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Jul 8, 2014 2:22 AM
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Really 8.84 for this? This here is the reason why ratings on this website cannot be trusted.
We should make it like only a small group of people can give ratings so we can really know what is good and what is less.
Really I have lost faith in MAL right now..
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it's the community's will

Guts, known as the Black Swordsman, seeks sanctuary from the demonic forces attracted to him and his woman because of a demonic mark on their necks, and also vengeance against the man who branded him as an unholy sacrifice. Aided only by his titanic strength gained from a harsh childhood lived with mercenaries, a gigantic sword, and an iron prosthetic left hand, Guts must struggle against his bleak destiny, all the while fighting with a rage that might strip him of his humanity.
Jul 8, 2014 2:45 AM
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Really 8.84 for this? This here is the reason why ratings on this website cannot be trusted.
We should make it like only a small group of people can give ratings so we can really know what is good and what is less.
Really I have lost faith in MAL right now..


Good thread.
Jul 8, 2014 2:46 AM
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You must be god

OT: It's a 1-cour non-sequel; it's essentially impossible for it to be overrated, hell it's probably the least overrated show on the entire top 30 page except for the single movies and shit (I.E. Spirited Away, Wolf Children, Rurouni Kenshin and Princess Mononoke)

consider that for a second
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We better all rate it 1 to balance it out.
Jul 8, 2014 5:17 AM
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I would have to agree.

This anime promised/threw NEETS/Hikikomori's, logic, and a games at us, and all I see is one pile of Brazilian jejeje logic and trash script.

I enjoyed the anime 7/10 because of Jibril (and her VA)l and Steph.

However, quality/story wise? This was fking terrible and it was actually so bad I didn't even care too much about the series and I don't wish for a second season of the same crap. 4/10 for trying (the art SOMEWHAT bumped it up).

The 1st chess game was just cringeworthy.
The 2nd chess game I was actually okay with until the MC started to point out terrible logic and he won simply because of... "HURR DURR KINGS GET ASSASSINATED WHEN THEY LOSE THEIR COOL AND BECOME A TYRANT".

Seriously? Since when do tyrants get assassinated by their own kind DURING a battle? I would expect that to happen if they were playing Civilization type game where they had to plan diplomacy and long term effects. However, chess is about winning the battle, not the war. They could have just left it at soldiers being infatuated by a loli and turned against the enemy king or anything of that sort, but OFC, he had to use completely stupid logic to why he won. Why? Because it's a logic show that shows how intelligence can overcome anything... too bad this show is quite the contradiction. Btw this was barely even into the anime and it has that many problems.

[SPOILERS]




Second instance that I remember is the Werebeasts losing because somehow, 'Blank' knew how a heart gun worked (I don't even brazilian logic) and he therefore knew how to correctly grip an unknown gun (remember he's a NEET/hikikomori which the author clearly disregarded and only reminds you when it's most convenient for a cheap laugh jejeje). He also knew the entirety of ammo it fired (how big, what material), how fast it traveled, the gravity in the game they were in, etc. Without this knowledge, no one should be able to come up with angles and formulas to accommodate for unknown x,y,z variables. But somehow, the MC's did and they tried to explain it, which was even more cringeworthy. As if a NEET can aim an unorthodox unknown weapon to fire at precise angles.

Also, they claim to use/have almost no luck, 100% skill and that they won from the beginning. The show was fking terrible, rushed, cheap jokes, and only Jibril, Steph, and the loli whenever she didn't use logic saved it.

Honestly, I knew from the beginning this was a show I shouldn't expect perfection, but don't tell me a logic game driven anime shouldn't be criticized for it's main intent/purpose.

Again, I can argue Black Bullet is also pretty bad story wise, it was rushed, and almost 0 action filled with some cheap generic ecchi scenes to cover up the fillers. But I loved it with no complaints. Why? Because it threw loli's at me and a story that makes sense (just poorly executed in terms of pacing) and therefore I think Black bullet deserves a higher rating. Probably BB would be a 6.5/10 while NGNL would be a 4/10 or 4.5/10 depending on how much you liked the music, art, and 'extras'.

As a person that hasn't even finished my education yet and I guess what you would consider a true NEET, I felt like I lost brain cells while watching NGNL and I feel insulted. I also used to be a hikikomori which why I'm in this terrible position for the past 2-3 years and next few months, so watching this MC and seeing him being able to talk confidently to different people and being eager to meet new people is just stupid and shows a lack of focus by the author if this is how it was truly written.

tl;dr no game no life is shit

inb4 you're a neet so your opinions don't matter.

