Overlord II Episode 13 Discussion

ToshiroChan said:
Tuare is the only human in Nazarick i hope she doesn't get bullied by Solution and other demonic maids.

Nordhammer said:



If it makes you feel better all of the children were saved by Nigredo (Albedo's older sister) and Pestonya (women with the head of a sheepdog((Shetland)) ).

Also-
Ainz didn't order them to be killed.Ainz asked that if the captives were to be killed that it be as quick and painless as possible,if they had not given offense to Nazarick.

Demiurge has most of the captives,and they've been spread out to work on his ranches and to help with certain NPCs with yet more experiments.

Darklight0303 said:


This ridiculous post. How can you say they've been buffed or nerfed when almost none of them were even in action in season 1? Only Shaltear and Albedo did ANYTHING among the guardians last season.

Also humans have not been buffed in the slightest lol

It was not contempt at Ainz's orders but his identity as Ainz. She still is nothing but loyal to Momonga

KRKodama said:

I agree completely with the message that you meant to convey to Stormen, but, to be more exact, Maare and Aura actually showed a lot more of their abilities than Albedo in the first season. From what I remember, Albedo only lifted her axe once.

Darklight0303 said:


decapitated the insect that slingshot at ainz in episode 3

KRKodama said:

Yes, that's what I meant. She only lifted her axe once to decapitate that soldier in episode 4.

Darklight0303 said:


Yeah but I consider that more than Mare and AUra too since you had Aura use her subtle powers over animals and to distract shaltear while Mare covered up the tomb and caved that asshole adventurer's skull in. All of those things line up with everything they did in the new season still

Nordhammer said:
@KRKodama

lbedo is currently still being developed in the light novel,she was not in the web novel,and the author's transition from his web novel to writing Overlord as a light novel has not been always smooth narrative wise- Power rankings fluctuate,once the novel gets past the web novel (vol 10+) the rankings are far more set(for now).

Albedo true strength has been only hinted at by Maruyama(Overlord's author).She is not original to the web novel,and her story line is still evolving in the novel.
The 3rd season should make folks pay a lot more attention to Albedo,if her sisters finally are adapted.


Albedo is a overpowered Dark Paladin, who may or may not turn into a type of nalfeshnee if she gets angry enough or takes enough damage-in other words Hulk's out.

Aura is a overpowered Ranger who can charm humans as well as creatures.

Mare is a overpowered Druid, one of those shy silent types of sadists.

KRKodama said:

Also, you're wrong about Albedo's strength being "only hinted". We can see her stats in her character sheet. And according to the author's own words, we already know that she is weaker than Shalltear and Maare, and stronger than Demiurge, Aura, and Victim. And that she has a rock-paper-scissors relationship with Sebas and Cocytus. Albedo beats Sebas, Cocytus beats Albedo, and Sebas beats Cocytus.

Nordhammer said:


2nd Edit: If you do not want public feedback then do not post on a public site, my thoughts are open to debate.

And pray tell what is Albedo's true form?

Character sheets which are not complete,and are from the game.The Floor Guardians and their powers are evolving in the New World (and has the author tweaks them to fit however he needs them to).

In simple words YGGDRASIL 's "power rankings" are not set in stone,Maruyama plays fast and loose with those stats.

KRKodama said:

Character sheets: http://skythewood.blogspot.com.br/p/blog-page_3.html
These are the exact numbers:
And the author hasn't changed them at all yet.

KRKodama said:


You're wrong because the character sheets of Nazarick guardians are already perfectly complete. They can still gain more knowledge and experience during the story, but until there's a real evidence showing the contrary(a new sheet with updated numbers for each character), their stats are, in fact, set in stone, and are not supposed to change.

And the author hasn't changed them at all yet.

IF0xI said:
Loved every aspect of this season, could anyone inform me which volume should I pick up after the anime?

Darklight0303 said:

Volume 7. This season covered volumes 4 through 6. Would still suggest reading from the start but if you want just from where the anime left off, start off there.

Nordhammer said:


The author is still developing the characters,the YGGDRASIL character sheets are only touchstones.

Keeping with Albed,her sheet leaves out of racial levels in succubus and her levels as a Dark Knight.

Albedo' ,Sebas' and Demiurge's true forms are not included on those sheets,as they're not yet been fully developed.

Sometime ago Maruyama answered fans questions about the Floor Guardian's
power levels : (strongest to weakest)
Shalltear Bloodfallen - undead; strongest floor guardian; 1st place (best in 1v1 battle)
Mare Bello Fiore - best magic power; afraid of insects
Albedo - best defense power; can tank Super-tier magic without damage
Cocytus - best offence when equipped with a weapon
Gargantua - highest stats but have no intelligence
Demiurge - most intelligent and most evil; physical abilities are weak (weakest among the guardians)
Aura Bella Fiora - strongest in group battle; weakest in 1v1 battle
Victim - best in "confinement" or "restriction"; non-combative"

(Sebas is not included as he is not a floor guardian)


Notice the author is specific about how he scored them using various categories: ie best magic user,best melee fighter,best tank and etc.


