mickdrew_99 said: FakePriest said: Because it is common sense? Blog,YT reviews,live reactions,fan translations,site reviews etc.I dont think either of these exist solely because people think they can help others. The CG label kind of betrays that. Never underestimate some people's willingness to make themselves look like the harbingers of justice or fairness. I dont think that "Priest beatdowns" have anything to do with justice or fairness tho... |
FakePriest said: mickdrew_99 said: The CG label kind of betrays that. Never underestimate some people's willingness to make themselves look like the harbingers of justice or fairness. I dont think that "Priest beatdowns" have anything to do with justice or fairness tho... You got a point. I mean, we do it cause we get a kick out of it, right? I guess I'm being too pessimistic. |
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| I'm not getting a kick out of it, I'm sick of the trash talk about a series that I genuinely like. |
CorePriest said: I'm not getting a kick out of it, I'm sick of the trash talk about a series that I genuinely like. Oh that's another issue that was discussed a while ago. What happens is we identify a part of ourselves in things that we like (be it a movie, show, book, or anything). So in a way, what we like becomes an extension of ourselves. So when someone attacks what we like, we perceive it as an attack against us personally. That's why we all get a knee-jerk reaction when hearing criticisms of something we genuinely like. |
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| I am not feeling attacked when someone makes constructive criticism. It's the dumb complaints, that irritate me. Like saying FZ is better written than FSN because in FSN Ilya calls Shirou "onii-chan". |
CorePriest said: I am not feeling attacked when someone makes constructive criticism. It's the dumb complaints, that irritate me. Like saying FZ is better written than FSN because in FSN Ilya calls Shirou "onii-chan". Oh God. That thread. Just don't even bring it up. |
CorePriest said: I am not feeling attacked when someone makes constructive criticism. It's the dumb complaints, that irritate me. Like saying FZ is better written than FSN because in FSN Ilya calls Shirou "onii-chan". Alright. Then take what I put above about our preferences being extensions of ourselves. The difference is that in this case, we perceive attacks against what we like as not paying proper respects or giving what we like (in this case FSN) the consideration we think it rightfully deserves. So in this case, perceived attacks are not the issue; the feeling that one is being disrespected is internalized. |
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InsertPriestHere said: CorePriest said: I am not feeling attacked when someone makes constructive criticism. It's the dumb complaints, that irritate me. Like saying FZ is better written than FSN because in FSN Ilya calls Shirou "onii-chan". Oh God. That thread. Just don't even bring it up. ? Now I'm interested... which thread? :O |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
CorePriest said: I am not feeling attacked when someone makes constructive criticism. It's the dumb complaints, that irritate me. Like saying FZ is better written than FSN because in FSN Ilya calls Shirou "onii-chan". Yes, those complains about "Onii-chan" and "Senpai" are indeed annoying. |
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Aurioch said: I refuse to tell you.InsertPriestHere said: Oh God. That thread. Just don't even bring it up. ? Now I'm interested... which thread? :O Just go to the Fate/Zero subforum. I'm sure you'll find the thread. And that dumb user I was referring to. Grey-Zone said: CorePriest said: I am not feeling attacked when someone makes constructive criticism. It's the dumb complaints, that irritate me. Like saying FZ is better written than FSN because in FSN Ilya calls Shirou "onii-chan". Yes, those complains about "Onii-chan" and "Senpai" are indeed annoying. I'm sure they also complain about Rin calling her father "otou-sama" and Sakura calling Taiga "sensei". What, they don't? |
| You know why we are irritated? Because of irrational shitpostslike these: http://www.anime-planet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229314 Every day. No one is against true criticism(well maybe Fake-kun), its the bullshit ones that turn us into porcupines. |
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CookingPriest said: No one is against true criticism(well maybe Fake-kun), its the bullshit ones that turn us into porcupines. That bait, though. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
CookingPriest said: Pretty sure Fake would agree with you completely if you apply the same logic to all routes instead of being biased for one over the others.No one is against true criticism(well maybe Fake-kun), its the bullshit ones that turn us into porcupines. |
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BotatoPriest said: CookingPriest said: Pretty sure Fake would agree with you completely if you apply the same logic to all routes instead of being biased for one over the others.No one is against true criticism(well maybe Fake-kun), its the bullshit ones that turn us into porcupines. Not talking about the routes, just about his arguments that ALL criticisms do not matter because there are silly ones (remember monologue wars?) |
