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Nov 23, 9:14 AM
#1
| Hey guys. We all know, the animation is bad. Like, OBJECTIVELY bad, undefensible. I think they've focused a lot on SOME scenes, because some fights do look "good enough", but that huge focus on a few scenes makes the animation extremely inconsistent ; and still terrible overall. BUT, let's be honest, the biggest problem in this season is the arc itelf. I read the manga, years ago. And man, I had forgotten HOW FREAKING SLOW the beginning is! It's taken SIX episodes to BEGIN the operation. SIX! SIX episodes that tell almost literally nothing. SIX episodes that aren't even funny most of the time. I had felt like that when I read this arc in the manga. It was so god awful I had literally forgotten that this part before the operation was that slow, lmao! Without spoiling : don't worry, starting from here, things get better. The animation will still be bad, but at least we'll get fun episodes and some good fights. Although I am worried they might rush the operation. Again, it's been years since I'd read this arc, but.... I'm pretty sure they'll struggle to end this arc if this season only has 12 or 13 episodes. |
| Everything changes. Even the happy and funny things eventually disappear. How can I still enjoy this place then? - Furukawa Nagisa (Clannad) You have to make a choice. Either you give up on your soul for the sake of science, or you give up on science to save your soul. In my case, the soul was already in pieces. - Lloyd Asplund (Code Geass) Do you understand the meaning behind Nunnaly's smile? She can't see or walk. So there are things in this world that she knows she can't do alone. Her smile... is her only way to show gratitude. - Lelouch Vi Britannia (Code Geass) Death is part of Life. - ... Me. |
Nov 23, 9:24 AM
#2
| I actually like the imminent vibes of this slow start. |
*kappa* |
Nov 23, 9:29 AM
#3
| I'm a manga reader, and I didn't even complain about this arc in the manga. In fact, this arc in the manga is loved by the fans, and this is the peak of the whole franchise so far. So why am I complaining in the anime? because it's dogshit. And you're right, the animation isn't the only problem here, it's EVERYTHING ELSE, including the direction, which is equally as dogshit. Not much is happening on the screen other than still frames and camera pans, so this makes the dialogue even worse than they are supposed to be. I never complained about dialogues in S1 because they are fun, engaging, and entertaining, and I don't complain about dialogue scenes in other anime either, as long as they are fun, engaging, and entertaining as well. So why am I complaining about this in OPM S3? Because those dialogue scenes are dogshit, and this is the result of horrible direction. The anime didn't do anything to elevate the manga in those dialogue scenes; in fact, it made everything worse and boring. If I want to watch still frames and camera pans, then I simply would stick with the manga, but I'm watching an anime here, and animation matters to me. I definitely didn't wait 5-6 years for this shit. And I'm only talking about the direction here, don't even get me started with the animation. This is a short 12-episode anime, and I don't accept shit like this from short animes, especially from this one that set a standard with S1 and raised the bar high with top-tier animation. I can accept shit like this from long-ass animes because those animes are supposed to be "Quantity" instead of quality. The least I expect from a short 12-episode seasonal anime is "Quality". Am I getting a quality product here? Absolutely not, this is disappointing as fuck. The only thing I praise here is the voice acting, but a good voice acting won't save a shitty season. |
Nov 23, 9:33 AM
#4
| nah the manga is fine the anime adaptation is just slow and the storyboards or direction is just boring heck the jokes on the manga are solid but in the anime they are not funny at all even though they are the same so ye the direction is just poor too besides the animation |
Nov 23, 9:39 AM
#5
| the biggest problem in this season isn't the arc itelf, what are you saying? LMAO... It is and always will be Bandai Namco. Even the most utterly boring and abominable plot is enjoyable if the animation is spectacular. Monogatari Series is a good example. It has almost no combat; it's 99% dialogue between two characters, but it's fucking epic and spectacular thanks to its animation and direction. |
Nov 23, 12:08 PM
#6
| no, the worst part is the direction, it's really boring and uninspired |
Nov 23, 7:09 PM
#7
| you think anime fans care about anything other than animation ? lol suddenly they care about " direction " when they run out of critcisms |
Nov 23, 7:46 PM
#9
| The biggest problem with this season is that Saitama basically isn't even in it. |
Nov 23, 8:07 PM
#10
| Here's a fanboy who doesn't understand anything... Conversations are precisely the moments where there should at least be some minimal animation, but there should always be something moving — that's what makes it fun. An anime without animation is no longer anime, it's just manga, and that's exactly what we have right now. "That it's going to improve now? You're delusional. The future isn't going to fix the previous episodes, and with the 'action' we've seen so far, even that seems impossible. Not to mention the countless errors, the awful pacing, the terrible storyboarding, that neon filter... It's literally beyond saving. Even if the final episode had Season 1-level quality, it's still doomed — a few good episodes can't fix all the damage that's already been done. It's dead |
Nov 24, 1:21 AM
#11
