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Aug 8, 2013 11:39 PM
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I want to know why people like Evangelion so much. I like the series but don't see what all the hype is about. So tell me, why do you like it so much. Your answer can't be... "Because it is so good."... Your arguement will be invalid after that.
"Canaan. You're a victim whose past was taken away by war. And she's a defeated person who lost her past in a power struggle. Soldiers who are born within destruction take hatred as their weapon. Even though you and her became soldiers for the same reason, you both live differently. Listen Canaan, you cannot counter hatred with hatred... ever." -Siam, Canaan
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Aug 8, 2013 11:40 PM
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"Because it is so good."
Aug 8, 2013 11:44 PM
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2deep4u?
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k need something better than that.
"Canaan. You're a victim whose past was taken away by war. And she's a defeated person who lost her past in a power struggle. Soldiers who are born within destruction take hatred as their weapon. Even though you and her became soldiers for the same reason, you both live differently. Listen Canaan, you cannot counter hatred with hatred... ever." -Siam, Canaan
Aug 8, 2013 11:45 PM
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i never watched it, apparently its pretty good OP.
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k need something better than that.


Cause it has electrolytes.
Aug 8, 2013 11:46 PM
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Cause of Teh Rei
Aug 8, 2013 11:46 PM
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Trippeh said:
i never watched it, apparently its pretty good OP.

It was pretty good. But not as good as everybody makes it out to be.
"Canaan. You're a victim whose past was taken away by war. And she's a defeated person who lost her past in a power struggle. Soldiers who are born within destruction take hatred as their weapon. Even though you and her became soldiers for the same reason, you both live differently. Listen Canaan, you cannot counter hatred with hatred... ever." -Siam, Canaan
Aug 8, 2013 11:47 PM
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because asuka
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"Mind f*ck"
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Fuckyou-Kun said:
because asuka

k. Asuka is one of my favorite anime characters but still.
"Canaan. You're a victim whose past was taken away by war. And she's a defeated person who lost her past in a power struggle. Soldiers who are born within destruction take hatred as their weapon. Even though you and her became soldiers for the same reason, you both live differently. Listen Canaan, you cannot counter hatred with hatred... ever." -Siam, Canaan
Aug 8, 2013 11:53 PM

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The opening song & The End of Evangelion are my favoutire parts.

Why don't you start by giving you thoughts on it?
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Aug 9, 2013 12:01 AM

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SuperHands said:
The opening song & The End of Evangelion are my favoutire parts.

Why don't you start by giving you thoughts on it?

I liked the series and found the religious references interesting. I did enjoy a few parts of it thoroughly (Asuka and Shinji kissing scene...Nagisa and Shinji angelimance.) but things in the series just made me bored at points. for instance they had scenes where Shinji would just stare at people. I thought that these scenes took to long to get through. The only one that I liked was the one with Asuka and Rei in the elevator because of the emphasis used.
But I did overall love the series. I'm just so confused to why it is so popular.
"Canaan. You're a victim whose past was taken away by war. And she's a defeated person who lost her past in a power struggle. Soldiers who are born within destruction take hatred as their weapon. Even though you and her became soldiers for the same reason, you both live differently. Listen Canaan, you cannot counter hatred with hatred... ever." -Siam, Canaan
Aug 9, 2013 12:08 AM

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moonkingdomify said:
SuperHands said:
The opening song & The End of Evangelion are my favoutire parts.

Why don't you start by giving you thoughts on it?

I liked the series and found the religious references interesting. I did enjoy a few parts of it thoroughly (Asuka and Shinji kissing scene...Nagisa and Shinji angelimance.) but things in the series just made me bored at points. for instance they had scenes where Shinji would just stare at people. I thought that these scenes took to long to get through. The only one that I liked was the one with Asuka and Rei in the elevator because of the emphasis used.
But I did overall love the series. I'm just so confused to why it is so popular.


