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Sep 20, 2023 1:12 PM
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bro what the actual F*ck Gege ...
Now sukuna and Kenjaku vs the boys bro Sukuna should have died with Gojo don't give the kill to kashimo bruh.
Sep 20, 2023 1:27 PM
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10vely said:
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But let's be real and honest here. Mahoraga carried Sukuna's ass.

makes me wonder if sukuna would've won without megumis body. like, sukuna from a thousand years ago, would've he been able to do anything about the infinity? i dont think so! which makes this whole fight be about luck in getting the circumstances right, and not necessarily about POWER

Someone didn't read the chapter.
Sep 20, 2023 1:37 PM

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I see I'm not the only one for whom this chapter doesn't make sense. Just to be clear, I have absolutely no problem with Sukuna winning. We all expected that Gojo would have to lose or win but in a way that would make him unable to continue fighting (e.g. exhaustion), since it was necessary for the plot to move forward, but it was executed in the worst way possible. I'm well aware that Akutami hates Gojo, but any respect for readers requires treating your character, especially at a moment like this, with any respect.
1. From Sukuna's statement, it appears that he was simply able to copy the way Mahoraga broke through Gojos limitless. This is an asspull, there has never been a character in the manga who could copy an attack from another technique like that (apart from Yuta, of course). Also Sukuna said that “The target of the cursed technique was not Gojo Satoru. Space, Existence, the World, it expanded all the way until those things and cut.” which contradicts to what Gojo said in the fight against Jogo, that “infinity exists everywhere”
2. Sukuna's description indicates that his "new" slash is not stronger in terms of pure power, but has a higher chance of hitting. In this case, how come Gojo was able to tank the melavolent shrine (where his infinity was inactive) but died from a single slash in this case?
3. True, Gojo admitted that Sukuna is stronger than him. He was literally killed for god's sake (with an asspull but still killed), so what else could he say. What I don't understand is the statement that Sukuna didn’t go all out. This completely conflicts with... the entire fight... Sukuna, who (as the narrator himself said) felt nervous for the first time in 1000 years and had to use his strongest Shikigami, didn't go all out? Bullshit.
4. And of course killing Gojo offscreen, after 11 chapters of fighting. After the chapter where Gojo was declared the winner. I don't even want to talk about it further
I hope Gojo survives. I absolutely don't give a damn whether he's the strongest or not. There is no shame in being the 2nd strongest character. I'm just hoping that Gojo will do something more in this manga than being locked in prison realm for almost 3 years, fighting for 11 chapters straight and finally dying offscreen without achieving anything at all.
Sep 20, 2023 2:14 PM

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sukuna beat the fraud allegations in the end, even Gojo owns up to it
@tttriplesec How does he beat the fraud allegations? If mahoraga wasnt in the picture he would never learn to cut space like that lol. It's just bad writing at this point.
Sep 20, 2023 2:15 PM

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Ever since Gege said he wanted JJK to end soon he's been getting real lazy with his writing.

I don't mind Gojo dying. I do mind the way it was executed and presented. Offscreening Gojo is just a wild choice. And showing how it happened in the next chapter (which who knows if it'll be shown) won't fix how poorly it was storyboarded.
Sep 20, 2023 2:55 PM
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Yeah… of course I got spoiled. This shit was all over the internet. Fuck me!

I expected Gojo would lose somehow but from what I understand his death was anticlimactic. Gege’s a weird dude killing off the ultimate fan favorite like that. Wonder what he’s cooking now. It all seems doom and gloom.
Sep 20, 2023 2:56 PM

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Someone didn't read the chapter.

but did you read it?
Sep 20, 2023 2:56 PM

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I feel like Gege should have added at least one panel of gojo getting cut in the torso, or end the chapter before that with gojo having a reaction of him getting cut because it feels like it came out of nowhere, other then that I don't find his death to be that offensive could have been executed a lot worse.

people tend to forgot that most of the fights that include the "strongest" in any shounen manga got asspulls and nonsensical abilities it isn't something new.

but enough about Gojo it's time for the real GOAT to stomp, get his ass Kashimo!!!!!!!
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Sep 20, 2023 3:05 PM

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Welp even though I havent read the chapter, Rip to Gojo. :(
He always was Cocky and Positive but he had a certain charm to him, basically was carrying most of this series. It'll be interesting to see what Gege does from here on out.
Cant say anything at this point , maybe he'll be revived or something?

