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Seiya said: I don't think anyone hates strong female characters. You don't see anyone hating on Cure Black, probably because Cure Black is awesome. Objectors are duly Marble Screwed. |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: Seiya said: I don't think anyone hates strong female characters. You don't see anyone hating on Cure Black, probably because Cure Black is awesome. Objectors are duly Marble Screwed. Lol, my thoughts exactly! That reminds me, I really need to watch the sequel, Max Heart someday. |
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| My thoughts have been pretty much expressed in the posts of Swiggy and JCAPER. However, I am somewhere in the between of these two. I believe that it's a combination of both targeted audience and that the creators do not know how to do them well. There are, of course, well made strong female characters, but probably not in the shounen category. @JonasTheJay It has already been mentioned, but I would recommend you to watch Black Lagoon |
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nightlur said: flannan said: Why people are never bothered by emotionless "strong" male characters, like Guts? I don't think there is any reason female characters can't embody the same archetype. well guts has reasons for being emotionless or seeming so and hes strong because of all the fighting hes done .the dude is built like a tank and full of scars he looks like what he is a bad ass. females chars that go for that usually arent given the backstory to explain the strenght or attitude they have they look like models but punch like trained fighters for no reason except its cute . 1) I'm pretty sure Balsa Yonsa, Claymore's MC, Major Motoko Kusanagi, Saber and many others did a lot of fighting too. Note that "a lot of fighting" doesn't mean the character has to emotionless. Al Azif (Demonbane) fought for at least a few centuries, and possibly a few eons, yet she it pretty emotional. She just looks at lovecraftian horrors without even blinking. On the other hand, Ryogi Shiki is like that because she's a psycho killer, just like Tohno Shiki. Kinoko Nasu likes writing about characters who are some kind of crazy. 2) I don't think one needs much background to explain attitude of more emotional female fighters. There is no rule why girls can't be combative, short-tempered or overly serious! 3) Pretty much all anime main characters are stronger than they "should" be. Guts wouldn't be able to swing that giant sword around IRL (less crazy swords can be faked with titanium alloys). Most battle shounen protagonists are kids who break rocks with their bare hands. Comedy girls punch guys into the stratosphere. To say nothing of truly overpowered characters who wipe out armies single-handedly. It's part of the underlying mythology ("ki") or something. Or maybe just to look good on the screen, because nobody cares about your "realism" in anime. (by the way, a number of franchises have explicit explanations. Motoko is a combat cyborg, she is made of steel, not flesh. Saber uses magic to make her strikes stronger. Claymores are something supernatual too. And Shiki has supernatural ability to break things that is beyond any strength.) |
| Emotionless characters are boring in general, regardless of gender. People like to mention Guts being an interesting character despite having that trait but thats only because his interaction with Griffith was making it interesting. Once the Golden Age Arc was over and that interaction no longer exist, he became as boring as pretty much any emotionless person. |
flannan said: [quote=flannan message=49039433]nightlur said: well guts has reasons for being emotionless or seeming so and hes strong because of all the fighting hes done .the dude is built like a tank and full of scars he looks like what he is a bad ass. females chars that go for that usually arent given the backstory to explain the strenght or attitude they have they look like models but punch like trained fighters for no reason except its cute . 1) I'm pretty sure Balsa Yonsa, Claymore's MC, Major Motoko Kusanagi, Saber and many others did a lot of fighting too. Note that "a lot of fighting" doesn't mean the character has to emotionless. Al Azif (Demonbane) fought for at least a few centuries, and possibly a few eons, yet she it pretty emotional. She just looks at lovecraftian horrors without even blinking. On the other hand, Ryogi Shiki is like that because she's a psycho killer, just like Tohno Shiki. Kinoko Nasu likes writing about characters who are some kind of crazy. 2) I don't think one needs much background to explain attitude of more emotional female fighters. There is no rule why girls can't be combative, short-tempered or overly serious! 