That's because Gainax (The studio who made NGE) was running low on budget. They had to use tricks to cut the amount of frames to speed up the process and cut cost. The TV series really does cut a lot of corners in the animation department.
Aug 9, 2013 12:11 AM

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yeah well. Last 2 episodes is laziness.
"Canaan. You're a victim whose past was taken away by war. And she's a defeated person who lost her past in a power struggle. Soldiers who are born within destruction take hatred as their weapon. Even though you and her became soldiers for the same reason, you both live differently. Listen Canaan, you cannot counter hatred with hatred... ever." -Siam, Canaan
Oct 9, 2013 12:51 AM

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Because Sachiel.
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process.
Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers.

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moonkingdomify said:
yeah well. Last 2 episodes is laziness.

It's not so much that they were lazy. It's just that they didn't have a budget at this point. Besides, once they got their money all back, they went ahead and made The End of Evangelion movie, so it's all good.
And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible.
Oct 9, 2013 1:49 PM

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Yea dude besides the last two episodes were good.
Oct 9, 2013 1:58 PM

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cuz Shinji is my bitch
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moonkingdomify said:
SuperHands said:
The opening song & The End of Evangelion are my favoutire parts.

Why don't you start by giving you thoughts on it?

I liked the series and found the religious references interesting. I did enjoy a few parts of it thoroughly (Asuka and Shinji kissing scene...Nagisa and Shinji angelimance.) but things in the series just made me bored at points. for instance they had scenes where Shinji would just stare at people. I thought that these scenes took to long to get through. The only one that I liked was the one with Asuka and Rei in the elevator because of the emphasis used.
But I did overall love the series. I'm just so confused to why it is so popular.


Dammit, spoilers XD
Oct 13, 2013 10:20 PM

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I've been thinking why it's one of my favourite animes, and I think it's because it, even with it flaws, has so much more believable characters than lets say, Shingeki no Kyojin. Not that SnK isn't a good show. NGE is just so much different to the rest of the anime and movies.

Even with his annoying nature, Shinji is, in the end, one of the best characters because he's real. That's how pretty much everyone would act if he/she were thrown into a situation like that no matter how cool or awesome you think you are. And I'm not going to talk about why I like Asuka so much except that she's awesome.

Then there's also the fact that I'm a sucker for these "you are the last hope for humanity's survival, you must not lose" dramas, and that's what NGE is. Except it does that genre more believably than any other series I have seen.

While I agree that some scenes could be called slow or cheap, such as some people standing without moving for 30 seconds, those scenes just added to the psychological "horror" I got from watching it, as funny as it may sound.
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Oct 20, 2013 7:16 AM

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It's an overhyped anime from the past that's protected by classic armour. If it aired right now I can see it getting SAO levels of scrutiny
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SaberKino said:
It's an overhyped anime from the past that's protected by classic armour. If it aired right now I can see it getting SAO levels of scrutiny
Meh I felt that everything apart from the animation quality was either very good or excellent. But on the whole it is far from perfect but is still very good but that's just me
p.s. I watched it within this last year
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Oct 20, 2013 7:22 AM

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NGE is to deep for some. I'm not even joking i really think that there are some anime which deepness can't be felt by certain Anime watchers. They mostly have SAO on there faves. So NGE haters, its to deep for you guys.
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Where do i start puking?
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Where do i start puking?
Out of sight of everyone if possible
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Oct 30, 2013 2:46 AM

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It's extremely deep and the characters are so good but fucking mentally twisted and damaged. I must say I sympathized a lot with Shinji and Asuka. Also it has very nice development of character albeit in the opposite direction you would expect. The entertainment value is just off the charts for me and the music is very good. Plus I love Asuka and watching episode 22 uncut made me cry for her a little. Any anime that can make me cry gets at least a 9 from me because it has to be damn good.

