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grrr:


thoughts:
-No vote for me thus far this game which I like but raises concerns because it's something he likes to do. So the fact it isn't happening here is making me question why things have changed?
#113 - This is the closest thing to a claim from grrr thus far. I am used to town grrr claiming something early.
#116 - I am assuming he envisions Karote being the Mayor of this game of as long as he s alive. Not sure if this comes from town or scum mindset.
#124 - I know he likes to claim early and in this instance rather than just straight up do it (which I half expected) he asks for our thoughts and says he wants to mass claim. I have brought up the possibility of a negative reduction to this but he doesn't seems to care as he hasn't responded to it.
#136 - I find it hypocritical to talk to someone else about their vote when he hasn't placed one of his own. Also it seems he's more suspicious of ironace for not voting or at least wants to get him going by voting him but he votes Shinichi in this same post?
#137 - I don't think it's useless and on days that he cannot use his ability he can still use his Captain Role in the way being suggested.
#143 - Explains to reiynii why he feels his plan is worth outing town roles. I don't agree but eh...
#167 - This one is weird because they were both town that game?

Questions Grrr:
If there is a jumper or executioner do you still think it's worth the risk to mass claim?
in #140 you told Penta that reiynii having 5 husbands is not normal. What does this tell you about his alignment if nothing why is it relevant?
in #165 you say the Miller can stay silent since they probably wouldn't be counter claimed. While I could see mafia wanting to fake claim this role it's extremely dangerous for them to do so. Wouldn't the Miller coming forward give us 2 confirmed town? Also with multiple watcher type abilities we can watch Miller to see if SK tries to kill them no?

In conclusion I am good with my vote where it is and would like people to weigh in on this. It's small and I may do a few more here shortly since we have so many who have posted so little.

Militus


Thoughts:
#414 - These posts always rub me the wrong way no matter the alignment because D1 is actually the day that plays the biggest part in how the game progresses.
#416 - IDK how to read this move as it's something I would expect mafia not to want to do (drawing attention to themselves in this way) but the vote kind of is what I would expect mafia to do (get up on a lead train for easy reasons).
#424 - Similar to #414, I guess with the level of effort they aren't expecting much back.
#425 - Why does they have to jump up on the lead train to do this? No reasons of their own for voting this is a red flag.
#428 - Would be nice if he told us what he wanted to check at some point? Lets see if that happens
#433 - Tells wen he needs a sacrifice to confirm his suspicions, this is extremely anti town an I was sure willing to lynch him for it. If we need a sacrificed then it should be Militus he just tells us what his plan was and we carry it out for him if he flips town. This is how you deal with people who want to sacrifice other you turn their logic on themselves.
#448 and #468 - This is some serious white knighting of AbuHumaid in these posts with nothing to support it.
#482 - I will argue against this as mislynches have lead to very little useful information for town to this point in games I have played. Only good information from a lynch is when it's scum.
#485 - Logic read what they said multiple times and the motive isn't clear.
#503 - I don't like all this talk of lynching Shinichi and Abu when they haven't shared their own views on any of the player base. Sure we can go through the trains but what gives me more information is reading players actual thoughts. Something Militus has avoided doing to this point.
#532 - This confuses me if you though that Shinichi's train was made on purpose why are you voting there.
#536 - This one really chapped me as he answered Coelestin's question earlier saying "why me" and not says that he doesn't remember the question.

Questions Militus:
In #410 you said you would contribute when you caught up. Am I to assume you never caught up D1? Have you caught up now? and are you going to contribute?
In #428 he says he wants to check something never follows up on it.
In #433 you say you need a sacrifice to confirm something. Was it confirmed with the lynch of reiynii? If not you can be today's sacrifice so tell me you plan so I can carry it out in your stead?
In #485 you asked me to read what you said again. I still don't see a clearly town motive in what you are doing. In fact most of us think it's scummy we just haven't figured out if it's truth in plain sight or just bad town play?
In 532 you said Shinichi's train looks organized and not natural if his train was organized (planned) doesn't that make him not the mafia? So why did you leave your vote on him?
I would really like you to answer #467, it's a big part of the reason I scum read you because you played around instead of answering the question then said in #536 you forgot due to too many other pinging you. While I do feel town take things more lightheartedly than mafia you attitude doesn't say town to me at all. Especially since when it was brought to your attention again you still didn't answer the question.
Are you ready to reveal your "master plan" or was that #601?
In #601 you tell Karote you might be 3rd part well since reiynii flipped frost that would make you the SK. Also if you are town trying to cause confusion and suspicion is what Mafia want to do so you will get yourself lynched quick if you continue. As of right now I have no issues lynching you and honestly feel you are SK or mafia due to your gameplay thus far.

yurkin


Thoughts:
#260 and #266 - Says she wanted to vote Yamin in RVS but it's over still votes Yamin 6 post later?
#279 - Says she wants to ask Abu questions lets see if she follows up.
#292 - Asks for clarification but doesn't tag the person who needs to clarify it. Look for follow up to this.
#317 - I really like this post and I will have to look for wen's response later. I think she gets tow points for this? She could have just let this slide here's no need for mafia to point this out.
#326 - Though she misunderstood what I was doing there I get the same feeling as #317
#437 - Kind of like this line of questioning wish I would have see more interactions right after.
#722 - After seeing all these posts I am believer in this.
#730 - Generally I feel like scum would feel pressure to move here in an effort to try ad look tow but yurkin doubles down on her vote.
#946 - More unneeded attention I dot think scum bring on themselves?
#954 - Not sure what to make of this one. Could be mafia not wanting attention but feels more like just knowing there are other better roles than hers.
#962 - Great defense against a bogus claim form wen.
#1414 - I really like this post and what followed for a few reasons. 1. She is wondering why I am parking my vote on an inactive player that we have no read on. She voted them yesterday but sees the futility in this effort. 2. I am basically confirmed town at this point and she is not afraid to call me out for BS (something town should be doing). 3. Because it's someone she voted all D1 she is brining negative attention to herself by even questioning me (SuzakuTsubasa was drawn that way).
#1638 - Doesn't look like much but I like that she asked Denja why she is the exception.
#1731 - Doesn't seem like the type of response that would come from scum given that Suzaku misrepresented her though it's possible.
#1975 - Trying to understand Tsubasa's mindset is a townie thing.
#1999 - Reads as asked for by Tsubasa these feel good not following others or going with the flow.
#2007 - Reads as asked for by Tsubasa these feel a bit safe but I can understand them.

Questions yurkin:
I didn't realize Yamin was basically a RVS vote for you. Why is it you felt there was no one better to vote for in #714?
Why leave an RVS for an entire phase I will need evidence of where you have done this in other games.
What are your suspicions of Penta for?
What are your suspicions of wen for?
How do you currently feel about ironace?

Rinto-kun said:
Hmm... @wen294 shoot ironace if anon doesn't post any message at night, somebody pls guard wen, etc. Get in full battle mode boys.
Unvote Everyone had better take down their votes on grrr because this is madness >.>

Rinto-kun said:
Vote: Sleipnirr *choo choo* Anyone?

Rinto-kun said:
Guess I'll speak everyone's mind here.
Vote: Militus

Rinto-kun said:
Bomb him at night, I say >.<