| Nah guy, the only thing hurting is my sides from laughing too hard. TPN S2 can go straight to hell. It started off as peak horror and then devolved into literally friendship is magic. Pacing & the slideshow were only part of it, but the ultimate problem with this season is that it shifts the tone from one of the darkest premises imaginable into mere child's play. The first season made the notion of outwitting one adult nearly impossible and now we have 6 year olds tackling armed soldiers and 10 year olds beating demon guards unconscious with metal pipes. I hope the score tanks and surpasses Pupa because it belongs in total squalor. |
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| It really deserved to be a 5.59 rating tbh I really hate when the anime is not faithful to it's source. |
| This show underwent some extremely terrible pacing towards the end of the season, I'm just going to assume you haven't watched til the end yet, because I will say that the beginning was very entertaining |
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| I didn't read the manga, just watched the anime, but I have to say S2 felt less well constructed and very rushed. The Norman plot was waaaay zo confusing and too short, and the ending gave me nothing, it told offscreen what we would have liked to see on screen, it showed characters that were never introduced, it simply failed to deliver the story. And the animation of the giant beasts bothered me. |
| The Gods and Demons you fear and worship are as nothing to me! |
| I was hella looking forward to this too. If they needed more time then they should've just gone for a S3 next time. You can never understand Japan. |
| They skipped the best arc. Shame on them |
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| did you watch the final episode? where they summed up the entire lore in a 3 minute slideshow? how do you watch that and can still think that its Not bad |
| Wait, people really think S2 is good? Even in the manga many people thought it went to shit when it changes genres, from psychological battle to battle shounen. To add on to that they literally speed run through 100 chapters in 11 episodes+1 filler to give us a finale. |
| There are too many things that went wrong and some are just unacceptable, at least for someone who loved season 1 (I was still anime only at that point). Sure, I've read manga and I didn't like they were going anime original but I accepted that and was looking forward what they'll do and maybe fix some problems manga had. But no: - "anime original" - what a joke - they just ripped essential moments off the manga and twisted them to their liking so it made no sense - character development destroyed - nobody acted the way their character was built in s1, highly intelligent kids made decisions that made no sense and put them in danger without any reason - Emma's idealism was taken to extreme - everybody blindly follows her, even villains who wanted to commit genocide a minute ago, just because friendship is magic - first few eps were fine but then whole pacing went to shit, instead of developing the story we get half an episode of daily life of children that contributes to nothing - everything is too convenient so childrden can safely fix the problem - character plot armor - everyone is safe and uncertainity from first season disappers, you don't have reason to fear for character's lives - no weapons - so eating kids from s1 is fine but children with rifles are not?, they had no chance of surviving without ammo (they had guns in manga and it worked well) but oh well... plot armor - final slideshow of what could have been - they might not have a big budget but at least don't show what could have been to watchers, it's gonna make them pissed - rather don't include it at all That being said, I'm still pissed they cut off the best part of story after Escape arc but it could still be decent. But I refuse to forgive something that has worse plot than a kid's show (even those have some consequences and there are deaths) and its whole premise stands on game of wits which was dumbed down to nothing. And don't put all the blame on manga readers, try to understand that they have a big reason to be pissed. Even if you liked the show, you have to admit some of the points people made were valid. |
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| > Pacing so bad that it's impressive > Fucking powerpoint presentation of the manga's key moments > Emma using talk no jutsu to stop Norman > Characters turned to shit > Skipping like 100+ chapters from the manga. |
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| The season is simply garbage and thats all there is to it |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
Crasyhead said: Vendea said: There are too many things that went wrong and some are just unacceptable, at least for someone who loved season 1 (I was still anime only at that point). Sure, I've read manga and I didn't like they were going anime original but I accepted that and was looking forward what they'll do and maybe fix some problems manga had. But no: - "anime original" - what a joke - they just ripped essential moments off the manga and twisted them to their liking so it made no sense - character development destroyed - nobody acted the way their character was built in s1, highly intelligent kids made decisions that made no sense and put them in danger without any reason - Emma's idealism was taken to extreme - everybody blindly follows her, even villains who wanted to commit genocide a minute ago, just because friendship is magic - first few eps were fine but then whole pacing went to shit, instead of developing the story we get half an episode of daily life of children that contributes to nothing - everything is too convenient so childrden can safely fix the problem - character plot armor - everyone is safe and uncertainity