Gatchaman Crowds Episode 6 Discussion

dekopinn said:
So no one but me seriously ships Hajime and Sugane?

Well okay.

JusticeSoulTuna said:


Exactly. You pinpointed my biggest problem with her; she's too perfect. Too happy go lucky, pretty moe and 'I know everything and all my decisions are correct and judgements are sound', which is usually the type of character that bothers me the most especially when they're not well balanced. A lot of people in the forum did however point out that's she's smart sure but she's not some omniscient being who's infallible. Yet the lack of ANY kind of context, reasoning or back story to her actions makes her perfect attitude very suffocating. See, I don't hate her and she doesn't annoy me as much as she could. But for a main character I could care less about her. Rui interests me INFINITELY more, cross dressing and all. Rui's got the right idea but relies too heavily on his idealism and doesn't see the bigger picture, cause he puts too much faith in human altruism. I get that Hajime believes that Gatchaman are needed to protect people and she did mention that 'you can't always trust the internet blindly' (yet another perfect bit of foreshadowing from her...) but it's also kinda bs since to this episode she's pretty much done NOTHING Gatchaman-like at all. I dunno, everyone on the forums seems to love her unconditionally and that's fine. But hey, don't expect me to drink the kool aid :p

ToG25thBaam said:
+1 pretty much summed up the issues I have with her. She be like "I do whatever I want yet I am still in the right", and that's annoying. I can't wait for something to actually prove her wrong for once, and change the way she does things. I thought she was pretty unique as a character at first, but as time passes I see that she's just a loudmouth, except not as dumb as she looks.

Goku said:
Load's logic is, "We can't rely on people with superpowers, because the general public will depend on them and become stagnant."

Well I don't know about you load, but to me it seems you're going directly against your own ideals by using the blue frog looking things. Can't tell if it is a character flaw, or the author completely forgot.

JusticeSoulTuna said:


Mhm. I won't spoil anything, but that's pretty much her character. It's frustrating, cause her design is charming and it's nice that she's not an airhead. But she's the opposite extreme entirely

Tulicloure said:

It's not that she simply is always right. Hajime's strenght is that she actually thinks and considers before coming to conclusions and acting. That, in turn, leads to her being right most of the times, but not out of nowhere. By taking her time to actually ask questions and think for her self, she comes to conclusions that are more often right than those of the other heroes. This becomes specially noticeable when compared to the way some of the other characters work in the beginning of the series:

Rui is too blinded by her idealism.
Sugane follows rules and commands without questioning.
Joe has a hero complex and tries to end problems before giving them to much thought.
Paiman is too scared to make decisions of his own.

It doesn't mean she's perfect, though. As someone has already mentioned in this thread, her communication skills are lacking. So even if she is able to figure things out, her teammates aren't always able to follow her explanations. This can easily lead to complications, specially in situations where quick understanding of what is being said is needed.

Another problem this method brings is that she can't always respond to everything that happens as soon as possible. She stops and think about it first. For better or for worse, characters like Sugane and Joe are able to act much quicker.

I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as possible, but here are some general things that can be seen in future episodes/seasons:

JusticeSoulTuna said:


That's a fair way of looking at it, and a good analysis overall. My issue isn't that I can't see it that way, my issue is that to even feel comfortable with her character, I have to do that extrapolation in the first place. Personally, i've reached a point in entertainment where if a character's being isn't apparent or fully fleshed out within how the character is conveyed on screen, then having to justify them in my mind only makes me feel sour. Cause I want to like characters as they are, but that's hard to do when they're so unrelatable.

I appreciate your perspective, because it does shed light on her (especially in the second season, which I refused to watch mainly cause I didn't like her). However when I like characters, I like appreciating them at surface level first, seeing their depth within the anime, and then digging deeper afterwards. But the lack of any visible consequence for Hajime was frustrating to the point of apathy, and no justifications would do it for me, sadly.

IceOfDarkness said:
Damn, Hajime was really annoying this episode... was marathoning pretty fine but this finally pushed me to drop the show.

I'll probably try again another time in hopes that something happens that will prove her wrong and knock her down a peg.

migohunter said:
I love how subtly Hajime pointed out the irony in Rui's statement of the world having no need for heroes by mentioning CROWDS.

Hajime is actually really smarter than she looks.