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Sep 18, 2011 6:39 PM
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Now, it happens every now and then in anime where a kid gets killed, let's say 14 or younger. We don't usually care as much when a random soldier or civilian gets killed, and when a named character gets killed, it's usually emotional or badass. But what happens when a random kid gets killed on screen? Or if a named character that's a kid gets killed? Does it affect how you continue watching the anime? Do you particularly care if it happens?

I don't usually mind since if it's for the sake of the plot, I'll bear it. Doesn't help the bad feeling I get though.
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Sep 18, 2011 6:44 PM
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I don't really care since I don't lose my grasp of reality and think an actual kid died. Same goes for any movie.
Sep 18, 2011 6:52 PM
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all those kids on naruto should die, that will hurt those narutards, then they will commit suicide.
Sep 18, 2011 6:56 PM
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Kazeshini said:
all those kids on naruto should die, that will hurt those narutards, then they will commit suicide.


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Sep 18, 2011 6:57 PM
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Not gonna lie, this made me laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1fsVx5ZFgM
Sep 18, 2011 6:59 PM
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Shocked said:
Now, it happens every now and then in anime where a kid gets killed, let's say 14 or younger. We don't usually care as much when a random soldier or civilian gets killed, and when a named character gets killed, it's usually emotional or badass. But what happens when a random kid gets killed on screen? Or if a named character that's a kid gets killed? Does it affect how you continue watching the anime? Do you particularly care if it happens?

I don't usually mind since if it's for the sake of the plot, I'll bear it. Doesn't help the bad feeling I get though.


I'm glad it gives you a bad feeling. That means you have not been completely desensitized by the random violence depicted in popular fiction be it anime, TV, movie, game, or written. Bless you. But the bit about not caring if a "random soldiers or civilians gets killed" bugs me. Soldiers, adults, and old people have families and dreams too. It is this sense of dehumanization that makes it easy to kill. Even when I am watching a space opera fire fight or mecha battle, I remind myself that those explosions are lives being lost and, if the story is good, keep watching. I'm not saying anyone needs to get all emotional, just remember, that's all.

Don't ask me why I'm still watching Blood-C because I really couldn't tell you at this point.
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Sep 18, 2011 6:59 PM
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oh god. i fucking cringed. nvm. i take my first comment back.
Sep 18, 2011 7:02 PM
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Kanzaki_H_Aria said:
oh god. i fucking cringed. nvm. i take my first comment back.

Good.
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Kazeshini said:
all those kids on naruto should die, that will hurt those narutards, then they will commit suicide.

Err...technically, didn't they all "grow up", therefore they're not kids anymore...

Anyways, I don't really care unless it's a very little kid (5-10 years old).


Yeah, like this....that's fucked up.
Sep 18, 2011 7:08 PM

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notsureifsrs said:
Not gonna lie, this made me laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1fsVx5ZFgM


Fuck! That freaked my bro out! T.T
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^LOL man....isn't that a Higurashi avatar.....shouldn't you be used to this type of stuff.

BTW, higurashi's Rika Knife scene......REALLY FUCKED UP...

Sep 18, 2011 7:19 PM

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Nah, not usually. If I'm going to care at all, then the writers are going to have to make me.
Either by writing interesting and well written characters that I end up actually caring about (not very often) or at least making them cool or potentially interesting enough that I'd like to have seen more of them.

After all, people die all the time, and when I won't cry for the thousands of people that die all the time to war, famine and what have you all over the world, then I sure as hell will hardly care for fictional characters dying, unless they fall into the categories above.

But killing kids do have a certain shock value at least. In general, even deaths of poorly written and uninteresting characters can be noteworthy if it's unexpected or shocking enough. Just...so long as it doesn't seem like a cheap ploy to get a that shock effect, like, say, Blood C.
Sep 18, 2011 7:20 PM

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Weird.....am I having Deja vu or was a thread like this made before? I even remember that video being posted.


alexcampos said:
^LOL man....isn't that a Higurashi avatar.....shouldn't you be used to this type of stuff.

BTW, higurashi's Rika Knife scene......REALLY FUCKED UP...



Yeah, but, considering later developments. That is like a display of ultimate badassery. I had no idea what the hell to think when I first saw this scene, though.
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^LOL man....isn't that a Higurashi avatar.....shouldn't you be used to this type of stuff.

