Date A Live V Episode 5 Discussion

Enderkiller1337 said:
Mio is Trash because she is a murderer she made Kurumi kill 10,000 of people and her best friend and killed Kurumi and Yuzuru🤢🤢🤢🗑️🗑️🗑️☠️☠️☠️

Embient said:
So all the spirits are just tools made by Mio to gradually give Shido spirit powers so he can remember her? Damn. But now I'm wondering how he ended up as Kotori's sister. Also Kotori was Homura Haruko in the past? *goes to the wiki to read about that* *gets a ton of spoilers* Okay yeah, that was dumb af of me, don't do that.

Suntanned_Duck2 said:
At first catching up from 3-5 I was like huh those is cool Mio details, the Shin part/Mana part.

I assume Kurumi and more will come back not just be sacrificed. They wouldn't just kill a favourite character off or if they do not without good reason which I mean her appearing sure was good.

Some parts I was like yeah makes sense others I was like ok then.

Reina just being consumed makes sense but they just don't address the why she is so tired. I know S1 sure but they didn't expand it to be oh she was the other side of Mio so she is exhausted due to something else but I guess she just is what she is the can't keep up with the real world. Rather than say the 2 halves of Yamai with two different personalities. She is but just the more weak one? Or the modern life lived one then the spirit one. Huh.

Maybe the light novel and xplains that or maybe it doesn't as no need it isn't a worthy detail. Who knows.

Shido kissing Marina I mean Nibelcole (episode 4) sure. It has it's funny moments still inbetween some good touching ones but not just because the adaptation is trying very hard to include what it can besides a battle (not read these parts of the light novel before so new to me), besides side details that are relevant and all this stuff from each character to Kurumi. So much back and forth.

The CGI in battles hasn't bothered me but I've noticed it.

A lot of whiplash is happening for so many characters details.

A fair amount of answers but more questions to pile on.

RIP the state of spirits right now.

I assume Mio wants all the crystals back? Did they split them/birth the spirits intentionally and went nah I want them back or is it because they were taken and used by the 3 of Elliot, Westcott, Ellen. But maybe to expand on those they lose in their backstory ? I have no idea again I haven't read the light novel only speculating.

This series is easy enough to guess things for sometimes. Until Milo and then a lot of what further we don't know moments.

Compared to the oh Origami arc when author is ready kind of pacing.

I assume yes but then again they have their backstory to come.

Special crystals and yet Mio wants to go and make herself more powerful? Or give it to Shido or something like just take them back and recent the 3 of them in their backstory have to bring their village back or recreate that with the spirits?

As the spirits are her un-intended daughters because of them and experiments.

But I mean. Some deeper more then modern day stuff. Like Why? This is just like S2 with the start of Westcott for me going 'I had deeper plans' the author tells the reader but on a scale of 'there are other worlds' (in other series to expand the universe and draw people in and it's like no you didn't stop lying you just want this nonsense of scale that wasn't there alongside it in a way the original intentions maybe of Mio moments but this crystal and the 3 of them backstory.


Like come on what a load of overcomplicating to impress. It's just silly. Drags out the story, pushes a lot of ideas to drag it out, mess with things and push a nice 20+ novels or exhausted all ideas or mixes with others besides the encores or the 'fun' side tracking like the fairy tale world which they did more in aide stories as well)

Like.... in we have the regular/spirit sure but some fantasy past and the 3 of them HAPPENED to get to the present to blend in nonsense.

The author is just throwing anything at the wall.

I'm still enjoying it but it's still a load of nonsense.

The Mio stuff and the 3Ellen/Elliott of them seeing different sides is fine but the backstory to come I mean. Seriously this series is just trying so hard to have too much depth and it's a bit excessive.

It keeps getting bloated. We just needed some crystal to be mined, used for an experiment or something else and they used it for experiments to make spirits and the rest makes sense but a fantasy past. XD I get it it works it's just a bit too much.

