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Sep 29, 2012 5:59 AM

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j0x said:
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A lot of people enjoyt it, thats why its so popular.
Different tastes and all that stuff,

Anime is not something that can be rated in a objective way.


no the point of this thread i made is that Sword Art Online is not one of the SMARTEST ANIME out there

Its not, I already know that article was beyond retarded.

I'm replying to otaking, not you. I'm sorry if that hurts your ego.

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Yes, I know. I am not necessarily saying that SAO is a harem- I know it's not. I'm just saying that it's kind of-how to say it in a nice way-annoying how he has girls around him every episode. It's starting to get old.

I was just adding that the LN isnt any better at this:P
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They gave up but that doesn't mean they will stop loving Kirito. And they did show their expression of love to Kirito ( Liz, Lyfa, Asuna). In this case SAO is pretty much suit into the definition of harem. Where 3 girls(or above) all confessed their love.
Sub-genre, mind the words since SAO isn't focused sorely on relationship between Kirito and other girls.

It has harem as its sub-genre, harem is not its main focused like Shuffle, Imouto Kono.


Yeah but others make it sound like SAO is a harem series like any other wit the main focus on how many girls will fall in love with Kirito.
Even when Yui appeared they added her in the "harem girls".Before they even see ep12 ,Yuriel was also added to the harem.
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ssjokg said:
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Yes, I know. I am not necessarily saying that SAO is a harem- I know it's not. I'm just saying that it's kind of-how to say it in a nice way-annoying how he has girls around him every episode. It's starting to get old.

I was just adding that the LN isnt any better at this:P
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ssjokg said:


They gave up but that doesn't mean they will stop loving Kirito. And they did show their expression of love to Kirito ( Liz, Lyfa, Asuna). In this case SAO is pretty much suit into the definition of harem. Where 3 girls(or above) all confessed their love.
Sub-genre, mind the words since SAO isn't focused sorely on relationship between Kirito and other girls.

It has harem as its sub-genre, harem is not its main focused like Shuffle, Imouto Kono.


Yeah but others make it sound like SAO is a harem series like any other wit the main focus on how many girls will fall in love with Kirito.
Even when Yui appeared they added her in the "harem girls".Before they even see ep12 ,Yuriel was also added to the harem.


Pretty much what the anime has shown for us, they are not wrong.

Sachi in episode 3
Silica in episode 4
Liz beth 7
And now Asuna is officially his waifu.
The anime makes SAO looks like a harem series.
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ssjokg said:
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Yes, I know. I am not necessarily saying that SAO is a harem- I know it's not. I'm just saying that it's kind of-how to say it in a nice way-annoying how he has girls around him every episode. It's starting to get old.

I was just adding that the LN isnt any better at this:P
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ssjokg said:


They gave up but that doesn't mean they will stop loving Kirito. And they did show their expression of love to Kirito ( Liz, Lyfa, Asuna). In this case SAO is pretty much suit into the definition of harem. Where 3 girls(or above) all confessed their love.
Sub-genre, mind the words since SAO isn't focused sorely on relationship between Kirito and other girls.

It has harem as its sub-genre, harem is not its main focused like Shuffle, Imouto Kono.


Yeah but others make it sound like SAO is a harem series like any other wit the main focus on how many girls will fall in love with Kirito.
Even when Yui appeared they added her in the "harem girls".Before they even see ep12 ,Yuriel was also added to the harem.


Just goes to show that, to the general watchers, SAO is becoming predictable with the girls coming left and right. See a girl in the preview? She's going to have something to do with Kirito. It's becoming the norm 50% if not more percent of the time.

Also, despite not reading the LN, I already know about ALO. I don't know WHAT it is other than the fact that it's another RPG game world and it involves magic rather than dueling with swords, etc.
I find that kind of annoying. It's inevitable for someone who has not read the LN to find out about ALO sooner or later through the forums or even comments on streaming websites. It's kind of a spoiler in a way. That ruins a bit of the fun for me and possibly other people who have not read the novels :( But, then again, we can't blame the people who already read the LN, they just won't put spoiler tags because now almost everyone is aware of ALO existing in the series.

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HibiChouchou said:
ssjokg said:
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Yes, I know. I am not necessarily saying that SAO is a harem- I know it's not. I'm just saying that it's kind of-how to say it in a nice way-annoying how he has girls around him every episode. It's starting to get old.

