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Jun 20, 2015 11:33 AM

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Oh yea, and some other VN tracks showing up, like This Illusion and Sword of Promised Victory... that was nice too. I'm really happy about that.
Jun 20, 2015 11:34 AM
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How did Archer survive? Asspull?
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Eniie said:
How did Archer survive? Asspull?

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Jun 20, 2015 11:36 AM

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Next episode epilogue

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Jun 20, 2015 11:36 AM
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FireEmblemIke24 said:
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I have a feeling the show's score will fall after this episode.


fate zero fans will probably be flipping

UR totally right, I am
Jun 20, 2015 11:36 AM

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Eniie said:
How did Archer survive? Asspull?


His core was not destroyed.
Servants are inhuman. They are Spirits embodied via mana vessels. As long as their core is not destroyed they can continue existing as long as they have enough mana.

Just ignore that ufo made Archer cast second UBW and it will be fine
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Eniie said:
How did Archer survive? Asspull?


Independent Action.

Also, look at pg 2. He only took 4 swords. 3 of them were normal.
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Jun 20, 2015 11:36 AM

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I feel bad Gilgamesh died such a pathetic death, he didn't even use Ea.
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Eniie said:
How did Archer survive? Asspull?


No fucking idea. Even the Independent Action trait couldn't have saved him unless the anime changed the rules of that trait. And since this is different from the VN, it can't be explained from the VN either. I'm, tbh, am at a loss....
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Jun 20, 2015 11:37 AM

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5/5
This is my favorite episode from the second season. 6 Visual Novel songs.
This Illusion (Piano Version), Into the Night, Sword of Promised Victory, Sorrow, EMIYA, and New Dawn.
A new desktop background,

and a funny Shirou quote.


Of course the subs are still shitty. They messed up the UBW chant, and the "Here I come" moment. :/
Jun 20, 2015 11:38 AM

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BenMS said:
Eniie said:
How did Archer survive? Asspull?


No fucking idea. Even the Independent Action trait couldn't have saved him unless the anime changed the rules of that trait. And since this is different from the VN, it can't be explained from the VN either. I'm, tbh, am at a loss....


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Jun 20, 2015 11:38 AM

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Eniie said:
How did Archer survive? Asspull?

He is Unknown to death. :D
Jun 20, 2015 11:38 AM

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That was mad hype!!! :O

Shiro vs Gil was glorious!! Dat Emiya, Rho Aias, Arm cutting,...everything!!

Archer's arrow in Gil's head was EPIC! And his farewell to Rin with Shiro's hair style and his smile were really nicely done :)

3 of my fav VN OSTs played to add :3

Best ep of the series!
Jun 20, 2015 11:41 AM

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Yay for all the fucking Zero spoilers in this thread. Time to report.

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rewatch the episode..the explanations are there.UBW is the absolute counter to Gil.


The explanations are not there in the episode and the way the fight was directed goes against the explanations. They did not do anything to show how FUCKED Gil is inside UBW, let alone why.

It just looked like Shirou beat GIl with power and then Gil won(?)


Yes,it was more explained in details in the VN.The explanation when the Emiya theme starts playing givs you a rough idea of what happened there.If one wants details,they can go and read the VN
Jun 20, 2015 11:41 AM

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They fucking did it! New Dawn remix. Why am I the only one excited for this? That track is WAYY better than EMIYA.

5/5 episode for New Dawn remix alone. It was well executed as a whole, though.
Jun 20, 2015 11:41 AM

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chakracat said:
I feel bad Gilgamesh died such a pathetic death, he didn't even use Ea.

Pay attention to Gilgamesh in Heaven's Feel. It's his best route. :)
Jun 20, 2015 11:42 AM

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This was by far the best UBW episode, and one of my favorite anime episodes in general. If only the rest of the series was half as good as this...
I even liked Archer's farewell, and I hate him with passion. I shed a fucking tear for that bastard.
Man, that was perfect.

Guess what was the best part of the episode? Shirou's monologue. Plz Ufo, learn from this.
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Irrelative said:
chakracat said:
I feel bad Gilgamesh died such a pathetic death, he didn't even use Ea.

Pay attention to Gilgamesh in Heaven's Feel. It's his best route. :)

ayy lmao
Jun 20, 2015 11:43 AM

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Irrelative said:
chakracat said:
I feel bad Gilgamesh died such a pathetic death, he didn't even use Ea.

Pay attention to Gilgamesh in Heaven's Feel. It's his best route. :)

LOL
Jun 20, 2015 11:43 AM

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Irrelative said:
chakracat said:
I feel bad Gilgamesh died such a pathetic death, he didn't even use Ea.