Hashield said: Here's a fanboy who doesn't understand anything... Conversations are precisely the moments where there should at least be some minimal animation, but there should always be something moving — that's what makes it fun. An anime without animation is no longer anime, it's just manga, and that's exactly what we have right now. "That it's going to improve now? You're delusional. The future isn't going to fix the previous episodes, and with the 'action' we've seen so far, even that seems impossible. Not to mention the countless errors, the awful pacing, the terrible storyboarding, that neon filter... It's literally beyond saving. Even if the final episode had Season 1-level quality, it's still doomed — a few good episodes can't fix all the damage that's already been done. It's dead Just look at Monogatari series, it's probably one of if not the most monologue/dialogue/conversation heavy anime there is and there was never a moment where I thought "damn, this is just boring and they just keep talking" when they proceed to do so for 5 episodes straight. Conversation and just talking scenes can be interesting if they could try to do so instead of just a png with maybe a moving mouth while the VAs talk. |
Nov 24, 1:47 AM
#12
| I'm not familiar with the manga, but from what I've seen so far in the anime, that arc is not half bad. The main problems of this anime are surely poorly animated scenes, but they are not the worst thing about this season. It's direction and storyboards. Both are chaotic and ruin the pacing of otherwise well-paced (in theory) moments. Just look like that Garou's fight from ep. 5. Even with the same animation it could've been more enjoyable to watch if its direction had not been almost non-existant, with storyboards offering nothing but chaotic implementation of manga panels (at least I heard it was like this from folks who were caught up with the manga), as if anime as a medium was equal to manga and followed exactly the same principles. So, even though animation is the most commonly referred problem, rightfully so, it's not the main one. Poor direction and storyboards are, actually. All those graphic errors are also consequences of these two elements done simply bad. Not even half-baked, but bad. |
Nov 24, 10:29 AM
#13
Reply to Hashield
Here's a fanboy who doesn't understand anything... Conversations are precisely the moments where there should at least be some minimal animation, but there should always be something moving — that's what makes it fun. An anime without animation is no longer anime, it's just manga, and that's exactly what we have right now.
"That it's going to improve now? You're delusional. The future isn't going to fix the previous episodes, and with the 'action' we've seen so far, even that seems impossible. Not to mention the countless errors, the awful pacing, the terrible storyboarding, that neon filter... It's literally beyond saving. Even if the final episode had Season 1-level quality, it's still doomed — a few good episodes can't fix all the damage that's already been done.
It's dead
"That it's going to improve now? You're delusional. The future isn't going to fix the previous episodes, and with the 'action' we've seen so far, even that seems impossible. Not to mention the countless errors, the awful pacing, the terrible storyboarding, that neon filter... It's literally beyond saving. Even if the final episode had Season 1-level quality, it's still doomed — a few good episodes can't fix all the damage that's already been done.
It's dead
| @Hashield LOL! Learn to read before insulting others. I'm not a fanboy, because I'm not even a fan of One Punch Man. The animation is terrible, I said so in my post. When I said it gets better, I'm talking about the arc. Anime-onlys might want to drop a season after watching half of literally nothing happening. My point is : the arc eventually takes off, even though it takes its time. ---- As for the other comments, I'm convinced about the direction complaints! It's definitely too flat. Even the OPENING is flat. I stand by my position that the arc itself is the worst part of it though. Literally half of the season is a nothing-burger! And I strongly feel tha the actual battle will be rushed...... but wait&see. |
| Everything changes. Even the happy and funny things eventually disappear. How can I still enjoy this place then? - Furukawa Nagisa (Clannad) You have to make a choice. Either you give up on your soul for the sake of science, or you give up on science to save your soul. In my case, the soul was already in pieces. - Lloyd Asplund (Code Geass) Do you understand the meaning behind Nunnaly's smile? She can't see or walk. So there are things in this world that she knows she can't do alone. Her smile... is her only way to show gratitude. - Lelouch Vi Britannia (Code Geass) Death is part of Life. - ... Me. |
Nov 24, 12:05 PM
#14
Reply to Dante012
@Hashield LOL! Learn to read before insulting others.
I'm not a fanboy, because I'm not even a fan of One Punch Man.
The animation is terrible, I said so in my post.
When I said it gets better, I'm talking about the arc. Anime-onlys might want to drop a season after watching half of literally nothing happening. My point is : the arc eventually takes off, even though it takes its time.
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As for the other comments, I'm convinced about the direction complaints! It's definitely too flat. Even the OPENING is flat.
I stand by my position that the arc itself is the worst part of it though. Literally half of the season is a nothing-burger! And I strongly feel tha the actual battle will be rushed...... but wait&see.
I'm not a fanboy, because I'm not even a fan of One Punch Man.
The animation is terrible, I said so in my post.
When I said it gets better, I'm talking about the arc. Anime-onlys might want to drop a season after watching half of literally nothing happening. My point is : the arc eventually takes off, even though it takes its time.
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As for the other comments, I'm convinced about the direction complaints! It's definitely too flat. Even the OPENING is flat.
I stand by my position that the arc itself is the worst part of it though. Literally half of the season is a nothing-burger! And I strongly feel tha the actual battle will be rushed...... but wait&see.
