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| I think Texhnolyze has a pretty decent following considering how niche and unconventional it is. It's never gonna appeal to a broad audience, but it does hold significant recognition in some circles. Sure, it's lesser known to an extent. I don't think it's as much as you make it sound, though. I haven't finished the show myself, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt I suppose. I honestly couldn't get into it at all. I can still identify what people might see in it, but it just wasn't for me. I've seen and liked many anime in the similar vain, so perhaps it was my mood at the time that hindered my experience. That said, it's definitely not a show for everyone. It's extremely nihilistic, slow, and downright depressing to the point it's nearly unbearable. I don't wanna say I was bored watching Texhnolyze, but I certainly wasn't invested in any way. It's lacking in the visual department as well compared to something like Lain and Ergo Proxy. Unless someone really loves having an unrelenting bombardment of despair washing over them, I wouldn't recommend it. I'm also not a fan of Hiroshi Hamasaki. Steins;Gate is the only one of his works I actually liked, but that was a while ago. I think most of the shows he's had significant involvement in are terrible like Deimos, Darkside Blues, and Bio Hunter. He doesn't strike me as a particularly strong director either. His episodes of Space Dandy and Paranoia Agent were passable, Iron Man: Rise of Technovore is one of the worst anime movies I've seen, Shigurui falls apart in its second half, the couple episodes of Orange I've seen were terrible, and Terra Formars was even worse. Idk, I don't see much in the guy. |
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| I hate Texhnolyze. Everything about it just felt miserable to watch I'd say the show has a very elitist reputation, and whether you agree with that or not, I think the reason for that is primarily because it is ultimately an extremely niche anime. It has a target audience, but it's not very big. So going out to try to pursuade more people to watch it is very likely to backfire if you ask me |
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N1eR said: the world literally gets ruined and every main character dies and you are saying it has no tension... it lacks interesting dialogue? how? what about Yoshii and Shinji talking about freedom? Yoshii mercy kills a whore, Doc kills herself because nobody wants her and shes useless, guy had to sleep with his own father, Ichise took revenge... and you are saying it has no drama... Ichise saving Ran? Yoshii sparking a light in humanity, for them to not go extinct... and you are saying there is nothing to look forward to... anyway, it is all about meaninglessness, there should not be more for viewers to look forward to... fair enough, but at least I asked how you would make it more enjoyable D: and that guy was not just crawling. He legit never seen anything good in his life and he still wanted to live and was trying to survive. Texhnolyze is drama, but is not melodrama. This is why the drama is not very visible. There are no guys shouting their opponents names before their attack. There are no girls creaming. There is no visual despair on the faces of protagonists, etc. The drama in Tex is much more suble, happening mostly on the inside of the characters. HaXXspetten said: I'd say the show has a very elitist reputation, and whether you agree with that or not, I think the reason for that is primarily because it is ultimately an extremely niche anime. It is niche, so it is elitist? What kind of argument is that... |
RandomFriday said: Well you certainly see quite a lot of people referring to it as such. Not that I think it's really worth paying attention to. "Elitist" is just a buzzword these days that people tag on to stuff they want to label as bad without having to provide any real explanation, kind of like how people use "edgy" or "generic" in similar waysHaXXspetten said: I'd say the show has a very elitist reputation, and whether you agree with that or not, I think the reason for that is primarily because it is ultimately an extremely niche anime. It is niche, so it is elitist? What kind of argument is that... |
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| No. People should not watch Texhnolyze |
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| Still one of my least favorite anime if am being honest. I can usually sit through a wide variety of genres pacing styles and the like, and I even enjoy nihilistic themes in my shows, but Tex felt like a waste of time during 90% of my viewing. I have never felt so little to want to finish it. I only finished it because I honestly wanted to know why several of my friends were saying it was extremely good. Oh and because I love Abe's character designs, but compared to other slow-paced and hard to get into series such as Lain, Haibane Renmei, or heck even parts of Wolfs Rain I could just never understand how people can really like this series. |
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| Only watch it if you like characters that are ugly as fuck. Which I don’t. |
HaXXspetten said: if you read my comments you can see i haven't persuaded a single person to go out of their way and watch the show I hate Texhnolyze. Everything about it just felt miserable to watch I'd say the show has a very elitist reputation, and whether you agree with that or not, I think the reason for that is primarily because it is ultimately an extremely niche anime. It has a target audience, but it's not very big. So going out to try to pursuade more people to watch it is very likely to backfire if you ask me |