Pay attention to Gilgamesh in Heaven's Feel. It's his best route. :)


xD
Jun 20, 2015 11:43 AM

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Wait, didn't Gilgamesh hold his own against Saber at Fate/Zero? And now he loses to Shirou?


saber got rekted also powerlevel in nasuverse are just rock paper sicciors


My memory on this is hazy, but wasn't Gilgamesh defeating Saber due to using multiple weapons and interchanging them, as well as summoning them whilst fighting. Saber only has the one sword whilst Gilgamesh (despite not being a "wielder") can still use a variety.

Shirou obviously has no problem with this :P.

But I'm probably wrong soeh.
Jun 20, 2015 11:43 AM

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Gov said:
I have a feeling the show's score will fall after this episode.


Agreed but imagine if it didn't even have a VN.
    
   
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5/5
This is my favorite episode from the second season. 6 Visual Novel songs.
This Illusion (Piano Version), Into the Night, Sword of Promised Victory, Sorrow, EMIYA, and New Dawn.
A new desktop background,

and a funny Shirou quote.


Of course the subs are still shitty. They messed up the UBW chant, and the "Here I come" moment. :/

Pretty much this. This topped episode 20 in terms of emotional resonance. Saber and Archer's goodbyes were glorious T_T
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xShigarakix said:
Irrelative said:

Pay attention to Gilgamesh in Heaven's Feel. It's his best route. :)


xD
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Absolutely terrible episode. The insufferable shounen idiot was granted an asspull of a last minute powerup and was only able to defeat the best servant because he is the protag who has to win for the sake of the plot. All of those midair acrobatics and sudden combat prowess along with Gil not using Ea were all contrived bullshit. Archer returning to save Rin and Shirou was the worst offender. He was already killed, so he should have died.
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Guilek said:
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How did Archer survive? Asspull?

He is Unknown to death. :D

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Jun 20, 2015 11:47 AM
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Now this... this is how you do an episode properly :')
The OST was used very well (full EMIYA, This Illusion, New Dawn...), the animation was top-notch, but the best part is that I just think they adapted it amazingly. You know something is right when you get goosebumps. It was beautiful. Thank you ufotable
Jun 20, 2015 11:47 AM
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Lol dat nakama trust asspull
Jun 20, 2015 11:48 AM

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ZeroDragon said:
Absolutely terrible episode. The insufferable shounen idiot was granted an asspull of a last minute powerup and was only able to defeat the best servant because he is the protag who has to win for the sake of the plot. All of those midair acrobatics and sudden combat prowess along with Gil not using Ea were all contrived bullshit. Archer returning to save Rin and Shirou was the worst offender. He was already killed, so he should have died.

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mira-nyan said:
They ruined the chant with the subz. D^:
No they didn't. That's the actual translation of the Japanese chant. The English version everyone knows is when they chant in actual Engrish.
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ZeroDragon said:
Absolutely terrible episode. The insufferable shounen idiot was granted an asspull of a last minute powerup and was only able to defeat the best servant because he is the protag who has to win for the sake of the plot. All of those midair acrobatics and sudden combat prowess along with Gil not using Ea were all contrived bullshit. Archer returning to save Rin and Shirou was the worst offender. He was already killed, so he should have died.


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Jun 20, 2015 11:49 AM

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Eniie said:
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Independent Action.

Also, look at pg 2. He only took 4 swords. 3 of them were normal.


Thank you, and what about Shirou using Rhio Aias without ever seeing Archer use it before?

He saw Archer's memories though.
Jun 20, 2015 11:49 AM

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anti-climatic tbh, but at least they played Arata na yoake
Jun 20, 2015 11:50 AM

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Eniie said:
mira-nyan said:


Independent Action.

Also, look at pg 2. He only took 4 swords. 3 of them were normal.


Thank you, and what about Shirou using Rhio Aias without ever seeing Archer use it before?


he saw archer ubw in the church scene and also memories
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They fucking did it! New Dawn remix. Why am I the only one excited for this? That track is WAYY better than EMIYA.

5/5 episode for New Dawn remix alone. It was well executed as a whole, though.


i totally agree...i also was hoping for new dawn to be in this ep and i wasn't dissapointed!
5/5 too
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Eniie said:
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Independent Action.

Also, look at pg 2. He only took 4 swords. 3 of them were normal.


Thank you, and what about Shirou using Rhio Aias without ever seeing Archer use it before?

Archer knowledge entering him and seeing UBW, episode 15/19?
Jun 20, 2015 11:52 AM

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saber got rekted also powerlevel in nasuverse are just rock paper sicciors


My memory on this is hazy, but wasn't Gilgamesh defeating Saber due to using multiple weapons and interchanging them, as well as summoning them whilst fighting. Saber only has the one sword whilst Gilgamesh (despite not being a "wielder") can still use a variety.

