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| "Uh...the end...? Is that it?" is basically the only sentence running through my mind when reading the final chapter. The graduation is nice and all with Magari being well and alive, though an amicable ending this is kinda lackluster, though I appreciate Makoto Ojiro not going the usual route of "MCs wedding and such". Guess this only goes to show that the journey is as important as both the start and end of the destination. Overall, a great typical school romance series...right until that ending literally amounted to nothing much. |
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| A bit disappointed with the ending because I wanted more of what's happening in this 'adulthood' time-skip than just an open to interpretation kind of thing, almost felt like I'm reading the chapter of the usual than the latter, even though that's quite the author's thing with their previous works and this doesn't really change much. Hoping there could be extra chapters, even though I have no high hopes either, But nonetheless, it's been a journey. |
"......If I told you that I was a real witch, would you believe it?"  |
| as usual, author always prefer left to interpretation open ending so it was expected. great journey tho. seeing those children developed and grow up give me tear in my eyes. 9/10. |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| And here it is, the ending. I'm happy we got to see them after timeskip. It's a nice ending to the series and suits the manga and it's how Ojiro Makoto does things. Really enjoyed reading this manga. Another great piece of work from Ojiro Makoto. Looking forward to their next work. |
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nushrathumaira said: That’s it? It’s even less than what I thought would the last chapter be with the timeskip. I see magari doing well but is that it? I need more. KANLen09 said: "Uh...the end...? Is that it?" is basically the only sentence running through my mind when reading the final chapter. The graduation is nice and all with Magari being well and alive, though an amicable ending this is kinda lackluster, though I appreciate Makoto Ojiro not going the usual route of "MCs wedding and such". Guess this only goes to show that the journey is as important as both the start and end of the destination. Overall, a great typical school romance series...right until that ending literally amounted to nothing much. CQLLIST said: This is how Ojiro Makoto does things. I thought this sort of ending was obvious for this manga and it suits it too. Not always we need to be shown every little detail.A bit disappointed with the ending because I wanted more of what's happening in this 'adulthood' time-skip than just an open to interpretation kind of thing, almost felt like I'm reading the chapter of the usual than the latter, even though that's quite the author's thing with their previous works and this doesn't really change much. Hoping there could be extra chapters, even though I have no high hopes either, But nonetheless, it's been a journey. |
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MegamiRem said: the fact that we got at least 6 pages of time skip already more than all other ojiro series, lmao.nushrathumaira said: That’s it? It’s even less than what I thought would the last chapter be with the timeskip. I see magari doing well but is that it? I need more. KANLen09 said: "Uh...the end...? Is that it?" is basically the only sentence running through my mind when reading the final chapter. The graduation is nice and all with Magari being well and alive, though an amicable ending this is kinda lackluster, though I appreciate Makoto Ojiro not going the usual route of "MCs wedding and such". Guess this only goes to show that the journey is as important as both the start and end of the destination. Overall, a great typical school romance series...right until that ending literally amounted to nothing much. CQLLIST said: This is how Ojiro Makoto does things. I thought this sort of ending was obvious for this manga and it suits it too. Not always we need to be shown every little detail.A bit disappointed with the ending because I wanted more of what's happening in this 'adulthood' time-skip than just an open to interpretation kind of thing, almost felt like I'm reading the chapter of the usual than the latter, even though that's quite the author's thing with their previous works and this doesn't really change much. Hoping there could be extra chapters, even though I have no high hopes either, But nonetheless, it's been a journey. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| It ended and that too soon. Has anybody noticed how masterfully author potrayed Nakami in this final chapter??? We wouldn't see Nakami (I mean explicitly before us,he was present all the time though) in any panel until the time skip and I think it is like this chapter is making us see Nakami's perspective. Everyone's goodbye hit deep in heart. The story which started with the meeting of two insomniacs in a club room and ended with conveying dealing the challenges of life. Everything from start to end felt an amazing ride. They promised to meet in 12 yrs on certain occasion and manga just ended before our main duo going for it. Really wished if the whole group was shown after timeskip TT. Anyways I will take it as narrative decision which definitely hits in another way. Also ig Nono-Ukegawa and Anamizu- Haida was either happened off screen or just teased as it is. Anyways great story wished I have gotten into before anime but it's definitely has been such a insightful and inspiring journey. Also this single panel hits hard for some reason in a nostalgic way. A 10/10 sol manga which I enjoyed to fullest. Wishing s2 if it happens and definitely someday in future when I will be picking this manga again to relive the journey I hope I remember how much special this manga is to me. What an amazing group of cast, loved it!!! |
yameteKudasaiKunAug 20, 2023 10:31 PM
| I can’t be the only one who feels this way, can I? 100-ish good chapters and you ruin it in the last few? Rushed through Magari’s illness and wasted what could have been the most emotionally captivating part of this series… Immediately followed by a thoughtless, generic ending that gave me total whiplash. I got absolutely no closure for this series other than “Hey main girl is still alive!” What a disappointment. I love happy endings but this was just lazy. |
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| I feel a bit of disappointment. Nonetheless, I'm happy they have a future together since Magari seems like she’s doing fine. |
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| Kind of an unsatisfying ending. Showing adult Magari's face and everyone gathering to see the eclipse would've been much better imo. But other people are saying that this is how Ojiro Makoto always does things, so I suppose it can't be helped. Overall, a very sweet story with good characters. I also wish Ukegawa and Nono interacted more and got more spotlight, would've been a nice secondary ship. 9/10 |
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| Yeah the ending was kind of lackluster to be honest but it is good to see Magari and Nakamai have a future like that, a proper timeskip I think would have been better for the whole chapter. But hey, the manga overall was still incredible and definitely one of my favorites out there. The art, the emotions, the characters were all great and memorable and it gave me a rollercoaster of feelings reading this. The ending was my first and only real issue with the manga since I feel like it could have been better executed but besides that, I had none. I am seriously going to miss this, and hope Makoto Ojiro can return soon with another work that I'd most probably fall in love reading with. |
KnightTimaeus said: I was going to say something similar to what you said, but since you said it so well, I'll just agree 100% to what you said... :' )I can’t be the only one who feels this way, can I? 100-ish good chapters and you ruin it in the last few? Rushed through Magari’s illness and wasted what could have been the most emotionally captivating part of this series… Immediately followed by a thoughtless, generic ending that gave me total whiplash. I got absolutely no closure for this series other than “Hey main girl is still alive!” What a disappointment. I love happy endings but this was just lazy. |
| "Genki is Life, Genki is Love" |
| What an underwhelming and unsatisfying way to end things, tbh. Not enough loose ends taken care of and the timeskip could've been done far, far better. It was a fine manga overall, though, but not one I particularly find as memorable as I hoped. |
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| Man, it felt like yesterday when I started reading this. Can't believe it's over already. I really enjoyed reading this series. It was pretty unique to me in terms of its premiss, and it definitely didn't overstay its welcome. There wasn't really a dull point in the series to me. Whenever I saw that there was a new volume out, I'd make time to read it and would love every second of it. But now after reading these last few chapters, I'm left when that melancholy feeling you get when something draws to a close. I can never quite shake that feeling, no matter how many times I go through it. But with this one I'm feeling a bit more at ease then I usually do. Apparently the author has plans for a new series, so I'm pretty excited to see what they make next. In the meantime, I guess it's time to watch the anime. |