3) Pretty much all anime main characters are stronger than they "should" be. Guts wouldn't be able to swing that giant sword around IRL (less crazy swords can be faked with titanium alloys). Most battle shounen protagonists are kids who break rocks with their bare hands. Comedy girls punch guys into the stratosphere. To say nothing of truly overpowered characters who wipe out armies single-handedly. It's part of the underlying mythology ("ki") or something. Or maybe just to look good on the screen, because nobody cares about your "realism" in anime. (by the way, a number of franchises have explicit explanations. Motoko is a combat cyborg, she is made of steel, not flesh. Saber uses magic to make her strikes stronger. Claymores are something supernatual too. And Shiki has supernatural ability to break things that is beyond any strength.) nightlur said: flannan said: Why people are never bothered by emotionless "strong" male characters, like Guts? I don't think there is any reason female characters can't embody the same archetype. well guts has reasons for being emotionless or seeming so and hes strong because of all the fighting hes done .the dude is built like a tank and full of scars he looks like what he is a bad ass. females chars that go for that usually arent given the backstory to explain the strenght or attitude they have they look like models but punch like trained fighters for no reason except its cute . 1) I'm pretty sure Balsa Yonsa, Claymore's MC, Major Motoko Kusanagi, Saber and many others did a lot of fighting too. Note that "a lot of fighting" doesn't mean the character has to emotionless. Al Azif (Demonbane) fought for at least a few centuries, and possibly a few eons, yet she it pretty emotional. She just looks at lovecraftian horrors without even blinking. On the other hand, Ryogi Shiki is like that because she's a psycho killer, just like Tohno Shiki. Kinoko Nasu likes writing about characters who are some kind of crazy. 2) I don't think one needs much background to explain attitude of more emotional female fighters. There is no rule why girls can't be combative, short-tempered or overly serious! 3) Pretty much all anime main characters are stronger than they "should" be. Guts wouldn't be able to swing that giant sword around IRL (less crazy swords can be faked with titanium alloys). Most battle shounen protagonists are kids who break rocks with their bare hands. Comedy girls punch guys into the stratosphere. To say nothing of truly overpowered characters who wipe out armies single-handedly. It's part of the underlying mythology ("ki") or something. Or maybe just to look good on the screen, because nobody cares about your "realism" in anime. (by the way, a number of franchises have explicit explanations. Motoko is a combat cyborg, she is made of steel, not flesh. Saber uses magic to make her strikes stronger. Claymores are something supernatual too. And Shiki has supernatural ability to break things that is beyond any strength.)[/qu I said guts was strong and buff because of fighting not emotionless thats for other reasons most of the characters you mentioned are super humans or hav a energy of some kind which alows them to be so strong but even so if you look at the male counterparts they are buff even tho they have powers just like the heroine. even in battle manga like fairy tale or naruto the guys are fit they hav 6 packs chiseled chests and arms women have none of these features the men that create these chartacters just dont want to accept what a physically imposing woman would look like so it all comes off as cheap to your second point yes they can be all those things the point is that the personality of these women come off as simply a archetype meant to attract males if you dont show the audience why they would be this way.And these tropes do exsist for males too but with the women whether you are loud and assertive or quiet and shy nobody in the show has s a problem with your personality but these "flaws" of male characters are usually made a point of complaint by a fair few in a a given anime. lol at least thts how i feel having watched a lot of crap. |
nightlur said: flannan said: 1) I'm pretty sure Balsa Yonsa, Claymore's MC, Major Motoko Kusanagi, Saber and many others did a lot of fighting too. Note that "a lot of fighting" doesn't mean the character has to emotionless. Al Azif (Demonbane) fought for at least a few centuries, and possibly a few eons, yet she it pretty emotional. She just looks at lovecraftian horrors without even blinking. On the other hand, Ryogi Shiki is like that because she's a psycho killer, just like Tohno Shiki. Kinoko Nasu likes writing about characters who are some kind of crazy. 2) I don't think one needs much background to explain attitude of more emotional female fighters. There is no rule why girls can't be combative, short-tempered or overly serious! 