YorozuyaGinSan said: SolBlade said: To emphasize how powerful his favorite characters are (Kenpachi). Simultaneously making his least favorites look like shit (Rojuro & Kensei).I always wondered why Kubo would give a side villain such a hax ability. I still laugh at the fact how Kensei's fight with Wonderweiss Was Wonderweiss even that powerful? |
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YorozuyaGinSan said: To emphasize how powerful his favorite characters are (Kenpachi). Simultaneously making his least favorites look like shit (Rojuro & Kensei). Based Kubo at it again. In retrospect, maybe Ichigo is Aizen's bankai. Mod Edit: Modified quote tower; please spoiler or remove old quotes. |
NiyawaMay 2, 2014 11:07 AM
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YorozuyaGinSan said: To emphasize how powerful his favorite characters are (Kenpachi). Simultaneously making his least favorites look like shit (Rojuro & Kensei). Most boring fight I have ever read. Mod Edit: Modified quote tower; please spoiler or remove old quotes. |
NiyawaMay 2, 2014 11:04 AM
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Feyfray said: This and One Piece, I'd agree.Hunter x Hunter is in a league of its own I'm considering going back through Bleach, only reading it this time, I only got through the Soul Society Arc the first time. I'm wondering, at what point does it just stop being worth it, and should I even read past the Soul Society Arc? (That's how far I watched) |
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| I'm about to start rereading Pandora Hearts, will reread Black Butler when I'm caught up again. Rocko52 said: I recommend reading up to the end of Aizen's arc but some people consider Hueco Mundo arc to be the point it goes downhill. The Arrancar introduction arc was alright.I'm considering going back through Bleach, only reading it this time, I only got through the Soul Society Arc the first time. I'm wondering, at what point does it just stop being worth it, and should I even read past the Soul Society Arc? (That's how far I watched) |
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| Bleach villain unlike the other Big 3 feel really shallow. Quincy especially didn't have any notable background. As Nods also have one of the most stupid flashback ever. |
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Rocko52 said: Feyfray said: This and One Piece, I'd agree.Hunter x Hunter is in a league of its own I'm considering going back through Bleach, only reading it this time, I only got through the Soul Society Arc the first time. I'm wondering, at what point does it just stop being worth it, and should I even read past the Soul Society Arc? (That's how far I watched) i thinks its best to leave it at soul society |
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| Naruto and Bleach have great stories, great characters, and a sense of progress. I wish I could say the same about One Piece, but honestly, the majority of it feels like filler that doesn't contribute to the overall story. It doesn't feel like it's ever going anywhere. Now I often compare One Piece to Dragonball Z, but at least Dragon Ball Z is always moving, even if it is incredibly slow. Naruto fillers are generally terrible and Bleach fillers are only slightly better, but hey, fillers are almost never considered good so it's not really a big deal I guess. |
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| @Dark_Chaos: One Piece is destined to be an endless journey. We're just viewing it from afar :P Also, OP doesn't really become more "DBZ"-like till later on. |
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Dark_Chaos said: Naruto and Bleach have great stories, great characters, and a sense of progress. I wish I could say the same about One Piece, but honestly, the majority of it feels like filler that doesn't contribute to the overall story. It doesn't feel like it's ever going anywhere. Now I often compare One Piece to Dragonball Z, but at least Dragon Ball Z is always moving, even if it is incredibly slow. Naruto fillers are generally terrible and Bleach fillers are only slightly better, but hey, fillers are almost never considered good so it's not really a big deal I guess. Seriously, how has the story of One Piece not progressed in any way in the last 600+ episodes? Are you honestly trying to tell me that the characters are in the same situation they were in the beginning? If you're talking about how Luffy isn't close to his main goal of being The Pirate King, then you're wrong. The Pirate King is the strongest, most important, richest and most powerful person in the world. It's not an easy road to become The Pirate King. With every arc, Luffy has gained strength, experience and knowledge about the world. He is on the way to become The Pirate King, but it's still a very long, long way. Another thing, the adventure itself is part of the plot of One Piece. Like SolBlade said, it's a series designed as a seemingly endless journey (i say seemingly because it's obviously going to have an end). So, with every new adventure, One Piece is advancing it's plot. And finally, Oda confirmed that since the time-skip we're past the middle point of the story, so it's definitely going somewhere. By the way, i agree with what you said about Naruto and Bleach :) |