I've rewatched plenty of times and each time I see things in a different perspective from which I've never seen before. it's one of those shows where the plot doesn't get boring necessarily. I would have gave this a 10/10 but the ending is so fucked up that I have no idea what is going on....and I'm sure nobody else does either.
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Context probably plays a part in it too. When I watched it 15 years ago it was definitely the shit.
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Cause of Teh Rei
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Cuz Shinji ejaculates pretty fast
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The story I'd say. The characters are awful but I think the story and plot are really well done.
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The story I'd say. The characters are awful but I think the story and plot are really well done.
Actually the characters are the best part of the anime as they have depth and are developed in the way of the exploration of their psyches. The plot is quite convoluted due to the number of layers that were attempted to be put in.
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The story I'd say. The characters are awful but I think the story and plot are really well done.
Actually the characters are the best part of the anime as they have depth and are developed in the way of the exploration of their psyches. The plot is quite convoluted due to the number of layers that were attempted to be put in.


I know, but I still hate the fact all of them are so stupidly messed up. I would be ok with the two kids (rei is barely a character, she's a plot device) but even the adults to? WTF? The convoluted story is really good, and make rewatching alot easier. There's alot going on, but at least it all makes sense in the end.
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It's not, it's a holy crap
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skudoops said:

I know, but I still hate the fact all of them are so stupidly messed up. I would be ok with the two kids (rei is barely a character, she's a plot device) but even the adults to? WTF? The convoluted story is really good, and make rewatching alot easier. There's alot going on, but at least it all makes sense in the end.
Psychological issues are not age limited you know?
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skudoops said:
I know, but I still hate the fact all of them are so stupidly messed up. I would be ok with the two kids (rei is barely a character, she's a plot device) but even the adults to? WTF? The convoluted story is really good, and make rewatching alot easier. There's alot going on, but at least it all makes sense in the end.


It does?
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JustLurking said:

It does?
It's not that hard it's just the last 2 eps that fuck with you
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Oct 30, 2013 3:32 AM

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I'm just questioning the ALL part. It does make sense. I'm just not sure I agree that it ALL makes sense. If you catch my drift.
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I'm just questioning the ALL part. It does make sense. I'm just not sure I agree that it ALL makes sense. If you catch my drift.
Ah this I get what your're on about now
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skudoops said:

I know, but I still hate the fact all of them are so stupidly messed up. I would be ok with the two kids (rei is barely a character, she's a plot device) but even the adults to? WTF? The convoluted story is really good, and make rewatching alot easier. There's alot going on, but at least it all makes sense in the end.
Psychological issues are not age limited you know?


I know, but that doesn't mean everyone in the show needed to have them to such an extent.

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skudoops said:
I know, but I still hate the fact all of them are so stupidly messed up. I would be ok with the two kids (rei is barely a character, she's a plot device) but even the adults to? WTF? The convoluted story is really good, and make rewatching alot easier. There's alot going on, but at least it all makes sense in the end.


It does?


Yeah it does, and by end I mean EoE lol.
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I know, but that doesn't mean everyone in the show needed to have them to such an extent.
I'm sorry but I didn't Know that the near miss with the end of the world does not scar you in some shape or form
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i never watched it, apparently its pretty good OP.
best OP in anime I recon lmao
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CEASELIFE said:
i never watched it, apparently its pretty good OP.
best OP in anime I recon lmao

dude, you're like 6 years late
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I want to know why people like Evangelion so much. I like the series but don't see what all the hype is about. So tell me, why do you like it so much. Your answer can't be... "Because it is so good."... Your arguement will be invalid after that.
I see where you are getting at, the series was good but there where certain points that I found confusing or boring. Overall it's really good, but after watching I have become obsessed. I think it is because it explores issues in which many people face, allowing them to deeply connect with the characters. Personally I think it's, the overall themes and symbolism imbedded into the series is what makes the show 'hyped' and widely popular.
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Neon Genesis Evangelion and End of Evangelion can only be described as an epic story, one that builds its narrative around its own brilliant existential philosophy and intricately crafted lore.

I could go on for days about every genius aspect of Neon Genesis Evangelion, but the thing I rarely see people about is the personal impact it had on themselves. For me, watching NGE as anxious and lonely teen was deeply healing in a way I never experienced before: not in other media, not even my own daily life.