3) Pretty much all anime main characters are stronger than they "should" be. Guts wouldn't be able to swing that giant sword around IRL (less crazy swords can be faked with titanium alloys). Most battle shounen protagonists are kids who break rocks with their bare hands. Comedy girls punch guys into the stratosphere. To say nothing of truly overpowered characters who wipe out armies single-handedly. It's part of the underlying mythology ("ki") or something. Or maybe just to look good on the screen, because nobody cares about your "realism" in anime. (by the way, a number of franchises have explicit explanations. Motoko is a combat cyborg, she is made of steel, not flesh. Saber uses magic to make her strikes stronger. Claymores are something supernatual too. And Shiki has supernatural ability to break things that is beyond any strength.) I said guts was strong and buff because of fighting not emotionless thats for other reasons most of the characters you mentioned are super humans or hav a energy of some kind which alows them to be so strong but even so if you look at the male counterparts they are buff even tho they have powers just like the heroine. even in battle manga like fairy tale or naruto the guys are fit they hav 6 packs chiseled chests and arms women have none of these features the men that create these chartacters just dont want to accept what a physically imposing woman would look like so it all comes off as cheap to your second point yes they can be all those things the point is that the personality of these women come off as simply a archetype meant to attract males if you dont show the audience why they would be this way.And these tropes do exsist for males too but with the women whether you are loud and assertive or quiet and shy nobody in the show has s a problem with your personality but these "flaws" of male characters are usually made a point of complaint by a fair few in a a given anime. lol at least thts how i feel having watched a lot of crap. Yeah, males in anime sometimes have 6-packs. They are pure fanservice. Only bodybuilders have those in real life. Often, they have them instead of muscles a real fighting man would have. Like mighty arms. Note that most anime fighters go for "wiry" build, like Bruce Lee, not "bodybuilder" build like Arnold Schwarzenegger. And the authors don't bother drawing well-defined muscles on them too. Yeah, a male character is more likely to be scolded for his personality than a female character (who is more likely to get in trouble and/or need saving because of her personality). Even if it's a perfectly good personality! I do not think there is some deeper meaning in it. I still do not see why you insist that any personality a female character might have is there to attract male viewers. Sure, these days there are very few personalities that will not attract male viewers. Whether she is a psycho killer, immature brat, steel-eyed soldier, emotionless robot, mad scientist or anything else, there is somebody who thinks it's attractive. It does not invalidate all those personalities. |
flannan said: nightlur said: I said guts was strong and buff because of fighting not emotionless thats for other reasons most of the characters you mentioned are super humans or hav a energy of some kind which alows them to be so strong but even so if you look at the male counterparts they are buff even tho they have powers just like the heroine. even in battle manga like fairy tale or naruto the guys are fit they hav 6 packs chiseled chests and arms women have none of these features the men that create these chartacters just dont want to accept what a physically imposing woman would look like so it all comes off as cheap to your second point yes they can be all those things the point is that the personality of these women come off as simply a archetype meant to attract males if you dont show the audience why they would be this way.And these tropes do exsist for males too but with the women whether you are loud and assertive or quiet and shy nobody in the show has s a problem with your personality but these "flaws" of male characters are usually made a point of complaint by a fair few in a a given anime. lol at least thts how i feel having watched a lot of crap. Yeah, males in anime sometimes have 6-packs. They are pure fanservice. Only bodybuilders have those in real life. Often, they have them instead of muscles a real fighting man would have. Like mighty arms. Note that most anime fighters go for "wiry" build, like Bruce Lee, not "bodybuilder" build like Arnold Schwarzenegger. And the authors don't bother drawing well-defined muscles on them too. Yeah, a male character is more likely to be scolded for his personality than a female character (who is more likely to get in trouble and/or need saving because of her personality). Even if it's a perfectly good personality! I do not think there is some deeper meaning in it. I still do not see why you insist that any personality a female character might have is there to attract male viewers. Sure, these days there are very few personalities that will not attract male viewers. Whether she is a psycho killer, immature brat, steel-eyed soldier, emotionless robot, mad scientist or anything else, there is somebody who thinks it's attractive. It does not invalidate all those personalities. bodybuilder muscles arent for fighting conor mcgregror and floyd mayweather hav that wiry body type your refering to thats the type most anime depict and it is the bodytype of the best fighters Evrything has meaning! Not saying it invalidates all female chars from being good i think its a limiter that hinders them from being interesting different unpredictable something that real women are. its men simplistic view of "types" of women being put on paper |
