren’t on good terms and Kano has had some family issues in the past is very snakey to me! Yes, I get that she wants to advance her own career and grow to love her art and herself, that’s very valid, but I’m not working with my best friend’s mom who I know she has beef with or at least aren’t on good terms. It’s just messy.
And even during Mahiru and Yukine meeting you can already see signs. Like when Mahiru brought up Kano and she’s like “oh you mean Nonoka” she don’t even see her daughter as a person just as a commodity or product. Just like she sees Mahiru’s art the same. Calling Mahiru “sensei” and gassing her shit up.. she’s not slick man 💀 she’ll turn on you just like she did Kano when it’s no longer convenient.
The other thing for me is if you really feel like you doing nothing wrong, you wouldn’t even feel the need to call Kano and get her blessing. The fact Mahiru did that tells me she knew this was something that she probably shouldn’t be doing. Kano was clearly skeptical otp about it too 🤷🏾♂️ do I think Mahiru is a horrible person? No, but she did some snake shit. But again, respect to Yaku sensei for creating a situation that could very much happen irl because girlfriends can be messy as hell.
Talked about all that and ain’t even get into Mero running the YouTube expose page. That’s so fucking gross and Kano was very justified for punching her in the face. I’d rather lose the right way than win the wrong way and kano clearly felt the same.
Now Kano did say some nasty shit at the end to Mahiru but you know, Mahiru deserved it 🤷🏾♂️ and Kano was just desperate to not lose the only friends she’s had. After seemingly finally escaping her loner past and developing relationships now she sees her closest friend potentially drifting away from her with her MOTHER of all people, the same mother who when told her daughter’s concerns about not having friends or fitting in just brought up her dream of selling out Tōkyō some. ofc she’d snap.
Could go on and on about it but it was amazing, didn’t even touch on everything I want to but I’m on vacation and need to go to the beach lmao. This episode fucked me up though. 10/10 as usual from my goat Yaku sensei. If there’s ever a Tomozaki s3 and 4 it’ll have stuff like this too.
| @Marinate1016 I hardly disagree here. Mahiru warned Kano, she tried to find out the truth and she explained properly her motivation. Kano, on the other hand, was right during the whole situation in her previous unit but this time she behaved like idiot: refused to explaine the situation with her mother and what really happened and after hearing Mahirus decigion she only blamed her with betrayel and made a scene insterad of, once again, trying to actually talk out the situation. I am sure it will turn out that Kanos mokm is a big bad and the girls will mend things up because this how it is by the tropes. But I will ber really disappointed if Kano just gets forgiven without any redeeming arc and Mahiru will be pictured at fault here. |
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@Marinate1016 I hardly disagree here. Mahiru warned Kano, she tried to find out the truth and she explained properly her motivation. Kano, on the other hand, was right during the whole situation in her previous unit but this time she behaved like idiot: refused to explaine the situation with her mother and what really happened and after hearing Mahirus decigion she only blamed her with betrayel and made a scene insterad of, once again, trying to actually talk out the situation.
I am sure it will turn out that Kanos mokm is a big bad and the girls will mend things up because this how it is by the tropes. But I will ber really disappointed if Kano just gets forgiven without any redeeming arc and Mahiru will be pictured at fault here.
I am sure it will turn out that Kanos mokm is a big bad and the girls will mend things up because this how it is by the tropes. But I will ber really disappointed if Kano just gets forgiven without any redeeming arc and Mahiru will be pictured at fault here.
| @Nachtwandler_21 why even take someone who starts the post with "peak Yuri" seriously. I can't imagine how superficially someone has to be watching this to call YoruKura a yuri anime or say such a bold statement |
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| This episode went crazy, Yoru, Kano and Kiwi are all such compelling character's. For me personally I'm invested most in Yoru I can relate to her most cause I myself like drawing so she really resonates with me. I'm curious to see how this goes next episode. Such a good story. |
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Letterbox effect just hits so different in episodes like this. Masterful use of direction and cinematography. One of the most gut wrenching episodes I’ve seen recently.
Finally got Kano backstory and the world doesn’t deserve her. The way she idolised her mother and just wanted her acceptance while her mom couldn’t even be bothered to show up to her class on presentation day just broke my heart.. most parents would kill for a kid as pure and obedient as Kano, and her mom only cared about using her to further her career, gross.
Mahiru rep took a major hit in this one for me. She’s gonna have to redeem herself. Came off very snakey. Mfs are upset about me saying it, but planning all this stuff with Yukine when you know she and Kano aren’t on good terms and Kano has had some family issues in the past is very snakey to me! Yes, I get that she wants to advance her own career and grow to love her art and herself, that’s very valid, but I’m not working with my best friend’s mom who I know she has beef with or at least aren’t on good terms. It’s just messy.
