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Jul 8, 2016 12:33 PM
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Dicaprio tried making an Akira movie, Tobey McGuire tried to make a Robotech movie, Spielberg an Eva movie, monster was supposed to be adapted into an HBO series, Keanu Reeves was supposed to make a Cowboy Bebop movie, etc etc but they all fell through and ended up in development hell. The only anime American adaptation I can think of so far is the Dragonball movie, which was a failure both critically and commercially. Now ghost in the shell is actually being made, and it's coming out soon...this is huge cause after the Dragonball failure, it seemed like Hollywood wasn't willing to bet on anime adaptations anymore. This is basically a test for Hollywood studios, If GiTS is successful, expect to see a wave of more anime adapted into American media
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Jul 8, 2016 12:37 PM
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I don't really think anime can be adapted well in live-action movies.
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darkbritishmagic said:
I don't really think anime can be adapted well in live-action movies.


This ^^^

I wouldnt adapt Anime into movies either

But directors can do whatever they want
Jul 8, 2016 12:39 PM
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darkbritishmagic said:
I don't really think anime can be adapted well in live-action movies.
Well you're not a filmmaker and it hasn't been attempted yet except for low budget Japanese movies.

I think GITS will be a really good telling if American media can properly translate anime to live action.
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Jul 8, 2016 12:43 PM
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What are the chances of GitS turning out alright? They've been buttfucking the franchise since Innocence (and I still get Vietnam flashbacks from Arise) and now a western movie adaptation? It's most likely going to suck.
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Jul 8, 2016 12:46 PM
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darkbritishmagic said:
I don't really think anime can be adapted well in live-action movies.
Well you're not a filmmaker and it hasn't been attempted yet except for low budget Japanese movies.

I think GITS will be a really good telling if American media can properly translate anime to live action.


It has been attempted though. There was live-action Dragon Ball movie and we all know how that turned out to be, and also even though technically not an anime, Avatar:The Last Airbender also had an live-action adaptation that was completely horrible. I think anime is just too unrealistic to be made live-action, I mean maybe you could enjoy it if your suspension of disbelief is really high.
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Jul 8, 2016 12:53 PM
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i'm pretty sure anime movies will be the next Superhero movies in terms of adaptability. Once a producer see's one thing is successful he goes back to the formula tries to reproduce what he's created & all the other studio execs try to mimic what they've done as well.

look at the explosion of superhero movies. you had X-men, which was the 1st big critically & commercially acclaimed superhero film since Burton's Batman movies. then a wave were released afterwards of people trying to duplicate or outmatch it's success: spiderman, fantastic four, daredevil, batman begins & countless others.

so basically, once one anime/manga based movie comes out that achieves critical & commercial success we'll see a wave of them. with that said, i doubt GITS will be the one to bring it on, the talent behind that movie is unassuring to say the least.
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Jul 8, 2016 12:54 PM
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If Hollywood does decide to try and adapt anime, then they should start with something that they are capable of making without having to go over the top. The adaptation of All You Need is Kill (Edge of Tomorrow) did pretty well, so it's not like they're incapable of making adaptations. They just have take it slowly before they try something big.
Jul 8, 2016 12:57 PM
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I don't care either way. Hollywood usually doesn't impress me to begin with. I've always had a feeling that they put their profits over the actual story of most movies that come out of there. On the other hand that doesn't mean they never produce worthwhile movies either, so one day we might get lucky with a good adaptation if they keep treading that path.
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Dicaprio tried making an Akira movie, Tobey McGuire tried to make a Robotech movie, Spielberg an Eva movie, monster was supposed to be adapted into an HBO series, Keanu Reeves was supposed to make a Cowboy Bebop movie, etc etc but they all fell through and ended up in development hell. The only anime American adaptation I can think of so far is the Dragonball movie, which was a failure both critically and commercially. Now ghost in the shell is actually being made, and it's coming out soon...this is huge cause after the Dragonball failure, it seemed like Hollywood wasn't willing to bet on anime adaptations anymore. This is basically a test for Hollywood studios, If GiTS is successful, expect to see a wave of more anime adapted into American media

Maybe. I think a lot of popular anime are fairly unlikely to be adapted - but stories like Ghost in the Shell, sure.
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Jul 8, 2016 12:57 PM

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Horrible, unless they are careful and choose anime that they can adapt without whitewashing and yes it's possible, they also have to find anime that work well in live action form. Heroman for example can be made into a live action easy.