Dante012 said: I stand by my position that the arc itself is the worst part of it though. Literally half of the season is a nothing-burger! And I strongly feel tha the actual battle will be rushed...... but wait&see. This is actually the best arc in the entire franchise; most of the manga readers (me included) agree to this. So no, the arc has nothing to do with how bad the anime is. The anime is bad because almost everything in it is utter dogshit, and this includes animation, direction, storyboard, and hell, even the soundtrack is a fucking mess in this season. The arc isn't the problem; the majority of the manga readers didn't even complain about it in the manga, and we believe this is the best arc so far. The anime is the problem since they are fucking everything up, and they are making it worse and boring in every possible way. This shitty season hasn't done anything to elevate the source material, nor has it given it justice; it's doing the complete opposite, making it worse. |
Nov 24, 6:23 PM
#15
xZabuzax said: the majority of the manga readers didn't even complain about it in the manga Off topic but are you sure about that? I have seen tons of webcomic readers hate the constant redraws and the ending of that arc (Especially the final fight) because it ruined what makes the webcomic version of the story so good in the first place (And them they blamed Murata for all the changes lol). |
Nov 24, 7:01 PM
#16
Reply to MahiaErebeaNegi
xZabuzax said:
the majority of the manga readers didn't even complain about it in the manga
the majority of the manga readers didn't even complain about it in the manga
Off topic but are you sure about that? I have seen tons of webcomic readers hate the constant redraws and the ending of that arc (Especially the final fight) because it ruined what makes the webcomic version of the story so good in the first place (And them they blamed Murata for all the changes lol).
@MahiaErebeaNegi To be fair, you’re not wrong about some webcomic readers being pissed off. But that still doesn’t change the core point: the arc itself is solid. The complaints weren’t about the content of this arc, they were about the constant redraws slowing the pacing to a crawl and Murata restructuring things over and over. I dislike the redraws myself; they dragged out the arc and made the release cycle frustrating as hell. But that’s a production problem, not a problem with the arc's actual story or its overall quality. Most manga readers, even the ones annoyed by redraws like me, still agree that the current arc is the peak of the series in terms of scale, stakes, characters, and payoff. So yeah, people complained about redraws and some changes in the final fight, but they weren’t saying "the arc is bad". They are simply saying, "stop redrawing the same chapters and delaying progress". The anime, on the other hand, is failing because of execution, animation, direction, pacing, and music, not because the arc is bad in the manga. The source material is fine; the adaptation is what’s dropping the ball. |
Nov 25, 4:34 AM
#17
Reply to xZabuzax
Dante012 said:
I stand by my position that the arc itself is the worst part of it though. Literally half of the season is a nothing-burger! And I strongly feel tha the actual battle will be rushed...... but wait&see.
I stand by my position that the arc itself is the worst part of it though. Literally half of the season is a nothing-burger! And I strongly feel tha the actual battle will be rushed...... but wait&see.
This is actually the best arc in the entire franchise; most of the manga readers (me included) agree to this. So no, the arc has nothing to do with how bad the anime is. The anime is bad because almost everything in it is utter dogshit, and this includes animation, direction, storyboard, and hell, even the soundtrack is a fucking mess in this season.
The arc isn't the problem; the majority of the manga readers didn't even complain about it in the manga, and we believe this is the best arc so far. The anime is the problem since they are fucking everything up, and they are making it worse and boring in every possible way. This shitty season hasn't done anything to elevate the source material, nor has it given it justice; it's doing the complete opposite, making it worse.
| @xZabuzax Have you actually done any polling that could allow you to affirm this with so much confidence? There sure seems to be a lot of people who gave up after this arc, or at least started being bored by this arc. I know I'm one of them. Also, look at the sales per volume. There's a massive dip for Volume 22. https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/comments/1cbekjg/one_punch_man_manga_sales_evolution_by_josu_ke Guess which arc it is from? This one. And as it was said, that arc is when the redraws started. On a side note, I had NO IDEA the situation was this bad lmao!!! I knew the manga was a redraw of the webcomic, but I had no idea the manga itself had many iterations. |
| Everything changes. Even the happy and funny things eventually disappear. How can I still enjoy this place then? - Furukawa Nagisa (Clannad) You have to make a choice. Either you give up on your soul for the sake of science, or you give up on science to save your soul. In my case, the soul was already in pieces. - Lloyd Asplund (Code Geass) Do you understand the meaning behind Nunnaly's smile? She can't see or walk. So there are things in this world that she knows she can't do alone. Her smile... is her only way to show gratitude. - Lelouch Vi Britannia (Code Geass) Death is part of Life. - ... Me. |
Nov 25, 4:53 AM
#18
Reply to Dante012
@xZabuzax Have you actually done any polling that could allow you to affirm this with so much confidence?
There sure seems to be a lot of people who gave up after this arc, or at least started being bored by this arc. I know I'm one of them.
Also, look at the sales per volume. There's a massive dip for Volume 22.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/comments/1cbekjg/one_punch_man_manga_sales_evolution_by_josu_ke
Guess which arc it is from?
This one.
And as it was said, that arc is when the redraws started. On a side note, I had NO IDEA the situation was this bad lmao!!! I knew the manga was a redraw of the webcomic, but I had no idea the manga itself had many iterations.
There sure seems to be a lot of people who gave up after this arc, or at least started being bored by this arc. I know I'm one of them.
Also, look at the sales per volume. There's a massive dip for Volume 22.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/comments/1cbekjg/one_punch_man_manga_sales_evolution_by_josu_ke
Guess which arc it is from?
This one.