And even during Mahiru and Yukine meeting you can already see signs. Like when Mahiru brought up Kano and she’s like “oh you mean Nonoka” she don’t even see her daughter as a person just as a commodity or product. Just like she sees Mahiru’s art the same. Calling Mahiru “sensei” and gassing her shit up.. she’s not slick man 💀 she’ll turn on you just like she did Kano when it’s no longer convenient.
The other thing for me is if you really feel like you doing nothing wrong, you wouldn’t even feel the need to call Kano and get her blessing. The fact Mahiru did that tells me she knew this was something that she probably shouldn’t be doing. Kano was clearly skeptical otp about it too 🤷🏾♂️ do I think Mahiru is a horrible person? No, but she did some snake shit. But again, respect to Yaku sensei for creating a situation that could very much happen irl because girlfriends can be messy as hell.
Talked about all that and ain’t even get into Mero running the YouTube expose page. That’s so fucking gross and Kano was very justified for punching her in the face. I’d rather lose the right way than win the wrong way and kano clearly felt the same.
Now Kano did say some nasty shit at the end to Mahiru but you know, Mahiru deserved it 🤷🏾♂️ and Kano was just desperate to not lose the only friends she’s had. After seemingly finally escaping her loner past and developing relationships now she sees her closest friend potentially drifting away from her with her MOTHER of all people, the same mother who when told her daughter’s concerns about not having friends or fitting in just brought up her dream of selling out Tōkyō some. ofc she’d snap.
Could go on and on about it but it was amazing, didn’t even touch on everything I want to but I’m on vacation and need to go to the beach lmao. This episode fucked me up though. 10/10 as usual from my goat Yaku sensei. If there’s ever a Tomozaki s3 and 4 it’ll have stuff like this too.
Finally got Kano backstory and the world doesn’t deserve her. The way she idolised her mother and just wanted her acceptance while her mom couldn’t even be bothered to show up to her class on presentation day just broke my heart.. most parents would kill for a kid as pure and obedient as Kano, and her mom only cared about using her to further her career, gross.
Mahiru rep took a major hit in this one for me. She’s gonna have to redeem herself. Came off very snakey. Mfs are upset about me saying it, but planning all this stuff with Yukine when you know she and Kano aren’t on good terms and Kano has had some family issues in the past is very snakey to me! Yes, I get that she wants to advance her own career and grow to love her art and herself, that’s very valid, but I’m not working with my best friend’s mom who I know she has beef with or at least aren’t on good terms. It’s just messy.
And even during Mahiru and Yukine meeting you can already see signs. Like when Mahiru brought up Kano and she’s like “oh you mean Nonoka” she don’t even see her daughter as a person just as a commodity or product. Just like she sees Mahiru’s art the same. Calling Mahiru “sensei” and gassing her shit up.. she’s not slick man 💀 she’ll turn on you just like she did Kano when it’s no longer convenient.
The other thing for me is if you really feel like you doing nothing wrong, you wouldn’t even feel the need to call Kano and get her blessing. The fact Mahiru did that tells me she knew this was something that she probably shouldn’t be doing. Kano was clearly skeptical otp about it too 🤷🏾♂️ do I think Mahiru is a horrible person? No, but she did some snake shit. But again, respect to Yaku sensei for creating a situation that could very much happen irl because girlfriends can be messy as hell.
Talked about all that and ain’t even get into Mero running the YouTube expose page. That’s so fucking gross and Kano was very justified for punching her in the face. I’d rather lose the right way than win the wrong way and kano clearly felt the same.
Now Kano did say some nasty shit at the end to Mahiru but you know, Mahiru deserved it 🤷🏾♂️ and Kano was just desperate to not lose the only friends she’s had. After seemingly finally escaping her loner past and developing relationships now she sees her closest friend potentially drifting away from her with her MOTHER of all people, the same mother who when told her daughter’s concerns about not having friends or fitting in just brought up her dream of selling out Tōkyō some. ofc she’d snap.