nightlur said: Not saying it invalidates all female chars from being good i think its a limiter that hinders them from being interesting different unpredictable something that real women are. its men simplistic view of "types" of women being put on paper I do not think it applies only to female characters. Male characters are archetypical and predictable too. I think Nazo no Kanojo X captures the unpredictable nature of women very well. |
Codename_ZQ said: Well to put my own opinion, hell no we don't hate strong female characters. I'd say the majority of my favorite female characters happen to be strong ones. Ones that are confident and can take charge. And to the people who say strong female characters can't also be cute, Morgiana says hi. This seems like a really dumb discussion no matter how you put it. Ah, yes. Morgiana is so brutal. Zelkiiro said: Unfortunately, Saber is popular for all the wrong reasons. As horribly-written as Fate/Stay Night is, the entire point of her character was supposed to be that she's above mere humanity and her gender is irrelevant (which also served to make her an unrelatable alien to her contemporaries)...until Nasu decided to make her a love interest in the Fate route like a fucking moron. So no, people don't like Fate/Zero!Saber because of her badass personality and her complex personal dilemmas--they want a shitty waifu from the shittiest route of an already-of-questionable-quality visual novel. The point of her character is to show how a life lived in impossible idealism can twist someone's perception of him/herself. She's also supposed to be a sort of mirror for Shirou...minus the blondeness, femininity and other stuff.(hence her questioning of why he doesn't want her to fight despite how they have similar trains of thought) |
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TheDeadApostle said: She's also supposed to be a sort of mirror for Shirou Isn't that what, uhh...he's there for? You know...that guy? |
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Saintrider891 said: flannan said: 1) Saber isn't some angelic being above humanity. She is a human who tries to live according to her ideals, like me, and, possibly, you. Only more successful at that. This is what makes her awesome and inspiring. Claiming her to be inhuman would diminish her appeal. Sure, it's funny that Saber behaves like an idealized samurai rather than like a knight, but I guess it's inevitable when the work was written by Japanese. 2) So many butthurt fans because their Saber isn't pure. Saber is an epic hero, and she can have as many romantic relationships as she wants. Leaving behind a trail of abandoned lovers is not her style, but why should she not know love and/or sex? 3) Nasu Kinoko is a great writer. Urobuchi Gen's works are pure literary edginess that has no appeal to me. 4) Yes, it's easy to fall in love with F/SN's Saber. Her idealism, her loyalty, her beauty, her strength, her moments of weakness... Whatever that youtuber says, being an epic fighter does not take away from a character's attractiveness. No idea how lovable she is in Fate/Zero. It was very funny you say saber is strong female but she fall in love with highschool Boy knowing just how much old is she . That kinda make mè doen't like saber knowing she falĺ in love with highschool boy . I see no reason Saber can't fall in love with a highschool boy. 1) Age restrictions were lower in her time. In fact, they probably did not exist. 2) What is her total personal time anyway? 40 years? 100 years? Aren't men with the same age as her too damn old? 3) Saber is a strong female character. She is the king, she is the knight. She doesn't need a man who is even better than her. 4) Their romance only kicked in after they had awkward sex to charge her up with mana. |
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Zelkiiro said: TheDeadApostle said: She's also supposed to be a sort of mirror for Shirou Isn't that what, uhh...he's there for? You know...that guy? Haha I mean for the Fate route. The route you're talking about goes more into his idealism but the fate one is meant to scratch the surface. Also the other guy is a reflection of him in a different way. Saber is closest to his normal nature (i.e I'll save people at the cost of myself) but the other guy is how he'd look like after years of pointless suffering. @flannan She's around 25 I think. Pulled the sword at 15 and ruled for around 10 years. |
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flannan said: nightlur said: Not saying it invalidates all female chars from being good i think its a limiter that hinders them from being interesting different unpredictable something that real women are. its men simplistic view of "types" of women being put on paper I do not think it applies only to female characters. Male characters are archetypical and predictable too. I think Nazo no Kanojo X captures the unpredictable nature of women very well. of course they can my point is it happens with female chars much more |
TheDeadApostle said: @flannan She's around 25 I think. Pulled the sword at 15 and ruled for around 10 years. She'd be closer to 22-24. Shirou does describe her as looking "several years younger than me," and since Shirou's in his 2nd year of high school, he's 16 years old. |