Andan210Apr 29, 2014 9:12 AM
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| The story hardly ever progressed, in the main huge arcs, and we get a sliver of progression in mini arcs but that's it. Main arcs almost never do that. |
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| The series is arc based so there won't be much progression towards to end goal until near the end. They are mainly focused on the here and now, which can explain that. I don't mind it at all. More endless adventure (starring Mr. Fantastic) for me! |
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SolBlade said: The series is arc based so there won't be much progression towards to end goal until near the end. They are mainly focused on the here and now, which can explain that. I don't mind it at all. More endless adventure (starring Mr. Fantastic) for me! Well yeah but after 400 chapters of revealing world weapons I'd like them to, when they finally and glacially get to it again, take it to the next level rather than just naming the second weapon :-P And the fishman island is not so pleasant that I'd be content with "the adventure over destination" aspect! |
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| Hmm... fair enough. They did show the first weapon in Skypeia, right? And the second in FI. I've read this theory that One Piece itself is a giant weapon capable of uniting the four seas by destroying Reverse Mountain or something. Once we get more information on the Void Century, I'm sure we'll get more on the end goal. The Fishman Island arc was meant to be shorter in the anime, to be honest. In the manga, the longest arc is Skypeia. |
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Andan210 said: Dark_Chaos said: Naruto and Bleach have great stories, great characters, and a sense of progress. I wish I could say the same about One Piece, but honestly, the majority of it feels like filler that doesn't contribute to the overall story. It doesn't feel like it's ever going anywhere. Now I often compare One Piece to Dragonball Z, but at least Dragon Ball Z is always moving, even if it is incredibly slow. Naruto fillers are generally terrible and Bleach fillers are only slightly better, but hey, fillers are almost never considered good so it's not really a big deal I guess. Seriously, how has the story of One Piece not progressed in any way in the last 600+ episodes? Are you honestly trying to tell me that the characters are in the same situation they were in the beginning? If you're talking about how Luffy isn't close to his main goal of being The Pirate King, then you're wrong. The Pirate King is the strongest, most important, richest and most powerful person in the world. It's not an easy road to become The Pirate King. With every arc, Luffy has gained strength, experience and knowledge about the world. He is on the way to become The Pirate King, but it's still a very long, long way. Another thing, the adventure itself is part of the plot of One Piece. Like SolBlade said, it's a series designed as a seemingly endless journey (i say seemingly because it's obviously going to have an end). So, with every new adventure, One Piece is advancing it's plot. And finally, Oda confirmed that since the time-skip we're past the middle point of the story, so it's definitely going somewhere. By the way, i agree with what you said about Naruto and Bleach :) Read again. I've even bolded the important part for you. |
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| FI was 50 chapters, no? Still pretty long. Skypiea was only 60, and it felt proportional for the first two thirds because it actually offerered a lot in them. |
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| Skypeia is better than Fishman Island, I'll give you that. Oda decided to make his favorite rapper god. What's next? Tupac as the final villain? Their lengths are similar though it does seem weird when something like Marineford is ~10 less episodes than Skypeia yet is only half the length of it in the manga (Marineford was 30 chapters). Dressrosa is pretty good right now. Easily the best post-timeskip arc thus far (though the other two are Punk Hazard and Fishman Island, so...). What starts off as a Tournament arc becomes something else. |
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| Haha what? I thought Snoop and T.I were his favorites. |
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| Oda did say that Eminem was his favorite rapper. Maybe we'll get Snoop Dogg/Lion next? And he'll be the equivalent of Satan instead and will be able to turn into a Dog as has Devil Fruit ability. |