Could go on and on about it but it was amazing, didn’t even touch on everything I want to but I’m on vacation and need to go to the beach lmao. This episode fucked me up though. 10/10 as usual from my goat Yaku sensei. If there’s ever a Tomozaki s3 and 4 it’ll have stuff like this too.
| @Marinate1016 I can see why you'd see Yoru as snakey this episode asking kano directly about her mother was insensitive but she did apologise after. I don't blame her for wanting to take the offer from Kano's mum. Of course she wants to improve herself I can really relate to that as I've practiced art a fair bit. I do feel bad for Kano absolutely but I mean I feel if anything I feel like she was more insensitive this episode. especially with her outburst at the end. Although its understandable. Considering the whole thing with her mother. But she really shouldn't try shackle Yoru down imo I seriously love how this show is going so far though. I'm curious how it will turn out next week. |
Nachtwandler_21 said: @Marinate1016 I hardly disagree here. Mahiru warned Kano, she tried to find out the truth and she explained properly her motivation. Kano, on the other hand, was right during the whole situation in her previous unit but this time she behaved like idiot: refused to explaine the situation with her mother and what really happened and after hearing Mahirus decigion she only blamed her with betrayel and made a scene insterad of, once again, trying to actually talk out the situation. I am sure it will turn out that Kanos mokm is a big bad and the girls will mend things up because this how it is by the tropes. But I will ber really disappointed if Kano just gets forgiven without any redeeming arc and Mahiru will be pictured at fault here. You’re entitled to ur opinion |
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| Well that title drop came at a bad time |
| This episode has got me sitting on the edge of my seat. I'm tearing up from Kano's backstory and my heart just aches. Can't wait for next episode T^T |
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| Woah, this episode really surprised me. Yukine is really evil, she wasn't interested in her own child at all, she used Kano as a tool for success. |
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@Nachtwandler_21 why even take someone who starts the post with "peak Yuri" seriously. I can't imagine how superficially someone has to be watching this to call YoruKura a yuri anime or say such a bold statement
| @Ryushindai Right? Where is this yuri people are seeing? Kano and Yoru are just roommates. |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
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Letterbox effect just hits so different in episodes like this. Masterful use of direction and cinematography. One of the most gut wrenching episodes I’ve seen recently.
Finally got Kano backstory and the world doesn’t deserve her. The way she idolised her mother and just wanted her acceptance while her mom couldn’t even be bothered to show up to her class on presentation day just broke my heart.. most parents would kill for a kid as pure and obedient as Kano, and her mom only cared about using her to further her career, gross.
Mahiru rep took a major hit in this one for me. She’s gonna have to redeem herself. Came off very snakey. Mfs are upset about me saying it, but planning all this stuff with Yukine when you know she and Kano aren’t on good terms and Kano has had some family issues in the past is very snakey to me! Yes, I get that she wants to advance her own career and grow to love her art and herself, that’s very valid, but I’m not working with my best friend’s mom who I know she has beef with or at least aren’t on good terms. It’s just messy.
And even during Mahiru and Yukine meeting you can already see signs. Like when Mahiru brought up Kano and she’s like “oh you mean Nonoka” she don’t even see her daughter as a person just as a commodity or product. Just like she sees Mahiru’s art the same. Calling Mahiru “sensei” and gassing her shit up.. she’s not slick man 💀 she’ll turn on you just like she did Kano when it’s no longer convenient.
The other thing for me is if you really feel like you doing nothing wrong, you wouldn’t even feel the need to call Kano and get her blessing. The fact Mahiru did that tells me she knew this was something that she probably shouldn’t be doing. Kano was clearly skeptical otp about it too 🤷🏾♂️ do I think Mahiru is a horrible person? No, but she did some snake shit. But again, respect to Yaku sensei for creating a situation that could very much happen irl because girlfriends can be messy as hell.
Talked about all that and ain’t even get into Mero running the YouTube expose page. That’s so fucking gross and Kano was very justified for punching her in the face. I’d rather lose the right way than win the wrong way and kano clearly felt the same.
Now Kano did say some nasty shit at the end to Mahiru but you know, Mahiru deserved it 🤷🏾♂️ and Kano was just desperate to not lose the only friends she’s had. After seemingly finally escaping her loner past and developing relationships now she sees her closest friend potentially drifting away from her with her MOTHER of all people, the same mother who when told her daughter’s concerns about not having friends or fitting in just brought up her dream of selling out Tōkyō some. ofc she’d snap.
Could go on and on about it but it was amazing, didn’t even touch on everything I want to but I’m on vacation and need to go to the beach lmao. This episode fucked me up though. 10/10 as usual from my goat Yaku sensei. If there’s ever a Tomozaki s3 and 4 it’ll have stuff like this too.
Finally got Kano backstory and the world doesn’t deserve her. The way she idolised her mother and just wanted her acceptance while her mom couldn’t even be bothered to show up to her class on presentation day just broke my heart.. most parents would kill for a kid as pure and obedient as Kano, and her mom only cared about using her to further her career, gross.
