| They're drawings! I don't care what type of logic you try to use on me, it all gets thrown to the trash when you go back to the fact that, lolis are drawings! It's not like someone's going to hurt them, SENSE THEY AREN'T EVEN REAL! They don't have feelings or a nervious system. And if you actually believe people should be arrested for the possesion of loli hentai, you're an idiot. |
| In my country, being in posession of underage fictional pornography isn't even illegal, as long as they don't try represent a real life event and are considered purely fictional. |
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| officer, she's 598 years old i swear |
| People are somehow prone to moral outrage about anything sexual. Other than with hobbies like gaming where the act of killing people is used for entertainment purposes, anything sexual will not just be seen as a hobby, a pastime, but immediately linked to identity. Violence or other disturbing elements that can be part of hobbies are only treated like that - hobbies - while any kind of deviant sexual fetish is basically defining your identity. It's not seen as an isolated act or preference, because it's sexual and our society basically teaches us that sexuality = identity and depending on what you like sexually you 'are' different and the preference is seen as defining your identity even when you're not doing anything sexual. It is fucking stupid, but it's the logical way of reacting to something like lolicons as long as we live in a society that approaches sexuality like that, like being deeply linked to identity, more deeply than basically any other aspect. Who you wanna fuck or fap to is who you are. I mean, it isn't really, but that's how it's seen. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
FoeToeMoe said: And if you actually believe people should be arrested for the possesion of loli hentai, you're an idiot. Wait, don't you know if it's just a meme? |
| Because they are projecting, sometimes to the point of projecting to hide their sinister urges. |
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| Because people lack enough common sense to differentiate between fiction and reality. |
| The beauty of humans is that they say one thing then do another, but at the same time that can also be their ugliest side. |
Detective1412 said: FoeToeMoe said: And if you actually believe people should be arrested for the possesion of loli hentai, you're an idiot. Wait, don't you know if it's just a meme? "Any community that gets its laughs by acting like idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe they are in good company". In other words, some of them aren't joking. |
| Because they are children, even if it's fiction. It's a grey area but definitely a topic to talk about. |
| Because all this loli stuff can be illegal in some countries, y'know. |
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fuyuki said: Because it can be illegal in some countries, y'know. So something being illegal somewhere makes it automatically immoral? That's a very... unique point of view considering how many arbitrary and stupid laws there are all over the world. |
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Salokannel2 said: In my country, being in posession of underage fictional pornography isn't even illegal, as long as they don't try represent a real life event and are considered purely fictional. What country you are from? ---------- People care about morality with lolis because lolis looks like little kids. If you're a 55 years old man who likes drawings that looks like little kids, you're probably a pedo. And being a pedo isn't a good thing. |
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Pullman said: If it's illegal then it'll most likely make you cautious about what you're saying, that's what I mean.fuyuki said: Because it can be illegal in some countries, y'know. So something being illegal somewhere makes it automatically immoral? That's a very... unique point of view considering how many arbitrary and stupid laws there are all over the world. |
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Monster said: Because they are children, even if it's fiction. It's a grey area but definitely a topic to talk about. If it's fiction then that should just be the end of the story, IT'S FICTION! What kind of world is this where making lines on a piece of paper can get me thrown in the same place as drug dealers and murderers? |
| I swear I don't self-insert as the MC, I self insert as the loli desu |
| People care because they are a representation of underage girls. This loli debate happens so much. I can understand both sides of the argument, but i don't think either one is entirely right or wrong. There's the game debate, where just because you kill people in video games doesn't mean you want to do it in real life and the same would go for being sexually attracted to lolis. It doesn't mean they are going to go out and harm real children. But you have to admit, to be attracted to loli's even if it's just a drawing is a little creepy. In the end, while i do find the whole sexualization of underage girls creepy regardless of whether it's just a drawing or not. I do believe that not everyone who likes it is automatically a paedophile. Though i do think the chances are much higher of them being or becoming one, as the line between lolicon and paedophilia is very thin. In my opinion anyway, i'm by no means an expert on this topic. |
| because they're prepubescent children, i don't care if it's fictional, it's still disgusting. but at the same time, it should be legal because if it weren't for little anime girls/boys, lolicons/shotacons could actually be harming a child. but that's just my opinion. |
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FoeToeMoe said: Monster said: Because they are children, even if it's fiction. It's a grey area but definitely a topic to talk about. If it's fiction then that should just be the end of the story, IT'S FICTION! What kind of world is this where making lines on a piece of paper can get me thrown in the same place as drug dealers and murderers? Ever heard of the Cannibal Cop case? Thought crime is starting to be more and more of a thing. The guy ende dup being acquitted eventually, but initially he was still conviced for nothing but exactly that, lines on a piece of (digital) paper. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Saying people shouldn't be able to feel emotion/have a sense of morality because the work is fiction is a pretty lame excuse. Why do so many people cry in Clannad or YLiA if it's just drawings? Why do people tear up at the end of MGS3 if it's just polygons? Point is it doesn't matter if the source is fiction or not. (Most) people have emotional/moralistic values to any media they see and lolis are no different. As for going so far as getting arrested for possession of such. That's a whole different story so |