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I feel like Netflix´s Death Note adaptation and Del Toro´s Monster will be pretty decisive as to whether anime adaptations can be succesful or not in the west, as both of them(specially Monster) are extreme opposites of what the average person thinks anime is. Also because i think Del Toro can actually make it good
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I feel like Netflix´s Death Note adaptation and Del Toro´s Monster will be pretty decisive as to whether anime adaptations can be succesful or not in the west, as both of them(specially Monster) are extreme opposites of what the average person thinks anime is. Also because i think Del Toro can actually make it good
Monster isn't going to happen anymore. And I haven't heard of anything about death note as far as actually going into production.

I think they're probably waiting on seeing how audiences respond to GiTS before they actually take that plunge and start investing money into it
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Jul 8, 2016 1:40 PM

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if it can be adapted correctly then why not? But hollywood has shown that it sucks at adapting anime
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Kouun said:
I feel like Netflix´s Death Note adaptation and Del Toro´s Monster will be pretty decisive as to whether anime adaptations can be succesful or not in the west, as both of them(specially Monster) are extreme opposites of what the average person thinks anime is. Also because i think Del Toro can actually make it good


i don't like monster but i like GDT. he would of made that show amazing. i'd like to see him try his hand at something else though like Shingeki no Kyojin or something that suits his horror fetishes.
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Jul 8, 2016 1:49 PM

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well if it results in a world where this:

becomes an actual thing it might be worth the influx of trash it will inevitably produce.
Jul 8, 2016 1:53 PM

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Unless it affects the industry negatively, I don't really give a shit.

Putting anime and cartoons as live action movies is dumb unless they heavily change it anyways.
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Jul 8, 2016 2:19 PM

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I think it would depend on the anime. Some of the more realistic anime's like "You're Lie in April", can be easily adapted. If done right, then it could be used for Oscar Bait.

The one thing to remember about the Super hero movies, is that the American audience is already familiar with the characters and their stories. Some of these characters have been around since the 30's and so everyone and their mother already knew who Batman and Superman were. People know what they are about and are more inclined to go see them.

The unfamiliarity is an extra obstacle that Hollywood would have to contend with when adapting anime.
Jul 8, 2016 2:23 PM
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Part of the reason I like anime is because it's animated

Then again, the chances of an anime from my favorites making it to being adapted by the west are slim to none so I dun even curr lolol

'Cept maybe SAO, but then again I wouldn't bet on it.

Then again, I look at the stuff from the Haganai live adaptation and I don't think anyone could do it in a way that isn't off-putting to me, regardless of where it's being adapted.

Jul 8, 2016 2:26 PM

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Time to ask the question 'Who can fuck up a Live Action adaptation the best? America or Japan?'







Jul 8, 2016 2:33 PM
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ClavisM said:
Time to ask the question 'Who can fuck up a Live Action adaptation the best? America or Japan?'

Well before I was inclined to believe USA is #1 (as it's to be expected) but after having seen Attack on Titan's live action, dunno man, they both make strong cases of epic fails.
Jul 8, 2016 2:37 PM

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Kouun said:
I feel like Netflix´s Death Note adaptation and Del Toro´s Monster will be pretty decisive as to whether anime adaptations can be succesful or not in the west, as both of them(specially Monster) are extreme opposites of what the average person thinks anime is. Also because i think Del Toro can actually make it good
Monster isn't going to happen anymore. And I haven't heard of anything about death note as far as actually going into production.

I think they're probably waiting on seeing how audiences respond to GiTS before they actually take that plunge and start investing money into it


Nah, Death Note is already in production.

http://screenrant.com/death-note-netflix-adam-wingard-filming/

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Jul 8, 2016 3:06 PM

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They can adept w/e they want as long as I get my drawn anime c:

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I have no idea why, but those drawn characters make me go emotional, while real human beings don't.
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ClavisM said:
Time to ask the question 'Who can fuck up a Live Action adaptation the best? America or Japan?'



