The Flowers of Evil
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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Dat TV. Show is still moody, ugh and dark in animation. Too much walking again but hey the catch here is that the animation is soo dark. Creeeeeepy:  Well, music was nice though imo, that calm OST. |
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Stark700 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Dat TV. Show is still moody, ugh and dark in animation. Too much walking again but hey the catch here is that the animation is soo dark. Creeeeeepy: Well, music was nice though imo, that calm OST. they depicted that ^ very well from the manga. the OST is brilliant as always, the op was a bit comical considering the atmosphere of this series. kasuga looking up at saeki from the pool was hawt hot! this epi only covered 1 chapter. if the current pace continues without time skip, this might end around chap 20 or 21 both cliffhangers that youd want to read the next chapter. barring an orig anime end this might end without a real ending, which means the anime was literally made for people to get the manga |
| "....i am the villain in this story" |
ravagestorm said: I will be surprised if this anime will have enough profits to cover the production costs. Not that the production costs are anything extraordinary. This must be the cheapest thing I've seen in the last few years. |
| ARRRGGH! |
| While I also don't have much patience for long quiet walks or dragged out scenes in general I find it that in this anime they serve the purpose of setting up that atmosphere and emotion characteristic for this anime from the very beginning - passive with occasional bursts of drama. As for advancement of plot and character development, well.....I can't say much about that since I'm not following manga, but this anime still baffles me with every episode leaving me to wonder in what direction will story go.And since I don't have expectations of how will they end up I'm not too bothered by the fact that Kasuga is reaching new levels of pathetic every episode. This anime screams suppression to me of every kind. Especially emotional, and one of identity, which Kasuga seems to be looking for. He says there is no place for him in that city, but I don't think he knows who he is himself to even try to find his place. You can't find your place if you don't know in which direction you want to go. If you don't know where you belong. And he doesn't see himself and neither deviant nor normal righteous person at the moment. He's "empty" inside. I still haven't watched this episode with subs yet, but from the look of it he might make his first choice, but we still can't know anything. I think what set's apart this anime from others so far, besides animation, is the way of storytelling...It's not all just in scenario and concept, but in execution as well. If studio which is working on this really has that low budget then they are doing GREAT job with it, because if there's anything I noticed they really put effort into is scene composition and general camera work, which suits this shows need just well. |
Yuushin7Jun 16, 2013 8:03 AM
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| The big question is, how they will end up this show in two episodes. I don't believe in an original ending, but i can't really see an adequate ending point in the manga, that they could reach in the time they have left. I really like their slow pacing and their way of creating atmosphere(this episode was another great example. Great introvertive storytelling. And i especially like the walking sequences, all those mouth breathers seem to hate that much), but it comes with the prize of only telling a smaller part of the story. This show might get another season just becaus of the hateful backlash. There are other ways for anime to be profitable, than just DVD sales. This show was a great promotion for the manga because of all those graphic whores telling everyone as loud as they could to read the manga instead of watching this show. Future may tell. And by the way: All you hateful loonies hoping ZEXCS will go bankrupt over Aku no Hana, I have some bad news for you: They won't, as they most likely haven't put any money themselves into the production of this anime. I don't know the members of the Aku no Hana Committee, but i guess most money will come from Kodansha, the publisher of the manga(and the biggest japanese publisher overall) and King Records(the people responsable for almost every anime soundtrack ever). Those guys have enough money to stomach a smaller financial failure(IF AnH is a failure). ...Oh and LCSeixas said: Thanks for fucking with the fans and practically destroy any hopes for a second season, 'cuz no one wants to buy a DVD/Blu-Ray of "Walking no Hana". I pre-ordered every volume of this anime, something i almost never do. Yes, i am a minority, but to say no one wants to buy this is ridiculous |
| In 9/10 cases, the worst thing about an anime is its fandom. |
| This episode and this anime....it's just too deep for my feeble plebeian brain to comprehend. |
| Go ***k yourself. Polite as usual, lightXTC |
| Nakamura looked so vulnerable in Kasuga's dream. I enjoyed this episode but not as much as the few previously. I wonder how they are going to end this in 2 episodes. |
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| I wonder if the creators have a walking fetish. |
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| Kasuga's not so bad. I was saddened to see how things were going in this episode, but at least he figured it out at the very end. I love this anime, so I'm going to be sad when it's over. I might try reading the manga, but I don't think it will be quite the same. |
