| Basically the answer is a presumption that an audience mostly composed of heterosexual men or boys want to see essentially pornographic material at all times. I kind of get why someone would think we think like this, I do think about sex a lot, and back in the day when pornography was harder to access putting some softcore material in your anime could genuinely help garner an audience. Personally find it quite tiresome, though, it tends to take me out of the experience and remind me that I am watching something that's very much a product. I did come to appreciate the relentless horniness in Darling in the Franxx because that was earnestly and genuinely about teenage sexuality, however. |
| "The suburbs dream of violence. Asleep in their drowsy villas, sheltered by benevolent shopping malls, they wait patiently for the nightmares that will wake them into a more passionate world." - JG Ballard, Kingdom Come (2006) |
| Part of it is because there is basically a post genre age where everything kind of blends together. Japanese culture traditionally was very much fine with the human body and sexuality and only became more conservative in Western terms by imperialist control over Japan post WWII. Sexuality and nudity are part of life. Also not everything you see is inherently meant as explicitly erotic but rather a way of showing a kind of realism, artistic angles or show innocence of a character through the lens of sexual gaze. 2.5D Seduction is one of the worst examples. Shouldn't the name and ecchi genre clued you in? Literally the whole point isn't just about cosplay it's an animanga otaku's fantasy of having flesh and blood girls like their anime waifus and imoutos. |
traedJan 3, 4:22 PM
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| There is no unneeded sexualisation in anime, every piece of sexualisation is absolutely necessary for the anime and for the viewers and for the fandom, FANSERVICE IS ALWAYS NEEDED. |
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There is no unneeded sexualisation in anime, every piece of sexualisation is absolutely necessary for the anime and for the viewers and for the fandom, FANSERVICE IS ALWAYS NEEDED.
| @tchitchouan Though I do wish more people would understand sexual content or nudity isnt inherently fanservice and fanservice isn't always sexual in nature like there is moe fan service too. |
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@tchitchouan
Though I do wish more people would understand sexual content or nudity isnt inherently fanservice and fanservice isn't always sexual in nature like there is moe fan service too.
Though I do wish more people would understand sexual content or nudity isnt inherently fanservice and fanservice isn't always sexual in nature like there is moe fan service too.
| @traed Yes, that is indeed true and accurate. |
| Your most recently watched series are pure pretty boy anime. Men are the same way except with a preference to pretty girls. The male sex drive is greater than the female sex drive thus the demand for sex is increased in male catered series. Also, men like fertility and purity. This is why men have a huge preference for teenagers and schoolgirls. The average age to have a kid 1000 years ago was 15. Literally in our biology |
rohan121Jan 3, 4:32 PM
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@tchitchouan
Though I do wish more people would understand sexual content or nudity isnt inherently fanservice and fanservice isn't always sexual in nature like there is moe fan service too.
Though I do wish more people would understand sexual content or nudity isnt inherently fanservice and fanservice isn't always sexual in nature like there is moe fan service too.
| @traed Yeah that's also a very calculated, if not necessarily cynical or bad, way of pushing men's buttons. There is something about cute anime girls having a nice time that very much taps into latent feelings of what I'd call paternal satisfaction, or at least it does for me. |
| "The suburbs dream of violence. Asleep in their drowsy villas, sheltered by benevolent shopping malls, they wait patiently for the nightmares that will wake them into a more passionate world." - JG Ballard, Kingdom Come (2006) |
| well there is less demand for pure ecchi and hentai this days so you will only see sexual fanservice on other anime genres now and even that is slowly dying like fire force and fairy tail both battle shonen are hated because of their sexual fanservice too i do not get your complain much since based on your anime list youre a new anime fan that did not know much the history of ecchi and hentai |
| Remember when bait was believable? Pepperidge Farm remembers. |
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@billybub It's yet again a fairly new account with a mostly blank page too, yet people are actually giving serious response.
| @Tropisch I have seen people ask considerably more stupid questions or indeed state considerably more stupid things in absolute sincerity. |
| "The suburbs dream of violence. Asleep in their drowsy villas, sheltered by benevolent shopping malls, they wait patiently for the nightmares that will wake them into a more passionate world." - JG Ballard, Kingdom Come (2006) |
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@billybub It's yet again a fairly new account with a mostly blank page too, yet people are actually giving serious response.
