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Jul 17, 2008 3:39 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Whoo Zoro ~~
Awesome fight :D
Jul 17, 2008 3:44 PM
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Wow...a new group picked up One Piece. :D But yeah its a great episode, finally a short but awesome fight for Zoro. Too bad about the last part of the episode though...
Jul 17, 2008 4:08 PM
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Eh? Who's the new group??
Instantz released it D:
Jul 17, 2008 8:01 PM
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awesome episode Zoro fight epic
love Brookes reaction to his shadow return lmao
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Jul 18, 2008 1:09 AM
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Zoro's fight was pretty cool, lol ^^ I laughed at Brook's reaction too.
Jul 18, 2008 1:39 AM
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The fight between Zoro and Ryuuma was pretty cool. Really liked Zoro's final attack.
Jul 18, 2008 4:58 AM
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Hmmmmm, I LIKED it , didn't love it. I guess I expected too much of the epic fight between Zoro and Ryuuma hehe, it was pretty sweet awesome fight, but a bit too short for my liking, Zoro didn't even use his Onigiri :(

But SUGOI final attack indeed , awesome dragon shizzle.

Haha yeah lol @ Brook's reaction indeed, and Usopp all happy that he can brag whahaha. Next ep , Chopper action, GOODIE, I alrdy thought him and Robin were KO-ed waaay too easy.
Jul 18, 2008 1:57 PM
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Haha...was it just me, or was that flashback longer than 5 minutes? Lol.

Second half of the episode all filler like unfortunately. It ruined a great first half.
Jul 18, 2008 1:59 PM
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hmmm not that much longer i think....Did you forget the clock in the Arabasta arc?
Jul 19, 2008 4:32 PM

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vindemon64 said:
Haha...was it just me, or was that flashback longer than 5 minutes? Lol.

Yeah that's what I was thinking xD.

Anyway the fight was pretty cool. Not amazing, but pretty sweet. Zoro's finishing move was nice.




Jul 20, 2008 7:29 AM

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this arc is not that great imo..
hmm I catch up today I didn't watch 8 eps or so
still want to see how it works out ^^ but im happy when they start a other arc tbh.

when does ep 363 comes out ?
monday?

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Jul 20, 2008 7:34 AM
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vinnie-kun said:

when does ep 363 comes out ?
monday?
Most of the time we have a raw version today....and a subed version on Thursday or something....But yeah the current arc will probably not end anytime soon...But i think you'll like the next one more, Its more like other types of One Piece arcs
Jul 20, 2008 7:37 AM

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Lofoc said:
vinnie-kun said:

when does ep 363 comes out ?
monday?
Most of the time we have a raw version today....and a subed version on Thursday or something....But yeah the current arc will probably not end anytime soon...But i think you'll like the next one more, Its more like other types of One Piece arcs


Ok cool then Im lookin forward to it thanks for fast reply :D
so your on the sub team then?:D
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Jul 20, 2008 7:44 AM
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Nah I'm not...My Japanese is not nearly good enough to really translate a whole One Piece episode. XD I do watch raws of some of my favorite series though.^^
Jul 20, 2008 12:19 PM

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aaah I see ^^ haha well anyway thanks for fast reply's :P
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Jul 20, 2008 7:58 PM

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instanz should be releasing it first. Since the person who normally subs it is back.

Anyways I really liked this fight. Much better than some of the other ones before. And I liked how it didnt take 20 episodes to show the fight.
Jul 21, 2008 5:35 AM

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I was expecting a somewhat more grandiose fight between Ryuuma and Zoro, but eh regardless of my expectations it was still good. For the first few episodes when Odz had woken up, I thought they were going to get lucky and avoid fighting him since Luffy's shadow was dominant for a while but it seems like there will definitely be a fight now.
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Jul 21, 2008 5:42 AM

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It kinda fits that the zoro fight was so short. They were going at it pretty hard, and if it would keep up any longer, their swords would break. But even though it was short, it was still awesome.
And yes, Oz (why do they keep translation it as Odz? I thought that was just Hildon's accent) is now under Moria's controll, shits gonna go down xD
Jul 25, 2008 5:25 AM
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Kira said:
I was expecting a somewhat more grandiose fight between Ryuuma and Zoro, but eh regardless of my expectations it was still good. For the first few episodes when Odz had woken up, I thought they were going to get lucky and avoid fighting him since Luffy's shadow was dominant for a while but it seems like there will definitely be a fight now.

omg yeh i thought the same thing when i read this in the manga... MAN i cant wait to see oz *beep* {insert spoiler here} *beep* it was awsome enough in the manga!!
Dec 11, 2009 12:17 AM

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Zoro is a BAMF. Nothing else to say.

