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| No more please... I need Mayushi to stay alive... It's becoming a (more) tragical endless eight, isn't it ? |
| she died 3x...so depressing :/ oh and maybe he can double dip the time leap...use it once and then use it again? |
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| Mwuauauauahhaahaha. I had a good laugh at the last scene lol. Gosh didn't see that coming. Now things are getting very interesting. It seems the time leap does have a limit to how far back it can send a person just like the D mail. I think it was like 1 week for D-Mails, then probably like 3 hours for time leap? Anyway I knew Suzuha would kick ass. A longer physical fight scene between her and Moeka would be so cool lol. Okarin needs to stop keeping information for himself and tell the others, couldn't be that hard. More minds are better than one wtf. |
| Was I the only one who was actually -laughing- after second time Mayushi was killed? |
| While I am not a mayushii fanboy, I start to feel Okarin's pain. I mean... Hell, three times? And that last one - How much more can someone take before they get a mental breakdown? Well, at least she didn't get jelly-fied or something, still better dying than ending up that way. |
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| That scene with the young Okarin and Mayushii was what I wanted to see, so cute. Baito senshi is indeed a warrior, how she ninja'd them all. I wonder if we'll get to see ten more episodes of saving Mayushii or that he'll try something else. Homurokarin. |
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taro_sado said: It seems the time leap does have a limit to how far back it can send a person just like the D mail. I think it was like 1 week for D-Mails, then probably like 3 hours for time leap? In the previous episode, Makise told about 48 hours limit for the time jump... It's terrible to see Mayshi dying over and over and over... She didn't deserve this... And Nae... Oh my God! I mean, I know that it was an accident, but after her Higurashi-face... Is it okay to be terrified by 9-year old girl?.. |
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| It's inevitable. She has to die. You can't stop someone's death. One way or another they will die. These two methods of time traveling are somewhat the same, but the results are way different. |
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| When did s;g become South Park? Thanks for the laughs, Nae. As expected from Mr. Braun's flesh and blood. |
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13man18 said: It's inevitable. She has to die. You can't stop someone's death. One way or another they will die. These two methods of time traveling are somewhat the same, but the results are way different. Well, but he did save Makise in the beginning, so it must be possible... just hard, very hard... |
Never saw no miracle of science, that didn't go from a blessing to a curse Never saw no military solution, that didn't end up as something worse |
| The Reason that Okarin doesn't want to tell the others becuase he don't want them to get involved with this, but I think SERN want Mayuri dead after all. Okarin is afraid the whole world will changed once more again that's why he don't want to used it. D-Mail is dangerous. Time Leap will be more effect but can he save Mayuri from death, fate can be so cruel sometimes. |
Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho |
koolvid said: It's better you go by what he said, so you won't go into shock after the series Emmm... SPOILER! |
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| I can't bear to watch Mayuri die every time. This is just too sad. |
| imo many ppl didnt get the dmail thing. If you use dmail the time line where mayuri is dead will still exist but a new time line will be created where she doesnt die and oakrins concious will be in the world where she isnt dead. Simply put with dmail everything will only change for okrain and not for the others. And in the former episodes in okrains dream mayuri said something about the original mayuri and okarin in all the existant parallel words. That could be somehow related why you cant save mayuri in that world.... |
| It seems like Mayuri has to die no matter what. I truly feel sorry for Okabe. Another thing I did not like was the lack of Kurisu, so hopefully she shows up more the next episode. And hopefully Okabe can stop Mayuri's death, but it doesn't seem like its gonna happen. |
I am a sucker for romance!!!! ] |
Yes! My favorite scene got animated as follows, it was a very satisfying scene considering what Suzuha went through to get there. About the Original time line/beginning, I was so pissed off at fucking Moeka to point her gun towards Okabe while he is mourning the death of Mayuri and of all things the bitch is about to pull the trigger. I shall never forget the expression of Okabe in the spoiler Pretty much from the looks of the overview all the bad guys are KO except Moeka. Seeing how amazing and serious Suzuha's eyes are here I can't believe Moeka dodged just like that the shot from Suzuha's gun shot in the spoiler  FUCK YOU MOEKA AGAIN! DAMN IT! Got to be strong! Must hope in the time leap. Holy shit Mayuri! T_T Ah fucking Moeka again. That bitch never stops pissing me off. About Mayuri's past, I