Shirou obviously has no problem with this :P.

But I'm probably wrong soeh.


Gilgamesh fought saber in zero??! The only encounter I remember was the one where he was standing beside the grail so saber couldn't use her noble phantasm. That's all right?
Jun 20, 2015 11:53 AM

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ZeroDragon said:
Absolutely terrible episode. The insufferable shounen idiot was granted an asspull of a last minute powerup and was only able to defeat the best servant because he is the protag who has to win for the sake of the plot. All of those midair acrobatics and sudden combat prowess along with Gil not using Ea were all contrived bullshit. Archer returning to save Rin and Shirou was the worst offender. He was already killed, so he should have died.

Nonsensical in the highest degree. How did Emiya Shirou project Rho Aias? He never saw it!
Only included into the show because that hack Nasu couldn't think of a way to get that ginger faker to beat a servant. He would've been cut to shreds if this was a seinen.

Also, apparently Archer can survive being skewered. Why not have best priest show up - if we're pulling comebacks out of thin air? This is soap opera level of ridiculous. Why not just have Rin get pregnant and have Shirou's future self be the father?
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Jun 20, 2015 11:53 AM

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TokonatsuYuu said:
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My memory on this is hazy, but wasn't Gilgamesh defeating Saber due to using multiple weapons and interchanging them, as well as summoning them whilst fighting. Saber only has the one sword whilst Gilgamesh (despite not being a "wielder") can still use a variety.

Shirou obviously has no problem with this :P.

But I'm probably wrong soeh.


Gilgamesh fought saber in zero??! The only encounter I remember was the one where he was standing beside the grail so saber couldn't use her noble phantasm. That's all right?


Oh, I'm referring to the fate route :P
Jun 20, 2015 11:53 AM

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Shirou and his asspulls wins. Makes sense for a protagonist plot.
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Irrelative said:
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I feel bad Gilgamesh died such a pathetic death, he didn't even use Ea.

Pay attention to Gilgamesh in Heaven's Feel. It's his best route. :)

*snrk*
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TokonatsuYuu said:
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My memory on this is hazy, but wasn't Gilgamesh defeating Saber due to using multiple weapons and interchanging them, as well as summoning them whilst fighting. Saber only has the one sword whilst Gilgamesh (despite not being a "wielder") can still use a variety.

Shirou obviously has no problem with this :P.

But I'm probably wrong soeh.


Gilgamesh fought saber in zero??! The only encounter I remember was the one where he was standing beside the grail so saber couldn't use her noble phantasm. That's all right?


Even if you go by anime logic,its clearly stated Gil merely owns all weapons,he will not win in a one on one against a servant who is very good in CQC.Shirou's projection magic is broken anyways >.>
Jun 20, 2015 11:55 AM

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Archer has the smile we want to protect.
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Remove all the sarcastic bullshit and the cringey role-playing and you've got a subforum that's 10 times better and is much easier to navigate. But no, gotta waste everyone's time.
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Wish Gil vs Shirou was a bit longer, and we could have seen Shirou blasting back different kinds of Noble Phantasms Gil is throwing at him as opposed to generic swords. That's the only negative. That and the lack of a hug or something between Shirou and Rin at the end of all that fighting.

Otherwise, it was a perfect penultimate episode.

F/Z fans should be happy with the conclusion of Saber's arc.
Jun 20, 2015 11:56 AM

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I'm waiting to watch it subbed, however I can already see that Ufo delivered :)
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So after re-watching the episode I'd say that seeing Gil getting absolutely rekt was amazing. From his fear, to his hesitation to his smirking, it was all glorious. Seeing Excalibur was beautiful as well no more servants though which is sad.

The ost's and animation was on point as always. Along with great last minute development for Shirou.

This is basically the last episode, don't know why they just didn't make it a double but whatever. Great episode sad that it'll be gone. Just as good as F/Z.
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Shirou and his asspulls wins. Makes sense for a protagonist plot.

What was an asspull about Shirou's win? The anime clearly stated why he won accordingly.
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Remove all the sarcastic bullshit and the cringey role-playing and you've got a subforum that's 10 times better and is much easier to navigate. But no, gotta waste everyone's time.


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laidellent said:
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Gilgamesh fought saber in zero??! The only encounter I remember was the one where he was standing beside the grail so saber couldn't use her noble phantasm. That's all right?


Even if you go by anime logic,its clearly stated Gil merely owns all weapons,he will not win in a one on one against a servant who is very good in CQC.Shirou's projection magic is broken anyways >.>


So gil's weakness is cqc?
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