| Fucking walking again. Boring. But seriously though, are his parents deaf or something? How do they not hear him screaming in his room and throwing books all over the place? |
| Lmao that was some Leonardo DiCaprio "Inception" dream walking. Still good episode, we're entering that Nakamura route. |
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| Geez this anime is really... Strange. I just have hope for best ending for this... Yeah Kasuga, your life is boring XD |
MomooiroSep 11, 2014 2:00 PM
| Some impressive animation |
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| I liked this episode as well. The animation from the dream sequence was pretty good. As for the walking scene, try to have some empathy for the guy and then you will truly understand the power of that scene. It showed how depressed he was and how he was a the breaking point. It was really creepy and i enjoyed it. |
| I am very, very happy that I looked at the comments here before I watched the entire dubbed episode. So I had fair warning about that very long walking scene. As a result, I immediately recognized it when it started. So I skipped ahead, 30 seconds at a time, just to see how the scenes look. In that compressed way, I was able to enjoy it. Someday, when I have ten spare minutes, I'll certainly want to go back and watch that walking scene. But I will have to be in the right mood. Anyways, there is nothing wrong with going out for a long walk to reflect. Maybe in real like such a walk would be several hours long. But they compressed it into just 10 minutes. So I guess that it is plausible from a dramatic point of view. Some people have complained about the cheap animation. But I really like the fact that (I am just assuming) it is cheap. That means that it will be economical to produce a second season. In the beginning, there was a barrage of criticism about the rotoscoping and the character design. For me, those things are complete non-issues at this point. If they took the trouble to reduce some of the defects of the animation it would not improve the entertainment value of watching it. So just leave it a bit jerky with some blank faces here and there. |
| I really hope one of the characters drowns him or herself in a river next episode. But before that, I hope he or she takes 12 minutes walking to said river. Bashing aside, it was an alright episode. Did a good job at showing the distance between Kasuga and Nakamura/Saeki. I wonder what Kasuga is going to do about Nakamura at this point, seems he snapped (yet again). |
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| Can't wait for next episode. |
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| It's really a shame. There's so much more that happens in the manga after this part that could have been used but instead they have been filling episodes with... walking. I'm very, very curious as to how they are planning to end this. I really wish I could have seen the Regardless, even if the ending is lame, I still love the manga. |
| Almost no one's doing this anime any justice. It's either: "God, I hate how they wasted time on this.", or, "Blegh, this animation is disgusting.". Do you people really see anime in the shallow sense of: "Wow! Look at all these bright colors and cool animation!", or, "Wow! So much action and cool stuff took place in this episode; action should take up all of this anime's time!"? If all of you whiners are so loyal to your shounen anime and slice-of-life anime, then stay in that genre >-> We don't need you people joining the "1 as a rating" bandwagon because of the revolutionary animation/storytelling >-> |
TrustyFryingPanJun 16, 2013 7:38 PM
| It's sad that people are still complaining about the same things. It's like a broken record. Same for the people calling this "revolutionary" and the trolling. For the episode it did a good job showing how the incident affected everyone. I liked the dream sequence and the BGM fit the scene really well. With the pace this is going I'm really curious how it's gonna end and if it'll be an anime original ending or it will follow the manga without any closure. |
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| An episode full of emotion as expected for the antepenultimate, yes I really think it will not have a sequel, because isn't necessary. The soundtrack still pretty good though. |
TrustyFryingPan said: Almost no one's doing this anime any justice. It's either: "God, I hate how they wasted time on this.", or, "Blegh, this animation is disgusting.". Do you people really see anime in the shallow sense of: "Wow! Look at all these bright colors and cool animation!", or, "Wow! So much action and cool stuff took place in this episode; action should take up all of this anime's time!"? If all of you whiners are so loyal to your shounen anime and slice-of-life anime, then stay in that genre >-> We don't need you people joining the "1 as a rating" bandwagon because of the revolutionary animation/storytelling >-> No, I do not need fancy animation with a rainbow color palette to please me. I am quite fine with slow things to watch. People are allowed to be disappointed, news flash. Never have I stated that this anime is shit, because it's not. I'm just disappointed because there's so much more they could have added instead of filling halves of episodes with walking. No one said this anime needs more action, "cool stuff," or bright colors in animation. Don't get your panties in a twist. |
| Hell, this was so intense. I don't know you guys, but i LOVED the choice of that "Walking dream", the city becomes red, the flowers become evil, every aspect of every scene has so much meaning. DAT OST. Also, that atmosphere, just like Mushishi. |
