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Dec 26, 2016 3:13 AM
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It looks like its yaoi i get that yaoi feeling... when victor and yuri does something yaoi-ish like. Although i hate YAOI! the story is what keeps me from watching it. Because its SPORTS!!!! please dont hate on me... XD
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It might as well be since it panders to the fujoshi/BL crowd way too much. I guess the title 'Yaoi!! On Ice' didn't sound too subtle enough.
Dec 26, 2016 3:20 AM
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Only the fandom makes the anime gay. There is no yaoi action in the show (I've just finished watching it recently).
Dec 26, 2016 3:22 AM
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It's not yaoi, but there is romance between the two mcs.
Dec 26, 2016 3:23 AM
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Full homo just keep watching lol....
Dec 26, 2016 3:24 AM
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not yaoi, just very gay...........
Dec 26, 2016 3:27 AM
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idk why it's not even shounen ai even though it's blatant fujo fanservice anime

Genres: Comedy, Sports

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Dec 26, 2016 3:39 AM
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Its acronym is YoI. That's one letter away from yaoi. Coincidence? Yes.
Dec 26, 2016 3:45 AM
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If Yuri on Ice is Yaoi then every single romance shoujo anime is Hentai.

pls educate urselfs ppl thanks.
Dec 26, 2016 3:46 AM

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No. But it has a crap ton of gay undertones.
Dec 26, 2016 3:46 AM

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To me idk why they are making it yaoi just look at them blushing man to man ugh....



Dec 26, 2016 3:50 AM

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Dec 26, 2016 3:54 AM
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Doesn't there have to be actual sex for it to count as yaoi? Wouldn't just romance be shounen ai instead?
Dec 26, 2016 3:55 AM

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If Yuri on Ice is Yaoi then every single romance shoujo anime is Hentai.

I haven't seen this anime and I haven't seen any yoai. But I am curious, from technical perspective, why would this anime not be yoai? People who watched it (including people in this very thread) state that there is a romantic relationship between two males (or strong implications of that), which would technically make it yoai. The definition of yoai is "romantic or sexual relationships between male characters". It doesn't need to be porn to classify as yoai.
Dec 26, 2016 4:01 AM
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Sports/Shounen Ai/Drama/Comedy sounds about right
Dec 26, 2016 4:06 AM

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Yes it is you should stop watching now or you might become gay too
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ahoyanen said:
Mintchi said:
If Yuri on Ice is Yaoi then every single romance shoujo anime is Hentai.

I haven't seen this anime and I haven't seen any yoai. But I am curious, from technical perspective, why would this anime not be yoai? People who watched it (including people in this very thread) state that there is a romantic relationship between two males (or strong implications of that), which would technically make it yoai. The definition of yoai is "romantic or sexual relationships between male characters". It doesn't need to be porn to classify as yoai.


"Yaoi (/ˈjaʊi/; Japanese: γ‚„γŠγ„, Japanese: [ja.o.i]), primarily known as Boys' Love (BL) in Japan, is a Japanese genre of fictional media focusing on romantic or sexual relationships between male characters"

Is what you read up right? Shounen Ai is probably what you are thinking of though. Yaoi is like a super exaggarated (i will never learn how to spell this word, I apologize orz) version of shounen ai . Actually, I can't really find the words to explain what I mean but just check up the Yaoi genre on myanimelist and you will see that every anime on there is in fact rated 18+.

Yuri on Ice focuses on the development of a person and how another person can positively change a life that has been awful before.
In fact, if I would have to put a genre on this, besides sports I would probably put the drama genre on it since the romantic relationship between Yuri and Victor (which was confirmed by Yamamoto sensei, the creator, so you're right that there is a relationship) is not in focus. At least for me.
Throughout the anime the whole romantic relationship is also only hinted. To be fair, a lot of people could watch it without even understanding why everybody is thinking "omg is this yaoi".