And a newer list by the author:

Power level of Nazarick according to author:
1st - 8th floor NPCs (Nazarick's maximum strength; details unknown)
2nd - Rubedo (Strongest NPC)
3rd - Touch Me (Strongest Warrior, World Champion)
4th - Ulbert Alain Odle (Strongest Magic Caster)
5th - Momonga (Fully-equipped)
6th - High Tier Floor Guardian (Shalltear, etc.)
7th - Sebas Tian (in dragon form)
8th - Guren (7th floor Area Guardian)
9th - Low Tier Floor Guardian (Aura, etc.)
10th - Others (Hamsuke, etc.)


So as I've mentioned power rankings fluctuate and those YGGDRASIL character sheets are subjective as Overlord moves further from the web novel.

KRKodama said:

But the second list is not contradicting the first, right? So nothing really has changed here.
The only problem I can see in the second list is that it's saying that Momonga(Fully-equipped) is stronger than Shalltear, even though he needed Aura's help in the end to win.
And why do you keep mentioning the web novel? All what matters is the information in the light novel anyways, and the character sheets are from the light novels too.
You can say that the races are not really complete just because they have "Others" in the list, though I don't consider this relevant. But the numbers showing their strengths are not really subjective. It wasn't Ainz who showed those character sheets, so they weren't from when it was a game. The author added those character sheets in the light novel showing information about the characters who are alive and present in the story.
You could say that those character sheets are just from YGGDRASIL and not relevant anymore if it also showed the stats of Touch Me and Ulbert, for example, but it didn't because those characters are not living in the story(at least until now). This confirms that those stats are indeed the ones that the characters have now(it even says Aiz Ooal Gown in Momonga's description, meaning that it's referring to the Momonga that we have now, after it stopped being a game), and unless the author shows a new sheet for each character, that means the numbers haven't changed at all.

nidoqueen106 said:
Overlord is still my favorite anime of all time, but I feel this season really lacked in the pure-awesome action packed fighting that I've come to expect from this show. But hey, Season 3 is coming out in a few short months so let's hope we see some action!

JDS_Mirai said:


Yeah that's exactly how I felt as well, but cant be helped much given Ainz, Albedo, Shalltear wasn't really involved much in the fights and what we got were anti-climatic.. brief melees that were way over too quickly or mock fights.

I know the villains in this season were weak af, but I still feel they could have done much better in some scenes than a couple of frame animations which made the animation feel cheap overall. You can tell most of the budget was likely put in another show... (Card Captor Sakura?) and Overlord II got the B team. In saying that though, the one defining episode to me was the Entoma VS Evileye, which I felt was the only one at a good level. If that level was consistent throughout the entire season i would've been much happier.

But it is what it is, and I am confident they'll do a better job for Season 3. Hopefully they put more money into it this time and we'll see some nice animation.

JDS_Mirai said:


Yeah that's exactly how I felt as well, but cant be helped much given Ainz, Albedo, Shalltear wasn't really involved much in the fights and what we got were anti-climatic.. brief melees that were way over too quickly or mock fights.

I know the villains in this season were weak af, but I still feel they could have done much better in some scenes than a couple of frame animations which made the animation feel cheap overall. You can tell most of the budget was likely put in another show... (Card Captor Sakura?) and Overlord II got the B team. In saying that though, the one defining episode to me was the Entoma VS Evileye, which I felt was the only one at a good level. If that level was consistent throughout the entire season i would've been much happier.

But it is what it is, and I am confident they'll do a better job for Season 3. Hopefully they put more money into it this time and we'll see some nice animation.

Darklight0303 said:


He only needed AUra's help because he HESITATED to put down one of his companion's creations down. Without that hesitation he would have defeated her handily. So it wasn't power that was the deciding factor that time

Silver-Seraphim1 said:
It was amazing I loved every minute of it. hope they will be a third season. changes are Slim but you never know

Sorrowsenpai said:
I detest all the Nazerick characters and really hope one day they all die a true death.

jadedashi said:
So I can tell this was pretty rushed but I still enjoyed it for what its worth. I do have one question though and that is why did shalltear back off chasing brain after seeing climb? Can anybody answer that because that was not explained well or was it something we will see in season 3 possibly explained?

Darklight0303 said:


Let me guess you must cry for every ant you step on each tday

elkensteyin said:

One question though, that wasn't Shalltear taking the place of Evileye at the end, was it?