I have to say....America. Especially after the crapfest that is Dragonball Sh*tvolution

Jul 8, 2016 3:11 PM

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I don't really care and doubt it will happen. Regardless, I know I won't be watching it. and why did you have to remind me of Dragonball. Now my head hurts
Jul 8, 2016 3:13 PM
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Like crap. As far as I am concerned Hollywood shouldn't attempt live adaptions but if they do they should just touch stuff like Your Lie In April or some other slice of life or school comedy or something like that

Jul 8, 2016 3:14 PM

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What makes anime good is the art style, and the fact that it belongs to a unique culture with its strange quirks, culture and morality that leads many anime to address issues that are taboo in the west. White washing it would be terrible.
Jul 8, 2016 3:58 PM

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It hasn't happened yet, but I firmly believe they can do it. A first step would be signing people onto the projects that actually know what they're doing and have a passion for the source material so we won't end up with another Dragonball or God forbid, Last Airbender.

I think in order to achieve a decent enough movie they should either keep everything the same, using the manga/light novel/anime as a damn bible and hiring asian actors for the characters or localizing it to take place in the west and make it a slightly more loose adaptation rather than a direct one (like they did with All You Need Is Kill when they made Edge of Tomorrow).

I mean hey, if Hollywood can make decent movies based on American and European comics, they should be able to make decent movies based on Japanese comics as well.
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I think it would depend on the anime. Some of the more realistic anime's like "You're Lie in April", can be easily adapted. If done right, then it could be used for Oscar Bait.

The one thing to remember about the Super hero movies, is that the American audience is already familiar with the characters and their stories. Some of these characters have been around since the 30's and so everyone and their mother already knew who Batman and Superman were. People know what they are about and are more inclined to go see them.

The unfamiliarity is an extra obstacle that Hollywood would have to contend with when adapting anime.


don't think thats true. for everyone Batman, X-men or Superman a character everyone knows, theres a Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-man, or Deadpool, characters no one knew before the movies came out.

ultimately, critical success at the box office comes down to marketing & word of mouth. if the trailer is in your face every time you turn on the tv and you like what you see from the trailer then the film will have an audience at opening weekend. from there, it needs legs, repeat viewers & new viewers who were convinced into seeing something they wouldn't of normally seen. that comes from word of mouth.

the only real obstacles would be finding a director suited for the material. finding a director with the desire to do what's never been done, making a good adaption of anime. that doesn't alienate both the original & the potential audience.
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Anime will look bad in live-action. These elaborate customs are hard to take seriously when they look real. Why can't they just let the movies play in theaters?
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Anime won't ever succeed in this regard.

Most of the live action ideas are anime that don't fit the bill for live action, the parameters are too unrealistic for the ones chosen. This is why people think they are bad.
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I don't know about Hollywood doing live-action versions of anime but Tarantino's animated backstory for O-Ren in Kill Bill was gorgeous (though grim).
    "...directed by Kazuto Nakazawa and produced by Production I.G, which had produced films including Ghost in the Shell and Blood: The Last Vampire." -- Kill Bill 1 (Wikipedia)
I'd love to see more of that: ie. Hollywood funded anime. Maybe if more Western viewers could see more adult anime like it rather than Simpsons/Family Guy/American Dad etc. it might become a thing.
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Jul 9, 2016 6:37 AM

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They probably going to port over the popz shows. I've watched quite a few of those. I'd say they would mostly port over those really popz shows with Western settings more targeted for Western audiences (of which I have barely barely watched any of).

Others that come to mind probably won't work. I'll probably just stick to anime
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Anime will look bad in live-action. These elaborate customs are hard to take seriously when they look real. Why can't they just let the movies play in theaters?