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RinArcher said: BotatoPriest said: Pretty sure Fake would agree with you completely if you apply the same logic to all routes instead of being biased for one over the others. But HF is Rin's and Illya's route you know, nothing biased about it. You forgot HF is also Kirei route |
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DaveSama said: RinArcher said: But HF is Rin's and Illya's route you know, nothing biased about it. You forgot HF is also Kirei route I thought all three Fate routes were Shirou's routes |
Grey-Zone said: CorePriest said: I am not feeling attacked when someone makes constructive criticism. It's the dumb complaints, that irritate me. Like saying FZ is better written than FSN because in FSN Ilya calls Shirou "onii-chan". Yes, those complains about "Onii-chan" and "Senpai" are indeed annoying. Is she going to call Archer "Oniichan" or not? |
CorePriest said: i think i just read the thread you were talking about....holy shit i think my brain meltedAurioch said: I refuse to tell you.? Now I'm interested... which thread? :O Just go to the Fate/Zero subforum. I'm sure you'll find the thread. And that dumb user I was referring to. Grey-Zone said: Yes, those complains about "Onii-chan" and "Senpai" are indeed annoying. I'm sure they also complain about Rin calling her father "otou-sama" and Sakura calling Taiga "sensei". What, they don't? |
CookingPriest said: I dont even know what that means.BotatoPriest said: Pretty sure Fake would agree with you completely if you apply the same logic to all routes instead of being biased for one over the others. Not talking about the routes, just about his arguments that ALL criticisms do not matter because there are silly ones (remember monologue wars?) You think that viewers finding problems with the motives and thought process of the characters is legit criticism for the lack of monologues ONLY BECAUSE it reinforces your argument.What you intentionally ignore is that they ignore and fail to notice EVERYTHING ELSE as well.That makes your argument invalid.It's not a problem of missing monologues, it is a problem with how much they can use their brain, how much they can pay attention and how biased they are. And please the only criticisms you agree with are the ones that match yours(bashing FZ to make FSN look better ,bashing Kajiura,bashing Urobuchi for the story of FZ although you were one of those of us who kept telling everyone that Nasu was guiding him etc). |
ssjokgDec 4, 2014 3:06 AM
Aurioch said: InsertPriestHere said: Oh God. That thread. Just don't even bring it up. ? Now I'm interested... which thread? :O You're better off not knowing, trust me. This is the stuff people get brain cancer from. Well.....If you must know, go to the F/Z board (not second season) and the thread "Why is Fate/Zero so much different from Fate/Stay Night", especially from page 3 or so with Wolfteamhacks/glaurungX. And who can forget Wakamehead and the "F/Z is shitty" argument? |
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RinArcher said: TBH, most people don't even know at this point Shirou is growing to become more like Archer, and they can only notice auxiliary details like "look at that Senpai spamming character, or that girl who keeps saying Onii-chan." Or "Oh my god, those kids are using up all their command seals! Why can't they be like Kiritsugu in F/Z?!" I genuinely want to see how many people call Archers reveal an asspull or don't even see it coming with how many hints episode 12 will give them. That is called watching but not seeing.They are dumb. Implying that there isn't a dozen of hints till now. |
ssjokgDec 4, 2014 3:33 AM
RinArcher said: TBH, most people don't even know at this point Shirou is growing to become more like Archer, and they can only notice auxiliary details like "look at that Senpai spamming character, or that girl who keeps saying Onii-chan." Or "Oh my god, those kids are using up all their command seals! Why can't they be like Kiritsugu in F/Z?!" I genuinely want to see how many people call Archers reveal an asspull or don't even see it coming with how many hints episode 12 will give them. Isn't that more because some of those people are stupid, and they don't know how to pay attention to the hints? I mean they're pretty blatantly obvious. Even me with my ADHD catches on to them, it shouldn't be that hard for someone who actually pays attention. |
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Kamipriest said: RinArcher said: TBH, most people don't even know at this point Shirou is growing to become more like Archer, and they can only notice auxiliary details like "look at that Senpai spamming character, or that girl who keeps saying Onii-chan." Or "Oh my god, those kids are using up all their command seals! Why can't they be like Kiritsugu in F/Z?!" I genuinely want to see how many people call Archers reveal an asspull or don't even see it coming with how many hints episode 12 will give them. Isn't that more because some of those people are stupid, and they don't know how to pay attention to the hints? I mean they're pretty blatantly obvious. Even me with my ADHD catches on to them, it shouldn't be that hard for someone who actually pays attention. Going by neogaf argumentation "sure there are things that would be interpreted at hints of PTSD, but that does not matter since he is generic shonen character so its not true" |
