Bakuon!! Episode 1 Discussion

Yamada2 said:
This was more hilarious than I expected lol. Sakura started off as one of those annoying stupid MCs. Seriously, she was acting like an elementary schooler while on her way to high school. But she quickly became a fun girl. Now I don't hate her as much as I did in the first few minutes lol. Curly haired girl was finding reasons to convince Sakura that bike riding is awesome and the creepy helmet senpai just took her on a bike ride. That was the best way to convince her.

Lol the talking Honda bike. That was funny. "Treat your bike like you would treat a man" Lol.

What was up with all the Suzuki hate? I am not a bike lover so I don't know. Is Suzuki really that bad or do these fellows just hate Suzuki that much? Although they kinda made up for it with that logo placement

This had a lot of fun moments. Even though I don't know the slightest thing about motorcycles, this is a keeper.

alvenzo95 said:

P.S. Oh and if this show is used to promote motorcycle culture in Japan, I fear for the future of motorcycle culture.

RasberryKisses said:


It's obvious you are not a fan of SoL/CGDCT and don't know why people like the genre ether, real quetion is why did you pick it up in the first place? and then complain on the forums. This anime is not hiding anything, it's exactly what it appears. Classical SoL with cute girls and comedy. This type of anime does not need conflicts or shocks , it doesn't need much plot ether. The anime has to offer exactly what it's sets out to offer. Cute Girls Doing Cute Things.

ernietheracefan said:

Japanese bikers aren't that stupid, I believe..

Objurgo said:




K-on does not have that excuse because there have already been many, many shows before it of the same nature. But then again, there really isn't much you can do with the moe slice of life trope. It doesn't really go far. K-on is hardly about music. Tamura Hitose is kind of willy nilly from what I've seen. And Lucky star is just gag humor that doesn't go anywhere. Knowing that this is a moe/sol/com. You should have know from the start what this was going to be like even in the slightest sense. I don't really know why you would pick it up in the first place considering you don't seem to like either of the two things this show is presenting us with.. It isn't going to go anywhere deep and eye opening. There isn't going to be a huge conflict between the characters. That's just what these kinds of shows are. K-on does this exact thing! From painfully stupid MC, to big boobed blonde and an almost complete lack of any real story. These three things are literally copy and pasted between K-on, Lucky star and this show.

This show has literally just started. The characters have only just been introduced to us. I have no Idea how you expect good character development to be presented to us in the span of 20 or so minutes, without a complete info dump. If you've read the manga and didn't like, just drop the show then. It's not that hard lol. I agree that the main girl is an idiot. I don't like her at all either.

I believe someone posted a picture showing that the girls are meant to loosely be based off the Top Gear crew. Which I can't help but agree with considering that the club leader is a carbon copy of the Stig from mutenss to amazing driving ability. And Onsa's strong opinions on certain brands and makes. And that Suzunoki butts heads with her.

I don't really know what that was either. They may have been intending to show us what kind of rider Suzunoki is, or that it's always important to wear armour, it was definitely kind of out there. But I've seen people eat shit in the practice course many many times, one person I was learning with didn't lean enough and went to fast on a corner, he flew out of the training spot, this was only on second gear on a 125 mind you... It's not anything new, but I understand what you mean :P

I can't tell if they could've done a better job or not because the show just started, so there really isn't a point in even arguing that, unless you're so hung up about that you're willing to go through most of the manga. Which it seems to that you are considering you have already done so.. I'm really just in it for the motorcycle trivia and the "OMG THAT'S SO TRUE!" moments in the end, which I felt when they were talking about riding in the rain, or that Ducati's break down a lot, that you have to be an idiot to want to ride in the first place xD

As soon as I saw that this was a thing I knew a lot of people weren't going to be into it. I and hopefully other riders watching this are just in it for the motorcycle fanservice. And from seeing the OVA and this first episode, that just seems like what this show is aiming for

alvenzo95 said:


Ummm, dunno what makes you say that...

Clannad, Toradora, Space Brothers, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Mushishi, Silver Spoon, Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo, all of these I absolutely love and are all SoL.