BTW, higurashi's Rika Knife scene......REALLY FUCKED UP...



The scenes in Higurashi are really disturbing.


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Sep 18, 2011 7:36 PM

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The only limit I have is rape. Because my opinion is that rape is worse than death. I don't wanna watch rape if I can avoid it.

I haven't seen much kids dying randomly. Shows like Bokurano, well the the characters are part of the plot so I don't mind at all.

Can't feel anything bad if an anime doe the drama the way I don't like. Example, Ano Hana/Steins Gates. I actually laughed instead of feeling sad and such.
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taro_sado said:
The only limit I have is rape. Because my opinion is that rape is worse than death. I don't wanna watch rape if I can avoid it.

It's not rape if they enjoy it :D

Seriously though, that's VERY RARE, and most of the time it's something stupid...
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alexcampos said:
taro_sado said:
The only limit I have is rape. Because my opinion is that rape is worse than death. I don't wanna watch rape if I can avoid it.

It's not rape if they enjoy it :D

Seriously though, that's VERY RARE, and most of the time it's something stupid...


tentancle henta- COUGH COUGH COUGH
Sep 18, 2011 7:52 PM

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No. Killing adults is just as bad as killing kids, so I don't see why killing kids should be considered "worse".
Sep 18, 2011 7:55 PM

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Kanzaki_H_Aria said:
alexcampos said:
taro_sado said:
The only limit I have is rape. Because my opinion is that rape is worse than death. I don't wanna watch rape if I can avoid it.

It's not rape if they enjoy it :D

Seriously though, that's VERY RARE, and most of the time it's something stupid...


tentancle henta- COUGH COUGH COUGH
Trust me. It's always "consensual".
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notsureifsrs said:
Kanzaki_H_Aria said:
alexcampos said:
taro_sado said:
The only limit I have is rape. Because my opinion is that rape is worse than death. I don't wanna watch rape if I can avoid it.

It's not rape if they enjoy it :D

Seriously though, that's VERY RARE, and most of the time it's something stupid...


tentancle henta- COUGH COUGH COUGH
Trust me. It's always "consensual".


... I don't know what to believe since i don't watch it.

But I have to say happy tree friends (although it's more of a cartoon) is kind of gorey O_o
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taro_sado said:
The only limit I have is rape. Because my opinion is that rape is worse than death. I don't wanna watch rape if I can avoid it..

This... the only thing i can't stand in any sort of media. *coughfractalecough*
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alexcampos said:
Err...technically, didn't they all "grow up", therefore they're not kids anymore...


don't all characters age... I'm sure I was talking about "kids".
Sep 18, 2011 8:24 PM

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I hate to say it, however it is that old new stand by. "If it bleeds, it leads." Often times big stories lead with the death of a child, which teaches us that if a child dies it is more tragic then any other other person.

In anime, I hate for anyone to die. However, in action anime or horror anime practically relies on people to die to perpetuated the story. It is tragic and awful, however it is not real life.

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Sep 18, 2011 8:39 PM

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Kids aren't always entirely innocent.

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Don't care.
Sep 18, 2011 9:34 PM

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alexcampos said:
^LOL man....isn't that a Higurashi avatar.....shouldn't you be used to this type of stuff.

BTW, higurashi's Rika Knife scene......REALLY FUCKED UP...



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Kids aren't always entirely innocent.



well that was creepy and disturbing. that's something a child should never see. i think people who create/enjoys this kind of stuff have problems with their sanity and moral values. even if it's just a show there should be limitations.
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Even when I am watching a space opera fire fight or mecha battle, I remind myself that those explosions are lives being lost and, if the story is good, keep watching. I'm not saying anyone needs to get all emotional, just remember, that's all.


That's my biggest problem with the Transformers movies. Sure it looks cool as the robots fight on the highway, but literally hundreds of people are dying and the only person anyone seems to care about is Shia Leboeuf lol.

I don't think I've seen any kids die in an anime up to this point...might be wrong.
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notsureifsrs said:
Not gonna lie, this made me laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1fsVx5ZFgM

You have no SOUL! And neither do I! XD
But Elfen Lied had kids exploding! So I really don't get bothered by little one's destroying themselves or leading themselves to their own demise! LOLOLOLOLOL!
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alexcampos said:
^LOL man....isn't that a Higurashi avatar.....shouldn't you be used to this type of stuff.