And as it was said, that arc is when the redraws started. On a side note, I had NO IDEA the situation was this bad lmao!!! I knew the manga was a redraw of the webcomic, but I had no idea the manga itself had many iterations.
@Dante012 I haven’t claimed to run a formal poll; nobody in these discussions has. What I’m talking about is the general sentiment you see across the fandom over the years: Reddit threads, forum discussions, YouTube breakdowns, community reactions, etc. The Monster Association arc has consistently been regarded as the high point of the manga, separate from the frustration caused by redraws. And about those sales numbers: Volume 22 dropping isn’t proof that "people didn’t like the arc". It lines up exactly with the period where the manga’s pacing completely collapsed because of nonstop redraws and long delays. I don't think people were quitting because the arc was bad; they were quitting because they were tired of rereading modified chapters and waiting forever for anything to move forward. That’s a production issue, not a writing/arc quality issue. If the arc itself were widely disliked, you’d see that reflected in discussions about the story, not the release cycle. But what you actually see is: 1 - Readers praising the arc’s scale, fights, and character moments. 2 - Readers complaining heavily about pacing, delays, and Murata revising chapters again and again. Those are two different things. So yes, people dropped off, but not because "the arc is bad". They dropped off because the redraw era made following the arc exhausting. That’s exactly why comparing this to the anime is important: The manga arc is strong despite redraw frustrations. The anime is failing because of execution issues within the anime itself. |
Nov 25, 3:44 PM
#19
| it never felt this slow or boring in the manga, it didnt take roughly 2 hours of content to get through the build up, because the manga had good direction and decent pacing. The direction in the anime is just shit, and theres literally nothing to redeem it. |
Nov 25, 4:57 PM
#20
| I don't think this season is "that" bad, but let's be fair ... you can skim the manga, that's one major difference ... But yes, this arc is somewhat slow, and the author tried to add 10,000 secondary fights. Don't forget the redraws that made the arc slower. Unlike arc 1, this arc is long, so there should be some buildup, and these 6 episodes were necessary. Even with the best direction and budget, it would have still required 4-6 episodes. |
Dec 1, 9:41 AM
#21
Reply to xZabuzax
@Dante012 I haven’t claimed to run a formal poll; nobody in these discussions has. What I’m talking about is the general sentiment you see across the fandom over the years: Reddit threads, forum discussions, YouTube breakdowns, community reactions, etc. The Monster Association arc has consistently been regarded as the high point of the manga, separate from the frustration caused by redraws.
And about those sales numbers:
Volume 22 dropping isn’t proof that "people didn’t like the arc". It lines up exactly with the period where the manga’s pacing completely collapsed because of nonstop redraws and long delays. I don't think people were quitting because the arc was bad; they were quitting because they were tired of rereading modified chapters and waiting forever for anything to move forward. That’s a production issue, not a writing/arc quality issue.
If the arc itself were widely disliked, you’d see that reflected in discussions about the story, not the release cycle. But what you actually see is:
1 - Readers praising the arc’s scale, fights, and character moments.
2 - Readers complaining heavily about pacing, delays, and Murata revising chapters again and again.
Those are two different things.
So yes, people dropped off, but not because "the arc is bad". They dropped off because the redraw era made following the arc exhausting.
That’s exactly why comparing this to the anime is important:
The manga arc is strong despite redraw frustrations.
The anime is failing because of execution issues within the anime itself.
| @xZabuzax People wouldn't stop buying the manga if they enjoyed it... |
| Everything changes. Even the happy and funny things eventually disappear. How can I still enjoy this place then? - Furukawa Nagisa (Clannad) You have to make a choice. Either you give up on your soul for the sake of science, or you give up on science to save your soul. In my case, the soul was already in pieces. - Lloyd Asplund (Code Geass) Do you understand the meaning behind Nunnaly's smile? She can't see or walk. So there are things in this world that she knows she can't do alone. Her smile... is her only way to show gratitude. - Lelouch Vi Britannia (Code Geass) Death is part of Life. - ... Me. |
Dec 1, 10:14 AM
#22
| Ye, i hate it when shows have story, i only want action, i can't handle words with my 65 IQ /s |
Dec 1, 11:48 AM
#23
Reply to CultOfAina
Ye, i hate it when shows have story, i only want action, i can't handle words with my 65 IQ /s
| @CultOfAina THAT is story according to you??? LMAO!!!!!!! |
| Everything changes. Even the happy and funny things eventually disappear. How can I still enjoy this place then? - Furukawa Nagisa (Clannad) You have to make a choice. Either you give up on your soul for the sake of science, or you give up on science to save your soul. In my case, the soul was already in pieces. - Lloyd Asplund (Code Geass) Do you understand the meaning behind Nunnaly's smile? She can't see or walk. So there are things in this world that she knows she can't do alone. Her smile... is her only way to show gratitude. - Lelouch Vi Britannia (Code Geass) Death is part of Life. - ... Me. |
Dec 1, 12:15 PM
#24
Dec 1, 12:29 PM
#25
| Well yeah I agree. Art and animation are bad, but the story is also not fun to watch either. At least if you're like me and don't give a shit about Garou, who this season as mostly about so far. I just want more Saitama and maybe some of the other S-class heroes. |
Dec 1, 12:51 PM
#26
Reply to Dante012
@CultOfAina THAT is story according to you??? LMAO!!!!!!!
| @Dante012 LMAOROFLCOPTERLULLILBOY!!!!!!!! /cringe, good to see you're part of the ''toxic community of mal bro'' Anyway. Yes it's story, or at least some progression or development/buildup towards the actual battles. I never said it's good but there's too many people who expect every single episode to be a action packed battle. Its not gonna happen, some arcs are just more dialogue heavy. |
CultOfAinaDec 1, 1:23 PM
Dec 1, 12:52 PM
#27
Reply to Gator
Well yeah I agree. Art and animation are bad, but the story is also not fun to watch either.