| @Tropisch 1st thing I look at when one of these dumbass posts come up. Like I said bait used to be believable lol. Real question is how long before the resident meme shows up to offer it's insight |
billybubJan 3, 4:56 PM
| Cost savings/laziness. Why put lots of effort into building an audience through beautiful animation and spicy stories when a couple of boobs is all it takes to get the boys to the yard? Lots of talentless manga artists and/or writers just try to use sexual fanservice as a short cut to making the dough. |
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| Umm...... it always like that since early 2000's right? Please watch more anime for more informed opinion |
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| I feel there's not enough of it. Romance comedy Anime should focus a little more on the moms of the main characters, also they should design anime moms like western moms tank top and yoga pants. |
| There is no such thing. All of it is 100% required. |
| Cucumber ice cream is the best! |
| Because Shinzo Abe wanted you to have sex. But you just ended up a gooner coomer instead. |
| "unneeded sexualisation" oxymoron |
| Lord Cruelty V "But my Dreams they're not as empty, as my conscience seems to be" |
| I don't mind it though I see the argument of why watch anime for the ecchi just watch hentai but I would think a number of things cause the ecchi aspect. In some ways, it is used to gain popularity, can be fanservice sometimes or is just something the author prefers to have. If the author puts it I can't really complain, it's their way of expressing the story, realism or whatever it is that they want... they made that scene, i would assume they put it cause they want it or something. 2.5 seduction though is not a good example as the title gives it away and also if you read the manga, I would say the anime has done it's best to counteract the 'ecchi-ness' and also the story is kind of a highschool fantasy and the MC is helping a girl who is interested in adult cosroms soooooooooo it was very evident that it was gonna be sexual |
| This is how the Japanese creatively express themselves. They're holed up in small, grey cubicles day in, day out, with nothing but mosaic to jerk off to. |
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| Not going to lie, I am sort of drawing blanks for very many recent anime doing this, to be honest. Am I just not watching explicitly labeled ecchi? It seems to have peaked in the 2000s and declined since then, to be completely honest. Anyone help me out here? |
| Auroraloose's Aurorasimp |
| Oh god, another one of these threads. |
| The obligatory sexualization/fanservice thread of the day. |
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| Because a large portion of the viewers are horny for 13-15 year old school girls(luckily you won't have to worry about them getting any anyways) and are virgins themselves. Obviously a big part of that is the creators as well. If a show is good I don't really care whether it has ecchi or not but it's a fairly rare phenomenon where it actually adds anything to a show. Like besides being a very old and tired out trope how often do people actually laugh at the skits where a dude gets a sneak peak of some panties or some girl/girls bathing "accidentally"? Unless of course you've never seen some panties in which case maybe you can find the humor in it even for the 50th time from the main character that looks exactly like all the other ones you saw go through it with a girl who has pink hair instead of blue hair but in the exact same school outfit even though they are in different shows and go to different schools. That said to each their own let them eat for the people that do enjoy it and watch something else if it bothers you that much. Even popular western shows like GoT have plenty of sex/nudity that don't necessarily add anything to the plot. Although I'd say seeing Emilia Clarkes tits is a bit more enjoyable than seeing some random 2d tits that barely give off the semblance of actual tits anyways. Then there is the case to be made where things can be sexual or give off that vibe much more subtly but that might actually take a modicum of creativity and it's much easier to just make a cut and paste ecchi scene. |
Then there is the example of 2,5d seduction where a lot of people are complaining that there is not enough ecchi in it. Now my question: Why do you need to have ecchi in an anime about high school girls doing cosplay? Basically, because the damn story is about doing erotic cosplay of erotic characters. The main female character literally wants to recreate the fanservice scenes from her favorite ecchi anime, and her biggest idol is literal a softcore porn cosplayer. Her first move? Going to an 18+ convention where they sell erotic material. Of course it’s necessary to reflect accurately and without sugarcoating what 'eroticism' truly means... Otherwise, what are they trying to tell us by framing all of this with censorship, guilt, shame? That doing all of that is wrong? Are they implying that the girl, who we're supposedly meant to respect, is somehow a degenerate whose behavior shouldn't be emulated in any way?    |