BTW, higurashi's Rika Knife scene......REALLY FUCKED UP...



First thing that came to my head when I saw this years ago:

"Ah-- that's not how you get rid of a stiff neck!"
Sep 18, 2011 11:43 PM

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i was about to post that elfen lied video too, only real anime ive seen kids 'die', but they deserved it anyway.

@higurashi, thats just a messed up anime.
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Sep 18, 2011 11:58 PM

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even if it's just a show children might accidentally watch it and probably traumatize them. seriously, shows with such disturbing content may affect viewers. only mentally sick people can enjoy those kind of stuff.
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I prefer not to watch scenes with kids getting killed, whether it's in the anime, movie, or real life.
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even if it's just a show children might accidentally watch it and probably traumatize them. seriously, shows with such disturbing content may affect viewers. only mentally sick people can enjoy those kind of stuff.


most of these shows are pretty high on gore etc, usually rated 17+
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Denniz said:
even if it's just a show children might accidentally watch it and probably traumatize them. seriously, shows with such disturbing content may affect viewers. only mentally sick people can enjoy those kind of stuff.


most of these shows are pretty high on gore etc, usually rated 17+


yes but still, young viewers "might accidentally watch" it so i think gore stuffs shouldn't be that hard core. and this doesn't apply only to children, there are multiple cases of extreme behavior that involves teens as well. what a person see/hear/experience can affect their way of thinking and you can never tell what impact a show like that may cause to a viewer regardless of their age. no wonder violence is very common to see this days.
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if Grave of the fireflies was no minors the impact would not have been so big
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Kids aren't always entirely innocent.



this made me soooooo happy :D
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Sep 19, 2011 4:47 AM

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It doesn't matter to me unless the kid is a character I like or something.
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Not gonna lie, this made me laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1fsVx5ZFgM


lol, downloadan.

As for children getting killed, I can only remember a few cases but the worst one would have to be in Requiem For The Phantom
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Characters dying violent deaths in anime is pretty much always hillarious.
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Actually I care only when a character I like dies. I don't like children neighter in real life nor in fiction so it doesn't affect me at all. Sometimes I'm even relieved when a kid was particularly annoying. Go ahead, call me a monster. I've never particularly cared for people besides my family and close friends...
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notsureifsrs said:
Not gonna lie, this made me laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1fsVx5ZFgM


Didnt see that coming, however the top comment on the video made me lol.
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It definitely raises the tragedy level when children are killed, though depending on the show, writing and situation, it may be only a cheap plot device.

From my perspective, best show which had children dying was probably Bokurano.

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Don't really care if it's random or an annoying character. Beats rape anytime, plus no one pays attention to it unless it's a named character.


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One of the best moments in Baccano is when Ladd blows off Chezlaw's head. Granted, it doesn't stick...
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It's funny how most people freak out when they see a kid (named or random) die, but when they see a random person die they go all like "meh.."
I mean, what's the difference? Just like Baman said, old people have dreams too.
Besides, it's fiction. There's no reason to go crazy over a fictional character. Then why don't you cry over every kid that dies everyday?

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yes but still, young viewers "might accidentally watch" it so i think gore stuffs shouldn't be that hard core. and this doesn't apply only to children, there are multiple cases of extreme behavior that involves teens as well. what a person see/hear/experience can affect their way of thinking and you can never tell what impact a show like that may cause to a viewer regardless of their age. no wonder violence is
very common to see this days.


You're talking like every person that has seen these "disturbing things" have been traumatized. Most people aren't that weak-minded.
Like a 8-year old kid would go rent a movie or buy a game that 17+. It does happen, but that's because the parents doesn't care what their children see or hear.

Oh, and that's a stupid reason to blame on the violence these days. It's already been proven that video games, movies a TV can't affect so drastically.
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usually doesn't matter unless its something irl. =/

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Well, let's face it: we live in a world where things like that happen everyday so, why keep it away from fictional works? I don't see anything particularly wrong with it at all. It's shocking sometimes (I'll never forget when lucy, from elfen lied, killed kouta's little sister. It was gruesome, a little "overdone" maybe, but worst things happen with children everywhere). And, if someone feels offended by it, it's simple... just stop watching the thing.
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lol, downloadan.
I'm probably too late, but don't bother. The rest of the anime is disappointing.
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