| Farewell to Weapons form Short Peace is a current example of what I'd like to see more of. Designs and concept from the manly age of anime, with great digital technique and high resolution picture. |
| I think story is main factor, animation and style are secondary. Hadashi no Gen, Otaku no Video, Cowboy Bebop and Trigun, is very good examples. Who said old anime sucks, he's from shit tier. |
121th said: are* very good examples. (I'm studying for English teacher so I will be a grammar nazi, don't hate me.I think story is main factor, animation and style are secondary. Hadashi no Gen, Otaku no Video, Cowboy Bebop and Trigun, is very good examples. Who said old anime sucks, he's from shit tier. And you named a few but forgot the best: Great Teacher Onizuka!! |
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Bean_Bandit said: Their loss. They're missing out on some truly visionary animation and storytelling. Especially in the feature lengths and OVAs. Even throwaway "trash" like Genocyber is better animated, better drawn, and has more inspired lunacy than most of what you can find today. And forget about even trying to hang with Patlabor 2, Royal Space Force, Jin Roh, Mononoke Hime, Magnetic Rose etc. If we are talking about movies and OVAs, I'd say that Mind Game, Summer wars and about every Hosoda, 5 centimeters per second, The wind rises, etc. can very perfectly match those anime classics as works of artistic significance. And there's also the typical cheap, exploitative OVA from the 80s and early 90s. It's easy to state the superiority of an era when you forget about bland shit like Baoh or the godawful Roots search. |
| You'd think given the overuse of moe that people would be more amenable to character designs where the eyes don't make up 2/5ths of their face. Then again, they can just watch Gundam Unicorn or Zankyou no Terror for that. |
| You are not exactly that much better for hating on someone because of their preferences. |
fst said: You'd think given the overuse of moe that people would be more amenable to character designs where the eyes don't make up 2/5ths of their face. Then again, they can just watch Gundam Unicorn or Zankyou no Terror for that. You'd be still selling them the frail bishonen shota of ZnT. Good luck with that if they're coming from Cobra, Spike and Batou. |
OkiuraSep 15, 2014 5:37 PM
| I've personally haven't seen a lot of old anime but I have a few things to say about it. This is going to be one of those longer post. I used to be in a phase that I did find the people who evaded old anime like a plague due to the animation as "close-minded". At that point, I've tried to persuade a few friends to watch some anime that isn't even considered old in my book. Especially one friend labelled everything five years old to be old and almost never gave them a chance. I just kind of gave up on the topic and thought they will just miss out some of the (not even) old anime. I would have to admit that I have a tendency to go watch new anime rather than an old one (90's or prior to that). If they had similar genre and a similar score, I would without a doubt go with the newer anime. Though animation does matter to a certain point, it wouldn't be bad enough to be treated like a horrifying experience from watching old stuff. Animation does matter, but only to the point (to me) that would bring a good anime to an even better one. Like adding fruits, cream or decorations to a cake. A cake by itself taste amazing already! ^^ I got a little comment to say after thinking about this topic a little. Just kind of like a theory or a hypothesis. This guess would take place in the near future (maybe 20+ years?). The titles that are popular now like Steins Gate, Clannad: After Story, etc, and the ones mentioned by ShortCircuit-kun. They will be considered old by a significant amount of people, but would they receive the same treatment? The animation quality for the ones said above are amazing in many ways, meaning that the animation quality shouldn't be a problem anymore. Would some anime be treated as just an "old anime" and be thrown aside? Though I do believe that some of the anime popularity would be an all time thing. |
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| people dont like watching old animation cause it looks old, they'd probably watch it if it was remastered or something though |
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| You can't remaster 80's hairstyles though. |
| This topic sure seems to come up regularly. I know I've said before that I am surprised by how much the old vs. new debate seems to matter in this community. In other areas of popular culture that I have encountered, it doesn't seem to be such a big deal. I have never avoided old stuff; if anything, I have a tendency to seek it out. When I was growing up, I listened to the music of my parents' generation (late 1950s/1960s) because I thought it was better than that of my own (late 1970s/1980s). As I got older, I looked backward, discovering the music of my grandparents' generation and before. Anime is only different from this in that I find that a lot of the recent material is actually good. Whether it is old or new, if I think an anime film or series is largely successful in whatever it is trying to do, I'll be satisfied. I've enjoyed watching anime from the 1940s and the 2010s, and I won't limit myself to one or the other. If animation quality drove my choices, I would probably avoid most anime; this simply isn't its strong point. I find almost all recent and old anime (and, for that matter, television animation from other countries) to be lacking in this department, although I think it has improved, on average, in recent years. Character designs and backgrounds, on the other hand, are often excellent. The best Hollywood studios got animation right in the 1940s, and hardly anybody since then has had the budget to do better. (I know this viewpoint will be controversial; judging animation quality is a highly subjective task.) I'm sure today's big hits will, in ten or twenty years (or more), be considered old and decrepit by many in the fan base of that time, but old stuff will always have its fans. Just as I sit here listening to some great records by Helen Shapiro (if you know who she is, you get some points) and consider watching an episode of Mahou Tsukai Sally or Gatchaman, somebody in 2040 will be browsing an anime-related forum (or whatever the futuristic equivalent is), listening to Amy Winehouse, and trying to decide whether to watch Steins Gate or Clannad: After Story. And on that forum, the great old vs. new debate will be raging. Some things never change. |
| It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue. |
fst said: you can remaster anything if you tryYou can't remaster 80's hairstyles though. |
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| Let them hate it, they can have their own opinion. |
JOAOAA said: fst said: you can remaster anything if you tryYou can't remaster 80's hairstyles though. Exactly. Look at JJBA's lol |
| I don't mind anything from the 90s but I can't watch anything older than that. I'm sorry if my preferences bother you. But art style matters to me. |
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| Old anime does not have enough moe compared to new anime. In all seriousness, I enjoy old school anime as much as the recent anime. I am very tolerant of art quality too. |