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FoeToeMoe said: Monster said: Because they are children, even if it's fiction. It's a grey area but definitely a topic to talk about. If it's fiction then that should just be the end of the story, IT'S FICTION! What kind of world is this where making lines on a piece of paper can get me thrown in the same place as drug dealers and murderers? "Why do people care so much about morality with lolis?" It's pretty surface level on why people care about morality, because they're children. They're obviously drawn like prepubescent kids, so it question the nature and intention to people that consume loli porn. I personally believe it's wrong to label people that consume fiction to actual cp in the same way. Anyway, I don't know about laws surrounding it which leaves you in illegal issues. That sounds pretty wrong as loli's and anime in general are not hyper-realistic drawings that resemble real people. |
Dlwuik said: because they're prepubescent children, i don't care if it's fictional, it's still disgusting. but at the same time, it should be legal because if it weren't for little anime girls/boys, lolicons/shotacons could actually be harming a child. but that's just my opinion. Yeah you brought up a different topic I wanted to bring, and that's that pedophilia will never go away, no matter how many pedophiles you kill or throw in jail, the percentage of them is gigantic, and that's only counting the pedophiles that have admited it. Lolicon/shotacon hentai is an incredibly simple fix for this, since pedophiles/lolicons could just jack off to that in their rooms and not act on their desires. |
| I Pullman said: FoeToeMoe said: If it's fiction then that should just be the end of the story, IT'S FICTION! What kind of world is this where making lines on a piece of paper can get me thrown in the same place as drug dealers and murderers? Ever heard of the Cannibal Cop case? Thought crime is starting to be more and more of a thing. The guy ende dup being acquitted eventually, but initially he was still conviced for nothing but exactly that, lines on a piece of (digital) paper. I had actually not heard about that but man is that a load of bullshit. |
Tomori_N said: FinlandSalokannel2 said: In my country, being in posession of underage fictional pornography isn't even illegal, as long as they don't try represent a real life event and are considered purely fictional. What country you are from? ---------- People care about morality with lolis because lolis looks like little kids. If you're a 55 years old man who likes drawings that looks like little kids, you're probably a pedo. And being a pedo isn't a good thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_drawn_pornography_depicting_minors |
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| I don't think anyone is out here trying to get people arrested for jerking off to some loli hentai.. but if you think you're above being judged by people for liking it, you're wrong. |
Salokannel2 said: Tomori_N said: FinlandWhat country you are from? ---------- People care about morality with lolis because lolis looks like little kids. If you're a 55 years old man who likes drawings that looks like little kids, you're probably a pedo. And being a pedo isn't a good thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_drawn_pornography_depicting_minors I'm from Finland too, that's why I asked. :D |
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| I just can not respect a work that sexualize children. I KNOW ITS A CARTOON, BUT IT IS STILL A REPRESENTATION OF A LITTLE KID, thus I find that very disgusting. It doesnnt even matter if its just writing(a text per say), if there is a portrayal of a little child being sexualized for the sake of making some virgin's dick hard, i can not respect that. |
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| Sure you won't get arrested since yes it is fictional, but at the end of the day you are still getting hot and bothered by characters that look like little girls so it's kinda gross. I'm not going to stop you, but it's weird. |
Tomori_N said: Yeah I kinda gathered that from your forum signature thingySalokannel2 said: Finland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_drawn_pornography_depicting_minors I'm from Finland too, that's why I asked. :D |
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GangstaYangWenli said: I just can not respect a work that sexualize children. I KNOW ITS A CARTOON, BUT IT IS STILL A REPRESENTATION OF A LITTLE KID, thus I find that very disgusting. It doesnnt even matter if its just writing(a text per say), if there is a portrayal of a little child being sexualized for the sake of making some virgin's dick hard, i can not respect that. I know that this argument has already been said, but I'll say it again. What about violent video games? Killing people is also morally incorrect. But what about when it's done in a video game, do you still think it's morally incorrect? |
| I don't know what people think, but I love all my lolis. They are in 2D so I don't think there's a problem, It's totally legal in my imagination lol so, f*ck with them :3 |
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Monster said: Because they are children, even if it's fiction. It's a grey area but definitely a topic to talk about. Yeah, even if "THEY AREN'T EVEN REAL! They don't have feelings or a nervous system." (original post). It can be a disturbing topic for some people regardless of fiction or not. |
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| People project worldly desires into anything, give or take, even if they are drawings, nonetheless, they are drawings that looks like kids in where being a child is the trait people like them. Not saying it always border to reality, but certainly a line is written somewhere. EDIT: Goddamn typo |
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Tomori_N said: People care about morality with lolis because lolis looks like little kids. If you're a 55 years old man who likes drawings that looks like little kids, you're probably a pedo. And being a pedo isn't a good thing. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I like how there's a new style going on, where probability without any actual basis is enough for people to draw conclusions now. Probability isn't fact and without basis it's a 50/50 guess at best. You either are or aren't and fiction doesn't make you one, real life does. Going by your logic most moe fans are also probably pedos, even though most of them probably haven't touched a kid in their life. You see where this is going. You don't know it, you're just making blind assumptions. |