CGDCT in particular I don't think I've seen thaat many or that I have that much experience with them , though I've seen parts Hidamari Sketch, Azumanga Daioh and Lucky Star. And, I really like those, I need to go back and properly rewatch/reread those. And for the most part all SoL have elements of CGDCT, so it's not that I don't like it per se, it's just this anime in particular i don't like.

Cuz even if an anime is CGDCT, it should at LEAST have ONE of these things:
1) intersting, somewhat unique characters
2) a unique plot or, at least interesting elements added to a more generic plot that manage to make it interesting
3)good writing and execution

Oh and by good I mean 6/10 in at least one of those categories. This anime has none of these features present.

Oh and I didnt complain about the anime in the forums, I complained about your comment which was clearly addressed towards a joke I made. Then again, if you don't know the difference between a joke and proper critizism, ur not very smart to begin with, are you?

alvenzo95 said:


Fair enough. I mean, I can see that to most people it's just going to be a relaxing watch, and I have nothing against that. However, I always want to take something from an anime, even if it's just a few laughs. I'm obvs not a motorbike connoisseur or anything of the sort, so when I started it I thought, if im in it, its for the characters and character interactions, and maybe to get a few laughs. However I find the mc too stupid for a real life character (hell i find her more stupid than luffy (one piece) and thats saying a lot). I didnt expect crazy development or anything, I just expected to not find the mc as frustratingly annoying as I find her... And by crap writing, I mean not story wise necessarily, but more the fact of how they've made the mc so unrealistically stupid, and all the other characters are not too original either... And since I didn't like the mc, I found most of the jokes around her irritating ;(

Anyways, I'll still give K-on a try because I've heard it manages to be different or something (i mean it stands out for a reason, hopefully its not undeserved hype xD), but I'll be more careful from now on :)

RasberryKisses said:


"This anime has none of these features present. " that's your opinion and that's ok.

But as someone with huge experience with CGDCT Bakuon!! is very solid CGDCT show(and manga) by the standards of the genre, and again it's was always apparent what the show was all about.

oh and now we hiding behind the joke. nah mate you we trying shoehorn drama in to CGDCT. "That could change things for the better" genres exist of a reason, it's not hard to understand that coming in to CGDCT as saying "this can be better with drama" will rise some eyebrows. Especially form people that like this sort of thing.

alvenzo95 said:


OK, despite finding it hard to understand the last comment, all im gonna say is this:

I might not have as much experience with CGDCT as you do, and you might be right to a certain extent, this might be a better CGDCT than I have given it credit for (i'm not necessarily always right when it comes to things), it was only my opinion and my thoughts.

However, what I was saying from the start is that if I consider a show a 1/10 (lets say this is the minimum score), however much you change things around, even if you introduce elements that are not meant to be in the story originally, its not gonna make the show worse than a 1/10 for me for sure. Will it make it better? probably not, but if you continue down the same path, its gonna definitely stay a 1/10, so why not and change things up?

alvenzo95 said:
Obvs I know man hahahahahaha

But wouldnt it be better to have a more serious take on motorbikes and racing, which actually makes you excited to get a motorbike or something? Some mix of like haikyuu (for example) and motorbikes?

Objurgo said:


I feel like you have to somewhat get Motorbikes to some degree to enjoy this, even at the basic level. And I had the feeling that most of your distaste for the show is based off of Hane. Who isn't the MC I think. Onsa is the MC from what I've sort of gathered. Could be wrong, doesn't really matter because Hane still gets a lot of screen time xD Maybe she will get better, I don't know :P

If you're really wanting to watch a music sol I'd suggest you to watch Hibike Euphonium instead. It does the same things better and provides more. With an actual story, the characters have a goal. There's confrontations, the animation is better and it's more focused on the music. It's even made by the same studio lol

ernietheracefan said:

Yeah, I know what you mean..

So your problem with this is just "what could be a serious injury" as the black comedy, right..?

RasberryKisses said:


Because some things are not meant to be changed in some ways. It's 1/10 for you, for others it might be different, now i know anime just can't be judged completely objectively BUT one should always have the conventions of a genre in mind when offering criticism or thought on improvement.