People said the samething about comic books. I mean most comic book movies do changes to have them adapt well into live action. Comic books and manga are pretty much the same thing if you ask me. I don't mind changes if they are done right.
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Yeah, I hope they don't make live-action movies. There's a reason that Ghost in the Shell was adapted into an anime, not live-action. The only series that I could possibly want a live-action version of is "Ghost in the Shell: SAC". I think that it had a naturalistic style which might've worked better if it were made into a high-quality live-action series. I was honestly bothered by how badly the characters fit with the backgrounds in SAC. However... I can't imagine SAC being a project that American companies would particularly like to spend money on... ._.
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I personally wouldn't want to see all my favorite anime and manga being adapted into shitty movies, with the best chance that they'll be "decent".

I really don't understand why they need to adapt it into a movie, isn't animation basically the same concept?

Jul 9, 2016 9:32 AM

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Well would be nice if Merica made live action movies instead of japan... so they don't suck ass
Jul 9, 2016 9:43 AM

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I wouldn't mind it all that much but I'd prefer anime being a japanese thing.
Jul 9, 2016 10:51 AM

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There are very few anime that can be adapted into a Western live-action movie, as vast majority of them would either involve a lot of obscure references alien to someone who never saw anime, or will look awkward when done by actual actors and somehow mandatory CGI.

Ghost in the Shell is possible as it can pass for an normal sci-fi and fact it was animated matters a very little, it doesn't rely on anything that would be incomprehensible for broad audiences.
Cowboy Bebop is doable, it's basically Firefly for anyone uninformed. Few others would work too.
Jul 9, 2016 11:09 AM
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I hate the idea. It'll probably turn out cringy.
Jul 9, 2016 11:45 AM

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As long as anime is watchable, I don't care about them being adaptated into live-action movies or used as reference for movies
Jul 9, 2016 11:49 AM

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I wouldn't mind but most adaptations I have seen are...dissapointing,to say in the least.But,well,not everything can be put on the same pedestal
Jul 9, 2016 1:19 PM

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Some anime and manga can work in Hollywood like Gunsmith Cats, Trigun and Mad Bull 34 since they are inspire by western themes.
Jul 9, 2016 2:36 PM

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I might be nice except for the fact that Hollywood would totally screw up the adaption and make a crappy movie anyway, look at what they did to Josie & The Pussycats, it was a fun to watch cartoon but the movie was terrible! Also, I've seen a Hollywood adaption of Dragonball which was basically terrible too. Some may argue that Speed Racer was a bad movie too. Maybe a TV series would be better if they producers understood the anime series well enough t adapt it.
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rather than thiking to make a live action from anime, why not thinking how to erased the illegal anime and manga streaming sites and find a easy way for western anime watcher to stream anime with a very considerable price. i didn't mean like "fuck those illegal site. they need to be erased from internet". i mean it in a good way. i mean many people watch anime for free and that cause a lot of trouble for anime industry.

i watch anime for free too or i mean illegaly, but sometimes i feel guilty doing it. they are making this hard animation without any sleep and i'm watching it for free. that seems kinda wrong in my view. but if i wanted yo watch anime but i need to pay first, and i don't have any money, what the heck should i do.........
that would come to conclusion that; only people who can pay, can watch anime.
Jul 9, 2016 2:59 PM

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Murica shouldn't touch Japan

Japan shouldn't touch Murica

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I personally wouldn't want to see all my favorite anime and manga being adapted into shitty movies, with the best chance that they'll be "decent".

I really don't understand why they need to adapt it into a movie, isn't animation basically the same concept?



At least it will look better than the CG adaptation
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In the end anime is nothing but a story in 2D form and therefore it should be possible to make real life movie adaptions, especially with a hollywood budget. Actually i think a well done adaption can be much better than the original. The problem isn't really that anime can't be reproduced as good movies, but that most directors just have no talent translating the unique atmosphere into a new medium nor understanding it in the first place. Same goes for video game movies.

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Anime will look bad in live-action. These elaborate customs are hard to take seriously when they look real. Why can't they just let the movies play in theaters?


People said the samething about comic books. I mean most comic book movies do changes to have them adapt well into live action. Comic books and manga are pretty much the same thing if you ask me. I don't mind changes if they are done right.


Western comics have a vastly different style than anime. It's more realistic. The bodies are often ideal, but you don't have crazy big eyes, cray hairstyles or such things. Often only the hero's customes are elaborate, not their whole appearance.
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