At least if you're like me and don't give a shit about Garou, who this season as mostly about so far. I just want more Saitama and maybe some of the other S-class heroes.
At least if you're like me and don't give a shit about Garou, who this season as mostly about so far. I just want more Saitama and maybe some of the other S-class heroes.
| @Gator Better quit watching, itll be about garou for a long time |
Dec 1, 1:24 PM
#28
Reply to CultOfAina
@Gator Better quit watching, itll be about garou for a long time
| @CultOfAina I appreciate the advice, but I don't drop shows I've started. |
Dec 1, 1:56 PM
#29
Reply to Gator
@CultOfAina I appreciate the advice, but I don't drop shows I've started.
| @Gator Well thats fair. |
Dec 2, 7:39 AM
#30
Reply to CultOfAina
@Dante012
LMAOROFLCOPTERLULLILBOY!!!!!!!! /cringe, good to see you're part of the ''toxic community of mal bro''
Anyway. Yes it's story, or at least some progression or development/buildup towards the actual battles. I never said it's good but there's too many people who expect every single episode to be a action packed battle. Its not gonna happen, some arcs are just more dialogue heavy.
LMAOROFLCOPTERLULLILBOY!!!!!!!! /cringe, good to see you're part of the ''toxic community of mal bro''
Anyway. Yes it's story, or at least some progression or development/buildup towards the actual battles. I never said it's good but there's too many people who expect every single episode to be a action packed battle. Its not gonna happen, some arcs are just more dialogue heavy.
| @CultOfAina The problem is you define "toxic" as "someone opposing you." I'm making fun of you because you're saying something stupid. No offense. EDIT : Also, you're a fucking hypocrite. You barged in insulting my intelligence. How is that not toxic again??? Anyway. It's not story. The first half is extremely empty and shallow. Literally half of those episodes is about Saitama's group making stew. |
| Everything changes. Even the happy and funny things eventually disappear. How can I still enjoy this place then? - Furukawa Nagisa (Clannad) You have to make a choice. Either you give up on your soul for the sake of science, or you give up on science to save your soul. In my case, the soul was already in pieces. - Lloyd Asplund (Code Geass) Do you understand the meaning behind Nunnaly's smile? She can't see or walk. So there are things in this world that she knows she can't do alone. Her smile... is her only way to show gratitude. - Lelouch Vi Britannia (Code Geass) Death is part of Life. - ... Me. |
Dec 2, 8:08 AM
#31
| Here we go again....... |
Dec 2, 8:16 AM
#32
Reply to Deiki-kun
the biggest problem in this season isn't the arc itelf, what are you saying? LMAO... It is and always will be Bandai Namco.
Even the most utterly boring and abominable plot is enjoyable if the animation is spectacular. Monogatari Series is a good example. It has almost no combat; it's 99% dialogue between two characters, but it's fucking epic and spectacular thanks to its animation and direction.
Even the most utterly boring and abominable plot is enjoyable if the animation is spectacular. Monogatari Series is a good example. It has almost no combat; it's 99% dialogue between two characters, but it's fucking epic and spectacular thanks to its animation and direction.
Deiki-kun said: It is and always will be Bandai Namco. Ohh yes because the rest of the anime made by this studio has the most amazing quality animation out there right? |
Dec 2, 10:39 AM
#33
Reply to Dante012
@CultOfAina The problem is you define "toxic" as "someone opposing you." I'm making fun of you because you're saying something stupid. No offense.
EDIT : Also, you're a fucking hypocrite. You barged in insulting my intelligence. How is that not toxic again???
Anyway.
It's not story. The first half is extremely empty and shallow. Literally half of those episodes is about Saitama's group making stew.
EDIT : Also, you're a fucking hypocrite. You barged in insulting my intelligence. How is that not toxic again???
Anyway.
It's not story. The first half is extremely empty and shallow. Literally half of those episodes is about Saitama's group making stew.
| @Dante012 Because you are opposing me? I don't think you know what opposing means. You're also calling me a hypocrite but I'm not the one contradicting my own profile page in this thread? Not to mention that you go around picking fights with everyone it seems. (edit: by the way, you say you can't stand people that can't accept others having different opinions but you're literally that person ^) And of course you're making another stupid statement. Yes theres story, no it's not only about the stew (which you're using as a fallacy to make your point somehow look stronger). You don't get to define what a story is. You can have a subjective opinion whether it's good or bad (and well, lets be real, OPM story has always been kind of bad). But claiming your own subjective opinion to be the objective truth is delusional. Can I agree that the pacing is too slow for the amount of information we're actually getting? Yeah kinda, but that happens when they are trying to insert three different story lines storylines at once. |
CultOfAinaDec 2, 10:46 AM
Dec 2, 10:40 AM
#34
Reply to Yubisoft
Deiki-kun said:
It is and always will be Bandai Namco.