loved it! I was very moved emotionally, especially with that hug from Okabe in the spoiler About first time line, the very first time Okabe came back not really much changed but that time glass is still around. There is a listening device there so if it does get broken SERN agents may come in. Okabe from the start looks damn angry/serious and that is a nice aspect to see of him. Makise realizing finally here that it could be time travel related . The flashbacks of Okabe were nicely done. I think that Okabe had a way too serious attitude towards Ruka in the spoiler Guess that did not help since multiple SERN spies are coming in and that includes one pinning down Okabe. That unfortunately leads Mayuri helpless and thus she gets killed in the spoiler About Time Line 2, the second time Okabe goes back in time the transition is much more clear in the spoiler First of all the hand holding of Okabe x Mayuri in the spoiler People! We have to stay strong! Mayuri may die a lot but that's only one world line! We must be strong for Mayuri and have the ultimate hope that she will be alright somehow. I shall write more later but we need to be strong. For Mayuri to get better. Oosran said: Somehow I find that implausible.Edit: I'm so going to re-watch this episode every day until the next episode is out. |
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Oldy said: imo many ppl didnt get the dmail thing. If you use dmail the time line where mayuri is dead will still exist but a new time line will be created where she doesnt die and oakrins concious will be in the world where she isnt dead. Simply put with dmail everything will only change for okrain and not for the others. And in the former episodes in okrains dream mayuri said something about the original mayuri and okarin in all the existant parallel words. That could be somehow related why you cant save mayuri in that world.... World lines is concept for all Time travels in Steins;Gate. I think. I thought about that when i watched the episode. For Okarin in other World Line it won't change either. There is one Okarin - the main character. His consciousness travels through world lines, not his body. In other world line from where Okarin, the main charcter, came there different consciousness replaces the original. I think. I hope I succeed to express my thougts clearly. |
| actually, as time leap sends memories to "past", doesn't it create another timeline? I mean, it's not like d-mail. i don't think that, when using time leap, okabe's consciousness travels the exact same way as when d-mail is used. i think it's just a different okabe in the past (and in a different timeline as well) that receives memories from the future? which makes him a copy of the okabe from the future. |
| Seeing Mayuri die over and over is killing me. All my rage. |
| He probably just punched her in the face... |
Never saw no miracle of science, that didn't go from a blessing to a curse Never saw no military solution, that didn't end up as something worse |
Naelok said: He needs to use a D-mail. If he uses a D-Mail she still end up dying in this worldline and it will be out of his hands. As it is he's actually leaping back to the exact same worldline instead of entering another. |
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| and no one is mentioning suzuha. it seems she knows a lot of stuff and it seems she knew about the shooting before it happened - she ran away, but didn't tell anyone anything. she wanted to - but she knew she couldn't do anything to save them perhaps? so maybe suzuha time leaped as well ? she was extremely wary of kurisu from the beginning n stuff... |
| Suzuha is from the future, she's less than subtle with her hints of it through the entire series thus far. |
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BL2W said: Honestly, I have yet to find another show that gets my heart pounding as much as this one. It feels like I'm going to have a flipping heart attack~! Totally agree. last time i shat brix like this was when I watched 12th episode of fifth series of Doctor Who. but i haven't such experience with anime yet. Well, till now. :3 |
| So, why is the show being so mean to me?? I just can't see her dying anymore. The little Okarin and Mayushii moments (the hostage thing was just so cute!! *w* ♥) makes it more harder to watch both the characters. One dies and the other sees her die. It's just too painful ;____ ; So the time leap does not produce a different timeline I am guessing. Hence, Mayuri dying continuously. [?????] Why doesn't Okarin pay attention to Suzuha? He needs her aid to save her. And i don't think Okarin was the one to save Christina in the 1st episode. Of course, it's still a guess. AlexTrusk said: Yes if she looks like that & kids are more creepier when they are ghosts, zombies (like in Pet Cemetery *shivers*, or crazy.Is it okay to be terrified by 9-year old girl?.. And yes, yet another excellent episode. 2nd show this season to get a 10/10 with it's current condition. |
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hikaricore said: Naelok said: He needs to use a D-mail. If he uses a D-Mail she still end up dying in this worldline and it will be out of his hands. As it is he's actually leaping back to the exact same worldline instead of entering another. That is till the moment he changes something there. And its not exactly "Same' world line. Its an identical world-line. the moment he changes something, it becomes a new one, existing parallel. Its exact same as d-mail except that this sends copy of consciousness. |
