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Apr 17, 2021 8:49 PM
#1
Armin was built and propped up to be this savior of the world and shit pre-time skip and throughout the whole post-timeskip. He got chosen over Erwin because over his "supposed" intelligence. What did all that amount to? Because I do not rememeber anything significant that he did that Erwin, Hange, or anyone of the veteran SC would not have done. So, what was his role in the grand scheme of things? Or did he just say a butch of nothings, do nothing the whole arc until Eren dies to the hands of Mikasa & Ymir, and say that he was the one who killed Eren? |
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Apr 17, 2021 8:56 PM
#2
But Armin can convince the rest of the world to not attack Paradis Island with his "Umi da!" speech. I don't see any other characters come close to his level of speech. |
Apr 17, 2021 9:07 PM
#3
His talk no jutsu is op as fuck, what do you mean by “do nothing”? He managed to iconized a leaf, a FUCKING leaf as plot device in just 7 pages. He then stopped Marleyans from shooting, which realistically they would have gunned them down on spot. He also posed an Avenger assemble before nuking Eren, partly contributed to Alliance foundation with zero foresight about what to do after stopping Eren but hey, everything worked out at the end so he did something, right? |
Apr 17, 2021 9:16 PM
#4
Honestly, why did Ymir (freckled one) helped Armin in chapter 137? From chapter 139, we can conclude that Historia is actually pro-rumbling. Shouldnt Ymir want what Historia wants? Plothole? |
Apr 17, 2021 9:41 PM
#5
I don't have a single reason to like that fuck, but that goes for most of the characters of this franchise so whatever. |
"Life is too bitter, so coffee, at least should be sweet..." - Hikigaya Hachiman (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatte Iru) |
Apr 17, 2021 11:07 PM
#7
Apr 17, 2021 11:08 PM
#8
Funseco said: Because power of friendship.Honestly, why did Ymir (freckled one) helped Armin in chapter 137? From chapter 139, we can conclude that Historia is actually pro-rumbling. Shouldnt Ymir want what Historia wants? Plothole? |
Apr 18, 2021 4:05 AM
#9
Apr 18, 2021 4:09 AM
#10
Armin is superior to Erwin because he's got talk no jutsu |
Apr 18, 2021 7:20 AM
#11
ManWild said: Floch was right all along. About everything. Subete.I wish erwin got saved instead |
Apr 18, 2021 7:25 AM
#12
Bayek said: ManWild said: Floch was right all along. About everything. Subete.I wish erwin got saved instead Floch, Erwin and Zeke (excluding chapter 137) were the best they deserved to be the main trio with sidekicks Yelena and Onyankopon |
Apr 18, 2021 7:30 AM
#13
I like Armin , I can't say anything about you or others |
Apr 18, 2021 7:41 AM
#14
Yes, you're the only one doesn't like Armin Everyone loves Armin, except you. No one cares about your opinion. So STFU. |
Apr 18, 2021 7:49 AM
#15
Griff-ith said: All the best characters were Chads that were chiseled to perfection like the statues of Greek Gods. The cringevengers were all lanky women and boney twinks.Bayek said: ManWild said: I wish erwin got saved instead Floch, Erwin and Zeke (excluding chapter 137) were the best they deserved to be the main trio with sidekicks Yelena and Onyankopon |
Apr 18, 2021 11:31 AM
#16
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CreatorsPet I hate him even more than Gabi. |
Apr 18, 2021 11:41 AM
#17
Levi made the choice between Armin vs Erwin. In the end the choice was more based off letting Erwin die instead of saving Armin which I personally liked. Before the last couple arcs he did have some moments against Reiner team but he just became the Naruto in the last arc. |
Apr 18, 2021 11:51 AM
#18
LustKamisama said: thank god Levi choose Armin and not erwinLevi made the choice between Armin vs Erwin. In the end the choice was more based off letting Erwin die instead of saving Armin which I personally liked. Before the last couple arcs he did have some moments against Reiner team but he just became the Naruto in the last arc. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Apr 19, 2021 3:06 AM
#19
did u realize how many ppl like naruto?? armin is literally naruto wannabe when eren is lelouch wannabe. |
May 10, 2021 7:17 AM
#20