A testament to the care put into humanizing the characters is that they felt real, like you are peering into the life of real people with serious, almost intolerable psychological flaws. Unlike most shows in which the characters’ main goal (i.e. killing all the titans, going back home from an isekai, etc.) is mostly limited by outside factors, the characters of NGE hold themselves back with their own irrational emotions. At times it is easy for the audience to even feel disgust and disdain for them, after they frustratingly intercept themselves at key moments for seemingly no good reason.

The reason we hate these characters is because they are a reflection of what we hate about ourselves. Part of what makes Eva so effective is how it confronts our own unresolved feelings and make us uncomfortable. As for me, I began to relate to Shinji’s dilemma of yearning to connect while fearing rejection, Asuka’s compulsion to prove her independence, and Misato’s imposter syndrome.

Yet once the story depicts their deeply rooted traumas, hence explaining their irrational tendencies and revealing the full picture, you feel more inclined to forgive them. One of the themes that Evangelion wants you to internalize is that people are shaped by their own unique experiences that are largely out of their control—once you accept this for yourself, you may start to forgive yourself too.

The characters’ own experiences, as well as the simultaneous validation and gentle criticism which the show provides was such a touching reminder for me that no matter how twisted and broken we may seem to ourselves, it is part of human nature and there will always be an opportunity to pursue happiness.

Tl;dr: Evangelion is a gift to anyone searching for happiness, value, or meaning in their lives. It doesn’t provide you with answers, but merely guides you on the right path to finding them for yourself. The closest thing I can think to describe it is the feeling of a sigh of relief while thinking “ah, so that’s how it is.” That is why I believe it is so important and valuable for just about anyone to watch it.
Seriously. Go watch it.
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tbh I’m really disappointed with all these replies :V it’s true that most people don’t really get it, and that is understandable.

In order to grasp all of Evangelion’s intricacies, you need to pay close attention to the show’s exposition—mainly in the form of dialogues between characters. The series is so dense that even seemingly meaningless dialogue can be incredibly symbolic, foreshadow/build the philosophical foundation for later events, or reveal key details on the secrets behind Nerv. It doesn’t take a genius to understand the full scope, but it does take extremely close attention to detail. Most people don’t have the time, energy, or patience to devote to watching it in this manner, but that’s ok as it isn’t necessary to gain value from the experience in other ways.

I think to get this show on an emotional level, you don’t need to pause at every frame to look up theories or think really hard or any of that crap. But, you do have to open yourself up to your own feelings and reactions to the show as they come. Recognize how you feel about certain characters, events, etc. Recognize when something makes you feel uncomfortable, happy, scared, or angry.

Most importantly, when you arrive at a scene where there is no action or dialogue for a long stretch of time, don’t fast-forward or get distracted. They are there to combat the show’s density, to provide a sense of space, above all, give you, the viewer, time to just be with the emotions you are feeling in that moment.

If you are the kind of person who is not inclined to connect deeply emotionally with their anime, you are probably not going to like this series. The characters will be extremely unlikeable, scenes that are not packed with action will be unbearable, and the End of Evangelion in its entirety will be an hour-long clusterfuck. That’s okay! Die-hard Eva fans will probably get mad at you, but that might be because they are defensive of the emotional value it brought them—something that is simply incompatible with you.

You do you boo.
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It feels gross trying to explain in just a forum post.

It has some of the best directing period.

The characters and their relationships are fascinating. The characters hold feelings for each other that they can’t reciprocate properly. Shinji can’t get the attention he wants from his dad. Shinji and Asuka could have a relationship but they’re both to immature.

All of the characters have really low self worth.They can’t love each other because they don’t love themselves. This is the message of the series.

The Christian imagery is used as analogy. People use god to justify their existence. If god loves me then I have a reason to live. This is like how The characters in the show base thier own self worth on the approval of others.

another thing I like about the series is that the tone can drastically vary from episode to episode. Some episodes are romcom and others are phycological thriller.

If someone wants me to elaborate on any of these points just ask.

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It feels gross trying to explain in just a forum post.

Yeah tbh I feel like an idiot for writing an essay for no one to actually see. rip

I completely agree with all of your points, though it’s hard to explain why they make the show so great without discussing all of their intricacies and how they interplay. At some point they gotta just watch the damn show lmao
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