To me it's just a story about a person trying to emotionally grow and get over their anxiety. I'm not a native english speaker but I hope you can kinda understand where I'm coming from orz
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Mintchi said:
ahoyanen said:

I haven't seen this anime and I haven't seen any yoai. But I am curious, from technical perspective, why would this anime not be yoai? People who watched it (including people in this very thread) state that there is a romantic relationship between two males (or strong implications of that), which would technically make it yoai. The definition of yoai is "romantic or sexual relationships between male characters". It doesn't need to be porn to classify as yoai.


"Yaoi (/ˈjaʊi/; Japanese: γ‚„γŠγ„, Japanese: [ja.o.i]), primarily known as Boys' Love (BL) in Japan, is a Japanese genre of fictional media focusing on romantic or sexual relationships between male characters"

Is what you read up right? Shounen Ai is probably what you are thinking of though. Yaoi is like a super exaggarated (i will never learn how to spell this word, I apologize orz) version of shounen ai . Actually, I can't really find the words to explain what I mean but just check up the Yaoi genre on myanimelist and you will see that every anime on there is in fact rated 18+.

Yuri on Ice focuses on the development of a person and how another person can positively change a life that has been awful before.
In fact, if I would have to put a genre on this, besides sports I would probably put the drama genre on it since the romantic relationship between Yuri and Victor (which was confirmed by Yamamoto sensei, the creator, so you're right that there is a relationship) is not in focus. At least for me.
Throughout the anime the whole romantic relationship is also only hinted. To be fair, a lot of people could watch it without even understanding why everybody is thinking "omg is this yaoi".

To me it's just a story about a person trying to emotionally grow and get over their anxiety. I'm not a native english speaker but I hope you can kinda understand where I'm coming from orz

I just noticed I misspelled the "yaoi" wrong 4 times in my post! :D

Well I just know the definition and according to the definition it fits the category. As you have said, it might not be primary focus of the show. However, the fact is that if it is there is some form of romantic relationship between two males, it can be classified as one.
Dec 26, 2016 4:21 AM
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Of course it is. If not a yaoi, it surely is a shonen-ai. Yuri on Ice is a favorite for fujoshis.
Dec 26, 2016 4:23 AM
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Yaoi focus more on the sexual aspects of a relationship. In this way the show is much closer to shonen ai - which focuses on the romantic relationship. But it is definitely not yaoi.
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Inb4 this thread gets locked for it ridiculous topic , Seriously guys, this community gets stupid everyday with its threads and topics (=.=)

Ofc it got that Shounen Ai anD Vibe but its only genres are Comedy Sports...No SHOUNEN AI to be found
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Dec 26, 2016 6:11 AM

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Yaoi = sexual male x male relationship
Shounen-ai = romantic relationship, or not even romantic at all (could just be guys who are very close)

Might as well be shounen-ai, at least.
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Dec 26, 2016 6:32 AM

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Because you totally couldn't have posted this in the yuri on ice forums...
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Let's look at the general usage of the genre of Yaoi and Shounen-ai, shall we?

Yaoi - Usually slapped on to stories with very clear definition of the seme and uke dynamic in the relationship. Seme - dominant (male), uke - submissive (female). Themes are usually always about trashy bad romance and getting a quick kick. Relationship development is usually bad, and reflects poorly of real life human relationship. Explicit. Think of this as cheap ecchi.

Shounen ai - Presence of the dominant and submissive dynamic again. Presence of a plot, but seems to always butt head with the romance. Romance is usually done bad. Think of a typical poorly written romance anime.

In short, the terms yaoi and shounen ai are usually associated with bad relationship development, abusive relationships and highly fetishized crap that under normal circumstances, should have the court involved in a restraining order. It really is just for kicks. You entertain these genre when you really, really, really want that M x M relationship because you literally have nothing else.

Yuri!!! On Ice - Surprisingly, no dominant and submissive dynamic! This show has the closest reflection of a real life gay anime couple. Story doesn't butt head with the plot. The development and relationship is completely healthy and two-sided.

It's so un-yaoi, un-shounen ai, that some argue it should be disqualified from being labelled as that. But the romance is only half of the story.

