dankickyou said: Don't fall for it, he's only gonna throw more nonsensical things that he pulled out of a grapefruit (or soursop).lupadim said: A sword can cut a wooden spear shaft, it just depends on how strong you swing the sword and the quality of the wood the spear has. Also, Spartans did use the spear extensively, I never denied that, I just used the "300 vs millions" example. So stop talking please :s No, they cannot. A muscle powered swing cannot cut through solid wood worth a damn with a sword unless it is braced. the mechanics simply do not support it, it will simply push the shaft to the side. Spartans never faced "millions". At Thermopylae, there were 6000+ Greeks and less than a eighty thousand Persians. :v Meanwhile I'll just add the point that spears can be 1 handed as well. And with one free hand, you're free to use whatever dirty fighting you're up for (throwing stones, dirt, parrying blades if you're wearing gauntlets) and more. |
MellowJello said: Meanwhile I'll just add the point that spears can be 1 handed as well. And with one free hand, you're free to use whatever dirty fighting you're up for (throwing stones, dirt, parrying blades if you're wearing gauntlets) and more. Everyone and their Mom loved spears for a reason. :p |
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| If you are strong enough (anime OP strong) use dual wielding sword so you can cut the spear head off then kill |
Fortheza said: If you are strong enough (anime OP strong) use dual wielding sword so you can cut the spear head off then kill wat? :s |
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dankickyou said: MellowJello said: Meanwhile I'll just add the point that spears can be 1 handed as well. And with one free hand, you're free to use whatever dirty fighting you're up for (throwing stones, dirt, parrying blades if you're wearing gauntlets) and more. Everyone and their Mom loved spears for a reason. :p Because they were the longest phallic object on the battle field? |
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Infinite said: dankickyou said: MellowJello said: Meanwhile I'll just add the point that spears can be 1 handed as well. And with one free hand, you're free to use whatever dirty fighting you're up for (throwing stones, dirt, parrying blades if you're wearing gauntlets) and more. Everyone and their Mom loved spears for a reason. :p Because they were the longest phallic object on the battle field? Obviously. however that honor may actually go to the kopia lance. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F7ITdi7M89c/Uop35iOIhbI/AAAAAAAAD2o/qb5e9MsOSd4/s1600/husarz+kopia+1.jpg |
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| Spear obviously he has more range |
| If we also taking possible defensive stance into consideration, spears would be a better weapon of choice. Unlike in movies, video games, or anime- you can't block attacks with your blade, the only way a sword may used to block something is using it's hilt guard. Swords are used mainly to parry attack, and by holding two swords in hand it would make parry difficult, or even impossible, against a strong attack like a two handed spear thrusts. In terms of defense or block, a wide defensive dagger would do a better job than a sword. With two handed spears, you'll have enough strength in your stances to parry light attack, like one handed swords swings. Spears can also be use to block attack with its body, and given that you hold it with two hand, it gives more rigid stance than a one handed shields. Now we should also consider offensive factor. Given a spear long body, a full strength swipe from a spear is strong enough to break a swords parry, and could even disarm a weak grip stance like one handed sword (or dual wield in this scenario). Dual wielded sword relies on flows of successive attacks, which only useful against a person who has no protective armors or defensive weapons, even Musashi Miyamoto is not a 'true' 'dual wielded' swordsman, his uses two different swords, his short sword is used as defensive dagger, just like the European style of fencing (sword and dagger combination), while his attack mostly using his longer swords. niten'ichi Ryu uses the flow between parrying and attacking of these swords which overwhelmed single bladed users. So it is not as how it was often portrayed in popular culture, wielding two identical sword class in both hands. |
azzuReJan 15, 2014 2:58 AM
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| Dual wielding reminds me of Kirito so . . . I gotta say spear for the win. |
| I think the spear wielder would require way more skill in order to beat a skillful dual blader because dual blading is more flexible :) |
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| If you think dual wielding is a good idea, you should stop watching anime for while. |
judgelethal said: If you think dual wielding is a good idea, you should stop watching anime for while. Actually it is if you know how... |
| it depends on the length of the spear but totally the spear if its long enough and the person using it isn't a wimp. |
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Devastation123 said: if your a pro yes it is easy but if you is a noob you just shouldn't.judgelethal said: If you think dual wielding is a good idea, you should stop watching anime for while. Actually it is if you know how... |
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text27 said: Devastation123 said: if your a pro yes it is easy but if you is a noob you just shouldn't.judgelethal said: If you think dual wielding is a good idea, you should stop watching anime for while. Actually it is if you know how... Well since im NOOB i repeat NOOB i would just drop one sword and kill him with another :/ |
shintai88 said: Devastation123 said: text27 said: Devastation123 said: if your a pro yes it is easy but if you is a noob you just shouldn't.judgelethal said: If you think dual wielding is a good idea, you should stop watching anime for while. Actually it is if you know how... Well since im NOOB i repeat NOOB i would just drop one sword and kill him with another :/ Actually in that case, you'd have a bettter chance of creating an opening if you threw the other sword at him. Its just waste of time... Drop sword, catch spear then pull it and stab opponent... Thats why throwing would be waste... |