It is and always will be Bandai Namco.
Ohh yes because the rest of the anime made by this studio has the most amazing quality animation out there right?
| @Yubisoft I feel this is a bit of cope angle. JC is not a bad animation studio. it's obviously not mappa but it's also not really taking the projects which require animation like that |
Dec 2, 12:34 PM
#35
| I will be honest I really hate the Saitama vs Garou fight in the Murata manga version. ONE's version was so damn better. Muarata version made Saitama vs Garou into to generic Solo leveling fight |
Dec 2, 12:49 PM
#36
Reply to CultOfAina
@Yubisoft I feel this is a bit of cope angle. JC is not a bad animation studio. it's obviously not mappa but it's also not really taking the projects which require animation like that
CultOfAina said: really taking the projects which require animation like that Unfortunately they are and that was Fairy Tail: 100 Years Quest and they destroyed that too and made it worse than some mid budget VNs on Steam. Is that cope too or Bandai Namco is the problem there too? Come on man. |
Dec 2, 10:31 PM
#37
Reply to CultOfAina
@Dante012 Because you are opposing me? I don't think you know what opposing means. You're also calling me a hypocrite but I'm not the one contradicting my own profile page in this thread? Not to mention that you go around picking fights with everyone it seems. (edit: by the way, you say you can't stand people that can't accept others having different opinions but you're literally that person ^)
And of course you're making another stupid statement. Yes theres story, no it's not only about the stew (which you're using as a fallacy to make your point somehow look stronger). You don't get to define what a story is. You can have a subjective opinion whether it's good or bad (and well, lets be real, OPM story has always been kind of bad). But claiming your own subjective opinion to be the objective truth is delusional.
Can I agree that the pacing is too slow for the amount of information we're actually getting? Yeah kinda, but that happens when they are trying to insert three different story lines storylines at once.
And of course you're making another stupid statement. Yes theres story, no it's not only about the stew (which you're using as a fallacy to make your point somehow look stronger). You don't get to define what a story is. You can have a subjective opinion whether it's good or bad (and well, lets be real, OPM story has always been kind of bad). But claiming your own subjective opinion to be the objective truth is delusional.
Can I agree that the pacing is too slow for the amount of information we're actually getting? Yeah kinda, but that happens when they are trying to insert three different story lines storylines at once.
| @CultOfAina You : "It's bad to insult others." Also you : "YoU HaVe an IQ of SixTee-Fiiive!" Also ALSO you : "YoU ArE PiCkiNg FiighTs!" It's the very definition of hypocrisy. You don't get to define what a story is either. Anyway. |
| Everything changes. Even the happy and funny things eventually disappear. How can I still enjoy this place then? - Furukawa Nagisa (Clannad) You have to make a choice. Either you give up on your soul for the sake of science, or you give up on science to save your soul. In my case, the soul was already in pieces. - Lloyd Asplund (Code Geass) Do you understand the meaning behind Nunnaly's smile? She can't see or walk. So there are things in this world that she knows she can't do alone. Her smile... is her only way to show gratitude. - Lelouch Vi Britannia (Code Geass) Death is part of Life. - ... Me. |
Dec 2, 10:52 PM
#38
| I don't think so. You want to tell me that if this was the same level of Animation as Season 1, people would still hate it? That's just not true^^ It might not be the best arc or whatever. But Animation really is the main problem. |
Dec 3, 1:42 PM
#39
| I absolutely agree, OPM after S1 was never disappointing just because of the animation, but rather the plot and story. It really shifted focus from being mostly a parody and started making it's own plot. Let me be honest, the animation is disappointing but it's not nearly bad enough to ruin the show, the plot and story on the other hand, could be. The fact that people hate the animation here enough to rate it 4.6 as of this message, is baffling, OPM fans owe a apology to the TBATE fans for complaining when they're eating this good, TBATE had it way worse. |
| I like to watch some anime, I like to talk about some anime, I dislike wars over some anime, but more than anything I love to live my life, anime is an enjoyable and entertaining addition onto my life but it's not my whole life. |
Dec 3, 2:53 PM
#40
Reply to Dante012
@CultOfAina You : "It's bad to insult others."
Also you : "YoU HaVe an IQ of SixTee-Fiiive!"
Also ALSO you : "YoU ArE PiCkiNg FiighTs!"
It's the very definition of hypocrisy.
You don't get to define what a story is either.
Anyway.
Also you : "YoU HaVe an IQ of SixTee-Fiiive!"
Also ALSO you : "YoU ArE PiCkiNg FiighTs!"
It's the very definition of hypocrisy.
You don't get to define what a story is either.