My guess the only reason it's not labelled as romance is because it's between two guys, really.
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HueyLion said:
Inb4 this thread gets locked for it ridiculous topic , Seriously guys, this community gets stupid everyday with its threads and topics (=.=)

Ofc it got that Shounen Ai anD Vibe but its only genres are Comedy Sports...No SHOUNEN AI to be found

Actually, the creator said back in August on her twitter she didn't want the shounen ai tag because she though it should be normalized and that she just wanted to write a story that didn't have an average heterosexual romance
Dec 26, 2016 4:45 PM

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No. Yaoi has always sex scene somewhere since it's erotic or pornographic in nature. Yuri on ice has romance between two men, but is no more yaoi than Nana or Emma etc. are hentai. Yaoi and shonen-ai has some package and tropes as well that don't exist in YOI cause creators made effort to make romance normalized so I'd add romance tag myself next to sport and comedy. Also adding yaoi or shonen-ai tag to all same-sex relationships would make them sound like fetish instead of actual romances.
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Screagle said:
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Inb4 this thread gets locked for it ridiculous topic , Seriously guys, this community gets stupid everyday with its threads and topics (=.=)

Ofc it got that Shounen Ai anD Vibe but its only genres are Comedy Sports...No SHOUNEN AI to be found

Actually, the creator said back in August on her twitter she didn't want the shounen ai tag because she though it should be normalized and that she just wanted to write a story that didn't have an average heterosexual romance
nah, she just wants more potential viewerbase, ur stupid if you believe otherwise lol

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Dec 26, 2016 7:18 PM
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please dont call it yaoi... the yaoi genre is riddled with issues and focuses SOLELY on romantic/sexual relationships between guys and often has squicky abusive undertones or weird things about whos in the 'girls' role, as its written by straight women with no real grasp of how gay relationships work irl. yuuri on ice is directed by a woman who has directed shows in the past dealing with themes on gender identity and sexuality (lupin iii a woman called fujiko mine & michiko to hatchin) and written by woman who has said she finds beauty in all relationships.

yuri on ice is a sports anime with a gay (or in this case bisexual) lead. thats it. its not yaoi or BL and not shounen ai, or itd be labelled as such. but if youre wondering if yuuri and victor are in a relationship, id say yeah, obviously. the writer (kubo-sensei) confirmed it on her twitter in case anyone (for some reason) had doubts. no matter your opinions on the quality on the series itself, you must be blind to think victor and yuuri arent together after watching this show.
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Just finished watching season one so can tell you that as per the definition here it is not YAOI.
You will find (sometimes very strong) Shouen Ai elements but they are not the whole story.
The fandom is reading a lot more into things than is actually getting confirmed.
So if you want to just enjoy the character development and a nice story go somewhere where they don't have a comment section. The gay thoughts are all over the place there.
I think you can deny a lot of the Shouen Ai elements if you just squeeze your eyes just right.

Tbh, I loved watching it for the whole package incl fandom.
But I am a YAOI veteran by now... Still, give it a try. The gaynest won't kill you. (;
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For it to be Yaoi it has to have sex in it. You're thinking of BL or Shounen-Ai.
I think the reason it doesn't have the category is because this wasn't really written as a romance (ironically). While there's romance in it (lots and lots of symbolism and subtext), the primary goal has always been that the main character win a gold medal in his sport. It'd be no different as sports movies who have the dude get a girlfriend by the end.
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It's not a yaoi and I might not even call it shounen ai or BL. I will say it's just as much about Yuri's skating career as it is about Yuri exploring his sexuality, what love means to him, and self confidence. He explores that through his interactions with Victor, who just happens to be male.

Nothing is forced though; everything happens pretty naturally-- so much that there shouldn't be much to complain about since by the time it happens you'll hopefully be thinking, "That's how it should be". Unless you project your own insecurities or personal problems onto the show-- which is understandably hard not to do, but if you're completely open, there shouldn't be a problem with whatever develops. Because really, nothing that happens is wrong, nor does it impose; everything happens because it's naturally happens.

I don't know if that helps, but I really want people to give this a try, because despite anything folks might have a problem with in this anime, I have to say that this anime works its character interaction wonderfully. I've never seen an anime work it so organically. I only have a complaint about one character and a few really side characters so far.

