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Nov 6, 2023 6:29 PM
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Weekly Youhei Azakami (and Ron) appreciation post. Daba-doobie-doo-daba-debi-dub-baya!



Yet another charming goofball, Mofu Usaki, has been added to the cast! One who has caught onto Ron's peculiar ability as well... Makes sense when she has spent so long trying to prove such things don't exist.
Nov 6, 2023 8:09 PM

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That was interesting. I am enjoying the doctor character that was shown in the ED, but ... how is she a surgeon if she's such a klutz?? Hmmm. Hope to see more of her.

Nov 6, 2023 11:03 PM
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The episode overall is enjoyable .. I really liked the character of the surgeon. She may appear in the upcoming episodes ..

The only thing that bothered me was how he stabbed him with a pen while there was a large crowd around him. It was possible to plan a trick, such as cutting off the electricity, for example, or distracting the crowd so that he could do this action instead of using a superficial event.
Nov 7, 2023 12:31 AM

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Fact that Ron doesn't believe in psychic powers and yet his very words can drive people to suicide really make me wonder. Ron must've seen a risk to having Toto help him solve cases. Heck he almost fell off the building in the first episode. Good thing Mofu is such a klutz.

Speaking of Mofu, surprised the girl from the ED has appeared. Wonder if she'll be a reoccurring character. Maybe she can fix what's wrong with Ron.

On another note, I just noticed Ron's last name is on the building he lives in. Was wondering how he can afford anything considering he's been shut in for so long. Wonder what his parents do for living. Also if they ever thought to get him help with this abnormality.
@hai_X_is He owns the building, and rents the other apartments.
Was said by him in the first episode while mentioning some things the tenants gave him in the past.
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Nov 7, 2023 3:27 AM

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The absolute audacity of the 2 of them to sit there and talk about psychic powers not existing, meanwhile Ron's there with his magic suicide eye HAHAHAHA
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Nov 7, 2023 5:58 AM

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Not a bad episode, though its mystery parody(?) elements were a bit too on the nose. Running the movement of that victim through a supposed... "biological motion app"(lol?) was ridiculous, since the man had a... fracking face.

She could have trivially matched his face from that supposed psychic's previous shows in seconds. If that was a parody element it was not a funny one. It was also obvious that guy was a plant long before it was disclosed.

As for that "genius neuro-surgeon" (who cannot do proper bandages, i.e. kindergarten medicine) let's just say that excessive clumsiness is an over-used trope I've long grown tired of. Does it really need to be a thing in nearly every anime?
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The absolute audacity of the 2 of them to sit there and talk about psychic powers not existing, meanwhile Ron's there with his magic suicide eye HAHAHAHA
@BurningSpirit, eliminate "psychic powers" from your thinking and consider something more realistic to explain Ron's "magic suicide eyes".
Nov 7, 2023 6:37 AM

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I assume Mofu is only clumsy from tiredness and lack of focus so it is suggested she is coordinated only during surgery i presume. Hard to picture that.


Sharpedon said:
Not a bad episode, though its mystery parody(?) elements were a bit too on the nose. Running the movement of that victim through a supposed... "biological motion app"(lol?) was ridiculous, since the man had a... fracking face.

They just didnt directly mention he wears a disguise each time he is on so it is a different face. Obviously any regular viewer would notice it is the same guy if he wasnt disguised.
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Nov 7, 2023 7:26 AM
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The main flaw of this episode is that the finishing move (killing action) was during a time when Dr. Mofu and many others would be observing the victim. The whole episode was going fine for me until it was revealed that he stabbed the victim's nape with the pen needle after the broadcast got suspended. Unless he can move his arm faster than mach 20, it's impossible for human eyes to miss it.

2nd major dissatisfaction/confusion I have about this eps is, when Toto got "stabbed" by what he thought was the needle. It's psychologically impossible to trick yourself into believing you felt a needle tip when you get contacted by the tip of a thick marker. 1 is sharp, thin and induces pain as it penetrates the innervated subcutaneous layers. The other is literally a blunt, thick, wet surface that lacks the pressure to stimulate any nociceptors. I've also considered the effects of adrenaline, as Toto most likely had adrenaline rushing through his vessels at that moment. Although adrenaline numbs pain receptors, it does not compromise any intellectual function. Toto is not mentally clumsy enough to mistake a marker pen mark for the opening of a needle wound. As such, it makes 0 sense.

I'm slowly being convinced that the author didn't prioritise logic when writing. I'm watching on in hopes of seeing 1 eps displaying pure logic when it comes to the case. I don't mind ironic comedic effects like Dr. Mofu being a clumsy surgeon. However, I do value logic when it comes to the cases and causes of death; it's a detective anime after all
Nov 7, 2023 5:32 PM

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Ironically, my thought process during the TV segment was "What did this card show? Sleep?" before my subtitles told me it was death.