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| They're dead. Both of them. edit: NaturesProphet said: Lastly, the name of the chapter - Kuyo Star. I don't know if its the same word in the Japanese raws, but a google search gives me this. 供養 (kuyō) Meaning: memorial service for the dead; holding a service Even without thinking you just get "that feel" that there's something more to it. About Ganta appearing tired, maybe is just from work. That that's the only defense I'll make about not having something suspicious about it. Because I personally think this end confirms both, that Magari lived and died. Remember that they wish for 10 more years and the eclipse if 12 years after. The photos we saw him taking from her in this chapter is just like she asked him, photograph her and leave something behind. I think that Magari lived her full life fully and Ganta as besides her. There's not head to make it something sad, she live and she died, like she wanted. [[ [TO MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR TO EVERYONE HERE AND OUT OF HERE. That the series (and the mangaká in general as is her style) doesn't dramatize Magari's illness is a great part of the reason why this series is so special. This could have 20 more volumes, the mangaká would not dedicate many pages to showing Magari or any other character suffering because of her disease] ]] Yes, about the name of the chapter, it's "九曜の星 (kuyou no hoshi)". Don't know what this means, an internet search seems to think it's something related to hinduis:https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B9%9D%E6%9B%9C |
PaninaManinaAug 22, 2023 11:37 AM
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| Even though I found this to be a "fine" manga at the beginning with nothing really special, this is a lazy way to end things here honestly. Anyway, anime >> manga. |
031011Aug 27, 2023 9:47 AM
NaturesProphet said: Yeah, felt the same way. The author generally leaves it to open interpretation, but her stories generally had a happy ending, but this one truly felt like it had a sad on with them meeting for Magari's funeral.Reposting my comment from the reddit thread: Sorry to be a downer, went back to re-read this chapter multiple times and I think we got the bad ending. Some observations: The vibe post time skip feels really strange:
Next, the clothing:
Lastly, the name of the chapter - Kuyo Star. I don't know if its the same word in the Japanese raws, but a google search gives me this. 供養 (kuyō) Meaning: memorial service for the dead; holding a service So, the solar eclipse viewing is a memorial for... |
| Welp, that was a rather lackluster ending to one of my favourite series in a while. I wonder if the author ran out of ideas maybe? The last few chapters felt rather rushed with no real direction. |
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| It was such a thrill experiencing this from beginning to sorta pre-chapter 100, you can tell the author forced themselves to finish this as soon as possible god knows why.. :( I think Nakami deserved better, not in the story but as whole character, the author honestly butchered Nakami. It's so lame making him appear so weak that he openly avoids Magari when she needs him the most, for what reason? Because he felt like a burden and believes Magari's fate is his fault due to his past. That just makes his charater appear like a flawed douchebag who seemingly rejects his girlfriend because of her condition, it's like a father avoiding newborn child because it's autistic. Terrible decision by the author if you ask me, especially after developing Nakami so well. I'll probably get flamed for this - YLiA route would be a much better ending (aka Magari dies), it'd make the manga so impactful and unforgettable. This dull ending lacks depth, I'd rather end up with something memorable like the death of a character, I wonder if the author is too afraid of such route cause of Twitter backlash? I still love this manga regardless of that ending, the art style is incredibly aesthetic and sometimes we need manga that doesn't force drama. Random edit: Gave the first few arcs a re-read and it's still super fun with a quirky direction. I'm surprised this thread is so dead? Author really killed this manga with that dry ending |
EuroqeanJan 17, 1:45 PM
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It was such a thrill experiencing this from beginning to sorta pre-chapter 100, you can tell the author forced themselves to finish this as soon as possible god knows why.. :(
I think Nakami deserved better, not in the story but as whole character, the author honestly butchered Nakami. It's so lame making him appear so weak that he openly avoids Magari when she needs him the most, for what reason? Because he felt like a burden and believes Magari's fate is his fault due to his past. That just makes his charater appear like a flawed douchebag who seemingly rejects his girlfriend because of her condition, it's like a father avoiding newborn child because it's autistic. Terrible decision by the author if you ask me, especially after developing Nakami so well.
I'll probably get flamed for this - YLiA route would be a much better ending (aka Magari dies), it'd make the manga so impactful and unforgettable. This dull ending lacks depth, I'd rather end up with something memorable like the death of a character, I wonder if the author is too afraid of such route cause of Twitter backlash?
I still love this manga regardless of that ending, the art style is incredibly aesthetic and sometimes we need manga that doesn't force drama.