I'm not a fan of violent anime and don't have much experience with them, and when for whatever reason i pick up a violent anime (like OPM) even if i'm not enjoying it, i'm not going to go on forum saying this anime will be better if there was less blood and collateral damage. That's just doesn't make any sense.

alvenzo95 said:


Im not saying this anime is 1/10, relax (although I wont personally continue with it). And that was not meant to be thoughts on improvements at all hahaha, i was just joking (cuz i hate the mc A LOT), but you do have to admit that sometimes it takes a 180 turn (or at least a unique twist) to make a show better. Does this always work? of course not. In fact nowadays, plot twists are almost overused in some cases. But sticking to the conventions established by a certain genre or group of genres can sometimes limit greatly the possibilities of a series. Think about it, if people were afraid to mix genres when creating anything (tv, books, etc) there would be even less originality and more cliches

RasberryKisses said:


but not really CGDCT, because this genre thrives on delivering what is expected of it. It's like popcorn, you now exactly now it tastes and what the texture is. And people expect it to deliver just that ever.single.time. And you'll be surprised but not everyone seeking originality from their entertainment. I'm personally just fine with watching familiar/consistent stuff that doesn't really offer much in the way of excitement or originality.

alvenzo95 said:


Once again, that comment wasnt specific to CGDCT, but for all genres and types of entertainment. But fair enough. Personally, I don't have a problem with unoriginal stuff as long as a) its well executed b) it doesnt have too many tropes or the tropes are not all in ur face. However, if I was to watch stuff by simply disregarding these 2 points, I would be watching too much stuff to handle (i really luv anime and manga xD), hence y I need some sort of personal standards...

Dont get me wrong, I do watch my fair share of cliche stuff and all, but I always try to get at least a good deal of enjoyment value out of it (which is often influenced by how repetitive or unique the show is, or what it does differently from similar shows). However I do understand people just going with simple stuff they know they will enjoy and not putting that much thought into what they watch, its totally fine :)

Lil-Bird said:
I like Onsa's hairstyle--that's about it. What the fuck was that about "Baita"?

How did this show get greenlit? Someone better get into a (real) motorcycle accident or this show's never going to be rated above a "5" because this show's totally lost on me.

RasberryKisses said:


Well then i can say that CGDCT is not genre for you, honestly. Yes some stuff like k-on has near perfect execution but i'm afraid that what you seek from characters and what this genre can provide doesn't really align.

masa95 said:
You guys have no idea the irony of my bike being inoperable for a while just a week before an anime about bikes that I've been looking forward to for a year premiers. Sad sad. But I loved the episode. I'm excited for the rest of the series.

You don't know the half of it, shaggy.

Objurgo said:


May isn't that dumb.. xD

alvenzo95 said:

Ummm, dunno what makes you say that...

Clannad, Toradora, Space Brothers, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Mushishi, Silver Spoon, Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo, all of these I absolutely love and are all SoL.

scruffykiwi said:


Actually NONE of those are SoL and not one is even remotely CGDCT! Probably the closest of those to SoL is Silver Spoon but that is more of a Coming of age Drama/RomCom than a SoL. Toradora and Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo are romcoms, Clannad is emo drama romance, Haruhi is a comedy and Mushishi is something else entirely!

Put simply you're watching the wrong show. This is a pure SoL/CGDCT and doesn't need to be anything else.

alvenzo95 said:


I know none of these are CGDCT (never said they were), but they are all SoL. Purely SoL, maybe not. But they are all listed as SoL on MAL and have strong SoL elements (except Mushishi tbh, mushishi is something else entirely, i dont think i can classify it in any genre really if i think about it, its just relaxing as fuck)

Ferax said:
Cute girls on motorcycles!
Cute girls on motorcycles!
Cute girls on motorcycles!

Faiyez said:
I like how Bakuon! is not completely set in an idealized bubble world where the pitfalls and the perils of motor biking are not acknowledged.

Actually, the manga got pretty dark very early on, and you'll see it soon enough (next ep.) for all you smartasses...



And Bakuon! doesn't really need to do this because it's set to promote biking as nothing but lighthearted enjoyment, but interestingly, it does acknowledge the perils of biking.