Armins a tough case... tbh I actually think he was one of the best characters pre time skip and even in the Marley arc( dude was fire) , I've only read the manga but I liked his development role and portrayal. I didnt know it was possible to fuck armin up until yams fucked armin up I honestly think yams just wasted a lot of opportunities with him after the Marley arc to explore his relationship with and utilization of the CT, bertholdts memories or political aspects and giving him a more promenant role ...he just got dragged through the mud in terms of character writing... all his development erased, his personality gone, then just to get shoehorned in as a "savior" at the last moment--it was so stupid- like it also could've also been interesting too if he died in shiganshima to give EM some development but that wasnt done either? It boggles the mind when I try to think about what yams did with him tbh. Like was the whole purpose just to bait the fandom into these erwin vs armin debates?- I hate that! its so volatile. I dont really him in wfp and even more so in the final arc but I cant dislike him completely because I just think it was a case of a good character becoming a victim of poor writing and the author not knowing what he was doing. |
Love-catsMay 10, 2021 7:33 AM
May 10, 2021 8:43 AM
#21
Ew , Armong 🤢🤢🤢 Tbh i liked him in RTS Arc .smart ass Character but Yams butchered his Character after time-skip |
May 10, 2021 8:52 AM
#22
Armin's a pussy and should have been left 4 dead. Imagine actually thinking he's more valuable than Erwin like fuuuuuuuuuck. |
May 11, 2021 1:23 AM
#24
the writer in his story (before trash 139) intended for the three main character EMA to have their own critical flaws since on person is perfect, their flaws make the story atmosphere more realistic Eren is idealistic but lacks any real talents Mikasa is strong and powerful, but she's blindly obsessed with Eren Armin is smart and intelligent but at the same time he's weak and soft Armin was useful S1~S3 after the basement arc Armin and the rest of Eren's friends are completely incompetent, they have no clue to save Paradise unable to take any decisive action, all they want is talk no justu with the rest of the world through pure diplomacy that makes zero sense, Eren of course left their side in 123 after their plan failed, and in 112 he confronted Armin with his incompetence telling him he's useless really painful dark themes but they are great and dope and in 139 the writer decided to destroy the themes of his story and retcon the entire storyline throwing 50 great chapters in the trash, the story in the end lost its meaning and identity now. not gone lie to you in S4 I'm hating all of his Eren's friends I mean they were upset that Eren endangered them to retreive Zeke for Paradise's sake and future, that indicates how incompetent they are. |
May 11, 2021 1:36 AM
#25
I think like, he's ok? I don't really like him and also don't hate him, he's just neutral character for me but yeah, sometimes he's annoying af. But usually he's inert for me |
May 11, 2021 1:37 AM
#26
Bayek said: Subete ga F ni naru!ManWild said: Floch was right all along. About everything. Subete.I wish erwin got saved instead |
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May 11, 2021 3:46 AM
#27
I liked Armin and what he represented before the time-skip, but in the end he became one of the characters that broke the series. The world of AoT was bleak and cruel, but somewhat realistic (funnily enough). Every idealist that tried to fight against the nature of the world had their dreams crushed and/or had a brutal death. Every one aside from Armin, whose accomplishments in the end are completely unearned. "Those who can't sacrifice anything can't change anything" said Armin earlier in the series, only to change everything without any sacrifice of his own. |
majinaleMay 11, 2021 6:10 AM
May 11, 2021 3:47 AM
#28
Yeah. I agree that Armin isn't a good character. To be frank, none of the characters in aot are any good except for Erwin. |
Oct 16, 2021 4:32 PM
#29
I have plenty of reasons to dislike Armin. Throughout the timeskip all he did was relying on a pipe dream that the hatred between Eldians, Marleyans and the world can simply be solve through talking. Despite many indications proving otherwise. The fact that Marley turned Paradis into a Titan dumpster for over a century and used Warriors to invade the island not only to steal the founder, but also to acquire the islands' natural resources and fossil fuels to remain in power. When they went to Marley to investigate in Chapter 123 Armin's showed an expression that indicated his denial about the harsh reality they were about to face. The fact that the forum wanted the hatred toward Subject of Ymir redirected solely to Paradis caused Eren and many others to turn their backs on Hange ,Armin and everyone else in their circle.When the Rumbling was stopped Armin and his group had the nerve to return to Paradis as diplomats to facilitate peace talks.I wouldn't be surprised if Marley was using Armin and his friends as scapegoats. |
Oct 19, 2021 8:45 AM
#30