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| Glad to see at least a few people still riding this show out to the end. I really don't understand how some of you aren't seeing any of the subtle beauty in the walking scenes. Besides the obvious fact that they're mostly using them to budget money in an already underproduced show, to me, they're a break from the emotionally exhausting scenes that we've seen in the last 4 episodes. It just gives you time to reflect on all that's happened beforehand. In this one, Kasuga has virtually nothing at this point; no friends, not a whole lot of support from his family, and the one person who really cared about him has essentially given up on him at this point. The backgrounds as he's walking through the city are completely desolate, very similar to Kasuga's current situation. I'm usually pretty cynical about this kinda shit where studios do this since 95% of the time solely to save money. No you don't have to read into it much, but at least I can sense some sort of effort to effectively be frugal and create a very emotional and meditative atmosphere. Nucksen said: This show might get another season just becaus of the hateful backlash. There are other ways for anime to be profitable, than just DVD sales. This show was a great promotion for the manga because of all those graphic whores telling everyone as loud as they could to read the manga instead of watching this show. Future may tell. As much as I hate to say it, there's almost zero chance of there being a second season. Even if this show has created a tremendous amount of controversy (in mostly a negative light unfortunately), DVD/BD sales ultimately determine whether or not a studio can appropriate the funds for a second season of anything, even if the studio is extremely driven to do so. Despite some of the praise it's received, this show has been an utter failure in terms of sale from the start and will undoubtedly do poorly once it's finished airing. |
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 Awesomeness |
| So he's fallen for Nakamura? Besides the walking with no dialogue part it was a decent episode. |
| New people, please don't put spoilers from the manga in the main text of your posts. Use the "spoiler" tags. |
DoctorDoom said: So he's fallen for Nakamura? Besides the walking with no dialogue part it was a decent episode. Yeah, it seems so. Everything he does he does for her. But I am disappointed of his "I'll be real deviant!" phrase in the next episode - he really doesn't know what he wants. I guess he will try to be persuade Nakamura that he is deviant after all (but he really isn't, he only wants to be one). Just for the sake of his love for her. |
| That walking scene. That was so deep. Wow. If it was a hole in the ground it would take you all the way to China. |
zehahahahahaJun 18, 2013 1:08 PM
| ARRRGGH! |
| Kasuga choose to love Nakamura lol |
edevcimot said: i also agree. i can understand why some people think it's deep and setting the mood, but eight minutes just walking? okay, i could deal with that, but there are a lot of other scenes that are just too long. like the one where kasuga wants to excuse himself because he isn't hungry and then we just keep staring at his parents for a whole minute and we can't even see their faces and they rarely move. sometimes there just too many scenes where nothing happens. and no, i don't need action 24/7, but staring at faceless people doing nothing bores me, yes.Suzie said: Oh hey, ANOTHER walking episode. It's gotten pretty funny how much "nothing" they can cram in every episode with barely any advancement to the plot. And of course, I mean that in the worst possible way. I agree. I mean I really like the show but so much walks, so much nothing. Sometimes it just gets too realistic. i was also annoyed by kasuga's mother. jfc, stop crying and yelling that you raised him wrong. how about talking to him? i still have no idea how this anime will end. i haven't read the manga, so i really don't know anything, but at the moment i can just imagine that they'll make it a dark bittersweet ending. that he will run away with nakamura maybe? not sure though. so i can't deny i'm excited to see where/how this will end. |
| I think the makers of this anime are very brave and daring with the animation style and and the artfully long walking scenes and I do respect them for this. I'm sure not everyone can appreciate it but my opinion is that it has worked well. You start to think what the character is thinking when you watch them walk for so long, you start to feel what they feel. It was also a really good set-up for the dream scene. You see Kasuga walking and you see that he was feeling alone and trapped. He felt like no one understood him. It brought his mind to Nakamura who was the only one that got close to understanding him, and he realised that he blew his chances with her, and he then realised why she was pissed off with him. It all linked in nicely. I really liked how the grass slowly, almost unnoticably, completely turned into flowers of evil as he walked. The music was also very nice and calming and built an amazing atmosphere. And am I the only one who thought the sky looked so beautiful as he walked? Edit: it seems I wasn't 0cean27 said: Awesomeness |
bakapuntJun 17, 2013 7:56 AM
Pigeonanon said: I get the feeling that a lot of the hate this series gets is from people who are only hearing it through tinny laptop speakers. Wear some nice headphones, and the atmosphere it creates is phenomenal. The pool scene, for instance, has this harsh whispering in the background that I thought was excellent. And the walking, just like before, wasn't a waste of time; the sounds created and atmosphere produced were chilling. Indeed, along with turning off all the lights in the room save the computer.That or hook your computer to your HDTV. Meanwhile, Nakamura is probably all like |
| ^ Thank you for using the "spoiler" tag. |
okanaganJun 17, 2013 1:19 PM
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