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Fai said: hikaricore said: Naelok said: He needs to use a D-mail. If he uses a D-Mail she still end up dying in this worldline and it will be out of his hands. As it is he's actually leaping back to the exact same worldline instead of entering another. That is till the moment he changes something there. And its not exactly "Same' world line. Its an identical world-line. the moment he changes something, it becomes a new one, existing parallel. Its exact same as d-mail except that this sends copy of consciousness. Unlike D-Mail the user is experiencing a normal flow of events with time leaping as such it's the same world line. You could argue that every choice you make changes the world line, but this is all natural and unseen to the person involved. I don't think it really qualifies in that case. |
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hikaricore said: Fai said: hikaricore said: Naelok said: He needs to use a D-mail. If he uses a D-Mail she still end up dying in this worldline and it will be out of his hands. As it is he's actually leaping back to the exact same worldline instead of entering another. That is till the moment he changes something there. And its not exactly "Same' world line. Its an identical world-line. the moment he changes something, it becomes a new one, existing parallel. Its exact same as d-mail except that this sends copy of consciousness. Unlike D-Mail the user is experiencing a normal flow of events with time leaping as such it's the same world line. You could argue that every choice you make changes the world line, but this is all natural and unseen to the person involved. I don't think it really qualifies in that case. It qualifies on quantum level. Its identical world line, but its not the same world-line, with that worldline still remaining due to the fact that otherwise is impossible due to causality paradox :) |
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| Okay the fourth time he time leaped Okarin should place his foot so Nae would trip and die instead of Mayushii XDD or maybe just stay at the back before the train arrives. And then a SERN member is inside there... |
Fai said: hikaricore said: Fai said: hikaricore said: Naelok said: He needs to use a D-mail. If he uses a D-Mail she still end up dying in this worldline and it will be out of his hands. As it is he's actually leaping back to the exact same worldline instead of entering another. That is till the moment he changes something there. And its not exactly "Same' world line. Its an identical world-line. the moment he changes something, it becomes a new one, existing parallel. Its exact same as d-mail except that this sends copy of consciousness. Unlike D-Mail the user is experiencing a normal flow of events with time leaping as such it's the same world line. You could argue that every choice you make changes the world line, but this is all natural and unseen to the person involved. I don't think it really qualifies in that case. It qualifies on quantum level. Its identical world line, but its not the same world-line, with that worldline still remaining due to the fact that otherwise is impossible due to causality paradox :) Up until the point of any change it's still the same worldline, we both agree on this. What I'm saying is that since the original timeline never actually occurred any worldlines it created don't exist. Since he is leaping back instead of sending a d-mail and interacting with events physically the only world lines being created are from his interactions and those of others IE natural changes to the world line. So basically it's the same world line because the one he came from never existed in the first place, while with d-mail he is injected into another worldline entirely. Additionally I think we're both way overthinking this and wtf Commie just released a v3. |
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| Endless 8 all i have to say but in a good/sad way |
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hikaricore said: Fai said: hikaricore said: Fai said: hikaricore said: Naelok said: He needs to use a D-mail. If he uses a D-Mail she still end up dying in this worldline and it will be out of his hands. As it is he's actually leaping back to the exact same worldline instead of entering another. That is till the moment he changes something there. And its not exactly "Same' world line. Its an identical world-line. the moment he changes something, it becomes a new one, existing parallel. Its exact same as d-mail except that this sends copy of consciousness. Unlike D-Mail the user is experiencing a normal flow of events with time leaping as such it's the same world line. You could argue that every choice you make changes the world line, but this is all natural and unseen to the person involved. I don't think it really qualifies in that case. It qualifies on quantum level. Its identical world line, but its not the same world-line, with that worldline still remaining due to the fact that otherwise is impossible due to causality paradox :) Up until the point of any change it's still the same worldline, we both agree on this. What I'm saying is that since the original timeline never actually occurred any worldlines it created don't exist. Since he is leaping back instead of sending a d-mail and interacting with events physically the only world lines being created are from his interactions and those of others IE natural changes to the world line. So basically it's the same world line because the one he came from never existed in the first place, while with d-mail he is injected into another worldline entirely. Additionally I think we're both way overthinking this and wtf Commie just released a v3. tottally agree with this thats the way i understood it aswell |