I was just adding that the LN isnt any better at this:P
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ssjokg said:


They gave up but that doesn't mean they will stop loving Kirito. And they did show their expression of love to Kirito ( Liz, Lyfa, Asuna). In this case SAO is pretty much suit into the definition of harem. Where 3 girls(or above) all confessed their love.
Sub-genre, mind the words since SAO isn't focused sorely on relationship between Kirito and other girls.

It has harem as its sub-genre, harem is not its main focused like Shuffle, Imouto Kono.


Yeah but others make it sound like SAO is a harem series like any other wit the main focus on how many girls will fall in love with Kirito.
Even when Yui appeared they added her in the "harem girls".Before they even see ep12 ,Yuriel was also added to the harem.


Pretty much what the anime has shown for us, they are not wrong.

Sachi in episode 3
Silica in episode 4
Liz beth 7
And now Asuna is officially his waifu.
The anime makes SAO looks like a harem series.
Sacchi and Silica never had a romantic part in the story.Sacchi had her problems and Silica was embarrassed the entire time because of her new "older brother".
And even if you count Silica,Liz an Sacchi it's 3 eps out of 13 till now.

If a girl talking to the MC means that she loves him then why dont we add the redhaired female player and Yoruko to the harem?
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So many haters on SAO. It's the guys opinion, get over it. Personally I love SAO but is it the smartest or greatest animes of all time the answer is no. It's funny how some of you say its overrated but I bet your still watching it just to continue to bitch about it since you have nothing better to do. And to people saying GC is better than SAO you're crazy. SAO's story actually makes sense unlike GC.
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Has anyone that is bothered by his claim asked him what other anime he has recently watched? "Sword Art Online Is the Smartest Anime I’ve Seen in Years" really depends on what he has seen and not just the quality(Which clearly his opinion is going to be higher then the opinion of a hater) of the anime.

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ssjokg said:


technically yes if the story revolves around different female characters paired up with Kirito.
They introduced 4 different girls (sachi, silica, liz, asuna) and each of them has their own story and screen time together with the main character. And a series which (will) has 3 girls confess their love to mc. (we gonna see lyfa confesses later on ALO part).

It's not just me who see harem elements in this SAO anime.
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HibiChouchou said:
ssjokg said:


technically yes if the story revolves around different female characters paired up with Kirito.
They introduced 4 different girls (sachi, silica, liz, asuna) and each of them has their own story and screen time together with the main character. And a series which (will) has 3 girls confess their love to mc. (we gonna see lyfa confesses later on ALO part).

It's not just me who see harem elements in this SAO anime.


See what I mean when I say many, if not most, SAO fans don't mind spoiling parts because they think it's ok and everyone 'already knows' anyway?

Not that it matters, I'm not surprised at all that two or even 50 girls confess to Kirito with the way things are going...
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HibiChouchou said:
ssjokg said:


technically yes if the story revolves around different female characters paired up with Kirito.
They introduced 4 different girls (sachi, silica, liz, asuna) andeach of them has their own story and screen time together with the main character. And a series which (will) has 3 girls confess their love to mc. (we gonna see lyfa confesses later on ALO part).

It's not just me who see harem elements in this SAO anime.


You understand that just because they were with the MC it doesnt mean it was harem right?Only Liz,Asuna
had romantic feelings for him.If for any other reason(except maybe him having feelings for other girls) the anime is called a harem, then the word harem pretty much loses it's meaning.
Sep 29, 2012 7:37 AM

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Lol
I'm not gonna argue with that opinion
SAO is pretty good, but not smart. Maybe smart in grabbing people attention?
Sep 29, 2012 7:47 AM

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Vizi_Reality said:
Lol
I'm not gonna argue with that opinion
SAO is pretty good, but not smart. Maybe smart in grabbing people attention?


Smart at publicity and marketing, that's for sure..
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Sep 29, 2012 7:54 AM
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ssjokg said:


They are part of Kirito's harem, it makes more sense.

Only Liz, Asuna and


How many girls have feelings for him do you think to make SAO become officially a harem anime? Tell me? Just only 3 girls fall in love with him isn't enough to make it a harem? Lol, then you need to learn the term harem, again.