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Dark_Chaos said: Read again. I've even bolded the important part for you. My point still stands, since i was talking about the majority of the series. Mod Edit: Modified quote tower; please spoiler or remove old quotes. |
NiyawaMay 2, 2014 11:09 AM
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SolBlade said: Oda did say that Eminem was his favorite rapper. Maybe we'll get Snoop Dogg/Lion next? And he'll be the equivalent of Satan instead and will be able to turn into a Dog as has Devil Fruit ability. He drew art of T.I and Snoop I think, or maybe that was fake? |
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| I understand if people say slowly progressed, but hardly progressed? No waaaay. A lot of things changed from the beginning up until this point; the crew, the ship, the place, the allies, the enemies, the situation, the system, even the world itself. And One Piece is an adventure story, the adventure in every arc is the little step to the ending. Except you watch Luffy sleeps and fights in his dream for 50+ chapters, that doesn't contribute to the story at all. |
wanderingplayboy said: I understand if people say slowly progressed, but hardly progressed? No waaaay. A lot of things changed from the beginning up until this point; the crew, the ship, the place, the allies, the enemies, the situation, the system, even the world itself. And One Piece is an adventure story, the adventure in every arc is the little step to the ending. Except you watch Luffy sleeps and fights in his dream for 50+ chapters, that doesn't contribute to the story at all. The overall story itself progresses at discrete points while the "adventure" feels somewhat disjointed from it, and the adventure itself feels like it hardly progresses, within itself (character development for the crew) or overall (tying to the main plot). |
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wanderingplayboy said: Except you watch Luffy sleeps and fights in his dream for 50+ chapters, that doesn't contribute to the story at all. Imagine all of One Piece was just a dream? And Luffy was unconscious since he almost got killed by the Sea King in the beginning of the series? That would be M. Night Shyamalan level trolling right there. |
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| Is it me or does One Piece get nitpicked the most out of all big name battle shounen on here? Maybe I'm just lurking the wrong threads |
Kaimon said: Is it me or does One Piece get nitpicked the most out of all big name battle shounen on here? Maybe I'm just lurking the wrong threads Let's go for another Battle Shounen in that case. A change of topic should be fun. |
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Kaimon said: Is it me or does One Piece get nitpicked the most out of all big name battle shounen on here? Maybe I'm just lurking the wrong threads The more the claims of perfection and flawlessness the more counters it'll receive. |
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Kaimon said: There are the most conversations about it out of all the big name battle shounens, so there's more nitpicking and defending.Is it me or does One Piece get nitpicked the most out of all big name battle shounen on here? Maybe I'm just lurking the wrong threads |
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Kaimon said: Is it me or does One Piece get nitpicked the most out of all big name battle shounen on here? Maybe I'm just lurking the wrong threads That's when people want to look edgy and controversial for hating a popular and loved series. When they just want to shit on big battle shounens they often go for Naruto or Dragon Ball. |
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Kaimon said: Is it me or does One Piece get nitpicked the most out of all big name battle shounen on here? Maybe I'm just lurking the wrong threads Yeah, I'd say it is now, although back in the day it was Naruto that got all the hate and all. |
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Andan210 said: Kaimon said: Is it me or does One Piece get nitpicked the most out of all big name battle shounen on here? Maybe I'm just lurking the wrong threads That's when people want to look edgy and controversial for hating a popular and loved series. When they just want to shit on big battle shounens they often go for Naruto or Dragon Ball. So having an opinion of it can't possibly be anything but edgy and controversial attempts? |
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| You know, this thread isn't nearly as interesting as I thought it would be.. |
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tsudecimo said: You know, this thread isn't nearly as interesting as I thought it would be.. Not enough naruto flame wars? |