Update : After reading the chapter I now feel sadder :) even though Gojo wasnt my favourite character, He still was an awesome one.
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Sep 20, 2023 3:20 PM
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Dropped JJK today.
Sukuna got copped out 6+ times by Mahoraga, 2 times by megumi's soul, 4 times by the the ten shadows.
The heroes got no cop out. And any power up the heroes could get now would be rushed, and ass pulls.
Unless Gojo manages to live and at the very least stalemate Sukuna, Gege ruined JJK.
Sep 20, 2023 3:31 PM
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Kvothe_1 said:
edit btw: NOBARA IS ALIVE(she wasnt in afterlife)

1st and foremost.... PLEASE DONT BE TOXIC AGAINST THE MANGAKA UNLESS U WANT ANOTHER ENDING LIKE AOT...

2ndly
what was all that about gojo dad??

3rdly....infinity works upon the principeles of calcalus like how in limits the closer u come to thing the farthe away it is....so y does it matter if even the world is slashed?? infinity makes every attack slow.... IT DOESNT STOPS IT...
so some1 explain that plzz..... as for chap

gege u fucking monster ...i hate this i hate this guy and love him so much at the same time...he doesnt care about fan that much was clear from shibuya he has a story to tell and that he will without care of the world

Tsumiki also wasn't in the afterlife, and she had over a decade with Gojo....
Sep 20, 2023 3:33 PM

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I don't know what happened in this chapter and I don't want to know, but people on Twitter are literally starting to threaten the mangaka with death and send him sadistic wishes.
Sep 20, 2023 3:36 PM

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Ever since Gege said he wanted JJK to end soon he's been getting real lazy with his writing.

I don't mind Gojo dying. I do mind the way it was executed and presented. Offscreening Gojo is just a wild choice. And showing how it happened in the next chapter (which who knows if it'll be shown) won't fix how poorly it was storyboarded.
@KneelBeforeMe It's a very vague thing. Aka often said that he was tired of Kaguya and wanted to create something else and even started Oshi no Ko, but Kaguya still continued after that for several more years. Although yes, it was a shadow of the previous manga.
Sep 20, 2023 3:39 PM
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In the end what did Gojo accomplish ? Couldn’t save Riko, was completely oblivious to his best friend’s inner struggles, got sealed, resulting in major casualties on his side, came back and lost to Sukuna without freeing Megumi, even frying his brain in the process. This man was a walking L.

He better not be dead.
Sep 20, 2023 4:10 PM
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I ain’t even read this yet I already know what happened mannnnnnnn… WHY GOJO WHYYYYYYYY GEGE WHEN I CATCH GEGE WHEN I CATCH GEGE WHEN I CATCH YOU GEGE
Sep 20, 2023 4:48 PM
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We all knee Gojo was gonna die but those flashback panels rly did me in😭😭
Sep 20, 2023 6:00 PM

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Kvothe_1 said:
edit btw: NOBARA IS ALIVE(she wasnt in afterlife)

1st and foremost.... PLEASE DONT BE TOXIC AGAINST THE MANGAKA UNLESS U WANT ANOTHER ENDING LIKE AOT...

2ndly
what was all that about gojo dad??

3rdly....infinity works upon the principeles of calcalus like how in limits the closer u come to thing the farthe away it is....so y does it matter if even the world is slashed?? infinity makes every attack slow.... IT DOESNT STOPS IT...
so some1 explain that plzz..... as for chap

gege u fucking monster ...i hate this i hate this guy and love him so much at the same time...he doesnt care about fan that much was clear from shibuya he has a story to tell and that he will without care of the world

Tsumiki also wasn't in the afterlife, and she had over a decade with Gojo....
@awsmsteph maybe she want close enough?
Or maybe I m just coping at this point....🥲👍
Sep 20, 2023 6:34 PM

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I still can't believe that the finishing blow to Gojo happened off-screen. Like what the fuck, are we missing a few panels? Even if I understood what happened, why on Earth would this not be drawn? Did Sukuna put Gojo in a genjutsu or something? This is by far the most egregious and unexpected things I have read since Usagi Drop's second half. Like why isn't this final cleave shown?