| The beauty of humans is that they say one thing then do another, but at the same time that can also be their ugliest side. |
| Honestly It's already disgusting with this problem for a long time. In one hand, loli tags in HH or Hentai2Read is one of my favourite. Then loli in Hentai form doesnt looks unhappy with that :3. In other hand, we all know that loli hentai is the represtantion the sexualize of a little kid(s), morality issues, and so-so So, i think its better to hide your possesion with loli hentai or police might came to your house. Your're just minority here |
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| I fuck kiddies on the reg and even I think lowlicons should be in bars. |
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Pullman said: FoeToeMoe said: If it's fiction then that should just be the end of the story, IT'S FICTION! What kind of world is this where making lines on a piece of paper can get me thrown in the same place as drug dealers and murderers? Ever heard of the Cannibal Cop case? Thought crime is starting to be more and more of a thing. The guy ende dup being acquitted eventually, but initially he was still conviced for nothing but exactly that, lines on a piece of (digital) paper. Why am i not surprised that this happened in America. They never cease to amaze. |
| The beauty of humans is that they say one thing then do another, but at the same time that can also be their ugliest side. |
FoeToeMoe said: I Pullman said: Ever heard of the Cannibal Cop case? Thought crime is starting to be more and more of a thing. The guy ende dup being acquitted eventually, but initially he was still conviced for nothing but exactly that, lines on a piece of (digital) paper. I had actually not heard about that but man is that a load of bullshit. It's a quick read on Wikipedia and it's pretty baffling. I suggest you google it. Oh, his appeal got through and he won in court. He's free. Though the dude spent 2 years in prison for doing nothing, what a retarded lawsuit. |
| The beauty of humans is that they say one thing then do another, but at the same time that can also be their ugliest side. |
AstZero said: Tomori_N said: People care about morality with lolis because lolis looks like little kids. If you're a 55 years old man who likes drawings that looks like little kids, you're probably a pedo. And being a pedo isn't a good thing. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I like how there's a new style going on, where probability without any actual basis is enough for people to draw conclusions now. Probability isn't fact and without basis it's a 50/50 guess at best. You either are or aren't and fiction doesn't make you one, real life does. Going by your logic most moe fans are also probably pedos, even though most of them probably haven't touched a kid in their life. You see where this is going. You don't know it, you're just making blind assumptions. I even think pedos aren't necessarily bad people, but that's a different topic.  |
Detective1412 said: FoeToeMoe said: And if you actually believe people should be arrested for the possesion of loli hentai, you're an idiot. Wait, don't you know if it's just a meme? Oh trust me, there are definitely people out there who don't think it's a meme, and genuinely believe you should rot in a jail cell for it. |
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FoeToeMoe said: AstZero said: Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I like how there's a new style going on, where probability without any actual basis is enough for people to draw conclusions now. Probability isn't fact and without basis it's a 50/50 guess at best. You either are or aren't and fiction doesn't make you one, real life does. Going by your logic most moe fans are also probably pedos, even though most of them probably haven't touched a kid in their life. You see where this is going. You don't know it, you're just making blind assumptions. I even think pedos aren't necessarily bad people, but that's a different topic. I kind of disagree but whatever, not the place or time for that discussion. |
| The beauty of humans is that they say one thing then do another, but at the same time that can also be their ugliest side. |
| this thread is absolutely haram disillusioned weebs actually think kiddie porn drawings are a-ok |
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planet- said: this thread is absolutely haram disillusioned weebs actually think kiddie porn drawings are a-ok 50 years ago being gay was almost illegal. There were PSAs on TV telling you why being gay was wrong and what to do if you encountered a gay person. I'm not gonna tell you much since you're obviously new to the anime scene, all I'm gonna say is, keep an open mind. |
| Lolis are fictional so you shouldn't feel bad about it. |
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| The problem is any sexual activity with a child is wrong in the real world so when something like Loli shows up its obviously uncomfortable. It's how society is. CP is a big no no, so when a cartoon starts doing it scares and disgusts people as it should be. Also it is not fair to compare violence in anime with Loli as violence is completely different. Violence depicts death, and damage or destruction. 2 completely different topics with little correlation. Sexual content can go hand in hand with violence but sexual content isn't necessarily violent. Whether or not violence should be depicted is a different story all together. |
| warning this idiot is a professional retard |
Krayken said: The problem is any sexual activity with a child is wrong in the real world so when something like Loli shows up its obviously uncomfortable. It's how society is. CP is a big no no, so when a cartoon starts doing it scares and disgusts people as it should be. Also it is not fair to compare violence in anime with Loli as violence is completely different. Violence depicts death, and damage or destruction. 2 completely different topics with little correlation. Sexual content can go hand in hand with violence but sexual content isn't necessarily violent. Whether or not violence should be depicted is a different story all together. >Also it is not fair to compare violence in anime with Loli as violence is completely different. It is a pretty fair comparison considering that when you kill a person in a video game, no one in real life actually dies, just like how when a lolicon jacks off to a loli, no kid in real life is being harmed. |
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