Reciprocal said: It's only as interesting as the people in it make it.tsudecimo said: You know, this thread isn't nearly as interesting as I thought it would be.. Not enough naruto flame wars? JD2411 said: It doesn't have all that much relevance to the overall plot. So, will I miss anything incredibly important by skipping it? |
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| I enjoyed all these major battle shounen: Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, Fairy Tail, Hunter x Hunter. Does that put me in the minority. I agree that some were better than others, but each of them did something better than their counterparts and I appreciate all of them. I'm surprised that so many people pick one or pick none and hate on the rest. |
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JD2411 said: Guys, can I skip the Skypeia arc in One Piece because it's so fucking terrible and boring Pretty much Oda blatantly ripping off the Edolas arc from Fairy Tail So, will I miss anything incredibly important by skipping it? Yeah, you can skip it and not miss anything, although you may be wondering what dials are, but it's not worth going through that entire arc. |
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OneOpinion said: Considering One Piece and Naruto are in the top 5 best selling Manga, I'd say no.I enjoyed all these major battle shounen: Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, Fairy Tail, Hunter x Hunter. Does that put me in the minority? I agree that some were better than others, but each of them did something better than their counterparts and I appreciate all of them. I'm surprised that so many people pick one or pick none and hate on the rest. I think they're all atleast average. I'd give One Piece 9/8 for Manga/Anime, Naruto 8/7, Bleach 7/7, and Fairy Tail 5/4. |
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JD2411 said: Guys, can I skip the Skypeia arc in One Piece because it's so fucking terrible and boring Pretty much Oda blatantly ripping off the Edolas arc from Fairy Tail So, will I miss anything incredibly important by skipping it? You can skip most battle arcs but Skypiea is pretty good, once it reveals something. |
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JD2411 said: I don't see him as a real villain like Madara, Orochimaru and Danzo. He is a sympathetic villain like Pain and Tobi but he is pretty badass though.DrGeroCreation said: I think Kabuto was a good villainBest villains of Naruto : Madara, Orochimaru, Danzo Worst villain : Tobi |
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| are there any really good shounen out there that I haven't watched yet? I need to watch a good one (I know about magi and gintama, saving em for later) |
DrGeroCreation said: Best villains of Naruto : Pain, Madara, Danzo, Tobi Fixed. Reciprocal said: tsudecimo said: You know, this thread isn't nearly as interesting as I thought it would be.. Not enough naruto flame wars? The thread is boring in general. OneOpinion said: I enjoyed all these major battle shounen: Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, Fairy Tail, Hunter x Hunter. Does that put me in the minority. I agree that some were better than others, but each of them did something better than their counterparts and I appreciate all of them. I'm surprised that so many people pick one or pick none and hate on the rest. I consider two of these my favorites, and I like two of them a little bit, dislike what's left. |
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OneOpinion said: I enjoyed all these major battle shounen: Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, Fairy Tail, Hunter x Hunter. Does that put me in the minority. I agree that some were better than others, but each of them did something better than their counterparts and I appreciate all of them. I'm surprised that so many people pick one or pick none and hate on the rest. You're not alone, i also like and enjoy all of them (also Dragon Ball, FullMetal Alchemist and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, since we're talking about major titles). Of course i have shows i like more than others, but for me each one apported something than the rest didn't. I think that's the best thing about battle shounens, that even when they're supposedly just repeating formulas and cliches (according to haters), they all are different when it comes to the real important thing: execution. Doesn't matter if one series is using a concept previously used by another one, because the fact is that they all handle that concept in a different way, with different results and different means. JD2411 said: Guys, can I skip the Skypeia arc in One Piece because it's so fucking terrible and boring Pretty much Oda blatantly ripping off the Edolas arc from Fairy Tail So, will I miss anything incredibly important by skipping it? You're gonna have to try harder, JD. Your trolling level is still in 1/10. |
Andan210Apr 29, 2014 4:42 PM
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