GnzaJan 3, 8:21 PM
| anime creators know their audience. fan service plays a big part in most anime |
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| Eye candy - Plain and simple. From the perspective of those who enjoy and support its inclusion, it obviously isn't "unneeded", but very much needed and desirable. As for myself, I'm relatively neutral or ambivalent. I'm fine with depiction of the most sexually explicit images and acts imaginable, yet I don't necessarily want excessive and goofy fanservice where it's not relevant in a way which detracts from focus on the story. But an occasional attractive or alluring shot isn't gratuitous or what I would qualify as distracting. It's a case by case basis. The age factor isn't relevant. That has a very simple and obvious answer, which is that boys and men are biologically hardwired to find younger women and girls attractive, down to at least the age of developing mid-teenagers, so of course most are going to be sexually provocative depictions of 22 year-olds or 19 year-olds or 17 year-olds or 14 year-olds, not of 85 year-olds. |
WatchTillTandavaJan 4, 1:51 AM
| Because anime seeks more of an aesthetic experience than an intellectual one. It prefers to appeal to the senses, intuition, and emotions of the viewer. It heavily relies on the appreciation of qualities like beauty, which is why there is so much focus on female sensuality and beauty in all its forms. It’s no coincidence that there is where the entire moe culture and the kawaii appeal originate. Don't fall into the trap of saying that if something doesn't advance the story or doesn't serve a didactic or moral purpose, it should be discarded. Don't people spend hours contemplating landscapes just because it tells them something specific, or it does? Both reacting to a beautiful backside and to a majestic mountain have their roots reach down into the same natural aesthetic sensitivity. That society has chosen to label one as vulgar and forbidden has little to do with its power to move us or bring us happiness. Moreover, if we were to base value solely on move the story, then we should also discard gags, flamboyant fight sequences, background music, or even a well-drawn cloud in the distance. Clearly, there are ulterior purposes in any work, such as entertainment, immersion, tone, aesthetic value... |
GnzaJan 3, 11:55 PM
| Anime are not "needed" in the first place. They exist to make their audience happy. And anime-watchers are made happy by a diverse range of things which differs greatly from person to person, but one thing which makes a proportion of viewers happy is sexy shots of anime girls. (Or, indeed, sexy shots of anime boys, for a different subgroup of viewers.) So you get anime which have those in when they're thinking about that subgroup of viewers. You could equally accuse streams of puns, or shots of beautiful sunsets, or frenetic action scenes of "doing absolutely nothing for the story". They're all in because people like them, even if there are also other people who may dislike or be bored by them. It's entertainment. |
| Damn 2.5d Ririsa doesn't need fan-service to make it good. I am not for censorship but saying it's bad because it his less horny than manga is crazy talk. The anime is carried by drama not ecchi. Very bad example |
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Eye candy - Plain and simple. From the perspective of those who enjoy and support its inclusion, it obviously isn't "unneeded", but very much needed and desirable.
As for myself, I'm relatively neutral or ambivalent. I'm fine with depiction of the most sexually explicit images and acts imaginable, yet I don't necessarily want excessive and goofy fanservice where it's not relevant in a way which detracts from focus on the story. But an occasional attractive or alluring shot isn't gratuitous or what I would qualify as distracting. It's a case by case basis.
The age factor isn't relevant. That has a very simple and obvious answer, which is that boys and men are biologically hardwired to find younger women and girls attractive, down to at least the age of developing mid-teenagers, so of course most are going to be sexually provocative depictions of 22 year-olds or 19 year-olds or 17 year-olds or 14 year-olds, not of 85 year-olds.
As for myself, I'm relatively neutral or ambivalent. I'm fine with depiction of the most sexually explicit images and acts imaginable, yet I don't necessarily want excessive and goofy fanservice where it's not relevant in a way which detracts from focus on the story. But an occasional attractive or alluring shot isn't gratuitous or what I would qualify as distracting. It's a case by case basis.