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Zelkiiro said: TheDeadApostle said: @flannan She's around 25 I think. Pulled the sword at 15 and ruled for around 10 years. She'd be closer to 22-24. Shirou does describe her as looking "several years younger than me," and since Shirou's in his 2nd year of high school, he's 16 years old. Do we know that her reign was about 10 years? I didn't remember that. Edit: Type-moon wiki says it's 10 years too. |
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flannan said: Zelkiiro said: She'd be closer to 22-24. Shirou does describe her as looking "several years younger than me," and since Shirou's in his 2nd year of high school, he's 16 years old. Do we know that her reign was about 10 years? I didn't remember that. Edit: Type-moon wiki says it's 10 years too. During the Fate route (that awful, awful route), it's made explicitly clear that Arturia's reign lasted 10 years before Mordred's rebellion and, ultimately, her death. |
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Zelkiiro said: TheDeadApostle said: @flannan She's around 25 I think. Pulled the sword at 15 and ruled for around 10 years. She'd be closer to 22-24. Shirou does describe her as looking "several years younger than me," and since Shirou's in his 2nd year of high school, he's 16 years old. Wait what? ES = 16 SB = ES - (several years) so therefore SB ~= 10 (?!) |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: Zelkiiro said: She'd be closer to 22-24. Shirou does describe her as looking "several years younger than me," and since Shirou's in his 2nd year of high school, he's 16 years old. Wait what? ES = 16 SB = ES - (several years) so therefore SB ~= 10 (?!) When Saber pulled out Caliburn, she stopped aging, so she's in her 20s but still looks like she's in her early teens. She would've been 12-14 when she pulled the sword out, if Shirou's description is to be believed (and since he's the VN's narrator, it kinda has to be). |
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| Female characters who look physically average but are mentally strong are attractive to me. |
| Erza Scarlet is working, right?? ^_^° But I like both strong male or female characters |
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Sefika said: That is mostly thanks to those that have a conversation with each other on this thread.....I am okay with all types of characters as long as they are well-written. That's it. It has nothing to do with gender or other shit. I don't see why this tread is that big and keeps appearing on my main page. |
Bulma777 said: Erza Scarlet is working, right?? ^_^° But I like both strong male or female characters Not really. Too many asspulls in Fairy Tail. |
Zelkiiro said: When Saber pulled out Caliburn, she stopped aging, so she's in her 20s but still looks like she's in her early teens. She would've been 12-14 when she pulled the sword out, if Shirou's description is to be believed (and since he's the VN's narrator, it kinda has to be). This has strange implications and it also seems to be contradicted by the vast majority of artwork depicting Saber...though that's subject to the fact that age is not exactly easily-determined by looking at a character's age in anime. Oh well, whatever. |
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| Is it me or for what I've read here, people thinks strong likeable character means someone crushing skulls? I find this argument too easy.... For instance, I prefer way more Hana from Wolf Children than Erza Scarlet from Fairy Tail. Hana didn't fear the true form of his husband, still love him and has sacrificied nearly everything to raise alone her two supernatural children. I mean, damn! She has guts! But Erza? Except her harsh past, what does she have? Everytime she's in trouble, she get a new plot armor (litteraly!). What makes her interesting? Her godlike powers? Her looks? The fact she nearly wins all her fights? She can beat 100 divine giants by herserlf? That's not being strong. That's being powerfull... Or I think Medusa from Soul Eater is way more scarier than Rory Mercury. I'll be more afraid of Medusa because she's a machiavellian witch with a twisted mind but intelligent. Rory is a lolita with god powers and a big axe and orgams when people die around her. What makes her scary? The fact she's potentialy invincible and loves killing things? Comparing those both characters is like comparing the Joker with Harley Quinn (I mean current ones). One is frightening as hell even he's not super strong. The other is psychotic but that's all except writers tend to balance her lack of mind by hot-bitch attitude... It's the same things with male characters. I prefer way more Shinji Hikari than Naruto or Luffy.. Shinji isn't a badass at all but the fact they makes him so human It makes him likeable. Naruto/Luffy have a goal, they're determined to death to rush it, they're dumb but nice and they're freaking strong, but what's else? Everytime they get a hard moment, they're still on their dreams, they didn't change their minds. They gain more powers and what else? I don't care if a character is a god of war, a charismatic leader if he's boring or,worse, freaking annoying. The character must has something more than blood, victories and a japanese canon beauty look on his CVs! I still prefer a weak character with this "something" than a powerfull one without anything behind. |