Right now it's pretty much has harem elements when a bunch of girls were introduced and more than half of them develop romantic feelings for Kirito. If Sachi was still alive, do you think that she would just let other girl steal Kirit away from her? Nope. ( and who knows she would become kirito's gf later on?)
And please, the anime didn't even focus on Sachi x Kirito relationship aspect so audiences didn't know the feeling she had for kirito was whether a family relationship or lover relationship (cause they shared the same bed, they were strangers and they slept together, that's what the anime showed us ).
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Most of us are not suggesting that SAO is a harem anime. But you cannot deny the fact that most of the players Kirito has interacted with so far are female.
FEMALE.
Women. Girls. Of ages.

Not all of them have him as a romantic interest, but that doesn't change the fact that Kirito is one chick magnet.

I'm expecting even more female characters to debut in the future, with at least one or two being significant to Kirito's so-called "harem".
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HibiChouchou said:

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As I said I havent read past vol8 because I am waiting for 10 to be translated.
Maybe you right and SAO turns out be a harem but until then like you said SAO has harem as a sub-genre.
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Kurimu-chan said:
Most of us are not suggesting that SAO is a harem anime. But you cannot deny the fact that most of the players Kirito has interacted with so far are female.
FEMALE.
Women. Girls. Of ages.
Obaa-san too


I'm expecting even more female characters to debut in the future, with at least one or two being significant to Kirito's so-called "harem".
Like I said Obaa-san is the next one to get laid with Kirito the BADARSE!!! Men can't live without women.
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Sep 29, 2012 9:25 AM

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Kotaku is known for being a retard site >.>

Seriously how is it the smartest? How is it even smart?
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Sep 29, 2012 9:33 AM

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>like a show
>become so popular
>dislike it because of that

Every single time.


To be honest, it was like this for me:
-Like a show because of the awesome frst ep
-Show becomes crap
-Dislike it but keep watching for the sake of the 1st ep

Btw, fan bases can be the catalyst for disliking a show.
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HibiChouchou said:
Except she's not gonna be a member.
Sep 29, 2012 12:25 PM

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Its just someones opinion. And some people agree.
Sep 29, 2012 12:44 PM
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Come on. Is it that bad that someone else likes what you don't like?

Well, I don't really agree with any of the Kotaku review points but still, gonna respect people's opinion.
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Sep 29, 2012 3:53 PM
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im all for respectings someones opinion but Kotaku.com is a popular website that can influence a lot of people into thinking Sword Art Online is the smartest anime in years when in fact their are better sci-fi anime like Steins;Gate or Madoka Magica... if this people that are duped by that review is gonna say Sword Art Online sucks after watching it then they might think that is all what the whole anime world has to offer
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j0x said:
im all for respectings someones opinion but Kotaku.com is a popular website that can influence a lot of people into thinking Sword Art Online is the smartest anime in years when in fact their are better sci-fi anime like Steins;Gate or Madoka Magica... if this people that are duped by that review is gonna say Sword Art Online sucks after watching it then they might think that is all what the whole anime world has to offer


Hopefully the people that are members of that site are smart enough to recognize an opinion when they see one and know that just because a reviewer like the show doesn't mean that they will.

Did the reviewer even see Steins;Gate or PMMM? If he hasn't even seen them then his claim is true and if he has seen them then maybe, just maybe he thinks SAO was smarter than both. Please remember, opinions are not facts.

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I remember when Kotaku announced that Square-Enix had canceled Final Fantasy Versus XIII.

As usual, they draw attention.
Sep 29, 2012 5:55 PM

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"smart" is really not the word.
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"smart" is really not the word.

Are you the author of that article?
Can you even tell me which definition of smart is being used?

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Obviously this guy has not watched Steins;Gate then.
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I remember when Kotaku announced that Square-Enix had canceled Final Fantasy Versus XIII.

As usual, they draw attention.


I couldn't help but LOL at the mention of FFXIII Versus.

That "game" has the tagline "You can't cancel what was never planned in the first place". Just created because they took forever and I believe they are still dragging it out. (They even prioritised what is literally FFXIII-3 before it, with announcement and alpha runs already on the loose.)

People's opinions will always remain people's opinions. You can disagree, you can attempt to change it if you know them, but to flame them is wrong.

Sometimes I think the internet should require some sort of etiquette certificate that needs to be regularly re-registered for users, so it will be a nicer place. (Of course it won't, it compromises the freedom, but the thought of that making the internet a legitimately nicer place is still a nice dream.)
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Its just someones opinion. And some people agree.

People who have barely seen any anime, yes.

