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Sep 29, 2015 4:00 AM
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So Overlord's sales, which started on 9/25 japan time zone, is now about 4.7k on BD+DVD. What do you guys think about the sales? What will be Overlord's first week sales?

PS. Monster musume sold 5.1k in the first week and Charlottes sold 7.4k so far from 9/23.

As of now Oct 6, Overlord has sold 10,335 BD+DVD, and keeps counting.
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Sep 29, 2015 5:32 AM
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Thanks for the information. So Overlord sales only started on 9/25 meaning that the sales figure we got for now is just 2 days sales figure and not one week.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1433354&show=0

Most likely sales will increase next week to 5k but hopefully it can reach 6k. The more the better of course.
ZapredonSep 29, 2015 5:48 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
Sep 29, 2015 6:43 AM
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Damn, well I hope it reaches Charlotte numbers at least. I want to hold out hope for S2 as I really liked the show.
Sep 29, 2015 7:54 AM
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It'll probably sell another 3 or 4k next week since it's only 2 days or so of sales.
Definitely a success.
Sep 29, 2015 7:56 AM
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And it is proven again: shows, which are assumed to be bad by the Western audience, are often a huge success in JP.
Sep 29, 2015 7:59 AM
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Oh forgot, looks like the amazon sales got f*cked up too.
So overlord actually sold more

XD XD XD XD XD
Sep 29, 2015 8:00 AM
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ichii_1 said:
Oh forgot, looks like the amazon sales got f*cked up too.
So overlord actually sold more

XD XD XD XD XD


Nice to hear that. So the sales is actually more? How much is it exactly?
ZapredonSep 29, 2015 8:05 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
Sep 29, 2015 8:44 AM
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ichii_1 said:
It'll probably sell another 3 or 4k next week since it's only 2 days or so of sales.
Definitely a success.


3 days. Usually sales are down by 80% in week 2. Maybe 1K for Overlord next week?

ichii_1 said:
Oh forgot, looks like the amazon sales got f*cked up too.
So overlord actually sold more

XD XD XD XD XD


Possible, sales for Im@s and Kuroko are really low compared to usual too.
Sep 29, 2015 9:10 AM
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There are many shows that were grossly overestimated this week. The estimates are almost spot on if you do not count the Amazon estimates. That might mean the Amazon sales haven't been reported for a number of shows. Oricon has messed up in the past, but this extent is pretty bad. We might get some better numbers when SoundScan post their sales' numbers.
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Helenus said:
And it is proven again: shows, which are assumed to be bad by the Western audience, are often a huge success in JP.

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Sep 29, 2015 12:34 PM

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Ninjasander said:
We might get some better numbers when SoundScan post their sales's numbers.
When do they often do that?
Sep 29, 2015 1:06 PM

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Agafin said:
Ninjasander said:
We might get some better numbers when SoundScan post their sales's numbers.
When do they often do that?


wednesday
Imagine a berserk anime by Yoshiaki kawajiri at Madhouse.

Now take a look at Berserk (2016).

YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO CRY.
Sep 29, 2015 1:13 PM

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terminador_2397 said:
Helenus said:
And it is proven again: shows, which are assumed to be bad by the Western audience, are often a huge success in JP.

I disagree. Charlotte sold well because Key has a large cult following and probably put more money into selling it being an anime original. So it was bound to sell well even though it was mediocre. As anime originals are much more dependent on sales, it also received a good chunk more of advertising. They need large BD/DVD sales to be profitable. Where as a show like Overlord actually was probably more successful.

LN sales for Overlord received a huge boost as well as selling a respectable amount despite a substantially smaller budget for advertising the BD/DVD (after all, the purpose was to drive LN sales). I would argue that based on the face that revenue - expenses = profit, Overlord was more successful than Charlotte.

*Of course, as we can't see how much each studio respectively put in to each show, we cannot know for sure.
Sep 29, 2015 3:58 PM

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eromangasensei said:
Agafin said:
When do they often do that?
wednesday
Oh thanks!
Sep 29, 2015 5:11 PM

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lmao how did charlotte top the sales
Sep 29, 2015 7:35 PM

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lmao how did charlotte top the sales
simple:
it's better

Sep 29, 2015 7:37 PM

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ExTamplier said:
sadpwner said:
lmao how did charlotte top the sales
simple:
it's better


Like hell it is
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Darklight0303 said:
ExTamplier said:
simple:
it's better
Like hell it is

IntroverTurtle said:
1,000 anime or I don't even acknowledge you exist.

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ExTamplier said:
Darklight0303 said:
Like hell it is

IntroverTurtle said:
1,000 anime or I don't even acknowledge you exist.


My, how conceited.


sadpwner said:
lmao how did charlotte top the sales


Simple, Anime original KEY work. Would've topped even if it was worse, not that it was bad.
Sep 29, 2015 7:56 PM

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AnimeEnTranced said:
ExTamplier said:

My, how conceited.