So, after the final scene, I finally get why people ship Toto X Ron. That was also about the only good scene in the entire episode.

Everything else was episodic crime and comedy as usual, but much worse than usual.

The whole "Magic isn't real, said the wizard" stuff was already one out of two main flaws in Death Mount Death Play and it's no better here. They did hint that Mofu noticed it, but that doesn't make it any better.

And as mentioned above by others, today's case had some major flaws in terms of logic and was incredibly boring.

I'll give this show one last chance next week, but by the current trend I expect to drop it afterwards.
Nov 7, 2023 5:37 PM

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@hai_X_is He owns the building, and rents the other apartments.
Was said by him in the first episode while mentioning some things the tenants gave him in the past.

Ah gotcha. That makes sense. Thank you for the clarification. Wonder how much money or influence he has.
Nov 7, 2023 6:47 PM

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I'm all in for logic but please hear me out...

The main flaw of this episode is that the finishing move (killing action) was during a time when Dr. Mofu and many others would be observing the victim. The whole episode was going fine for me until it was revealed that he stabbed the victim's nape with the pen needle after the broadcast got suspended. Unless he can move his arm faster than mach 20, it's impossible for human eyes to miss it.


It's not wrong that it must have been difficult and there was some luck ivolved for him to not get caught stabbing the victim's neck. But let's consider the fact that the victim still played along, thinking it was all part of the show and he was pretending to sleep (well if I'd need to point something out it would be him being naive enough to think Torage would still willingly work with him after he threatened him). But I think the problem here is that the manga describes it better:

- the victim was still wearing headphones blocking outside sounds, thinking he was pretending to sleep so he didn't know everyone was thinking he would have died and probably waited for a sign he could stop (interestingly enough when Dr. Mofu was asked to take his position after the first sign they told her to stop which she did despite the headphones which wasn't in the manga. So I blame it on the anime for making that mistake and failing to explain it entirely).

- Victim got stabbed with a needle AFTER broadcasting was interrupted. Remember Torage was still the one checking his pulse and LYING so everyone thought he was already death which caused a commotion (and naturally so). So there must have been some time until Dr. Mofu reached him to perform CPR. Torage could have pretended to adjust the victim's body posture and then using the needle (I kind of wished they would have written it that way to make my point more valid). It could be argued it's still too obvious using a pen but then it's a fact that often when crimes happen and there are eye-witnesses they describe entirely different scenarios or even culprits because in a situation like this thinking rationally and noticing minor details is difficult for most people. Plus Torage already publicly "killed" him so at that time he wasn't the focus of attention.

- the reason the victim was groaning during Dr. Mofu's massage was that the poison started to affect his body. I'm not sure what poison it was but it was probably so quick it wasn't even possible for the victim to point out who did it (aside from the fact Torage took it on him and his powers).

2nd major dissatisfaction/confusion I have about this eps is, when Toto got "stabbed" by what he thought was the needle. It's psychologically impossible to trick yourself into believing you felt a needle tip when you get contacted by the tip of a thick marker. 1 is sharp, thin and induces pain as it penetrates the innervated subcutaneous layers. The other is literally a blunt, thick, wet surface that lacks the pressure to stimulate any nociceptors. I've also considered the effects of adrenaline, as Toto most likely had adrenaline rushing through his vessels at that moment. Although adrenaline numbs pain receptors, it does not compromise any intellectual function. Toto is not mentally clumsy enough to mistake a marker pen mark for the opening of a needle wound. As such, it makes 0 sense.


This one is kind of true :D. Except for... No, I actually don't have an explanation for it. I looked up the chapter in the manga and there it's more like Toto doesn't feel pain from a sting but from snatching it from Torage, yet he thinks it hit him. It got me confused the first time too because I felt like how can you mistake a mark from a pen with a prick of a needle? The only possible explanation would be psychological one caused by a shock (the possibility of being pricked by a poisened needle. Like when we hit an onject with our arm or feet and say "Ouch" even though it didn't hurt and we are fully aware of it but our brain tells us we touched it - not to mistake for when we actually do and it hurts like hell).

I'm slowly being convinced that the author didn't prioritise logic when writing. I'm watching on in hopes of seeing 1 eps displaying pure logic when it comes to the case. I don't mind ironic comedic effects like Dr. Mofu being a clumsy surgeon. However, I do value logic when it comes to the cases and causes of death; it's a detective anime after all


As much as I value logic I don't think it's what this series or the writer is focusing on (and I've noticed it from some readers of the manga expecting perfect logic). Some of these cases make even less sense so I'd say at least in this case they can be explained. Maybe the writer could have done a better job in doing so so I'd not need to defend him/her. But looking for pure logic in a series with a detective pressuring victims to kill themselves with this kind of ability... At least I'm not doing it because based o logic a detective like Ron wouldn't exist. But I totally get your point that at least the cases should make sense and more than this... should be logical and could play out like this. Then again these cases need to be remarkable. Personally I rarely come across criminal cases (at least not fictional ones) that are completely logic and I think the reason for that is that a writer can do as much research as she or he wants... there will always be some kind of flaw (same as there is no perfect crime without leaving any traces even in real life). They can never be sure if their method works bcause they would need to try it and I'm pretty sure most writers don't want to go this far for their work of fiction.