N1eR said: Hrybami said: It would be enjoyable if it had some drama, some tension, some interesting dialogue, something to look forward to... Because the only somewhat enjoyable episode come after 18 episodes of the least enjoyable episode I've seen. Again, I like the show for what it is, but it's definitely not something I enjoyed watching. But in the end, we all have different definition of enjoyment so I'd not be surprised if you genuinely enjoyed watching a guy crawling for 20 minutes. the world literally gets ruined and every main character dies and you are saying it has no tension... it lacks interesting dialogue? how? what about Yoshii and Shinji talking about freedom? Yoshii mercy kills a whore, Doc kills herself because nobody wants her and shes useless, guy had to sleep with his own father, Ichise took revenge... and you are saying it has no drama... Ichise saving Ran? Yoshii sparking a light in humanity, for them to not go extinct... and you are saying there is nothing to look forward to... anyway, it is all about meaninglessness, there should not be more for viewers to look forward to... fair enough, but at least I asked how you would make it more enjoyable D: and that guy was not just crawling. He legit never seen anything good in his life and he still wanted to live and was trying to survive. You can put it that way if you want. Nonetheless, the show appeared purposedly dull and everything looked like it's for nothing. Because hopelessness is the theme of the show. They did it well, it's just not enjoyable to watch in any way. I remember I couldn't watch more than one episode a day because it sucked all my vitality. Or maybe I'm just wrong all along and I should rewatch it since I've not watched it for years. |
N1eR said: Calal-Chan said: Still one of my least favorite anime if am being honest. I can usually sit through a wide variety of genres pacing styles and the like, and I even enjoy nihilistic themes in my shows, but Tex felt like a waste of time during 90% of my viewing. I have never felt so little to want to finish it. I only finished it because I honestly wanted to know why several of my friends were saying it was extremely good. Oh and because I love Abe's character designs, but compared to other slow-paced and hard to get into series such as Lain, Haibane Renmei, or heck even parts of Wolfs Rain I could just never understand how people can really like this series. https://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=248815 and IDK how can you like Haibane more Pretty simple fantastic ost great world-building interesting mystery really good sound design and the main theme it really explores is a focus on redemption based around suicide/depression. Which I haven't seen a show handle better than Haibane. |
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| Texhnolyze is fucking dogshit. If it tastes an anime 7 episodes to get even remotely interesting, aka roughly 2 hours of your time then something is wrong. |
| It doesn’t appeal to me in any way, shape, or form. Plus the anime’s designs look like dogshit compared to Abe Yoshitoshi’s designs. |
N1eR said: Hrybami said: You can put it that way if you want. Nonetheless, the show appeared purposedly dull and everything looked like it's for nothing. Because hopelessness is the theme of the show. They did it well, it's just not enjoyable to watch in any way. I remember I couldn't watch more than one episode a day because it sucked all my vitality. Or maybe I'm just wrong all along and I should rewatch it since I've not watched it for years. It is exactly whar RandomFriday said, it is not dull, just subtle and it will appear dull if you have not paid attention. I do understand that not everyone can watch Texhnolyze, but that is noway a show's problem, because artistic pieces are not made to be "enjoyable". And just because it does not care about enjoyment, it can fully explore its themes in mere 22 episodes, stuff like One Piece can remain superficial even after 900 episodes. Calal-Chan said: Pretty simple fantastic ost great world-building interesting mystery really good sound design and the main theme it really explores is a focus on redemption based around suicide/depression. Which I haven't seen a show handle better than Haibane. idk, characters were just running around or/and crying. then randomly something would appear and suddenly "redeem" characters. it made no sense. Idk man all people do in tex is grunt and cry and dispair. It makes no sense because than randomly people would just murder people. Why are you so upset that I don't like tex XD |