| I like strong female characters, but they don't need to kick asses or win always. I prefer mental strength, tbh. Good characterization and a bit of badassery is all I need to love a female character... or a male one too. |
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Ryuunokebab said: Those are the ppl that in real life say "Women are just for the kitchen". ^THIS^ I like strong female characters, only if the character isn't used as sex icon... |
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| Nope! They're always my favorite characters if anything. |
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| Personally I love seeing well written female characters that can be badass. However in general it seems that female characters in anime get the short end of the stick mainly due to creators pandering to their main demographic. From my experience a large amount of people who watch anime are either
Both audiences hurt the chances of creators developing stronger female leads that exist as great characters in their own right without having to be sexualized or paired with a strong male character. |
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| Well, I actually like female fighters more than male ones, in anime. If done well, a strong female character can be totally amazing. Let's take the Touhou franchise as an example: Gensokyo is full of badass women. And it's the coolest thing ever. (Yukari ma waifu) Anyway, the guy who wrote the comment seems to be a One Piece fag. So I wouldn't give him that much importance. |
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turkhananime said: İt's a fact that most men are stronger than girls, so it's not strange that men are potrayed stronger in anime. İt's men who fight wars, shed blood etc. Sure you have exceptions in history, but it is rare. Also Japanese culture is men based, so you can't expect it from anime.İ really liked strong female characters such as Kallen (Code Geass) and Saber (Fate Zero). İ actually like it when girls are smart in anime and do not cry constantly or are being annoying. But İ can not take a anime seriously when a girl beats a boy with power, unless the girl is for example like Clare (Claymore) or Ezra (FT) with strong masculine features. most popular female character is yuno gassai, just saying... |
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Kuma said: turkhananime said: İt's a fact that most men are stronger than girls, so it's not strange that men are potrayed stronger in anime. İt's men who fight wars, shed blood etc. Sure you have exceptions in history, but it is rare. Also Japanese culture is men based, so you can't expect it from anime.İ really liked strong female characters such as Kallen (Code Geass) and Saber (Fate Zero). İ actually like it when girls are smart in anime and do not cry constantly or are being annoying. But İ can not take a anime seriously when a girl beats a boy with power, unless the girl is for example like Clare (Claymore) or Ezra (FT) with strong masculine features. most popular female character is yuno gassai, just saying... That only says that ppl just like shitty Dere characters...... |
Bourmegar said: Kuma said: most popular female character is yuno gassai, just saying... That only says that ppl just like shitty Dere characters...... but she is strong.. that's what those shitty wish fullfilment want right? seriously, what's the different? |
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Kuma said: but she is strong.. that's what those shitty wish fullfilment want right? seriously, what's the different? no the shitty wish fulfillment want someone who is always there for them in a way that make a character seem Unnatural. Like Yuno, She only wants Yukiteru........... and she is all about him......... |
| So Shounen is aimed at a young male audience yes but I don't believe that should prevent a female character for being a potential role model to male readers alongside female readers. I feel like anyone can take inspiration from anyone, regardless of gender, race, sexual orientation, religion, so I don't agree with the idea that because of a shows target demographic that should restrict what a protagonist could be like, so I don't see a problem with a female protagonist in a shounen manga/anime, or any manga/anime for that matter. Content creators in the anime/manga industry shouldn't have to box themselves in with that bullshit, and neither should viewers. |
| i dont hate Strong female characters when they are in an anime where the Protagonist is a male character that is stronger than her and that she isnt the enemy of the anime but when the Female character is the strongest in an anime i most likely wont watch it since i dont get the same feeling i do as when i watch Male Characters |
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