In addition, what the fuck are you talking about Gojo? Mahoraga was the reason why Sukuna (apparently) won this fight. Where is this bullshit coming from where Sukuna did not need Mahoraga to win, when the last ten chapters literally disproves this point? Now, I do believe that Sukuna has a few techniques which he has yet to debut based on prior character commentary, but Sukuna was also nervous during certain moments with his fight with Gojo. This clearly was a close fight, so where is this bullshit of Gojo not standing a chance come from? What was the point of this fight if it wasn't even close?

Especially since Gojo was pretty fine whereas Sukuna was exhausted, and you're telling me Sukuna had enough cursed energy to completely cut Gojo in half, and Gojo just let that hapened?

These decisions by Gege make no sense to me other than killing Gojo, which at least needed to happen. Man, this was...unexpectedly bad for me. I hope chapter 237 clears things up.
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Sep 20, 2023 7:00 PM

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Yeah I don't know what Gege was thinking with this. It's like he forgot that he needs to actually write the story in between his big ideas. Good concept, bad execution.

Gojo losing I don't have an issue with and I was expecting anyway, and I like the mechanism behind it of indirectly killing him by simply deleting the space-time in which he occupies. But off-screening the most central character in the story and leaving the presentation up to an exposition dump is just bad storyboarding. The worst part about the leaks is the dialogue, though. Apparently Sukuna was holding back and Gojo knew that he'd lose all along despite no indication of such things from their fight. Both of them must be really good actors, and it makes the outcome feel completely unearned. Not sure how Mahoraga came back from being obliterated by an attack that deletes things from existence either.

Unless this is 4D chess and it's all miraculously explained with a fake-out, Gege drew himself a corner to intentionally walk into.
Sep 20, 2023 7:50 PM

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Yeah I don't know what Gege was thinking with this. It's like he forgot that he needs to actually write the story in between his big ideas. Good concept, bad execution.

Gojo losing I don't have an issue with and I was expecting anyway, and I like the mechanism behind it of indirectly killing him by simply deleting the space-time in which he occupies. But off-screening the most central character in the story and leaving the presentation up to an exposition dump is just bad storyboarding. The worst part about the leaks is the dialogue, though. Apparently Sukuna was holding back and Gojo knew that he'd lose all along despite no indication of such things from their fight. Both of them must be really good actors, and it makes the outcome feel completely unearned. Not sure how Mahoraga came back from being obliterated by an attack that deletes things from existence either.

Unless this is 4D chess and it's all miraculously explained with a fake-out, Gege drew himself a corner to intentionally walk into.
@the13thStruggle mahoraga didn't come back to slash gojo. Sukuna says that he used Mahoraga as a "blueprint" meaning that he learned from him. He learned how to slash through the world/reality or whatever just by looking at Mahoraga do it. Literally. I personally find this a bit easy, like sure Gege had to find a way somehow to make Sukuna win so the story would progress, but I don't dig it, I would have liked to see how Sukuna would've done without Megumi's CT, that way we could at least have a glimpse of what his CT is, and more importantly it would be a lot more of a fair fight, and Sukuna wouldn't receive all these fraud allegations. I can't help but think about how he would break through Gojo's infinity in that case. But maybe there was just no way to do it without Mahoraga.
Also, the fact that Gojo said that Sukuna was holding back until the end, that he didn't give his all to Gojo and that even without the 10 shadows he would've beat Gojo, I think Gege included that line to tell the fans that no matter the circumstances, Gojo would still have to lose for the story to progress, but honestly I don't believe that, I won't believe it if I don't see the fight happening. Honestly just feels like Gege was out of idea or lazy to think of a way to kill off Gojo without the 10 shadows, so he put that line to justify that Sukuna would still win. Also, that very line contradicts itself, why were we shown panels where Sukuna literally screams for his life, even the narrator saying that he felt nervous for the first time in a thousand year.

But yeah, quite disappointed with how it was shown, I would have hoped that it wasn't done off screen to add more impact. Starting out the chapter directly with Gojo in the afterlife kinda breaks the whole tension/suspense yk
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Sep 20, 2023 8:06 PM

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one of those moments in modern manga history. great chapter
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Sep 20, 2023 8:28 PM

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1. Sukuna now knows how to hit Gojo with Cleave because of Mahoraga? Oh cool he did that inside Malevolent Shrine a thousand times and Gojo just tanked it.




2. Sukuna was so strong that he was holding back all this time?




Peak writing.

I mean I don't care if Gojo dies, but atleast think of something.