Can't waste my time arguing with a low class.

Sep 29, 2015 10:14 PM

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Overlord was the best selling series last week; total sales were at 8,427. Charlotte was knocked down to a third place after SoundScan's numbers were released.

You can find all the numbers here:
http://www.someanithing.com/3852
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It appear Overlord actual sale is around 8k.

Overlord v1 sells 4043/681, total 4,724 7368/1059, total 8,427. 52/63% 13/43% overestimated. [Per Soundscan – This brings it much more in line with the estimates. The BD in particular goes from “WTF??” to “yeah that’s close, we expected some overestimation’. Maybe this will still hold #2? Depends entirely on whether Oricon gets the act together for next week!]

http://www.someanithing.com/3852
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
Sep 30, 2015 2:15 AM
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Ninjasander said:
Overlord was the best selling series last week; total sales were at 8,427. Charlotte was knocked down to a third place after SoundScan's numbers were released.

You can find all the numbers here:
http://www.someanithing.com/3852


Yes but Soundscan is not really reliable compared to Oricon. We will have to wait for Volume 2 to know the real figure.
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Otabana said:
Ninjasander said:
Overlord was the best selling series last week; total sales were at 8,427. Charlotte was knocked down to a third place after SoundScan's numbers were released.

You can find all the numbers here:
http://www.someanithing.com/3852


Yes but Soundscan is not really reliable compared to Oricon. We will have to wait for Volume 2 to know the real figure.


There's not any major difference in their reliablity, but their accuracy may vary. You can use both to verify the other one. If there are major differences between the rankings you have to look at each individual product and see why it might be so. What happened this week was that Oricon did not report the sales from the Amazon editions that were released on the 25th. If you look at the estimates for these shows you can see that they were very accurate when compared with the sales reported on Oricon, but only when you removed the estimated sales for Amazon.

SoundScan has a higher treshold for sales which makes it harder to judge low selling anime. This makes it hard to use SS for the industry as a whole, as it would only be reliable for the best-selling shows over a longer period of time. SS is also less accurate when it comes to shows that have a stronger storefront. You can take a look at Charlotte's rankings on SS to see an example of this, as their storeront/Aniplex sales were not reported on. Like amazon sales weren't reported on Oricon.

SS' numbers tend to be about 10% higher (on average) compared to Oricon. However, they are just as reliable when you have both to compare each other.
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Aye, over 8K in 3 days XD

That means it's breaking 10K in 10 days easily XD

Hope these producers are not total losers, and can see a potential huge franchise when they see it.
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ichii_1 said:
Aye, over 8K in 3 days XD

That means it's breaking 10K in 10 days easily XD

Hope these producers are not total losers, and can see a potential huge franchise when they see it.


I wouldn't be that sure of it. 80-90% of anime sales the 1st week are usually the pre-orders, so it doesn't matter at which point in the week a volume is released. It's very, very rare for shows to have any noteable sales the 2nd week. However, since the finale aired this week, it might get a small boost in sales. Though, it won't surprise me if the sales pass 10k by October.
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I think currently total sales beating anything but Prison School.
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The opposite of what I was expecting.
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There's a translation here

http://captiongenerator.com/62114/OVERLORD-bluray-commercial-sub
Oct 1, 2015 4:19 AM
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It's rare for an anime to create a 5min PV to advertise BD/DVD. If this is successful we might get a 2nd season.
Oct 1, 2015 6:26 AM

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Blankbite said:
It's rare for an anime to create a 5min PV to advertise BD/DVD. If this is successful we might get a 2nd season.


Has Madhouse done this before for their previous anime?
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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Blankbite said:
It's rare for an anime to create a 5min PV to advertise BD/DVD. If this is successful we might get a 2nd season.

Smells like a big "fundraiser" to me. I hope it succeeds tho
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Sequel might be very likely. Just another piece of information, it is currently the number 1 best seller on amazon.co.jp. It sold well enough amazon has actually run out of stock which is generally quite rare for shows (personal knowledge as I often import new and old series). It is highly likely that it is exceeding all expectations which most likely means it has been both very profitable and far exceeded their targets. From this rationale, season 2 is probably very likely. The question is, does Madhouse have the time/ability to continue it. If not, probably what will happen is they will sell of the rights to a season 2 to some other studio. Anyways, lets wait and see (hopefully its Madhouse sequel in a year... though that's unlikely for Madhouse).
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Sequel might be very likely. Just another piece of information, it is currently the number 1 best seller on amazon.co.jp. It sold well enough amazon has actually run out of stock which is generally quite rare for shows (personal knowledge as I often import new and old series). It is highly likely that it is exceeding all expectations which most likely means it has been both very profitable and far exceeded their targets. From this rationale, season 2 is probably very likely. The question is, does Madhouse have the time/ability to continue it. If not, probably what will happen is they will sell of the rights to a season 2 to some other studio. Anyways, lets wait and see (hopefully its Madhouse sequel in a year... though that's unlikely for Madhouse).