Luffy is being stupid. I know it wouldn't be as interesting to the story, but if I was him I'd just use the gears and beat the living crap out of Moria by now. But I'm sure it'll happen sometime, and so I'll be patient.
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i feel that Kaku is stronger than this guy =O

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Mar 13, 2010 11:36 PM

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Zoro is le awesome like always. :)
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May 20, 2010 8:24 AM

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Fuck yeah! Great first-half of the episode. Amazing fight with Zoro and a much deserved prize! Next time we get some more Chopper and Robin, do want!
Aug 19, 2010 7:09 PM

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Yea granted this fight felt short, but more epic than the Kaku fight to me, probably since it felt more proper and styled, nothing against the giraffe its just you know....
Apr 6, 2011 4:08 AM

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Wow that was short, but pretty cool. It didn't last that long enough to feel really impressive. Zoro proved he was superior and he gained a new sword in the process. I wonder how that will help him out in the future. Yeah i agree, the fight against Kaku at ennies lobby was much better. Anyway this arc is ok. But it still has a ways to go, so im sure it gets better. Also did any one catch?

"I'll take the Katana, but lets forget our fights outcome, Samurai of Wano Country"
I think that was an important piece of dialogue there.

Has Zoro met this guy some where or something? Where is Wano Country? Or is that just another foreshadowing development that comes up later on. Anyways that kind of caught my attention.

Damn this guy Moria seems like he is untouchable. So far luffy hasn't even been able to attack him hardly at all. He has just been so busy with his shadow. I wonder how he can defeat an opponent like this. I look forward to it.
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I don't know, I personally think this fight blew the Kaku one out of the water. Part of this is because of the way it was handled, it was cool how it showed Zoro on his back with the other guy standing tall and this made me think, "Zoro's losing?" But then they flash back and show that Zoro had actually won. I thought that was pretty well handled, don't know how it was in the manga though.

Besides, this guy seemed way more threatening than a freaking giraffe.
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Jun 3, 2011 7:15 PM

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Great fight as expected from zoro! Theres a thing about swordfighting which gets me going! Loved every minute of it! Looks like zoro just leveled up with the acuisition of Shuusui!
Jul 28, 2011 7:24 PM

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Besides, this guy seemed way more threatening than a freaking giraffe.

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Feb 1, 2012 2:36 PM

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i think this fight was better as well. the flashback deception was a great twist. i was caught off guard by the speed of it, which i liked, because there was none of the usual blabbing and ups and downs and drawn out silent shots. they slashed up the tower, ran like seventy fight degree up the roof, exchanged really fast swordplay, and zoro owned. this was the most REALISTIC fight.

ANYWAYS NOW HE HAS THREE KATANAS AGAIN YAY ZORO YAY
Nov 10, 2012 7:18 AM

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Awe yeah the new sword does look cool also.

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Dec 1, 2012 8:49 PM

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Yay for Brook getting his shadow back!

As Brook pointed out, it was entertaining watching Zoro & Ryuma fight with such bad foothold.
Aug 7, 2013 10:25 PM

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quick but awesome zoro fight!
the samurai was pretty strong, wish i couldve seen more of its power when it was alive.
either way, zoro's got a new katana and brooks got his shadow back, thats what counts the most!
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Dec 12, 2013 4:42 PM

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Awesome fight with Zoro. Best one so far for me. Did he look different though? His facial expressions looked funny to me, like a different person animating. Maybe just me.
Jan 22, 2014 2:04 PM

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The fight was short but still very entertaining! The samourai guy seems cool. He must have been a real basass at his time.
Chopper's time!!!
Mar 7, 2014 10:07 PM

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yawn
zoro fights are always so boring
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Next up

Oct 4, 2014 8:37 PM

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Great stuff.
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That sword looks cool
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I was expecting more from this battle, as a decent chunk of fan's seem to hold it in really high regard.
May 26, 2016 12:36 PM
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The fight between Zoro and Ryuuma was toztaly awsome


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And Zoro is three-sworded again! Yay
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Mar 9, 2017 2:36 AM

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Now that was a good fight!!
Short but sweet and snappy...also glad Zoro has finally got another sword~

Now Luffy just needs to hurry his butt up and think of a strategy fast!!
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Even tho the fight was short but it's the best one so far
the samurai was a great opponent
Dec 11, 2018 6:48 PM

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Did I miss out on stuff or is everyone else just not confused about Ryuma's defeat. How the heck did Zoro ignite his wound with blue flames like that?! Did it have to do with his cursed sword? It's just another fight ending with a new move that comes out of nowhere and ends it no matter how cool it was. I'm starting to feel no tension in Zoro fights due to the way they all tend to end. It didn't seem like Zoro salted Ryuma's mouth so I have to wonder, did he purposefully suicide after taking that blow. A zombie can't die! So, was that out of respect to the duel, that he took a blow that would take out his human self, so out of respect he gave his shadow and sword in defeat? Because if so that's awesome and I think it fits everything else about Ryuma's character, and that's better than the alternative of the blue flames purifying him in my opinion!

Anyways, let's not gripe too much over one decision! The fight itself was awesome. Finally I've been sold after all this time on air slashing attacks. The fact that Ryuma was able to shoot his sword like a shot gun due to its speed was too cool not to love it. That and the fact that Zoro and Ryuma ended with draws over and over again as they destroyed the entire tower they were in was utterly awesome. Seeing two legendary swordsman fight on a tilted tower head, having to stab the ground at times as to not fall, it was definitely something to rememeber and the setting and footing of the fight were quite unique and awesome!