Anyway.
| @Dante012 '' You : "It's bad to insult others."'' Where, did, i even, say this. All i said is that your typical manchild ''hurdurroflecopter'' made me cringe/pointing out the irony And yet again something you don't realize because you're fkn moron, is that I am not contradicting myself because I'm not the one complaining about toxicity on my profile. All I did was pointing out your hypocrisy, I don't actually care if people are toxic as long as they are making sense. Also, how does me also argueing with people contradict you doing it while preaching your moral superiority? Yet again, im not the 1 with hypocrite statements on my profile. ''You don't get to define what a story is either.'' Wow I would buy a cake if i were you because this might actually be the first and last time you said something that is remotely true even if it's still irrelevant. You are correct I do not get to define what a story is. And you know why? Because there is already a definition of ''story'' and that definition has nothing to do with your opinion (or mine for that matter) on how good or bad it is. So yes thank you for proving my point. ps: But yeah I shouldn't even be paying attention to you because you're pretty much only reacting to one thing because you know you're not capable of countering what I said about the story itself. ''Things I hate: - The lack of argumentation/reflexion. Think before you speak!!!'' Oh boy. edit: You are the one who took the IQ comment personally. I was mostly talking about all the people constantly complaining in every shounen/seinen ever that not every episode is consisting of 90% fights^ |
CultOfAinaDec 3, 10:41 PM
Dec 3, 3:10 PM
#41
Reply to Yubisoft
CultOfAina said:
really taking the projects which require animation like that
really taking the projects which require animation like that
Unfortunately they are and that was Fairy Tail: 100 Years Quest and they destroyed that too and made it worse than some mid budget VNs on Steam. Is that cope too or Bandai Namco is the problem there too? Come on man.
| @Yubisoft Cherry picking shows when they have a massive collection of high quality shows doesn't really mean anything. You could obviously argue that a lot of these shows are are on the older side but that doesn't really change anything, unless you want to change the argument to '' they have been rather terrible lately''. I'm also not sure who you are aiming the bandai comment at, because I haven't mentioned them , nor will I make any statements about whether they are or are not the problem this season. I'm simply pointing out that JC is not trash. (I will agree that the studio is quite bad compared to what they used to be tho. (But to be fair the last few things bandai produced/published (w/e) that were actually decent were kyoto animation shows, so you could argue that they are not particularly doing great either) ps: have you see FT: final series. If we're talking about animation let's not ignore the fact that the season that came before JC took over was easily one of the worst animated Seasons ever |
CultOfAinaDec 3, 10:41 PM
Dec 3, 4:09 PM
#42
| they animated garou pretty good, watching that muscular body move is almost worth sitting through this boring so-called season |
Dec 3, 9:19 PM
#43
Reply to Yubisoft
CultOfAina said:
really taking the projects which require animation like that
really taking the projects which require animation like that
Unfortunately they are and that was Fairy Tail: 100 Years Quest and they destroyed that too and made it worse than some mid budget VNs on Steam. Is that cope too or Bandai Namco is the problem there too? Come on man.
| @Yubisoft Okay, but you failed to mention: -the railgun series -the index series (1-2) -Sakurasou -Danmachi -Toradora -Shimoneta These have higher quality than opm season 2 and 3. If we're putting credit where credit is due, then mention these shows they did a great job on. |
Dec 4, 12:33 AM
#44
Reply to CultOfAina
@Yubisoft Cherry picking shows when they have a massive collection of high quality shows doesn't really mean anything. You could obviously argue that a lot of these shows are are on the older side but that doesn't really change anything, unless you want to change the argument to '' they have been rather terrible lately''.
I'm also not sure who you are aiming the bandai comment at, because I haven't mentioned them , nor will I make any statements about whether they are or are not the problem this season. I'm simply pointing out that JC is not trash. (I will agree that the studio is quite bad compared to what they used to be tho. (But to be fair the last few things bandai produced/published (w/e) that were actually decent were kyoto animation shows, so you could argue that they are not particularly doing great either)
ps: have you see FT: final series. If we're talking about animation let's not ignore the fact that the season that came before JC took over was easily one of the worst animated Seasons ever
I'm also not sure who you are aiming the bandai comment at, because I haven't mentioned them , nor will I make any statements about whether they are or are not the problem this season. I'm simply pointing out that JC is not trash. (I will agree that the studio is quite bad compared to what they used to be tho. (But to be fair the last few things bandai produced/published (w/e) that were actually decent were kyoto animation shows, so you could argue that they are not particularly doing great either)
ps: have you see FT: final series. If we're talking about animation let's not ignore the fact that the season that came before JC took over was easily one of the worst animated Seasons ever
CultOfAina said: Cherry picking shows That is exactly the problem with you people. No matter how many examples we give you will always defend mid so I don't see any reason to continue this further. CultOfAina said: have you see FT: final series. If we're talking about animation let's not ignore the fact that the season that came before JC took over was easily one of the worst animated Seasons ever Yes sure I agree but does that mean I should congratulate JC mid for destroying the sequel and any chances of future season.? You people love moving the goalposts. Aren't you? |
YubisoftDec 4, 12:39 AM
Dec 4, 12:36 AM
#45
Reply to Yuu_Kanzaki
@Yubisoft Okay, but you failed to mention:
-the railgun series
-the index series (1-2)
-Sakurasou
-Danmachi
-Toradora
-Shimoneta
These have higher quality than opm season 2 and 3. If we're putting credit where credit is due, then mention these shows they did a great job on.