because hacksayama couldn't stop self-inserting |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Nov 3, 2021 9:24 PM
#31
Yes yes you are the only person |
Nov 5, 2021 10:41 PM
#32
i don't like him either his development was stupid and he himself is annoying and one dimensional ngl i dislike most of the characters in aot the only good ones were Reiner and eren (pre 139) |
Nov 5, 2021 10:42 PM
#33
Chota_Itachi said: aot fanboy alert lmao Yes yes you are the only person |
Nov 5, 2021 11:37 PM
#34
I don't hate him but don't like him either, I respect him only because he's the hero who saved Paradis and he's Eren's best friend. I disagree with lots of thing he did in final season but he was influenced by the traitor's titan, that's why he looked like he was in love with the blonde harlot and was sad when he killed those marleyan soldiers scum, a tough guy like Armin wouldn't waver, Armin died in s3p2 and was resurected to stop Eren, his personal existence is meaningless starting from episode59 onwards. |
Nov 6, 2021 12:34 AM
#35
Armin is a really good character, people know armin was still the mastermind strategist as proven in the marley arc. Just bc he is not that big of a genius who can solve a fking international matter which includes the survival of his own race does not mean he was nerfed or anything. All I see are yeagerists here who think Floch was spittin fax or some r*tardation like that. People forget that Zachary, Pyxis who helped Erwin to make coup successful also struggled to have a solution. Armin even considered the military rumbling plan. he wasn't just all about "Let's talk". Just bc Armin wasn't the Ah yeah let's genocide the whole world does not mean he wouldn't have agreed to rumble Military of the world. I feel like Armin's "Pacifism" has been oversized. He does not wait for the nations from outside to come to Eldia and he will start talking to them. Sure, he always tells his enemies to speak up, but he's also willing to fight. Look at the case of Bertholdt for example or when he fought against the titan cart (he did not mention the case of the port, because that is something that he himself considered as something wrong). And indeed, Armin expected Eren to wipe out the world's military forces. Sure, he initially wanted to just sit down and talk, but over time, the idea of the partial rumble became his main bet. At the end of chapter 123 he was waiting for Eren to destroy the world's armies that were stationed in Marley, and then sign a peace treaty. Now how useful would partial rumble be? Much, and that without a doubt, females seen that the wall titans have been able to destroy much of the world without being confronted, literally the only wall titans that died so far were killed by the alliance. Even if the wall titans had a problem, Eren can make these Hardened their necks. So yes, the international allied fleet could not defeat the wall titans even though they are now not such a scattered enemy. To this must be added the financial crisis that Yelena mentioned and that the nations, seeing the power of the founding titan, will seriously prefer to prepare to fight against this threat. And now if there's something like the other characters (titan shifters)protects the civilians of the outer world from any damage from the rumbling and ultimately erasing the titan curse then Boom here you have a plan where Paradis and the outer world now have the time to have mutual understanding and they even saw the Devils of Paradis protecting them. if people Magath can understand the Paradisians then can anyone from the outer world. How about I will call you AoT hater?? |
MorphemeNov 6, 2021 12:46 AM
Nov 6, 2021 3:52 AM
#36
No.I also don't like him cause after the time skip that little shit just show his yellow colors.Manipulative and completely useless not gonna mention how "good friend" he is preferring to fight for some enemy blonde pussy and betraying his own home and best friend instead of being actually useful.Useless and annoying character |
Nov 6, 2021 11:14 AM
#37