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Come on. Is it that bad that someone else likes what you don't like?
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The problem is with him calling it the smartest anime, not with him liking it.

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I don't rate or like a show based on it being overrated or not. But well, speaking objectively, it's not the smartest anime even in last years.
Sep 29, 2012 6:25 PM

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def not the smartest anime....everyone who watches enough anime should agree on that. its awesome tho :D
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I find it funny we have already established that the author has not watched enough anime to accurate judge SAO as how good anime it is, but yet we find issues with him saying stuff like "SAO is smartest Anime" when we ALREADY know he doesn't watch enough anime and tends to make sweeping statements based on past records.

Shouldn't the correct action be "Ignore this unqualified guy's opnions", rather than "WTFBBQ DID HE SAY?"
Dec 27, 2012 10:02 AM

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>Good — An Excellent Villain
>Wat.
I'm a douche. Deal with it.
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>Good — An Excellent Villain
>Wat.
>Makes a claim and expects it to be taken seriously
>Shows no evidence or support for claim
>Wat.
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Red_Keys said:
Mortsyn said:
>Good — An Excellent Villain
>Wat.
>Makes a claim and expects it to be taken seriously
>Shows no evidence or support for claim
>Wat.

>Can't understand the joke.
>Expects to be explained the joke.
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Mortsyn said:
Red_Keys said:
Mortsyn said:
>Good — An Excellent Villain
>Wat.
>Makes a claim and expects it to be taken seriously
>Shows no evidence or support for claim
>Wat.

>Can't understand jokes.
>Expects to be explained the joke.
So your joke is that he is a good villain?

Well that wasn't very funny.
Dec 27, 2012 10:33 AM

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Not even convincing Red_Keys, not even convincing...




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Dec 27, 2012 10:36 AM

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This is the part where I'm confused if your first reply was aimed towards me or the reviewer. Or if you're just trolling me.

And in case you're wondering, then no. I don't think he's a good villain. He's an awful villain beyond explanation. No words can explain his awfulness.
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This is the part where I'm confused if your first reply was aimed towards me or the reviewer. Or if you're just trolling me.

And in case you're wondering, then no. I don't think he's a good villain. He's an awful villain beyond explanation. No words can explain his awfulness.
Well I guess my remark was just kind a friendly jest. People shouldn't take me seriously all the time..

But if you are saying that he is a bad villain, you should be able to support that claim with evidence. Which is kinda why I threw in my remark in the first place.
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Not even convincing Red_Keys, not even convincing...
Damn.
Dec 27, 2012 10:43 AM

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Which is like... Impossible to prove anyway. Only extremes can be noticeable truthfully.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Dec 27, 2012 10:45 AM

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But if you are saying that he is a bad villain, you should be able to support that claim with evidence. Which is kinda why I threw in my remark in the first place.

Impossible. I can't find the words. My brain would fry if I were to list all the things that makes him an awful villain. Let's just leave it at that.
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If you have an opinion, you should be able to support it with facts. Otherwise, it is a, and I dare to say this,


I'm not saying that opinions can't be subjective. If he has actual reasons as to why he doesn't like the villain, I can't say he is wrong. But it kind of helps others see your point if you include your reasons.

Saying "SAO is bad. Because...SAO is bad." is a baseless claim and completely stupid.
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Jesus. Some of you shitforbrains need to lay off SAO. I mean it's not the worst anime on here, and yet you treat it like it's the worst creation of mankind. Sure it's popular and people like it, but that it's popularity has already started to fall. PLus, who cares if someone has different tastes than you? If you want to cry about the same shit for eternity go to 4chan, they'll gladly accept you.
Dec 27, 2012 10:55 AM

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That SAO is bad needs no justification, it's just an unequivocal fact of life.
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If that's what you think, why did you watch the whole season?
Even now, after you watched it, you keep wasting your time talking about it. Don't you have anything better to do?
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Red_Keys said:
If you have an opinion, you should be able to support it with facts. Otherwise, it is a, and I dare to say this,


I'm not saying that opinions can't be subjective. If he has actual reasons as to why he doesn't like the villain, I can't say he is wrong. But it kind of helps others see your point if you include your reasons.

Saying "SAO is bad. Because...SAO is bad." is a baseless claim and completely stupid.

I did enough explaining why I don't like SAO in my review. I could add a lot more, but I'd rather not, because I'd be writting forever.
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Don't you have anything better to do?


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