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N1eR said: Hrybami said: You can put it that way if you want. Nonetheless, the show appeared purposedly dull and everything looked like it's for nothing. Because hopelessness is the theme of the show. They did it well, it's just not enjoyable to watch in any way. I remember I couldn't watch more than one episode a day because it sucked all my vitality. Or maybe I'm just wrong all along and I should rewatch it since I've not watched it for years. It is exactly whar RandomFriday said, it is not dull, just subtle and it will appear dull if you have not paid attention. I do understand that not everyone can watch Texhnolyze, but that is noway a show's problem, because artistic pieces are not made to be "enjoyable". And just because it does not care about enjoyment, it can fully explore its themes in mere 22 episodes, stuff like One Piece can remain superficial even after 900 episodes. Calal-Chan said: Pretty simple fantastic ost great world-building interesting mystery really good sound design and the main theme it really explores is a focus on redemption based around suicide/depression. Which I haven't seen a show handle better than Haibane. idk, characters were just running around or/and crying. then randomly something would appear and suddenly "redeem" characters. it made no sense. Well then you said it yourself. This show doesn't care about entertainment. Actually, the show can be the most thought-provoking show ever, if it's done dull, then it will remain dull. Perhaps you still find pleasure in this and I accept that. But you have to admit that this show isn't a source of unstoppable fun. While One Piece is about meaningless fun, Texhnolyze is about no fun whatsoever. |
N1eR said: Calal-Chan said: Idk man all people do in tex is grunt and cry and dispair. It makes no sense because than randomly people would just murder people. Why are you so upset that I don't like tex XD cuz its unfair! D: what's wrong with despair, its amazing ;D and I explained in previous posts that they did more than that. Yoshii baited an ideological war in the first half, people saw their future in the second half and got insane and etc. it's not random D: I was just mimicking what you said about Haibane because it is clearly not just what you said. (you would literally have to be ignoring name themeing foreshadowing and character growth to think that about Haibane) You can see why that would be a shallow argument considering I don't even think of Tex that way lol. |
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N1eR said: Calal-Chan said: I was just mimicking what you said about Haibane because it is clearly not just what you said. (you would literally have to be ignoring name themeing foreshadowing and character growth to think that about Haibane) You can see why that would be a shallow argument considering I don't even think of Tex that way lol. oh, I have not said anything about them not growing. I just said that the stuff that served as catalyst of their growth, was coming in show out-of-nowhere. I mean I could just use your argument and say that it is subtle lol. Because it isn't out of nowhere. You really were not paying attention to all the foreshadowing. Not to mention I could link you a review describing why it is so great, but that adds nothing lol. You are also missing the entirety of my first point. Which was I can enjoy slow-paced shows that have subtle world-building some dark themes and whatnot. But Tex itself just didn't work for me. |
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| @N1eR Hey. I rewatched couple parts of Texhnolyze over the last days. I dig the atmosphere. As I said in other posts I watched it like 2 years ago and just remembered the most basic ingredients and that I haven't got it and liked it. I like Cyberpunk stuff. I liked Blade Runner for example. I thought Texhnolyze was kinda bulky and too complex but I think I can say I like it's surrealism and atmosphere. |
MySweetLuciferJan 27, 2020 5:10 AM
N1eR said: very sweet boy" that's something only Misato would say;D I mean, I am not saying that he is bad, just mediocre. He whines about stuff, gets depressed and it may seem realistic, but he did not have enough situations to showcase how did he became like that (Gendo is an unfleshed out cunt and what was the problem with his other relatives? and etc) and his every arc feels the same, his development is basically going nowhere up until he has a sudden epiphany and that is where the story ends. "congratulations" is just in his mind, actual events were not happy, so it is not reasonable to call it "the one of the happiest" just because of his mind. How did they spell hope for a harsh world, though? D: by that logic, Texh is also pretty happy, because people there were still trying to survive, despite the meaningless world. Difference is, that Ichise suddenly was not granted godly powers to re-materialize humanity. We only got a flashback from Ichise's past back when his father and mother died so not having actually seen how Shinji (and well, Ichise) became like that is hardly a criticism. We only know them as they're now. What happens outside Shinji's mind on the TV ending hardly matters, really. We're literally only shown some raw drafts. What's important is Shinji understanding that he has the right to exist and do as he pleases - and that's a very happy thing. It's a very sudden conclusion that isn't worked out very well but emotionally-wise it does the job for me. I pretty much cry everytime EoE's case is very different from Texhnolyze. Tex isn't exactly negative since Ichise finds fulfilment in his death even when everything went wrong. He returned Ran to earth to reborn as Rafia and died peacefully knowing he did what he believed he should have done. But he is dead and failed to stop the destruction of human race as we know it. Now in EoE sure the world got wrecked but there's a fundamental difference: there's hope for a new beginning. Shinji decides to come back and has that dialogue with his mother about as long as the sun and the stars being there there'll always be a way. He decided that life's worth living