Random edit: Gave the first few arcs a re-read and it's still super fun with a quirky direction. I'm surprised this thread is so dead? Author really killed this manga with that dry ending
I think Nakami deserved better, not in the story but as whole character, the author honestly butchered Nakami. It's so lame making him appear so weak that he openly avoids Magari when she needs him the most, for what reason? Because he felt like a burden and believes Magari's fate is his fault due to his past. That just makes his charater appear like a flawed douchebag who seemingly rejects his girlfriend because of her condition, it's like a father avoiding newborn child because it's autistic. Terrible decision by the author if you ask me, especially after developing Nakami so well.
I'll probably get flamed for this - YLiA route would be a much better ending (aka Magari dies), it'd make the manga so impactful and unforgettable. This dull ending lacks depth, I'd rather end up with something memorable like the death of a character, I wonder if the author is too afraid of such route cause of Twitter backlash?
I still love this manga regardless of that ending, the art style is incredibly aesthetic and sometimes we need manga that doesn't force drama.
Random edit: Gave the first few arcs a re-read and it's still super fun with a quirky direction. I'm surprised this thread is so dead? Author really killed this manga with that dry ending
| @Euroqean I'm quite conflicted on this . The "Magari is dead " route do seem *better* for the ending, otherwise it would be quite a pointless chapter, and many evidences point to that, including the name of the chapter, the symbology of the moon , and Magari being the lunar princess so potentially some tale of woodcutter influences with Kaguya returning to the moon and the woodcutter waiting, Nakami's kanji name is part of the word for "wood log" after all . The way her face is hidden also heavily hints at Nakami unable to imagine an older Magari potentially ? At the same time, the " everyone is waiting for you" comment is quite odd - if the text was actually for *him* , then Nakami would comment something closer to " I guess she's not including you (as in Magari) in "everyone" ". If it was sent to him instead of Magari and the phone shown at the end was his cause magari is gone , then the comment doesn't make sense to me as it's quite normal to assume that "everyone is waiting for you to come" doesn't involve the person who received the message ? so it really makes sense only if the text was sent to Magari, and in stories with this kind of plot twist usually the imaginary person doesn't interact with the world beside with the person imagining them ... I'm very conflicted and i really hope the extra chapter just announced will bring some clarity to this . Idm things having a sad ending, and idm open ended endings either , but this feels *really* inconclusive |
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@Euroqean I'm quite conflicted on this . The "Magari is dead " route do seem *better* for the ending, otherwise it would be quite a pointless chapter, and many evidences point to that, including the name of the chapter, the symbology of the moon , and Magari being the lunar princess so potentially some tale of woodcutter influences with Kaguya returning to the moon and the woodcutter waiting, Nakami's kanji name is part of the word for "wood log" after all . The way her face is hidden also heavily hints at Nakami unable to imagine an older Magari potentially ?
At the same time, the " everyone is waiting for you" comment is quite odd - if the text was actually for *him* , then Nakami would comment something closer to " I guess she's not including you (as in Magari) in "everyone" ". If it was sent to him instead of Magari and the phone shown at the end was his cause magari is gone , then the comment doesn't make sense to me as it's quite normal to assume that "everyone is waiting for you to come" doesn't involve the person who received the message ? so it really makes sense only if the text was sent to Magari, and in stories with this kind of plot twist usually the imaginary person doesn't interact with the world beside with the person imagining them ...
I'm very conflicted and i really hope the extra chapter just announced will bring some clarity to this . Idm things having a sad ending, and idm open ended endings either , but this feels *really* inconclusive
At the same time, the " everyone is waiting for you" comment is quite odd - if the text was actually for *him* , then Nakami would comment something closer to " I guess she's not including you (as in Magari) in "everyone" ". If it was sent to him instead of Magari and the phone shown at the end was his cause magari is gone , then the comment doesn't make sense to me as it's quite normal to assume that "everyone is waiting for you to come" doesn't involve the person who received the message ? so it really makes sense only if the text was sent to Magari, and in stories with this kind of plot twist usually the imaginary person doesn't interact with the world beside with the person imagining them ...