from first season disappers, you don't have reason to fear for character's lives - no weapons - so eating kids from s1 is fine but children with rifles are not?, they had no chance of surviving without ammo (they had guns in manga and it worked well) but oh well... plot armor - final slideshow of what could have been - they might not have a big budget but at least don't show what could have been to watchers, it's gonna make them pissed - rather don't include it at all That being said, I'm still pissed they cut off the best part of story after Escape arc but it could still be decent. But I refuse to forgive something that has worse plot than a kid's show (even those have some consequences and there are deaths) and its whole premise stands on game of wits which was dumbed down to nothing. And don't put all the blame on manga readers, try to understand that they have a big reason to be pissed. Even if you liked the show, you have to admit some of the points people made were valid. I'm not saying that people are wrong to be mad of what was made. What i'm asking is why people went so over board on the ranking getting it nearly 10k compared to what other things are out there with better ranking this show should not be this bad ranked. I can see like everyone else that things did not go as it should have meaning we needed more episodes and seasons to get more story/info and with that the pacing would have ben better and cut content would have ben in the anime. But people seem to miss the part that they only had 11 episodes to put as much story and information into it and with that results content getting cut and the pacing needs to pick up so we can get as much story as we can get in 11 episodes. And ofc that was a bad move to only get 11 episodes to finish the rest of the story and we should have had a 3rd or 4th season to finish it off but we only got 11 episodes to get the job done in. So looking at the fact that there was a time limit with the amount of episodes i think they did an okay job with the little time they had. Could it have ben done better? ofc it could but in the end we need to look at it for what had to be done to get it done and not what it could/should have ben to start with and for that reason i feel it the should have a better ranking then nearly 10k when you look at does facts and what else is out there with better ranking I agree they didn't have enough space but they could still edit the pacing, not include hints at what could have been and just focus on Norman x Isabella arc and end it that way (or simply think up another ending) or just simply adapt Goldy Pond and finish at that. No ending would work better and fans would be happier because Goldy Pond still has mind games and action that first season had, plus we get insight into demon society way more. TG:re 2nd season had a very similar story - most of the manga material was cut off to the point watchers didn't understand what was going on and there had to be someone explaining what's happening but producers at least went with character's personalities and didn't change it. We still have to have in mind that first season was one of the best anime of its year and is very highly praised so of course people would be disappointed after brilliant s1. It's pretty obvious that money went to Wonder Egg Priority and not Neverland. |
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| Never read the manga but I will after this. I felt so lost, like I got dropped in the middle of a completely new story. I felt like I didn't even know who Emma was or any of the other characters. Completely unengaging. Btw, stop fighting people for their opinions lol unfortunately, overall this season was messy. Fact. So it will be in the low ranks. Yes there's worse anime out there. You can still love this even though the rating is abysmally low. |
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| Lol, imagine thinking that just because they didn't have time or enough episodes to make something that would have been better that people shouldn't be allowed to rate it poorly. Sorry but it doesn't matter what happens behind the scenes to get this anime out and to the public. Nobody is or should be rating based on that, they should be rating the product itself lmao. If the product comes out shit then its shit, doesn't matter what led them to creating that shit, that shit is still shit. |
| Ok let's pick this apart! Crasyhead said: Clearly you have not ben reading what i have ben saying as if you did you would know that i'm not backing the people up that made the show and even say myself that it was not an amazing show but it is not a total shit show either that most people seem to say it is. Maybe not every reply but sadly I have wasted my time reading some of what you've been saying and it was unfair of me to assume you would argue the less stupid of the points (not saying the other point was much better anyway xd) This literally just comes down to "my opinion isn't the other sides opinion" or in this case not as strong as the other sides opinion. People have their own thoughts about this anime shocker. Some people probably even thought this was a 10 others a 1. And there are various reasons as to why some people could have come to their conclusion. Regardless the rating seems fine and fair for this one anyway, doesn't seem to be brigaded into the abyss, just tons of unhappy fans (not all manga people either) Crasyhead said: I'm not a fan of the show but i still think it is unfair to the show to shit on it so hard because it did not go the way people wanted it to go. Now that's not saying it was a job well done making it but at least there is a show here that's telling you the story maybe not in the best way but it's not in a total garbage way either. I mean not in a total garbage way to you maybe, but to others oh yes it was. You may have different things you value