just like in the TV series, and differently from Tex he has a life to live together with Asuka and the others that might come back then explain what was that bird that the girl saw while she was in a well and why would it forgive her. Without "symbolism" excuse, of course. Felt like they were fixing their conditions way too fast. since the very beginning of Haibane the birds are shown to be looking at Rakka, so there's the foreshadowing. in the 4th (i think) episode there's a beautiful sequence where she is told that the Birds are the only creatures able to pass through the walls, so you're supposed to do a link between these creatures and both worlds. When she's at ther worst the birds appear again and guide her to the corpse of a bird that's supposed to be someone who tried to help her in her previous life but failed to |
llorandoJan 27, 2020 7:01 PM
Null-dust said: genuinely having that conversation with a good friend rn who is begging me for recommendations lol When I'm asked what's my favorite anime and I tell them it's Texhnolyze.I always have to say I won't blame them if they down right hate it or find it boring. Lots of people find Blade runner boring and I still love that movie to death. It's slow, its bleak and it ends with a gut punch. All these things are why I love it. |
RandomFriday said: Shutos said: Texhonlyze is easily in my opinion, one of the most underrated and undervalued pieces of art I've ever come across I like Texhnolyze, but I don't think it is underrated/undervalued. It is a niche show. Not all people want to watch depressing/nihilistic shows. Another thing people need to finally understand that your opinion is not opinion of the masses. If you think something is "underrated" it doesn't mean it really is. The majority of people think otherwise. Anyway, Tehx rating is 7.7 which is well above average. 7.7 is not above average if we're talking about MAL standards. People who say this anime is a waste of time are just lazy people. Only 8 episodes in and I already believe that this anime is a masterpiece, and I hate saying the word "masterpiece". Yes, more people that can deal with not being spoonfed plot points should watch this. |
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| Just finished watching this and it was amazing would only recommend to people who are open into watching something different than they would normally watch. |
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BABYODA said: it isn't soul crushing, its nihilistic. if you dont find any enjoyment or value in artistic portrayals of nihilism then you're probably wasting your time. if you're just looking for something "edgy or depressing" this probably isn't for you, because it has much more meaning I'm watching the anime, episode 12 now and Im wondering what's so soul crushing as they say. |
jc9622 said: Tried it because a lot of people were saying it's good. I gave the first 3 episodes a shot and I ended up dropping it. It was BORING AF! I don't care if it gets better later on but I only have a limited amount of free time and I want to make sure I enjoy every second of those. If you dedicate your free time to enjoyment, then I definitely understand you dropping this. This show requires you to think if you want to get anything out of it other than slow pacing, dark, confusing, and crushing themes. |
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| It’s my all-time favorite anime, and I watch a variety of genres. It’s so dark and depressing but ultimately I haven’t come across a medium that has portrayed nihilism in such a way like . . . I can’t even describe it. Some people call out the anime as pretentious or has too many overlooming concepts. I didn’t think of it in this way. I thought the message and concepts were a lot more simpler and broader than what people had interpreted. And this allows for many different explanations and theories, which I think is fine. For example, the whole arc behind the surface, I thought it was beautifully portrayed. Basically, the whole zeitgeist here is that this place would be the ideal habitat to live in. No violence, steady lives, blocked off from Lux - ideal right? But no, it turns out to be void of livelihood. There was 0 struggle, no fight to survive, just boring mundane day-to-days. So at what point would these people be considered living? Most anime structures are like a rollercoaster: you have highs and lows. In texhnolyze it just goes low, low, and low. Until the very end I felt at ease with Ichise’s death. Something about it was melancholy but satisfying enough. 10/10 masterpiece in my book, but I will never watch it again due to how dark and depressing it is. |
USAS12 said: you are obviously braindead please don't type in my forum Daniel_Naumov said: Why should anyone see anything? Is there an incentive? A biological urge? A natural attraction? The culmination of reason? If I personally were interested in that, I would be watching U.S.A. news daily. betting money this guy supports auth ethno Israel while calling the USA a train wreck while being subservient... protip: anime is fantasy, if you dont like it, dont watch it. sheesh |
| Texhnolyze has to be one of the most boring anime ever. Just a ton of breathing and mumbling. Wtf |
| This thread was amazing to read. 10/10 thread |
loli_guy said: thanks glad you thought so c:This thread was amazing to read. 10/10 thread |
| Yes. Ordinary plebes don't understand its message. |
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