-the railgun series
-the index series (1-2)
-Sakurasou
-Danmachi
-Toradora
-Shimoneta
These have higher quality than opm season 2 and 3. If we're putting credit where credit is due, then mention these shows they did a great job on.
| @Yuu_Kanzaki You are comparing an action anime with so many intense fights with Shimoneta, Sakurasou and the index and railgun series that have light years less demanding fights (in terms of animation) etc and you expecting me to take you seriously ?. When it comes to romance they are decent but everything else that remotely requires skill the produce mid. |
YubisoftDec 4, 12:39 AM
Dec 4, 8:21 AM
#46
Dec 4, 8:51 AM
#47
Reply to CultOfAina
@Dante012 '' You : "It's bad to insult others."''
Where, did, i even, say this. All i said is that your typical manchild ''hurdurroflecopter'' made me cringe/pointing out the irony
And yet again something you don't realize because you're fkn moron, is that I am not contradicting myself because I'm not the one complaining about toxicity on my profile. All I did was pointing out your hypocrisy, I don't actually care if people are toxic as long as they are making sense. Also, how does me also argueing with people contradict you doing it while preaching your moral superiority? Yet again, im not the 1 with hypocrite statements on my profile.
''You don't get to define what a story is either.''
Wow I would buy a cake if i were you because this might actually be the first and last time you said something that is remotely true even if it's still irrelevant. You are correct I do not get to define what a story is.
And you know why? Because there is already a definition of ''story'' and that definition has nothing to do with your opinion (or mine for that matter) on how good or bad it is. So yes thank you for proving my point.
ps: But yeah I shouldn't even be paying attention to you because you're pretty much only reacting to one thing because you know you're not capable of countering what I said about the story itself.
''Things I hate:
- The lack of argumentation/reflexion. Think before you speak!!!''
Oh boy.
edit: You are the one who took the IQ comment personally. I was mostly talking about all the people constantly complaining in every shounen/seinen ever that not every episode is consisting of 90% fights^
Where, did, i even, say this. All i said is that your typical manchild ''hurdurroflecopter'' made me cringe/pointing out the irony
And yet again something you don't realize because you're fkn moron, is that I am not contradicting myself because I'm not the one complaining about toxicity on my profile. All I did was pointing out your hypocrisy, I don't actually care if people are toxic as long as they are making sense. Also, how does me also argueing with people contradict you doing it while preaching your moral superiority? Yet again, im not the 1 with hypocrite statements on my profile.
''You don't get to define what a story is either.''
Wow I would buy a cake if i were you because this might actually be the first and last time you said something that is remotely true even if it's still irrelevant. You are correct I do not get to define what a story is.
And you know why? Because there is already a definition of ''story'' and that definition has nothing to do with your opinion (or mine for that matter) on how good or bad it is. So yes thank you for proving my point.
ps: But yeah I shouldn't even be paying attention to you because you're pretty much only reacting to one thing because you know you're not capable of countering what I said about the story itself.
''Things I hate:
- The lack of argumentation/reflexion. Think before you speak!!!''
Oh boy.
edit: You are the one who took the IQ comment personally. I was mostly talking about all the people constantly complaining in every shounen/seinen ever that not every episode is consisting of 90% fights^
| @CultOfAina RIGHT, a comment directly answering MY comment under MY post is NOT aimed at me! LMAO! I could believe you if there were some people before you saying something like that here ; but guess what, everybody is defending the arc. But do keep pretending it wasn't aimed at me. All I did was laugh at what you said. That is not toxicity. There are good stories, there are bad stories. And then there are stories so empty that you can't decently call that a story. That is the beginning of this arc. |
| Everything changes. Even the happy and funny things eventually disappear. How can I still enjoy this place then? - Furukawa Nagisa (Clannad) You have to make a choice. Either you give up on your soul for the sake of science, or you give up on science to save your soul. In my case, the soul was already in pieces. - Lloyd Asplund (Code Geass) Do you understand the meaning behind Nunnaly's smile? She can't see or walk. So there are things in this world that she knows she can't do alone. Her smile... is her only way to show gratitude. - Lelouch Vi Britannia (Code Geass) Death is part of Life. - ... Me. |
Dec 4, 10:32 AM
#48
Dec 4, 4:23 PM
#49
Reply to Yubisoft
@Yuu_Kanzaki You are comparing an action anime with so many intense fights with Shimoneta, Sakurasou and the index and railgun series that have light years less demanding fights (in terms of animation) etc and you expecting me to take you seriously ?. When it comes to romance they are decent but everything else that remotely requires skill the produce mid.
| @Yubisoft OPM season 3 fails even at non action scenes. It would make sense if the talking scenes are bad but the action scenes are good, but neither are. They straight up opt to camera pans when they put some effort in those other shows. They are more than capable of making a decent adaptation. |
Dec 5, 4:20 AM
#50
| I think the animation is bad enough to deserve being called the worst aspect of opm s3, but I agree that the content from the manga is pretty bad, honestly I feel the same way about season 2, only season 1 is really enjoyable, but then since s2 every episode is just so much pointless yapping and they keep introducing new uninteresting characters that don't add anything of value... I don't want to sound too negative, there are good moments, some fights are interesting and the comedy still hits from time to time, but these enjoyable aspects are buried in tons of yapping, which paired with the trash animation just makes the slow pacing unbearable |
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