Sep 20, 2023 8:46 PM
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Ain't no way gojo lost like this, this is bull-
Sep 20, 2023 9:57 PM

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I don't want to believe it, but it happened, there is still the possibility that Gojo can use the "reverse technique" and survive, since he still have their brain intact, but with the wear and tear he had and everything shown ... It is almost certain that we will have to say goodbye to the strongest wizard. Something that if I don't like is that he declared to be weaker than Sukuna and that Sukuna did not give everything of if WTF that way to spoil everything!!! No, you can't say that!!! Gege what the hell????
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Uggh another fav character is dead... it seems this manga was made to make me cry haha

it's pretty obvious he had to die so the story can move on, so when exactly can we get Yuuji's power up?
Sep 20, 2023 11:35 PM

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pain peko
Sep 21, 2023 12:21 AM
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The votes 'hated it' being the most☠️
Sep 21, 2023 1:06 AM

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Someone would've ended up dead anyways, it's just that he is Gojo, and that in itself kind of saddens me, but the way author pulled off something this major is in simple words.. just downright abysmal.

Offscreening Gojo's death doesn't make any sense, when just the last chapter he was seen obliterating multi-storey buildings and everything. Not sure if we would get the exact circumstances on how we reached this conclusion next chapter either, as I mean author really is in some rush to conclude his manga this year itself.
Sep 21, 2023 1:49 AM
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im sobbing so much
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The votes 'hated it' being the most☠️

When the author says in the last chapter, Sukuna was worried for first time in ages then contradicts himself to say “well he wasn’t actually trying”. That’s so bad as he not only contradicted himself, he wrote himself into a corner with Sukuna. He made him into what he hated about Gojo and also will make it seem somehow the other characters will surpass Gojo and Sukuna within these moments. Like talk about pulling asspulls just because Gege hated Gojo. Like make him lose. But with someway that makes sense to the future. Like “eventhough he did lose, he exhausted Sukuna”. Therefore you can make it believable that Sukuna will lose future wise. The whole chapter was only a disrespect with alot of contradictions in it. It is so badly written. That’s why most ppl and fans hate it. There is a portion because of Gojo but like I explained, it’s just so poorly written.
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The votes 'hated it' being the most☠️

When the author says in the last chapter, Sukuna was worried for first time in ages then contradicts himself to say “well he wasn’t actually trying”. That’s so bad as he not only contradicted himself, he wrote himself into a corner with Sukuna. He made him into what he hated about Gojo and also will make it seem somehow the other characters will surpass Gojo and Sukuna within these moments. Like talk about pulling asspulls just because Gege hated Gojo. Like make him lose. But with someway that makes sense to the future. Like “eventhough he did lose, he exhausted Sukuna”. Therefore you can make it believable that Sukuna will lose future wise. The whole chapter was only a disrespect with alot of contradictions in it. It is so badly written. That’s why most ppl and fans hate it. There is a portion because of Gojo but like I explained, it’s just so poorly written.
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Real, basically gege is the worst author, the way he writes fights r shit, i only understand the fights after mappa animated it + GEGE IS TRASH, A LOSER, A NOBODY, A PIECE OF SHIT, THE ONLY HUMAN I WANT DEAD
Sep 21, 2023 2:06 AM

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midjo in the mud, now i can finally start to enjoy the manga again
Sep 21, 2023 2:37 AM

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maybe she want close enough?
Or maybe I m just coping at this point

from what I understood, this is not just general afterlife, it's the last moment he was happy and content with his friends before everything went to shit, meaning it's the okinawa airport terminal before they went back to tokyo to turn riko in, resulting in everything that happened with toji and the aftermath of that. so you only see suguru who was on the mission with him there, nanami and haibara who joined later, riko and misato who they were escorting, all of whom are dead now (when I said everything went to shit after this I wasn't kidding!!)
you see gojo's also reverted to his teen self, so if this is the timeline he assumed in the afterlife, it would be weird to have either nobara or tsumiki there because they were literal children at that point, like, 7yo at most?
not that I wouldn't absolutely love nobara to be alive!
Sep 21, 2023 2:49 AM

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this manga won't finish in 2023

was it something gege said in an interview or something? i've seen this date floating around but somehow um having troubles believing it's possible. so much is still unsaid, and until the end of the year it's like, 12 chapters at most (less, if we consider gege's typical breaks)
@10vely Yeah Gege said that... But I choose X for doubt tbh
I read AoT so I can hate on it.
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unless Gege kills everyone except Sukuna & Kenjaku

omg imagine
the moral of the story in the end, the good guys never win
@10vely Honestly I think it will be some epic Yuji / Yuta vs Sukuna and Kenjaku fight in the end. Yuji is still a perfect vessel for Sukuna and who knows how he will evolve.. Although I don't know how that would work since there is less than 12 chapters as you mentioned.