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It looks like its yaoi i get that yaoi feeling... when victor and yuri does something yaoi-ish like. Although i hate YAOI! the story is what keeps me from watching it. Because its SPORTS!!!!


No shit sherlock ... By now the entire community knows its BL -_- ...

LMFAO !
well, people claiming that isn't BL/Yaoi I wonder what they would give a wedding ring to just any person ? (referred to Yuri and Victor)
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HAHA 8.61 score for this Yaoi anime . On the serious note, I didn;t expect MAL to become a troll forum
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Like people already pointed out it's not really a yaoi, more like a sports anime with BL elements.
But if you dislike fluffy cute moments between males you probably won't enjoy it.
Dec 28, 2016 9:25 AM
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This feeling when Yuri and Victor together alone is always yaoi-sh!
it's yaoi.it's confirmed ;-;
Dec 28, 2016 11:44 PM

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yeah um victor and yuuri's relationship are integral to the show, so it is technically BL. but it focuses a lot more on figure skating obviously.
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It's not yaoi, but there's a lot of lovey dovey moments between Victor and Yuri which I adore.
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its not yaoi/shounen ai, (these are generes aimed at fujijoshis) just a sports anime with gay characters.
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It's not. They tease it a lot but never confirm the gay even to the end.
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AniDeMax said:
It looks like its yaoi i get that yaoi feeling... when victor and yuri does something yaoi-ish like. Although i hate YAOI! the story is what keeps me from watching it. Because its SPORTS!!!! please dont hate on me... XD


I dont like yaoi either! You are not alone.

I'm surprised you like Haikyuu with the fanbase it has. They'd give you the impression Haikyuu was yaoi too until you actually watch it.

That's why I'm going to watch Yuri on Ice and give it a chance. I've wanted to see it since it was announced.
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If Yuri on Ice is Yaoi then every single romance shoujo anime is Hentai.

I haven't seen this anime and I haven't seen any yoai. But I am curious, from technical perspective, why would this anime not be yoai? People who watched it (including people in this very thread) state that there is a romantic relationship between two males (or strong implications of that), which would technically make it yoai. The definition of yoai is "romantic or sexual relationships between male characters". It doesn't need to be porn to classify as yoai.


That is because the main genre of Yuri!!! on Ice is a sport. The romance is not the main focus of the anime. Sure, it helps the plot. But at the end of the day, YoI is about Yuri trying to become a better skater and win the final. I mean, there are a bunch of shounen anime out there with background romances that are never labelled as a romance, so why would YoI need to be labelled as a yaoi if the romance aspect is never the main focus of the anime?
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I haven't seen this anime and I haven't seen any yoai. But I am curious, from technical perspective, why would this anime not be yoai? People who watched it (including people in this very thread) state that there is a romantic relationship between two males (or strong implications of that), which would technically make it yoai. The definition of yoai is "romantic or sexual relationships between male characters". It doesn't need to be porn to classify as yoai.


That is because the main genre of Yuri!!! on Ice is a sport. The romance is not the main focus of the anime. Sure, it helps the plot. But at the end of the day, YoI is about Yuri trying to become a better skater and win the final. I mean, there are a bunch of shounen anime out there with background romances that are never labelled as a romance, so why would YoI need to be labelled as a yaoi if the romance aspect is never the main focus of the anime?

Well male-male romance doesn't have to be the focus. If there is some male-male romance, it can be technically labelled as yaoi. Sure, not as primary genre, but it still falls into the category. My point is that one anime can naturally fall into multiple categories.
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No, it's not YAOI.
It gives gay vibes like there are something between main characters which happen to be males. None of the author nor the company publisher ever make it official.

It's more like "It's up to your imagination."

So, if you are fujoshi or imaginative, you will see them as a couple.

If you are not into something like that or fujoshi but like things to be more clear, you just don't know and can't see anything more than platonic/deep relationship between them.
I personally don't care it's gay or hetero relationship as long as they are official they are official. We can't judge more.