hikaricore said: Fai said: hikaricore said: Fai said: hikaricore said: Naelok said: He needs to use a D-mail. If he uses a D-Mail she still end up dying in this worldline and it will be out of his hands. As it is he's actually leaping back to the exact same worldline instead of entering another. That is till the moment he changes something there. And its not exactly "Same' world line. Its an identical world-line. the moment he changes something, it becomes a new one, existing parallel. Its exact same as d-mail except that this sends copy of consciousness. Unlike D-Mail the user is experiencing a normal flow of events with time leaping as such it's the same world line. You could argue that every choice you make changes the world line, but this is all natural and unseen to the person involved. I don't think it really qualifies in that case. It qualifies on quantum level. Its identical world line, but its not the same world-line, with that worldline still remaining due to the fact that otherwise is impossible due to causality paradox :) Up until the point of any change it's still the same worldline, we both agree on this. What I'm saying is that since the original timeline never actually occurred any worldlines it created don't exist. Since he is leaping back instead of sending a d-mail and interacting with events physically the only world lines being created are from his interactions and those of others IE natural changes to the world line. So basically it's the same world line because the one he came from never existed in the first place, while with d-mail he is injected into another worldline entirely. Additionally I think we're both way overthinking this and wtf Commie just released a v3. It is not the same. IF its not? Hello causality paradox. If some of previous changes do not exist? Hello causality paradox. If his starter origin did not exist? Hello causality paradox. Hence its the same as D-mail, except he himself can do stuff thus has more control. |
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| This just keeps getting better and better. So far, if this anime stays as epic as it is, it will be my favorite by far. NICE episode. It kept zooming in so you could see a strange guy with a case. I thought it was a SERN guy or something.XD |
| That lil girl must hit like a truck to knock a older girl holding hands with another guy right into the subway. Real mature. |
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cr4sian_phil said: I don't think my heart can handle Mayuri dying again. Seriously me too, throughout this whole episode my heart kept pounding because I was so scared if Mayuri was going to die. ~This is also the most I've ever been scared watching a show. |
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| Mayuri can't help dying, huh? Also, I'm guessing Suzuha has some type of military background judging by how she kicked ass. |
| T_T so sad anime... the typical time leap. No matter what time or world you go still the death nears at similar time! |
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| Its times like this that okarin reminds how fucking stupid he is when he doesn't think. He keeps trying do this "I will save everyone by myself" plan that fails each time. First, AS SOON as he time jumps, tell everybody the truth immediately, that gives everyone 3 hours to plan something, but don't use any electronics as they could be tapped, talk in person. Second, GET THE FUCK AWAY from Mayuri....She's fucking Dying cause she's near you. Tell her to meet you somewhere MILES away from here, and lead her off to somewhere safe. Third, Would you fucking tell Suzuha what the fuck is going on! Her knowing everything 3 hours early is EXCELLENT time for her to plan some shit. If she can get herself out of danger in 3 mins berfore the shit went down, imagine what she can do with 3 fucking hours. Okarin, start using your fucking head instead of panicking. |
| I just love watching poor little tuturu~ die over and over again. :| Thanks, Steins;Gate. |
| I think it might be impossible to save Mayuri because the world line didn't change. So no matter what, she'll get killed. Well, that's what I think based on the Novikov self-consistency principle. "No action the traveler takes to affect or change history can ever succeed, as some form of "bad luck" or coincidence always prevents the outcome. In effect, the traveler cannot change history. Often in fiction, the time traveler does not merely fail to prevent the actions, but in fact precipitate them usually by accident." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_paradox |
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