I'm also a writer and while I'm not focusing on crime stories with bunch of cases, most of my books have at least aspects of them. I think the most important is to eliminate issues readers could have right from the start and avoid them and if not possible try to find the reasons/explanations why it could still work (including them already). Even if they sound far-fetched some readers might take them (while others won't). I feel like that's the main issue with this series.

And like I said... I've started to read the manga and there are cases even more absurd. So I feel like I can defend this one because it's actually good and I can see what the writer was thinking creating it. But maybe that's because I'm a writer too. Also I'm not a fan of writers having to explain their work outside of it because I think it should be mostly self-explanatory so I think that's the main flaw here, not the lack of logic (at least for me personally).
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Nov 7, 2023 8:11 PM

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This case, while still interesting, was not as exciting to dissect what happened as previous cases. I thought maybe the marker had an opening to be used as a blow dart or something and not that the psychic guy injected the back of his neck while checking on him.

Regarding Ron's hypnosis thing with his eye, I wonder if Mofu can do anything about that as it really is an issue to say the least. Also, what happened to the purple haired guy that wanted Ron's help? I'm assuming he will reappear at some point.
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Hi! Thanks for your response, I appreciate your input.

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- Victim got stabbed with a needle AFTER broadcasting was interrupted. Remember Torage was still the one checking his pulse and LYING so everyone thought he was already death which caused a commotion (and naturally so). So there must have been some time until Dr. Mofu reached him to perform CPR. Torage could have pretended to adjust the victim's body posture and then using the needle (I kind of wished they would have written it that way to make my point more valid). It could be argued it's still too obvious using a pen but then it's a fact that often when crimes happen and there are eye-witnesses they describe entirely different scenarios or even culprits because in a situation like this thinking rationally and noticing minor details is difficult for most people. Plus Torage already publicly "killed" him so at that time he wasn't the focus of attention.


I'm well aware why the mole didn't get up, and that he didn't hear the commotion. I also know he was waiting for a sign to stop, he can't be sleeping there forever. Unfortunately, I don't think my confusion is addressed. I believe you have made some assumptions.
The commotion only involved verbal uproars. With the broadcast cut off, directors & host wouldn't let audience run amok, nor would the audience crowd around the corpse because they know corpses shouldn't be tampered with (they aren't kids who don't know better). It's not like someone armed has appeared.

Therefore, "there must have been some time until Dr. Mofu reached him to perform CPR" is an assumption. Dr. Mofu would have rushed to the "corpse" to verify the truth because she's signed an oath to save lives (we can see how passionate she is from her backstory). Being a revered surgeon, she wouldn't take the psychic's words at face value. Dr. Mofu is also extremely observant (as expected of an esteemed neurosurgeon) who has caught signs of the mechanisms of Ron's geass (she said "that wasn't merely threatening" in Japanese to Toto). Even if there's nobody observant or level-headed enough from the audience/backstage cast to catch the psychic making motions around a "corpse", Dr. Mofu would have caught it. If the author planned for Dr. Mofu to somehow miss that, it's overlooked plot armour as it's out of character (I'm aware she pretends to be clumsy/silly for a comedic trope).

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The only possible explanation would be psychological one caused by a shock (the possibility of being pricked by a poisened needle. Like when we hit an onject with our arm or feet and say "Ouch" even though it didn't hurt and we are fully aware of it but our brain tells us we touched it - not to mistake for when we actually do and it hurts like hell).


I mentioned that it's psychologically impossible because, there's no record of such cases in scientific literature (that I could find at least!). There have been experiments where we can be frightened by perceived harm to our body part (e.g. hand, finger), but it's been concluded (so far) that no amount of anticipation can produce that phantom pain long enough for Toto to believe he got stabbed by the needle for the next 20+ seconds. Long-term phantom pain is possible due to traumatic memories (e.g. of losing a limb) from the amygdala affecting the somatosensory cortex, which isn't the case with Toto. Oh well, of course I wouldn't expect manga authors to be well-versed in physiology and psychology 🤭 It's my fault, my understanding of such concepts has made me naturally see such events as illogical.

Wildflower3 said:
Also I'm not a fan of writers having to explain their work outside of it because I think it should be mostly self-explanatory so I think that's the main flaw here, not the lack of logic (at least for me personally).