Mahiru rep took a major hit in this one for me. She’s gonna have to redeem herself. Came off very snakey. Mfs are upset about me saying it, but planning all this stuff with Yukine when you know she and Kano aren’t on good terms and Kano has had some family issues in the past is very snakey to me! Yes, I get that she wants to advance her own career and grow to love her art and herself, that’s very valid, but I’m not working with my best friend’s mom who I know she has beef with or at least aren’t on good terms. It’s just messy.
And even during Mahiru and Yukine meeting you can already see signs. Like when Mahiru brought up Kano and she’s like “oh you mean Nonoka” she don’t even see her daughter as a person just as a commodity or product. Just like she sees Mahiru’s art the same. Calling Mahiru “sensei” and gassing her shit up.. she’s not slick man 💀 she’ll turn on you just like she did Kano when it’s no longer convenient.
The other thing for me is if you really feel like you doing nothing wrong, you wouldn’t even feel the need to call Kano and get her blessing. The fact Mahiru did that tells me she knew this was something that she probably shouldn’t be doing. Kano was clearly skeptical otp about it too 🤷🏾♂️ do I think Mahiru is a horrible person? No, but she did some snake shit. But again, respect to Yaku sensei for creating a situation that could very much happen irl because girlfriends can be messy as hell.
Talked about all that and ain’t even get into Mero running the YouTube expose page. That’s so fucking gross and Kano was very justified for punching her in the face. I’d rather lose the right way than win the wrong way and kano clearly felt the same.
Now Kano did say some nasty shit at the end to Mahiru but you know, Mahiru deserved it 🤷🏾♂️ and Kano was just desperate to not lose the only friends she’s had. After seemingly finally escaping her loner past and developing relationships now she sees her closest friend potentially drifting away from her with her MOTHER of all people, the same mother who when told her daughter’s concerns about not having friends or fitting in just brought up her dream of selling out Tōkyō some. ofc she’d snap.
Could go on and on about it but it was amazing, didn’t even touch on everything I want to but I’m on vacation and need to go to the beach lmao. This episode fucked me up though. 10/10 as usual from my goat Yaku sensei. If there’s ever a Tomozaki s3 and 4 it’ll have stuff like this too.
| @Marinate1016 I'm surprised to see you say Mahiru's rep took a hit. She's only doing what's best for herself, she received an offer from a major group to do a huge project, one that could make or break her actual rep. Meanwhile Kano is over here insulting someone she supposedly idolizes. |
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| Incredible Episode, deserves a 10/10. Kano's backstory is very well-written, it's really sad to see how the innocent and kind-hearted Kano can turn out like that. I hope Mero's career falls like what she did to Idol who she ruined their careers. Mahiru wants to develop more and that is her goal now, she accepted an offer from Kano's mother but, Kano didn't like it and hurt Mahiru's feelings by saying "Mahiru...Yoru, you're just a jellyfish can't swim, aren't you?" that line is very painful to hear. And the ending with Flashback Kano calling Yoru's name made me cry again. Truly an anime masterpiece this season.  |
| She turned out like her mother in the end. |
| I really think they rushed through the setup for this episode. They really shouldve dedicated one entire episode to Kano's flashback and have more time to show Mahiru being led on by the big bad mom to really emphasize the fight at the end. Tho the first three episodes went fast af too so it's not really new to this anime lol Still the best episode by far imo. Really hope they use the remaining episodes wisely and that they don't fumble the ending by speedruning Kano's redemption with Mahiru and skipping over Mei and Kiui (as they have been doing for most of the series) |
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| Damn I was not ready for this episode, why did they have to break my heart like that.. Rie Takahashi is such an incredible VA |
| Drama time!!! Now I wanna see how this will all end |
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| Well that was depressing... I dont blame mahiru for taking the job, thats a big opportunity, and i dont blame kano either. She's worked at this for so long, of course she's frustrated. But at the same time... Mahiru broke the promise, and kano saying all that hurtful stuff to her :( heartbreaking. Was a good episode but got me feeling... A little conflicted. Lets see where they're trying to go with this. (also, great performance all around from everyone here. The staff all did an amazing job this episode. Especially Rieri's voice acting here is so good!) |
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| It's a really good episode, probably my favorite overall. |
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| This episode brought a major problem from her past. It won't be easy to solve it from this episode. 😔 |
VickyAlexJun 1, 2024 8:12 PM
| Kano was right for punching Mero. She is wrong for lashing out at Mahiru. I understand she doesn't want to be left alone but Mahiru did the right thing by consulting with them all about taking the job instead of just doing it behind their backs(Unlike the two bitches from Saenai.). Next week is gonna be rough. |
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