However, my favorite parts of the fight were before it started and after it finished actually. Ryuma said "I feel as though I am standing before a giant beast. It's quite exhilarating. Emotions beyond my recollection are surfacing". This theme is continued later, but for the moment this is already super meaningful. I think Ryuma is comparing Zoro to the dragon he once slayed! This is even more confirmed by Zoro using "Soaring Dragon" to defeat him, Zoro embodied that dragon. Before they even got going Ryuma respected Zoro and he reminded him of his old self's memories, not Brooks, but somehow Ryuma's. It's not as though he could remember it literally but his body and his emotions did. It got him in a fighting mood and it also allowed him to feel bitter samurai defeat on his loss and respectfully admit it, giving up his sword for his old self's sake, the one who actually wielded the katana, becuase, he thought Zoro would be a good master of it. That is so freaking wild. I love that Zoro reminded Ryuma that he was a swordsman in life and death, in body and mind. The fight was cool but the subtext around it was utterly wonderful. Ryuma was given so much subtle depth that I started to sincerly sympathize with him and respect him.

The way Zoro himself referred to him as "Samurai of Wano Kingdom" and respectfully said he wouldn't bring up this duel is quite notable too. Out of respect for him he won't gloat about defeating a legendary warrior in the state he was in then. But also, I had already thought Zoro knew a bit too much about him from the way he talked about him. He was already so interested in seeing him fight. So, seeing he is an "ancient" warrior I can't imagine Zoro knew him personally, but rather I bet Zoro knew who he was. He probably heard legends of him and was able to figure out who he was from the descriptions he heard and later the visual confirmation of how he fought. O_O This fight was wonderful!

I love the sense of camaraderie Zoro has for the foes he respects. He hasn't fought a bumbling idiot in a sword fight in awhile now. Definitely no one of the calibur of Buggy's swordsman and Hachi. Instead, he's fought Kaku who he has a somber goodbye with, T-Bone who he absolutely respected in how he fought for what he believed in, and now Ryuma who he wishes he could have had a fair fight in the flesh with and whom he won't mention the defeat of. Zoro is so awesome. He is disgusted by swordsman who don't know the true weight of being a swordsman, but, the ones that do, those ones are people Zoro respects with his all. People he could have probably allied with alike how he allies with Luffy under different circumstances. Maybe they remind him of his childhood friend. Maybe they just align with his Bushido way and demand respect. Either way its awesome and this episode spoke a lot about both fighters. It was freaking great.

The other thing is that Zoro couldn't truly say goodbye to the shopkeepers sword. It was something truly meaningful to him and I think Zoro respects that. I hadn't visually noticed it but the fact that he's kept the hilt around is touching. I wonder what he'll do with it now that he has the Shuisui. Now he has his childhood friends sword, a cursed sword, and a legendary swordsman's sword. What a scary collection.

Zoro's one of the Straw Hats which can appear to be one of the simplest but I think he has a shocking amount of depth to uncover. He's tight-lipped and shows it in small ways though. To understand him you really need to read inbetween the lines, even more than with Luffy. Easily one of my favorite Zoro episodes.

Edit: facepalm Thinking further about this fight I think the blue flames were symbolic of the dragon Zoro embodied and it may not go any further than that.
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Did I miss out on stuff or is everyone else just not confused about Ryuma's defeat. How the heck did Zoro ignite his wound with blue flames like that?! Did it have to do with his cursed sword? It's just another fight ending with a new move that comes out of nowhere and ends it no matter how cool it was. I'm starting to feel no tension in Zoro fights due to the way they all tend to end. It didn't seem like Zoro salted Ryuma's mouth so I have to wonder, did he purposefully suicide after taking that blow. A zombie can't die! So, was that out of respect to the duel, that he took a blow that would take out his human self, so out of respect he gave his shadow and sword in defeat? Because if so that's awesome and I think it fits everything else about Ryuma's character, and that's better than the alternative of the blue flames purifying him in my opinion!

I also wondered about that, also since when Zoro produces fire ! I recall him using a fire based attack to finish Mr5 inlittle garden with a move called:yaki oni giri but back then there was fire already present.... I hope this gets explained later
Edit : about Ryuma getting purified I think it's because he got too much damaged, even if he's a zombie, he's stillmade of (rotten) flesh... That's why we saw blood coming out of his wound and mouth.
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I'm pretty surprised that the bit that was shown at the previous episode turned out to be the final moments of Zoro and Ryuma's fight with the former winning all along. That Dragon Slash ability that set fire on the legendary samurai's corpse was rather sudden but this was definitely one of his better fights.

I really hope that they'll delve on how Zoro comes up with such powerful techniques on the fly soon since there's certainly more to him than meets the eye. He's not just your average swordsman but I want to see how exactly he could fight like this since everyone else has a well-explained fighting style by now.

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Oct 27, 2020 5:39 PM

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Thats almost what i was expecting from a samurai , except the laughing lol

Fight was great
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May 24, 2021 4:24 AM

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The pride of a swordsman. Good job Zoro.
Aug 6, 2021 8:56 AM

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awesome fight between ryuma and zoro
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Zoro v Ryuuma was cool, on to next one.
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