in an anime than other people that keep you from truly hating this series and while that's fine and all, but if you can't understand why some people would really dislike this, especially after coming off a strong s1 then there are some other issues going on in the background. Personally from what I value in an anime this one didn't really tick off any of the checkboxes so it was pretty hard giving this anything higher than a 3. Crasyhead said: Had they only slowed down the pace put cut stuff in and gave more info/story over more episodes/seasons people would not be this harsh on it. Darn if only they would have had a good pacing you know one of the most important things in storytelling that can make or break a story then people wouldn't have thought so poorly of it. Can you imagine it having this thing it didn't have that would have salvaged some of the story? xd Crasyhead said: My point is even though it might not have ben great and no way near what it should have ben there is still a story here worth a better ranking then what it has. Still a story here worth a better ranking??? according to who? the god of objectivity? Crasyhead said: And again that's not saying it was great but compared to other stuff out there with better ranking it was better then some of does for sure. So the real issue is more that MAL doesn't rate the way you think they should. Stop looking at the overall score and just ignore it lul. Overall ranking is not a good indicator of anything. Look at individuals' scores, if you can't see why someone would give this a 4 or below like I said earlier there are other issues at hand. Technically I guess if you do want to look at overall score, this thing is sitting in the 5's which is technically average and honestly a more than fair score considering how many people consider this season bad which bad should be considered a 4 or below but if you are comparing it to other anime you deem worse than this but are sitting at a 6 or above that's where you went wrong. In conclusion stop paying attention to MALs meme score. |
| I don't get why you say that TPN should be cut some slack because it was rushed. I'll cut the animators and studio executives some slack, they probably had zero say in what they were going to adapt and got the short end of the stick. But under the pressure of making a rushed package, S2 crumbled. If I had known that they were going to cut out massive chunks of the manga, I would've gone in a lot more skeptical. But even when I was clarified that they had made massive deviations from the source material, I went into the fourth episode onwards with hope that they could do it right. If they managed to patch up everything without things feeling rushed, I would've cut S2 some slack. But they spent an entire episode giving exposition that could've easily lasted an entire season unraveling in of itself. From then on, it was a straight chore to get through, and I literally stopped watching the final episode so I could preserve some things unspoiled. Just in the hopes that some other studio will pick up TPN a few years later and do what should've been done. Hell, I liked how S1 ended, I could've gone my entire life without knowing what came next. TL;DR Under the circumstances of having to rush and cut out entire volumes, TPN still turned out bad. If they had done a good job given the scenario the studio was in, I would've rated a little bit more positively, maybe. But they didn't, IN MY OPINION (I cannot stress that enough). |
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Crasyhead said: I don't get it what so ever why people are so hurt in the ass about S2. What is the problem here? why do you hate it so much? No way in hell should this show be in the 9000s ranking. I thought the show was doing a fine job of telling a story. But let me guess its because (it's not like the manga) so i need to throw a hissy fit. Many shows even none animated ones are not always like the book ect but that does not mean it's a bad show it just means it's not what you might expect. Yes it might be wired and stupid why it's not the same seeing as it took the material and made it into a tv show but your only hurt because you had expectations about (how it should be) and not what it could be. No i did not read the materiale that was used to make it so no i don't know how it should have ben but i can clearly see that it started and ended just fine even without me knowing that. So what is the problem people? are you just ass hurt that it's not like the manga or is it something else? Update: I agree with a lot of you people that it was a messy season and it could have used a 3rd or 4th season to give it more story/info and not be in such a rush to get it done and cut things from the story ect. But i still feel people have ben abit to crazy with the ranking considering they needed to put as much as they could and give it a ending in only 11 episodes. So when you look at it in that way i feel it should not be where it is on the ranking. No it was not an amazing show or close to what season 1 was and could have ben so much more with more screen time. But for what it is it should still have a better ranking when you compare it to other things out there with better ranking then this. P.S thank you all for the nice chats :) well as u said people loved S1 and they including me were expecting one more amazing season specially after I read the manga. I was waiting for those amazing arcs to be animated but what we got Is defined as pure shit. as anime only it was more shit cause some people doesnt even understood wtf was the ending....at least they could have end it well....but no they created this ****. if u like it there is no problem some people even gave it a 10..... but According to me it should be around 6 and yes the hate it is reciving is what it deserved..... |
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