Too bad I don't believe that this anime was poorly scripted is an opinion. I know it is poorly written. However, I do enjoy most poor quality anime such as SAO, BB, NGNL, etc.
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Jul 8, 2014 5:28 AM
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HaXXspetten said:

OT: It's a 1-cour non-sequel; it's essentially impossible for it to be overrated

What kind of sense does that make?
Jul 8, 2014 5:30 AM
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I'd imagine a good reason why it's so high is because people complain, so then people just give it a 10 to make those people mad. I'd do the same.
an egomaniac and a fool

Jul 8, 2014 5:42 AM
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This threads are daily aren't they?
Jul 8, 2014 5:50 AM
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grandy_UiD said:
HaXXspetten said:

OT: It's a 1-cour non-sequel; it's essentially impossible for it to be overrated

What kind of sense does that make?
It makes all the sense in the world, and do I really have to go through all this again? *sigh*..
Jul 8, 2014 7:05 AM

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People are over rating NGNL on purpose because of these stupid threads.
Jul 8, 2014 7:07 AM
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with that logic literally every anime.. no every piece of media ever made in human history is overrated since obviously there doesn't exist such a thing which literally everyone likes
Jul 8, 2014 7:07 AM

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Please learn that ratings are nothing but subjective numbers and get over it. We have way too many of these "Boo Hoo X anime's rating insults me" threads.
Jul 8, 2014 7:08 AM

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There are large amounts of proof in certain places that people are going so far as to make fake profiles in large quantities to force NGNL into the top 10.

The rating isnt real anymore.
Jul 8, 2014 7:09 AM
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SolviteSekai said:
There are large amounts of proof in certain places that people are going so far as to make fake profiles in large quantities to force NGNL into the top 10.

The rating isnt real anymore.
ya this too though, basically every high rated anime on the site has illegit accounts both for upvoting and downvoting (some more than others, look at LotGH's 1/10s for example) so it should all be taken with a grain of salt
Jul 8, 2014 7:12 AM

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OP, if you're looking for "objective ratings" go here http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=2913
Jul 8, 2014 7:12 AM

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There are large amounts of proof in certain places that people are going so far as to make fake profiles in large quantities to force NGNL into the top 10.

The rating isnt real anymore.

I pity those poor souls.
Jul 8, 2014 7:13 AM

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Hisio said:
We should make it like only a small group of people can give ratings so we can really know what is good and what is less.
No thank you I have my own opinions which probably won't match theirs, a top list based on the opinions of a select group means nothing.
Jul 8, 2014 7:17 AM
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I think the real question is why the hell people care in the first place? I don't think there are very many people on here that's gonna like literally EVERY top rated anime, is that so strange? >.>

Just get over it
Jul 8, 2014 7:20 AM

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I think the real question is why the hell people care in the first place?


They care because they think they're special if they don't like popular anime. OP still rated it a 8 so he's just being a dick.
Jul 8, 2014 7:20 AM

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Some people thinks NGNL is a masterpiece and some people thinks [insert random anime] is just a load of bs. Deal with it.
Jul 8, 2014 7:23 AM

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wzrd said:
HaXXspetten said:
I think the real question is why the hell people care in the first place?


They care because they think they're special if they don't like popular anime. OP still rated it a 8 so he's just being a dick.


Newer MAL users tend to think ratings give a good indication of if a series will get a sequel.

I know I did back in the day.

Its actually backwards. If a show has a good rating on mal, chances are japanese people didnt buy it.

Their taste is abysmal.
Jul 8, 2014 8:18 AM
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In time, NGNL's score will sink like a rock, or I'm moving to Canada.
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In time, NGNL's score will sink like a rock, or I'm moving to Canada.

with time, the rating will probably drop, but not by much.
have fun in Canada ^^
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Jul 8, 2014 9:36 AM

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In time, NGNL's score will sink like a rock, or I'm moving to Canada.


Something wrong with Canada, Eh?
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ovoon7 said:
In time, NGNL's score will sink like a rock, or I'm moving to Canada.


Something wrong with Canada, Eh?

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Jul 8, 2014 9:43 AM
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DawnJ said:
-LEWD- said:


Something wrong with Canada, Eh?

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Jul 8, 2014 10:21 AM
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It wasn't even that good man.
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So I was playing super smash bros melee at a event and this awkward looking guy walks up to me sits down like he is ready to play and I say "Hey how's it going? whats your name?" He mumbles "blank" Then he mumbles a few seconds later "blank never loses" So I reply "oh so your pretty good at this game?" he mumbles back "blank has never played it before" So then this young girl sits down and I ask "hey you want to play with us too? whats your name?" She replies with a timid voice "blank" so I reply back "oh so you know this guy? is that your team name?" The guy replies "no blank is one" So I am thinking to myself, "okay stop talking to this guy he is very odd" So the two of them are on a team against me, he said "blank" has never played the game before so no big deal I can probably beat them both but honestly I feel sort of sorry for them, so I'll probably go easy on them, I don't even pick my best character.

Then when we start the two of them start doing advance tactics like wavedashing ect, and I asked them, "oh I thought you said this was your first time playing?" He mumbles "It is." So, I ask him, "How do you know how to wave dash and L cancel and stuff then? did you play project M?" He replies, "no I just figured it all out just now" At that point I know this guy is either just a major no lifer or he is just trolling me. Then since it was 1 v 2 I lose and the guy says "see blank never loses" and I reply, "yeah your pretty good want to play me 1 v 1?" He replies, "I just beat you 1 v 1" then proceed to argue what is 1 v 1, but I give up quick though cause I think the guy has some mental problems or something.