I mean if Shido lost his confidence to date sure he already struggled before but from that and the Elliot let's her go of Ep4 to this. Even.

I wondered if he got his spirit powers from her or Tohka but the whole thing in Episode 4 sure makes sense and from a spirit of origin makes sense. It's weird the other details but sure. We don't or do have the Kotori's family details (other than just we know they don't need to show us) of how they took him in too?

Also Takamoya and Itsuka parents busy hmm.

The Mio moments make sense this fantasy element to the other 3 is a joke.

It makes sense kind of to further expand then just oh and experiment because well how else do they have the crystals then just mining some per chance level story telling but this expansion is kind of silly for scale to expand on.

benjic665 said:
@Suntanned_Duck2

reine fatigue is explained later in the season (around episode 9).

and no, the depth of the story is not absurd, all your questions will be answered in the next episodes, for Mio, shido or westcott etc. everything has a moral meaning, which is also linked to religious mysticism, the names of Mio's powers, the names of the angels etc. NOTHING is done at random, you just have to think hard to find out what the author wanted to show.

Embient said:
@Ohmena

StallionXD said:
This is going crazy now! And that last shoot was sick.

Still, all of this is also really weird, like, I understood the idea of Mio "giving birth" to Shido and all, but she LITERALLY gave birth to him, like, she is his real mother now, and yet she still is in love with him and stuff, maybe I'm not understanding something but that's just weird.

I gotta say tho, the scene with Shido's schoolmates was unnecessary and cringe as fuck.

Oh, and this episode reminded me off all of the Ratatoskr crew, when they all had personalities in S1, they all were so fkng fun, but suddenly they never spoke again, the blonde dude was crazy fun, his joke was being pedo af for Kotori, but out of nowhere he became so serious, I think of them when I see the phrase "wasted character potential" lol, also the ship getting that AI "Maria" was such a cringe and unnecessary mistake, her job could have been done by any member of the crew lol I know she is an actual character and all but that's all from a spin off game and novel volume so who cares.

Oh, and I didn't like how Shido literally had no reaction to seeing the real Kurumi fucking die, he was in front of her death body in the floor and didn't said shit, and all of that was before getting his memories returned, it felt unnatural for him.

StallionXD said:
@Laplace_kun What do you want me to say then? Cringe stuff is cringe, that's all, being upset over someone saying "cringe" is cringe.
I don't use that word because I like it, I use it because it perfectly and easily encapsulates what I'm feeling and trying to say.

I don't care about the Maria stuff at all, her picking the choises could have been just a program recolecting data (date dialogues) from various sources corresponding to every situation, even I can program something as easy as that (I'm a licensed programmer if u care to know).

I still think Shido's reaction was weird, as I said he hasn't recovered his memories yet so he had "no idea" who that girl was, and I get that the dude was shocked to see her come from the inside of Kurumi and shit, but being more shocked than seeing one of his close friends (and probably the most important he had) die in front of his eyes? Nah, he should have gone berserk with all his spirit powers and then be calmed down by getting his memories back, that's what I expected and I think it would have been way better because idk how it was in the novel but studios can take small creative liberties like that if they want, you know, to make Kurumi's death see more impactful, especially because, apparently, we will begin to see all the girls have unceremonial deaths like we saw with Kaguya.

Marmotzel said:
@benjic665 Isn't Mayuri non canon? What do you mean?

Suntanned_Duck2 said:
@Laplace_kun True but I am just speculating conclusions. I'm ok with them being wrong. I know some would be way far off and others would be kind of less interesting too so they maybe have presented some good ideas.

I mean I had moments in S2 going hmm ok this worked better than I thought.

I assume the same will happen again.

I'm still going to watch it. It hasn't made me quit watching. I enjoy this series a lot.

I have all the light novels. I can easily find out if I need to. I just stopped reading in the S4/Volume 16 period that's all.