-X3RX3S- said: i dont hate aot tho Armin is a really good character, people know armin was still the mastermind strategist as proven in the marley arc. Just bc he is not that big of a genius who can solve a fking international matter which includes the survival of his own race does not mean he was nerfed or anything. All I see are yeagerists here who think Floch was spittin fax or some r*tardation like that. People forget that Zachary, Pyxis who helped Erwin to make coup successful also struggled to have a solution. Armin even considered the military rumbling plan. he wasn't just all about "Let's talk". Just bc Armin wasn't the Ah yeah let's genocide the whole world does not mean he wouldn't have agreed to rumble Military of the world. I feel like Armin's "Pacifism" has been oversized. He does not wait for the nations from outside to come to Eldia and he will start talking to them. Sure, he always tells his enemies to speak up, but he's also willing to fight. Look at the case of Bertholdt for example or when he fought against the titan cart (he did not mention the case of the port, because that is something that he himself considered as something wrong). And indeed, Armin expected Eren to wipe out the world's military forces. Sure, he initially wanted to just sit down and talk, but over time, the idea of the partial rumble became his main bet. At the end of chapter 123 he was waiting for Eren to destroy the world's armies that were stationed in Marley, and then sign a peace treaty. Now how useful would partial rumble be? Much, and that without a doubt, females seen that the wall titans have been able to destroy much of the world without being confronted, literally the only wall titans that died so far were killed by the alliance. Even if the wall titans had a problem, Eren can make these Hardened their necks. So yes, the international allied fleet could not defeat the wall titans even though they are now not such a scattered enemy. To this must be added the financial crisis that Yelena mentioned and that the nations, seeing the power of the founding titan, will seriously prefer to prepare to fight against this threat. And now if there's something like the other characters (titan shifters)protects the civilians of the outer world from any damage from the rumbling and ultimately erasing the titan curse then Boom here you have a plan where Paradis and the outer world now have the time to have mutual understanding and they even saw the Devils of Paradis protecting them. if people Magath can understand the Paradisians then can anyone from the outer world. How about I will call you AoT hater?? |
Nov 6, 2021 1:33 PM
#38
angelon_official said: He literally fought against Eren for his beliefs , how is he uselessNo.I also don't like him cause after the time skip that little shit just show his yellow colors.Manipulative and completely useless not gonna mention how "good friend" he is preferring to fight for some enemy blonde pussy and betraying his own home and best friend instead of being actually useful.Useless and annoying character |
Nov 7, 2021 2:43 AM
#39
Guts_Yeager said: angelon_official said: He literally fought against Eren for his beliefs , how is he uselessNo.I also don't like him cause after the time skip that little shit just show his yellow colors.Manipulative and completely useless not gonna mention how "good friend" he is preferring to fight for some enemy blonde pussy and betraying his own home and best friend instead of being actually useful.Useless and annoying character I didn't see him fighting.Eren was holding back more than 80% of the founding titan+ armin was literally useless In the battlefield he can only use his collosal titan explosion only once and that's it.This whole thing wasn't a fight it was plot armored circus with talk no jutsu |
Nov 7, 2021 2:53 AM
#40
I used to like him, even though his Colossal Titan form is not as cool as Bertholdt's one. But in the final chapter, I lose respect for both him and Eren. They were discussing about Mikasa instead of the innocent people of the 80% population who don't know the shit about Marley and Paradis but still have to die. |
Nov 7, 2021 3:32 AM
#41
Yes I agree that Armin is not a good character. Actually, there are no good characters in AOT except Erwin Smith. |
Nov 7, 2021 5:14 AM
#42
angelon_official said: Guts_Yeager said: angelon_official said: No.I also don't like him cause after the time skip that little shit just show his yellow colors.Manipulative and completely useless not gonna mention how "good friend" he is preferring to fight for some enemy blonde pussy and betraying his own home and best friend instead of being actually useful.Useless and annoying character I didn't see him fighting.Eren was holding back more than 80% of the founding titan+ armin was literally useless In the battlefield he can only use his collosal titan explosion only once and that's it.This whole thing wasn't a fight it was plot armored circus with talk no jutsu So you consider Two people talking to be talk no jutsu lol go and read this thread about Armin and Zeke conversation Go and read this thread about their conversation https://twitter.com/ShatteredXLV/status/1438563277567561736?t=ZxWYfAaFdtvjMlnvfiTzZA&s=19 |
Nov 7, 2021 11:22 AM
#43