The age factor isn't relevant. That has a very simple and obvious answer, which is that boys and men are biologically hardwired to find younger women and girls attractive, down to at least the age of developing mid-teenagers, so of course most are going to be sexually provocative depictions of 22 year-olds or 19 year-olds or 17 year-olds or 14 year-olds, not of 85 year-olds.
| @WatchTillTandava You're making me debate if there should be some ecchi show with legit grannies....That would kind of be fun for a moment lol |
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You're making me debate if there should be some ecchi show with legit grannies....That would kind of be fun for a moment lol
You're making me debate if there should be some ecchi show with legit grannies....That would kind of be fun for a moment lol
| @traed I'd l;ike to see an anime just show its young female characters naked, nipples and all... in a mass bathing scene which also has plenty of grannies around, who also have nipples. The direction just showing it all passively, not emphasising anything in particular. Just to see what fandom makes of it. |
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@traed I'd l;ike to see an anime just show its young female characters naked, nipples and all... in a mass bathing scene which also has plenty of grannies around, who also have nipples. The direction just showing it all passively, not emphasising anything in particular. Just to see what fandom makes of it.
| @logopolis You mean casual nudity. I'd like casual nudity too if it weren't for the issue of Japan's and Tokyo's obscenity laws which ironically lead to framing it weird. |
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| Are you seriously asking why 2,5d seduction need more ecchi when it has "seduction" as the main title? lmao |
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OP, it's about time for you to ... |
DesuMaiden said: Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist. |
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| @Zarutaku to learn what? that men are swine and only care about boobs? i dont think thats the truth for all of us and i can only hope that media stops supporting portraying men as animals who only live to cater their drives.. |
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@Zarutaku
to learn what? that men are swine and only care about boobs? i dont think thats the truth for all of us and i can only hope that media stops supporting portraying men as animals who only live to cater their drives..
to learn what? that men are swine and only care about boobs? i dont think thats the truth for all of us and i can only hope that media stops supporting portraying men as animals who only live to cater their drives..
| @Wrathberry84 To learn that sexualization is nothing to complain about, it's a natural need just like eating food, and nobody complains about anime showing characters eating their bento, even though it's usually unneeded and does nothing for the story. |
DesuMaiden said: Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist. |
Wrathberry84 said: So this is a topic about sexualisation of women in anime where it does absolutly nothing to the story and has nothing to do with anything thats going on. First: I really understand that a show about incest needs to show incest, or it kinda does not do a good job portraying it. but here is what i mean: I talk about sexualisation of especialy young girls and women in anime where it has nothing to do with the plot and does not do anything for the anime. All that is accomplished by that is that the anime commnity is put in a really weired corner. Again i have nothing against sex, nudity and whatever in anime or manga where it fits the work. You cant do an anime about strippers, without showing naked girls/guys, you know what i mean. But there are a lot of shows which have absolutly nothing to do with sex and still need to show the girls from weird angles all the time to show pantys. Even shows like fairy tail need to show women constantly in nearly nothing. And of course all of them have giant boobs. Then there is the example of 2,5d seduction where a lot of people are complaining that there is not enough ecchi in it. Now my question: Why do you need to have ecchi in an anime about high school girls doing cosplay? Watch hentai if you want to see naked anime girls, i simply dont get it. Why do we need to ruin good storys with oversexualisation of women all the time? I get the appeal of anime sex, dont get me wrong and i understand why someone wants to see it, but why put it in shows where it does absolutly nothing for the story? "Why so much unneeded sexualisation of women in shounen/seinen anime?" you ask? Let's flip the script one moment and ask "Why so much unneeded sexualisation of men in BL/josei anime?" Now the answer to both is "the target audience enjoys it", and fair enough if you disagree with it, if it's not your thing, so long as your morals apply to both scenarios But if you come up with some logic bending argument of "there's not as many BL and josei as shounen and seinen" or "men don't get sexualized half as much as women so it's ok" or worse "they deserve it!", then i'm sorry to say, you're nothing but a massive hypocrite |
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