Devastation123 said: if the spear user is good he would be thrusting you it would be hard to catch...shintai88 said: Devastation123 said: text27 said: Devastation123 said: if your a pro yes it is easy but if you is a noob you just shouldn't.judgelethal said: If you think dual wielding is a good idea, you should stop watching anime for while. Actually it is if you know how... Well since im NOOB i repeat NOOB i would just drop one sword and kill him with another :/ Actually in that case, you'd have a bettter chance of creating an opening if you threw the other sword at him. Its just waste of time... Drop sword, catch spear then pull it and stab opponent... Thats why throwing would be waste... |
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text27 said: Devastation123 said: if the spear user is good he would be thrusting you it would be hard to catch...shintai88 said: Devastation123 said: text27 said: Devastation123 said: if your a pro yes it is easy but if you is a noob you just shouldn't.judgelethal said: If you think dual wielding is a good idea, you should stop watching anime for while. Actually it is if you know how... Well since im NOOB i repeat NOOB i would just drop one sword and kill him with another :/ Actually in that case, you'd have a bettter chance of creating an opening if you threw the other sword at him. Its just waste of time... Drop sword, catch spear then pull it and stab opponent... Thats why throwing would be waste... Since im noob with dual wielding it would be unfair if he were experienced... |
shintai88 said: If you were going to catch the spear without creating an opening you would most likely fail, since if your a noob I doubt you would be able to catch the first strike. So instead of just dropping the extra sword, throw it. Noob would dodge or try to deflect. making it easier for you to grab the spear. Otherwise the noob just has to stand his ground and keep the spear at a dgood distance, and jsut counterattack as soon as you come within range. Also thrusting is not the only attack option of the spear. I would easily catch spear... Im not too sure i would be able to land a hit tho And i doubt i would need to do anything without opening since opponent probably wouldnt be able to use it... |
shintai88 said: Considering we are basing this arguement on two noobs I doubt it would play out the way you or I say. Since in event it could play out either way. For all we know the spear noob would wield the spear like sword. and in that case the swing would be more powerful then your shorter weapon. But since your both noobs I doubt any damage would be done to either since you would be to wary of each other, and afriad of getting hurt. And since grabbing or catching a spear requires not only courage, and timing its not the most effective tactic. Not to mention you would need to know how to side step or advance forward in order to catch or grab the spear which a noob won't have. So we decided that i would win :/ |
shintai88 said: i would win with my spear attack yo face.Devastation123 said: shintai88 said: Considering we are basing this arguement on two noobs I doubt it would play out the way you or I say. Since in event it could play out either way. For all we know the spear noob would wield the spear like sword. and in that case the swing would be more powerful then your shorter weapon. But since your both noobs I doubt any damage would be done to either since you would be to wary of each other, and afriad of getting hurt. And since grabbing or catching a spear requires not only courage, and timing its not the most effective tactic. Not to mention you would need to know how to side step or advance forward in order to catch or grab the spear which a noob won't have. So we decided that i would win :/ Nope. |
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shintai88 said: ok lets be realDevastation123 said: shintai88 said: Considering we are basing this arguement on two noobs I doubt it would play out the way you or I say. Since in event it could play out either way. For all we know the spear noob would wield the spear like sword. and in that case the swing would be more powerful then your shorter weapon. But since your both noobs I doubt any damage would be done to either since you would be to wary of each other, and afriad of getting hurt. And since grabbing or catching a spear requires not only courage, and timing its not the most effective tactic. Not to mention you would need to know how to side step or advance forward in order to catch or grab the spear which a noob won't have. So we decided that i would win :/ Nope. faster one would win :/ |
Devastation123 said: me of course full chop is hard to block :3shintai88 said: ok lets be realDevastation123 said: shintai88 said: Considering we are basing this arguement on two noobs I doubt it would play out the way you or I say. Since in event it could play out either way. For all we know the spear noob would wield the spear like sword. and in that case the swing would be more powerful then your shorter weapon. But since your both noobs I doubt any damage would be done to either since you would be to wary of each other, and afriad of getting hurt. And since grabbing or catching a spear requires not only courage, and timing its not the most effective tactic. Not to mention you would need to know how to side step or advance forward in order to catch or grab the spear which a noob won't have. So we decided that i would win :/ Nope. faster one would win :/ |
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Devastation123 said: judgelethal said: If you think dual wielding is a good idea, you should stop watching anime for while. Actually it is if you know how... No.... |
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| Spear. It's really just one throw then done. Chances of dual blades being able to deflect such a projectile is zero to none |