I believe you and I are saying the same thing! 😉 If a work isn't self-explanatory or isn't able to be explained without using assumptions, I'm afraid, for the lack of better words, it is lacking logic.
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Hmmm...makes me wonder. Isn't Ron's 'mind control' ability psychic?
Nov 9, 2023 5:36 AM

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I thought it should at least be some new development in the old trick...but there was only that tired trick again. However, Mofu-chan is cute and the theme of this ep reminds me of...well I guess I shouldn't mention that here.
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Cool episode with a new character, and I like her voice. Feels familiar somehow. Will she be able to deduct the real nature of his eyes? will she be a heroine? hmm... 🥲
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Nov 10, 2023 2:30 AM

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Aww Ron actually looks so great in slim pants, not sports ones.
TBH, without all that comedy gags I would like the show much more.
Nov 10, 2023 10:09 PM

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He really almost got Toto killed this time lol
Mofu is so cute though~
Nov 10, 2023 11:27 PM

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Hmm a little predictable but it's fine
Nov 11, 2023 3:57 PM

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This pink hair girl is so pretty
Nov 12, 2023 10:31 PM

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Chrome appearance and her voice is also soft like Chrome is xD
Well, nothing special except for Mofu introduction and Toto almost dead if Mofu isn't clumsy xD And Ron eyes are creepy in this episode
Nov 13, 2023 5:20 PM

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our detective is starting to become a genius, ron didn't have to do much at all i think we can expect great things.
Nov 16, 2023 3:57 AM
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Interesting the new character, the wounded surgeon .... and clumsy !!!
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Nov 20, 2023 9:11 AM

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We need to stop this geass thing soon.. REALLY REALLY SOON, before it enters the cringe territory.

Also, when will we start getting cases which could be termed as a "mystery", the theme this series was advertised upon? Because for now, the cases are as exciting as Isshiki's character in this series.
Nov 20, 2023 7:46 PM

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Ron being fascinated by a TV, which once again, is the case of a live broadcast murder between a psychic and neurosurgeon, of which Usaki Mofu is quite the character. Of course, the psychic can attest his claims, and Usaki rebutts it, with the test subject staged to make the effect of the psychic seem true. And since this is a live broadcast, both Ron and Toto rush to the TV station...which Ron begins his usual facade goofing, and gives the impression that he's hiding his presence as much to give Toto the spotlight. But for a case of mental altercations, Usaki sure let the pressure get to her. But as usual, Toto will always have the trick ready.

The murder itself, which was broadcasted live, Toto wants to re-enact the situation, which went the same way as it did earlier, only adding the poison thereafter when the broadcast stopped. And the pen itself is a weapon of tool, which due to Ron's psychic sleuthing, Torage almost grazed himself, and Toto did find an ink mark, though that's just a regular felt pen from when Usaki's clumsiness hit Torage and passed him the normal pen instead of the poisoned needle pen.

The invitation to an observatory spikes some good time away from sleuthing...and black syrup is all that matters for Ron.
Nov 21, 2023 10:35 AM
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We finally meet the mysterious girl in the ED.

And it got gayer, let's go!
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The super detective by convenience didn't know what a television was... can this anime get any stupider or is that the limit?



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There is no such thing as psychic powers says the guy who can psychically tell people to go kill themselves.
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Honestly, I find it hilarious Toto took half the season to start noticing that he should've kept Ron from doing his magicky eye thing BEFORE he had the chance to do it. Ron always does his mojo after the case is cracked and t he criminal confesses, so it's fairly easy for Toto to predict when he needs to prevent Ron from talking at all.

But nopeee, took Toto nearly dying and Ron nearly falling into depression for them to actually take Ron's illness seriously smh
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We need to stop this geass thing soon.. REALLY REALLY SOON, before it enters the cringe territory.

Also, when will we start getting cases which could be termed as a "mystery", the theme this series was advertised upon? Because for now, the cases are as exciting as Isshiki's character in this series.
@Softhenic03 hahaha gosh this comment is real, i just laughed so hard cuz this is really true. I turn off my brain watching this cuz that's what i usually do with most animes, but i still manage to crack the case with pretty obvious 'plot twists'. Actually i got the criminals right the second sth suspicious happens, it really isn't that mysterious at all
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cover his mouth or something man
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This episode seems a bit easy for the duo of Toto and Kamoo to solve. Kamoo has the power of the psychic here against the guilty party.
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I'm still bewildered by the people who commit these murders. It's quite saddening that this also occurs in real life.
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no way ron got supernatural abilities now
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Oh so the purple-haired girl who sings the ending theme is a surgeon? I thought she was just an animated version of the singer xD
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I'm still bewildered by the people who commit these murders. It's quite saddening that this also occurs in real life.
@Sun_Chan yeh we need an irl Ron
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