If you were very close to someone but no romatic feeling involved you wouldn't want people to calling you guys lovers right? Unless you really did tell them you were a couple.

Yuri on Ice no doubt, a must watch anime in 2016 and 2017. I always pray for a second season where we can see more Victor's on ice action and more cute moments of Victor and Yuuri.
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That is because the main genre of Yuri!!! on Ice is a sport. The romance is not the main focus of the anime. Sure, it helps the plot. But at the end of the day, YoI is about Yuri trying to become a better skater and win the final. I mean, there are a bunch of shounen anime out there with background romances that are never labelled as a romance, so why would YoI need to be labelled as a yaoi if the romance aspect is never the main focus of the anime?

Well male-male romance doesn't have to be the focus. If there is some male-male romance, it can be technically labelled as yaoi. Sure, not as primary genre, but it still falls into the category. My point is that one anime can naturally fall into multiple categories.


It could be labeled as romance or shonen-ai as genre, but not yaoi. It doesn't have sex scene(s) nor the age rating is high enough.
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It just seems. it is not...


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That is because the main genre of Yuri!!! on Ice is a sport. The romance is not the main focus of the anime. Sure, it helps the plot. But at the end of the day, YoI is about Yuri trying to become a better skater and win the final. I mean, there are a bunch of shounen anime out there with background romances that are never labelled as a romance, so why would YoI need to be labelled as a yaoi if the romance aspect is never the main focus of the anime?

Well male-male romance doesn't have to be the focus. If there is some male-male romance, it can be technically labelled as yaoi. Sure, not as primary genre, but it still falls into the category. My point is that one anime can naturally fall into multiple categories.


In that case why aren't shows like Naruto, Bleach and Fullmetal Alchemist have a romance label? They all have characters that fall in love. Should that not be considered as romance? In that case, even Corpse Party should have a romance label since practically all of the main characters have a love interest...
But that doesn't happen. Because that would be really misleading, since the point of those animes. They all fit into their own genres with aspects of romance woven into the background.
This applies to YoI too. The point of the anime is not about how the relationship between Victor and Yuri develops. It's about how Yuri wants to better himself as a skater and win the Grand prix...
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Well male-male romance doesn't have to be the focus. If there is some male-male romance, it can be technically labelled as yaoi. Sure, not as primary genre, but it still falls into the category. My point is that one anime can naturally fall into multiple categories.


It could be labeled as romance or shonen-ai as genre, but not yaoi. It doesn't have sex scene(s) nor the age rating is high enough.

The definition of yaoi is "romantic or sexual relationships between male characters".
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ahoyanen said:

Well male-male romance doesn't have to be the focus. If there is some male-male romance, it can be technically labelled as yaoi. Sure, not as primary genre, but it still falls into the category. My point is that one anime can naturally fall into multiple categories.


In that case why aren't shows like Naruto, Bleach and Fullmetal Alchemist have a romance label? They all have characters that fall in love. Should that not be considered as romance? In that case, even Corpse Party should have a romance label since practically all of the main characters have a love interest...
But that doesn't happen. Because that would be really misleading, since the point of those animes. They all fit into their own genres with aspects of romance woven into the background.
This applies to YoI too. The point of the anime is not about how the relationship between Victor and Yuri develops. It's about how Yuri wants to better himself as a skater and win the Grand prix...

Well of course you can label them romance but the fact is that there is so little of it and there so many other labels that are dominant and comes first (action, comedy, martial arts, superpowers) that romance it is neglectable.

I assume (I haven't seen it) that in this Yuri on Ice romance label may be very hight on the list. It might come even immediately after sports label? How many more dominant labels would you put after sports and before romance?
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ahoyanen said:
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It could be labeled as romance or shonen-ai as genre, but not yaoi. It doesn't have sex scene(s) nor the age rating is high enough.

The definition of yaoi is "romantic or sexual relationships between male characters".


With age rating 18+, it's very particular genre. If you go to yaoi part of anime conventions stalls you will get pornographic material. And in this site either animes with romantic relationships between male characters aren't tagged yaoi unless they have sex.
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