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MagicalMahou said: Spear. It's really just one throw then done. Chances of dual blades being able to deflect such a projectile is zero to none Its easy to dodge spear :/ And throwing away your only weapon isnt really smartest idea... |
Devastation123 said: MagicalMahou said: Spear. It's really just one throw then done. Chances of dual blades being able to deflect such a projectile is zero to none Its easy to dodge spear :/ And throwing away your only weapon isnt really smartest idea... If you can dodge spear thrusts, then maybe you can dodge arrows.. Spear is one of the close range weapons that is hard to read, save the flexible 'slapping' Chinese spears, a spearman (anywhere in the world) basic stance is always point the tip to the opponent eyes, to give an illusion of depth that would makes it difficult for one to estimate the length of the pole and the speed of it's thrusts, while it's swipe is always wide where the tip of the blade is outside of opponent field of vision. Chances are, if you're within the spear reach, you won't see it coming. |
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azzuRe said: Devastation123 said: MagicalMahou said: Spear. It's really just one throw then done. Chances of dual blades being able to deflect such a projectile is zero to none Its easy to dodge spear :/ And throwing away your only weapon isnt really smartest idea... If you can dodge spear thrusts, then maybe you can dodge arrows.. Spear is one of the close range weapons that is hard to read, save the flexible 'slapping' Chinese spears, a spearman (anywhere in the world) basic stance is always point the tip to the opponent eyes, to give an illusion of depth that would makes it difficult for one to estimate the length of the pole and the speed of it's thrusts, while it's swipe is always wide where the tip of the blade is outside of opponent field of vision. Chances are, if you're within the spear reach, you won't see it coming. In case of that experienced opponent i wouldnt even bother to dodge :/ |
Devastation123 said: azzuRe said: Devastation123 said: MagicalMahou said: Spear. It's really just one throw then done. Chances of dual blades being able to deflect such a projectile is zero to none Its easy to dodge spear :/ And throwing away your only weapon isnt really smartest idea... If you can dodge spear thrusts, then maybe you can dodge arrows.. Spear is one of the close range weapons that is hard to read, save the flexible 'slapping' Chinese spears, a spearman (anywhere in the world) basic stance is always point the tip to the opponent eyes, to give an illusion of depth that would makes it difficult for one to estimate the length of the pole and the speed of it's thrusts, while it's swipe is always wide where the tip of the blade is outside of opponent field of vision. Chances are, if you're within the spear reach, you won't see it coming. In case of that experienced opponent i wouldnt even bother to dodge :/ There's always a weakness against any type of weapons or whatever it is move, because if there's none, then everyone will just be that kind of a martial artist. Experts will know how to evade spears, they sure are trained on how to deal against that technique of yours. |
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| Blades are more badass though, no doubt. |
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YolozuyaSwagDad said: Blades on spears are even more badass though, no doubt.Blades are more badass though, no doubt. |
YolozuyaSwagDad said: Blades are more badass though, no doubt. but that badass wont be badass anymore when he gets killed :/ |
Ckan said: Blades on spears are even more badass though, no doubt. Spears on blades are the most bad of asses. |
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VNitsua said: Ckan said: Blades on spears are even more badass though, no doubt. Spears on blades are the most bad of asses. then why dont put bazookas on arrows and they will once again be most badass weapon :/ |
Devastation123 said: YolozuyaSwagDad said: Blades are more badass though, no doubt. but that badass wont be badass anymore when he gets killed :/ Looks>result |
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VNitsua said: Ckan said: Blades on spears are even more badass though, no doubt. Spears on blades are the most bad of asses. They are strongest when thrown underarm with topspin. |
pauro19 said: Devastation123 said: azzuRe said: Devastation123 said: MagicalMahou said: Spear. It's really just one throw then done. Chances of dual blades being able to deflect such a projectile is zero to none Its easy to dodge spear :/ And throwing away your only weapon isnt really smartest idea... If you can dodge spear thrusts, then maybe you can dodge arrows.. Spear is one of the close range weapons that is hard to read, save the flexible 'slapping' Chinese spears, a spearman (anywhere in the world) basic stance is always point the tip to the opponent eyes, to give an illusion of depth that would makes it difficult for one to estimate the length of the pole and the speed of it's thrusts, while it's swipe is always wide where the tip of the blade is outside of opponent field of vision. Chances are, if you're within the spear reach, you won't see it coming. In case of that experienced opponent i wouldnt even bother to dodge :/ There's always a weakness against any type of weapons or whatever it is move, because if there's none, then everyone will just be that kind of a martial artist. Experts will know how to evade spears, they sure are trained on how to deal against that technique of yours. While it's true, there are far less experts in real battle, which is the reason why spears is used for millennium in combat for its simplicity and effectiveness in the battlefield, and that is why in most traditional armed martial arts, staff (or spears equivalent) is one of the basic arts one has to learn before advancing into the main weapon course. |
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