I also forgot that its legit been like 5 months since Yuji got to know about the world of curses (since the time in the manga goes super slowly).
I read AoT so I can hate on it.
Sep 21, 2023 3:50 AM

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That was unexpected that Gojo died just like that. Wonder how the others feel about his death.
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1. Sukuna now knows how to hit Gojo with Cleave because of Mahoraga? Oh cool he did that inside Malevolent Shrine a thousand times and Gojo just tanked it.




2. Sukuna was so strong that he was holding back all this time?




Peak writing.

I mean I don't care if Gojo dies, but atleast think of something.
@-Shinzo
1. Fair enough that doesn't make sense then again he didn't use cleave once in the entire fight possible he didn't in the domain but that's just a theory.

2. This however was stated by Kusababe in the last few chapters he did mention he was holding back. Cause he couldn't go all out due to him fighting everyone else afterwards anyway. Even Hakari said the same thing. Gojo literally confirmed it due not using his technique.

But I will give you him screaming for mahoraga was dumb though he was in panic mode for whatever reason. Why are you panicking you literally killed him next chapter.

Gege killing gojo offscreen was stupid as well.
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while on the topic of the afterlife

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gege is an inbreed bastard and the manga was honestly a steaming pile of shit
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gege is an inbreed bastard and the manga was honestly a steaming pile of shit
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This hackery exceeds o my rubber nen
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Damn bro, that just happened.
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@-Shinzo
1. Fair enough that doesn't make sense then again he didn't use cleave once in the entire fight possible he didn't in the domain but that's just a theory.

2. This however was stated by Kusababe in the last few chapters he did mention he was holding back. Cause he couldn't go all out due to him fighting everyone else afterwards anyway. Even Hakari said the same thing. Gojo literally confirmed it due not using his technique.

But I will give you him screaming for mahoraga was dumb though he was in panic mode for whatever reason. Why are you panicking you literally killed him next chapter.

Gege killing gojo offscreen was stupid as well.
@BigBossQb He used cleave against Gojo on the opening fight, which sliced a building in half








Sep 21, 2023 6:30 AM

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Why Gege why... Giving him a death like that T~T
Sep 21, 2023 6:43 AM

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That's definitely been it for me with this manga. Ever since the Shibuya arc the story got worse and worse, but - for me - deciding to end Gojo like that is the death of what could have been a great series.

Is Gege even trying to write a good story? For almost two years it's been constant: introduction of character - long ass description of their cursed technique - kill character or forget about them. There is no character development whatsoever, cursed techniques get more ridiculous only to fill holes in the plot or other techniques. And now he brings back Gojo after two years only to kill him off immediately after he accomplished literally nothing. There is no benefit to the story that he died now and like this.

I'm not mad that Gojo died, I'm mad that an author deliberately butchers his own story and it feels like he doesn't even know where he wants to go with all of this.
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Gege is really torturing us ngl
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What is this cut the space hence cut the infinity?

Gojo can easily tank these cuts yet he is cut in half?

The afterlife part, I think Gojo was just imagining this stuff when he was dying.

What is Kenjaku's plan with Sukuna and Gojo? he wanted Gojo sealed, No? (Make body swaps with Gojo?)

If we are to assume the afterlife part was real, then Gojo is surely dead. Other dead not showing up in the scene doesn't mean they are not dead, it could mean they were not important enough for Gojo to show up in his conclusion.



Sep 21, 2023 8:37 AM
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gojo meat riders should just accept that he is dead, he meet geto or other people who died already..
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@BigBossQb He used cleave against Gojo on the opening fight, which sliced a building in half

@-Shinzo that was dismantle he says before he did.

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Oh wow. Welp. So that was the buildup. Classic JJK.


Kinda wanna hope to see Gojo somehow revives back in the post chapters but I suppose that is just me. R.I.P.
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