I'm very conflicted and i really hope the extra chapter just announced will bring some clarity to this . Idm things having a sad ending, and idm open ended endings either , but this feels *really* inconclusive
| @Damascar The skit about him not being included in "everyone" is just him being nitpicky on words, as magari says. If "everyone" is waiting for him, then they are already "everyone" without him being there. The fact that he says "me" and not "us" actually confirms she's dead in my opinion. If she was alive, he would have also felt she got excluded from the "everyone" and would have used "us" instead. To me, this just shows him not having dealt with her death, feeling the need to imagine she's the one getting the message instead of him, as if she's there (that would also explain his worn-out unshaved face). I actually like this ending, it's poetic and gives way more than enough clues to guess what happened, without being the "now cry" kinda ending. It just gives an outlook on the death of a character that i feel we don't usually see |
Pyth79Oct 17, 2023 3:51 PM
| Many important bits remain unresolved ,the last few chapters took to shock drama ,uncharacteristic for the story and characters on how they were molded but overall it was a beautifull read.A trademark Ojiro manga keeping keeping the art simple,proportionate and charming. Goodluck to the Astronomy club in times to come . |
| Yeah can't disagree with the fact that this ending feels sudden/isn't helping much with a proper closure/left a lot to interpret, but if that's the way someone writes their work then let it be lol. It isn't really necessary to make sure someone does die if they have a heart disease or go through a life-threatening surgery, just for the sake of an emotional, gut wrenching ending, right? We've already been through them plenty. Though yes, the ending could've been better in terms of confirming Nakami and Magari's current status or a more properly placed timeskip, but to say it'd have been more impactful had Magari died or anything even remotely along those lines just feels incorrect. Though this series in general had one of the most beautiful depictions of high school life. For that alone, I won't stress much about this ending. |
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| Oh yay.. Another series ending ruined with the much loved trope of the "open ending". Seriously, modern media in general seem to like this brain dead ruinous trope, but Japanese creators seem to just adore it! No! I read your story for 124 chapters, I DO NOT want to "imagine" how your finished fucking story ended thank you! It's your story, your universe, not my imagination. Fanficing the ending feels completely unofficial and totally unsatisfying! There is nothing clever or "deep" about it. There is nothing profound or imaginative about it either! Getting people to think and talk about your series a little longer because they desire closure IS NOT true positive engagement or good story telling. It's lazy and a cop out in the best of cases. (where the writer is scared to give a defined ending, or are trying not to piss off people fanficing etc) Nor is there anything lazy, entitled or "cheap" ("spoon fed" charges etc) about expecting a long, non open and clearly defined story to have a clearly defined ending! (OC i'm not talking about cases where the state of things or the world are up in the air.. though as a writer, i think they should do their best to try to end a story conclusively. Just that leaving open clear details about things in an ending is unacceptable.. or should be! Especially little personal details about the main characters or relationship status etc.. that kind of thing is inexcusable!) And before anyone counters with some nonsense about chance based on "realism" or something.. please don't! "Realism" in fiction and storytelling is nonsensical.. as is concepts like chance. These are written narratives/stories, they aren't subject to random chance or events outside of author knowledge and control. Every single thing and aspect in existence in them is purposeful and intended! Yes, a writer can choose to write a story in this way but that doesn't mean it is random or unknown, nor does it mean they are doing an actual good job writing. As for the details. Well what can you say. Following every romance trope imaginable except the break up/time apart trope but that still kind of comes through in spirit since the author refuses to confirm anything related to relationship status. (Last minute out of nowhere force drama, check. Time skip with no relationship advancement, reset back to square one or nothing changed, check... etc etc.) Chapter 5/10 Ending: 2/10 Series: 7/10 (~8/10 without ending, 4/10 with it) I gave it such a high final rating in the end because of after story info confirmed from the author. But it should NEVER have to come to that.. But sadly so often does. (people so hell bent on forcing something epic that they leave out basic elements core to the work) Remind me never to waste my time with the author's future or past works! EDIT: lol at the edgelords complaining that they didn't kill off the main female character of a romance series for no reason... rollsfuckingeyes |
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