REALLY? Wow that's excellent news!

Well at the earliest, we have to wait for one punch man to finish. Then maybe they can do a proper season 2. If they don't sell the rights.
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shawnofthedeadz said:
Sequel might be very likely. Just another piece of information, it is currently the number 1 best seller on amazon.co.jp. It sold well enough amazon has actually run out of stock which is generally quite rare for shows (personal knowledge as I often import new and old series). It is highly likely that it is exceeding all expectations which most likely means it has been both very profitable and far exceeded their targets. From this rationale, season 2 is probably very likely. The question is, does Madhouse have the time/ability to continue it. If not, probably what will happen is they will sell of the rights to a season 2 to some other studio. Anyways, lets wait and see (hopefully its Madhouse sequel in a year... though that's unlikely for Madhouse).



Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the LN publisher actually have final say as to what studio the adaptation goes to and how many seasons are made? Assuming this anime was successful on both fronts, sale increase for LN and good BluRay/DVD sales for Madhouse. If that is the case, the publisher would probably order another season from Madhouse.

Either way I'm glad to see it's selling so well. Currently reading the LN, it's very entertaining. Would very much like to see the rest of the volumes adapted.
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Fullmetal89 said:
Assuming this anime was successful on both fronts, sale increase for LN and good BluRay/DVD sales for Madhouse. If that is the case, the publisher would probably order another season from Madhouse.


Just want to point out one thing. Madhouse is not part of the production committee, they were just hired to do the animation. This means that they see none of the profit from the disc sales. Profits are shared among the committee member like Kadokawa's subsidiaries. It's entirely up to the publisher if this gets a season 2 or not.
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ExTamplier said:
sadpwner said:
lmao how did charlotte top the sales
simple:
it's better

+1
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Charlotte "it's better" Nice troll 7/10.
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Protaku94 said:
ExTamplier said:
simple:
it's better

+1


Delusions that you repeat over and over again won't become reality
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http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/dvd/562020/ref=zg_bs_nav_d_1_d

Overlord is #1 in Amazon Anime Bluray/DVD sales for 8hours now (as of posting this reply)
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Zapredon said:
Blankbite said:
It's rare for an anime to create a 5min PV to advertise BD/DVD. If this is successful we might get a 2nd season.


Has Madhouse done this before for their previous anime?

I'm not sure but I guess no.
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http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/dvd/562020/ref=zg_bs_nav_d_1_d

Overlord is #1 in Amazon Anime Bluray/DVD sales for 8hours now (as of posting this reply)


This pleases the Supreme Being yesss
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oricon just anounced total revenue ranking by series in September (dvd,bd,cd,manga,light novel combined )
overlord is 8th and only beaten by Prison school when it comes to this season anime

2 Tokyo ghoul
3 Kuroko no basuke
4 kingdom
5 Prison school
7 3gatsu no lion
8 overlord
9 shingeki no kyojin
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this is weekly ranking of last week

7 Prison school
8 Overlord
15 Charlotte
19 Gakkou Gurashi
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Overlord to the top of the season baby~
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Ninjasander said:
Fullmetal89 said:
Assuming this anime was successful on both fronts, sale increase for LN and good BluRay/DVD sales for Madhouse. If that is the case, the publisher would probably order another season from Madhouse.


Just want to point out one thing. Madhouse is not part of the production committee, they were just hired to do the animation. This means that they see none of the profit from the disc sales. Profits are shared among the committee member like Kadokawa's subsidiaries. It's entirely up to the publisher if this gets a season 2 or not.


Oh okay, thank you for clarifying that makes sense. Hopefully the publishers will see this as a success and want more.
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Ninjasander said:
Fullmetal89 said:
Assuming this anime was successful on both fronts, sale increase for LN and good BluRay/DVD sales for Madhouse. If that is the case, the publisher would probably order another season from Madhouse.


Just want to point out one thing. Madhouse is not part of the production committee, they were just hired to do the animation. This means that they see none of the profit from the disc sales. Profits are shared among the committee member like Kadokawa's subsidiaries. It's entirely up to the publisher if this gets a season 2 or not.



Actually Madhouse is part of the Production Committe for this one
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Ninjasander said:


Just want to point out one thing. Madhouse is not part of the production committee, they were just hired to do the animation. This means that they see none of the profit from the disc sales. Profits are shared among the committee member like Kadokawa's subsidiaries. It's entirely up to the publisher if this gets a season 2 or not.



Actually Madhouse is part of the Production Committe for this one


Really?

I can only find sources saying they're responsible for the Animation Production. Which is not the same as the commitee. Could I have your source?
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Ninjasander said:
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Actually Madhouse is part of the Production Committe for this one


Really?

I can only find sources saying they're responsible for the Animation Production. Which is not the same as the commitee. Could I have your source?


http://blog.livedoor.jp/anime_in/archives/36363671.html
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