JOAOAA said: Remastered cel/film anime from before 2000 can look great on Blu-Ray, potentially better than ~1999-2007 digipaint anime originally made in SD. But while high-res film rescans can create some pretty good-looking 720p/1080p anime, they can't change 4:3 content into 16:9 without huge expenses or destructive changes. And that's a major stumbling block for the present-day "must have shiny-looking HD anime that fills my whole screen" crowd. Even though nobody hated on the 16:9 anime of the early/mid-00s for not filling their 4:3 screens...people don't like watching old animation cause it looks old, they'd probably watch it if it was remastered or something though |
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Zalis said: I don't think anyone can deny that it is a bit annoying having black straps along the sides of your monitor due to having to watch 4:3 format :/JOAOAA said: Remastered cel/film anime from before 2000 can look great on Blu-Ray, potentially better than ~1999-2007 digipaint anime originally made in SD. But while high-res film rescans can create some pretty good-looking 720p/1080p anime, they can't change 4:3 content into 16:9 without huge expenses or destructive changes. And that's a major stumbling block for the present-day "must have shiny-looking HD anime that fills my whole screen" crowd. Even though nobody hated on the 16:9 anime of the early/mid-00s for not filling their 4:3 screens...people don't like watching old animation cause it looks old, they'd probably watch it if it was remastered or something though if you had a monitor with that kind of resolution it'd be less distracting |
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HaXXspetten said: I don't think anyone can deny that it is a bit annoying having black straps along the sides of your monitor due to having to watch 4:3 format :/ It really isn't that big of an issue, you get used to it in like 10 minutes and if you're focusing on the show it's even less of a "problem" if at all. Subtitles at the bottom of the screen is more of a "distraction" than the evil black bars |
Kaimon said: well of course it's not a huge deal, but you'd still rather not have them thereHaXXspetten said: I don't think anyone can deny that it is a bit annoying having black straps along the sides of your monitor due to having to watch 4:3 format :/ It really isn't that big of an issue, you get used to it in like 10 minutes and if you're focusing on the show it's even less of a "problem" if at all. Subtitles at the bottom of the screen is more of a "distraction" than the evil black bars ..how are subtitles distracting though? o.O I mean you *want* those to be there |
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Yes, pick the most worst looking characters for the new category like they represent all of the new anime characters. |
| I don't go for old anime, but it has nothing to do with content. In fact, I'm inclined to believe that some of the old anime have vastly superior content and drawing quality. However, what I can't stand is the style of the drawing. |
mayukachan said: That's what cherry pickers do.Yes, pick the most worst looking characters for the new category like they represent all of the new anime characters. |
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I'd say you'd make an interesting point...but the fact that the top image has a "Boku no Pico" image in the "now" category is pretty stupid since that's a "trap"/shotacon hentai. Way to completely derail your own argument... |
mayukachan said: wait that was the intention? :oYes, pick the most worst looking characters for the new category like they represent all of the new anime characters. I though the new ones still looked much better lol |
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| I Love all animes new and old :) |
| Uh, another old/new thread! you are missing the base if you miss old ones, but so you cannot be - surely - persuaded, I respect you so I like the new ones too XD |
I'll tell you something, my Tenchi. You know, the carnival comes and goes... if you wait for a while, it'll always come back to you, Tenchi.  |
| those are the kind of people who refuse to watch older movies cause "ew old xD" i say, it is their loss because they are missing out on some gems |
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ParaParaJMo said: mayukachan said: Yes, pick the most worst looking characters for the new category like they represent all of the new anime characters. Funny this is the crap that I see representing new anime whenever I go to Akihabara. I think that's probably true for female characters, considering all I ever see around is moe or fanservice. But I doubt it's true for male ones. You should've used more generic harem protagonists to make it true. |
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| This thread is so cringeworthy literally couldn't get past page 2. Mladen said: ParaParaJMo said: Funny this is the crap that I see representing new anime whenever I go to Akihabara. I think that's probably true for female characters, considering all I ever see around is moe or fanservice. But I doubt it's true for male ones. You should've used more generic harem protagonists to make it true. Boku no Pico. |
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| We need someone to speak in representation of all the people who likes old anime: Who better than Yang? |
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Akai_Shuichi said: We need someone to speak in representation of all the people who likes old anime No, "we" do not. |
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| Ehhh. Let them like what they like as long as they recognize that without the old stuff, a lot of their favorites wouldn't exist. I don't get why they wouldn't like the animation, I think cell animation has a certain charm that's missing in digital |
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Akai_Shuichi said: We need someone to speak in representation of all the people who likes old anime: Who better than Yang? [yt]0i5A9SB-ACM[/] Yang is my husbando. |
| well judging from the chara *design*, older anime is inferior. But that's make older anime have a...what is it...signature about it |
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| I used to think I was ok with watching old anime. Then I tried Mobile Suit Gundam (1979). That was too much; it felt so old in animation, direction and storytelling I couldn't stand it for more than 10 minutes. Everyone has its limits, but if you think 2006 is already too old, you need to broaden your horizons. |
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MugenRyuugen said: well judging from the chara *design*, older anime is inferior. But that's make older anime have a...what is it...signature about it Do you mean "nostalgic quality"? |
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FGAU1912 said: mayukachan said: Yes, pick the most worst looking characters for the new category like they represent all of the new anime characters. older art looked more detailed thats coming form a cell collector put then again that like comparing CGI or Practicak effects in film ii HATE HATE HATE HATE CGI you could i have fruy cause of it What the fuck are you typing? I can barely understand what you typed. |
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