yaegerist-15 said: LustKamisama said: thank god Levi choose Armin and not erwinLevi made the choice between Armin vs Erwin. In the end the choice was more based off letting Erwin die instead of saving Armin which I personally liked. Before the last couple arcs he did have some moments against Reiner team but he just became the Naruto in the last arc. Yeah many based Erwin enjoyers don't understand that Erwin's character would've been destroyed as well if he was saved. |
Nov 7, 2021 11:29 AM
#44
He was a fine character before final season because he actually came up with plans and stuff. Like in Trost arc and RtS. But there was nothing that he did in the final season that Erwin couldn't. So I started disliking him from finao season onwards. |
Nov 7, 2021 12:09 PM
#45
I don't really like Armin either. He's okay. But he's kind of the standard kid-who-lacks-confidence-but-has-potential type of character. Not much really stands out to me about him in personality or character development. |
Nov 17, 2021 7:47 PM
#47
I don't like armin but he's my cute lil baby if you know what i mean |
Nov 18, 2021 2:15 AM
#48
-X3RX3S- said: Armin is a really good character, people know armin was still the mastermind strategist as proven in the marley arc. Just bc he is not that big of a genius who can solve a fking international matter which includes the survival of his own race does not mean he was nerfed or anything. All I see are yeagerists here who think Floch was spittin fax or some r*tardation like that. People forget that Zachary, Pyxis who helped Erwin to make coup successful also struggled to have a solution. Armin even considered the military rumbling plan. he wasn't just all about "Let's talk". Just bc Armin wasn't the Ah yeah let's genocide the whole world does not mean he wouldn't have agreed to rumble Military of the world. I feel like Armin's "Pacifism" has been oversized. He does not wait for the nations from outside to come to Eldia and he will start talking to them. Sure, he always tells his enemies to speak up, but he's also willing to fight. Look at the case of Bertholdt for example or when he fought against the titan cart (he did not mention the case of the port, because that is something that he himself considered as something wrong). And indeed, Armin expected Eren to wipe out the world's military forces. Sure, he initially wanted to just sit down and talk, but over time, the idea of the partial rumble became his main bet. At the end of chapter 123 he was waiting for Eren to destroy the world's armies that were stationed in Marley, and then sign a peace treaty. Now how useful would partial rumble be? Much, and that without a doubt, females seen that the wall titans have been able to destroy much of the world without being confronted, literally the only wall titans that died so far were killed by the alliance. Even if the wall titans had a problem, Eren can make these Hardened their necks. So yes, the international allied fleet could not defeat the wall titans even though they are now not such a scattered enemy. To this must be added the financial crisis that Yelena mentioned and that the nations, seeing the power of the founding titan, will seriously prefer to prepare to fight against this threat. And now if there's something like the other characters (titan shifters)protects the civilians of the outer world from any damage from the rumbling and ultimately erasing the titan curse then Boom here you have a plan where Paradis and the outer world now have the time to have mutual understanding and they even saw the Devils of Paradis protecting them. if people Magath can understand the Paradisians then can anyone from the outer world. How about I will call you AoT hater?? Why it is that everytime you gotta say something, you always have to type in paragraphs ? Also ,"How about I will call you AoT hater??" is sounding kinda gramatically weird and wrong I guess it should be, "How about me calling you an AoT hater??" |
Nov 18, 2021 3:05 AM
#49
I dislike him a lot |
Nov 18, 2021 8:26 AM
#50
aka_panda said: Why can't I say something? Isn't this the purpose of forums? Are you annoyed bc I am arguing against most of the replies here? There's plenty of other users who comment on every other forum about AoT and many of them are haters/dislikers. I atleast enjoy this series so I comment.Why it is that everytime you gotta say something, you always have to type in paragraphs ? Also ,"How about I will call you AoT hater??" is sounding kinda gramatically weird and wrong I guess it should be, "How about me calling you an AoT hater??" I type in paragraphs bc I like to express myself clearly instead of X character bad bad and Y character good good And yeah I wrote that reply in a hurry so I didn't bothered with proper grammar. |
MorphemeNov 18, 2021 8:33 AM
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