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CookingPriest said: "sure there are things that would be interpreted at hints of PTSD, but that does not matter since he is generic shonen character so its not true" Sounds legit. |
InsertPriestHere said: Well.....If you must know, go to the F/Z board (not second season) and the thread "Why is Fate/Zero so much different from Fate/Stay Night", especially from page 3 or so with Wolfteamhacks/glaurungX. And who can forget Wakamehead and the "F/Z is shitty" argument? Oh, that? I went through it and deployed mental Rho Aius as a defense against cancer... RinArcher said: TBH, most people don't even know at this point Shirou is growing to become more like Archer, and they can only notice auxiliary details like "look at that Senpai spamming character, or that girl who keeps saying Onii-chan." Or "Oh my god, those kids are using up all their command seals! Why can't they be like Kiritsugu in F/Z?!" They probably also forgot that Tokiomi used Command Spell to stop Gilgamesh from using Gate of Babylong, and Kayneth used his own to force Diarmud to attack Saber then recalled that order... But that's completely fine because they're adults and Shirou and Rin are stupid kids, rajt? |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
WrongPriest said: They knew that Rider was the cause of "weird eye thing" so summoning Saber makes sense even if there were Skeletons.To be honest they could have made the situation surrounding the use of Shirou's second command seal look more dire. In hindsight it was the right move but they could have added like 5+ Skellingtons. caperock said: Subjective.So far, I have't found a single character I like in this show, even Saber seems off compared to FZ - she acts differently. Saber acts EXACTLY like she did when she was with Iri.IN FSN there is no Kiritsugu or Iskandar to make her be on edge every time she thinks about them. |
| It's not a sequel it's a prequel, fate/zero was meant to be watched after not before |
caperock said: I really don't think i'd be watching this show it wasn't a sequel to F/Z . That it's the problem since F/Z It's a complementary material of FSN, and FSN isn't a sequel of Zero. |
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| I wonder if Archer would be good if he was loud and obnoxious enough like Iskandar... |
WrongPriest said: Well, he will later proceed to shit on all the honor and pride bullshit F/Z kept throwing at you so maybe they won't like him for long.FakePriest said: Please, Archer is one of the only reasons the plebeians hang on to this show. He's the fucking man.I wonder if Archer would be good if he was loud and obnoxious enough like Iskandar... Unless they disliked the honor and pride stuff, then he becomes a true hero for them. |
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WrongPriest said: I wanna see if we can get to 6 people all answering the same question. Anyone else wanna give it a shot? Lancer *fan favourite* =3 |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: RinArcher said: Why do you think people like Kiritsugu? Because he's a nice guy and he helps everyone out? Pfft. I thought Saberfags hated Kiritsugu.........? Well i like Kiritsugu, but i really didn't like the way he killed Diramuid/Lancer.......don't care about Kanneyth too much. Wut? I love Kerry. He's a good character in depth. Seriously, you think we're that shallow that we would hate on a good character because he did something to our waifu~? Honestly~? I must say, that's retarded. Plus, Kerry's reason is justified, and she doesn't know but that's what she wanted to begin with ~.~ |
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caperock said: If it wasn't a sequel to F/Z (which it hardly seems it is). Because it isn't. |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: mirakura said: Wut? I love Kerry. He's a good character in depth. Seriously, you think we're that shallow that we would hate on a good character because he did something to our waifu~? Honestly~? I must say, that's retarded. Plus, Kerry's reason is justified, and she doesn't know but that's what she wanted to begin with ~.~ Sorry i should have said DEENSaberFags............. Apology accepted, but, considering you have no proof of that, why state it in the first place? It's like it's purposeful trolling... |
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caperock said: You know I would love for people to explain their opinions.Kiristugu was a decent* tragic anti hero. It just was so enjoyable to see him fail so miserably at the end. *Decent for the low standards of anime. Otherwise it looks like I just attack people. |
| So your friend is a Saber fag... So how come that between my irl friends and I, it's I that is the closest to aSaber fag? |
| Saberfags DO hate Kerry. mira is just unique in wanting Seiba to suffer and getting off on it. |
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