Then when he was about to leave he explains how smart he was, that the whole thing was just a setup to beat me. He explains how the game had already started before it started. I am very confused at this point, I figure this guy has never left his house before, and has no friends. His concept of winning was so skewed you could hardly call that a win. But whatever the guy obviously doesn't have any friends besides his sister or whoever that was. I obviously didn't care, felt very sorry for the two though.




On topic: yeah super overrated the over the topness just made it feel faker than fake, hallow and shallow. It was funny and cute at times but other than that it didn't appeal to me at all.
Jul 8, 2014 12:24 PM

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"I don't like this show as much as the rating suggests! It's overrated!"

Get over yourself.

MAL ratings have always been and still are useful for exactly what they are meant to be useful for: determining how much a series is liked by the MAL user base. If you want to examine objective qualifications, you shouldn't be looking at subjective numbers.

We should make it like only a small group of people can give ratings so we can really know what is good and what is less.

What the fuck do you think this is, the Oscars? Read a review to get a better idea of whether or not you'd like a series and let the people like what they like.
Jul 8, 2014 12:33 PM

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Read a review to get a better idea of whether or not you'd like a series and let the people like what they like.
> Implying MAL reviews are worth shit
> mfw
Jul 8, 2014 12:35 PM

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Redfoxoffire said:
Read a review to get a better idea of whether or not you'd like a series and let the people like what they like.
> Implying MAL reviews are worth shit
>mfw


i'd say reviews with the lowest scores tend to provide a decent criticism to the series
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Jul 8, 2014 12:37 PM
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T3hSource said:
> Implying MAL reviews are worth shit
>mfw


i'd say reviews with the lowest scores tend to provide a decent criticism to the series
as long as they stay within actual criticism and not blatant hating that is
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@DreamingBeats

Doesn't make it any less of a hassle to sort them out of the hype recommendations!
Jul 8, 2014 12:40 PM

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NGNL is overrated, because there's no explainable reason that a mere ecchi comedy could possibly be as much, or more entertaining than my favorite animus.
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as long as they stay within actual criticism and not blatant hating that is

true, some reviews only have blatant hate w/o providing any (if at all) justification as to why the series deserves a low rating. you kinda have to sort through and find a decent review to the series, which isn't much of a hassle imo
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T3hSource said:
Redfoxoffire said:
Read a review to get a better idea of whether or not you'd like a series and let the people like what they like.
> Implying MAL reviews are worth shit
> mfw

Not that I believe all MAL reviews are terrible, but it doesn't have to be a MAL review.
Jul 8, 2014 1:31 PM

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I would have to agree.

This anime promised/threw NEETS/Hikikomori's, logic, and a games at us, and all I see is one pile of Brazilian jejeje logic and trash script.

I enjoyed the anime 7/10 because of Jibril (and her VA)l and Steph.

However, quality/story wise? This was fking terrible and it was actually so bad I didn't even care too much about the series and I don't wish for a second season of the same crap. 4/10 for trying (the art SOMEWHAT bumped it up).

The 1st chess game was just cringeworthy.
The 2nd chess game I was actually okay with until the MC started to point out terrible logic and he won simply because of... "HURR DURR KINGS GET ASSASSINATED WHEN THEY LOSE THEIR COOL AND BECOME A TYRANT".

Seriously? Since when do tyrants get assassinated by their own kind DURING a battle? I would expect that to happen if they were playing Civilization type game where they had to plan diplomacy and long term effects. However, chess is about winning the battle, not the war. They could have just left it at soldiers being infatuated by a loli and turned against the enemy king or anything of that sort, but OFC, he had to use completely stupid logic to why he won. Why? Because it's a logic show that shows how intelligence can overcome anything... too bad this show is quite the contradiction. Btw this was barely even into the anime and it has that many problems.

[SPOILERS]




Second instance that I remember is the Werebeasts losing because somehow, 'Blank' knew how a heart gun worked (I don't even brazilian logic) and he therefore knew how to correctly grip an unknown gun (remember he's a NEET/hikikomori which the author clearly disregarded and only reminds you when it's most convenient for a cheap laugh jejeje). He also knew the entirety of ammo it fired (how big, what material), how fast it traveled, the gravity in the game they were in, etc. Without this knowledge, no one should be able to come up with angles and formulas to accommodate for unknown x,y,z variables. But somehow, the MC's did and they tried to explain it, which was even more cringeworthy. As if a NEET can aim an unorthodox unknown weapon to fire at precise angles.

Also, they claim to use/have almost no luck, 100% skill and that they won from the beginning. The show was fking terrible, rushed, cheap jokes, and only Jibril, Steph, and the loli whenever she didn't use logic saved it.

Honestly, I knew from the beginning this was a show I shouldn't expect perfection, but don't tell me a logic game driven anime shouldn't be criticized for it's main intent/purpose.

Again, I can argue Black Bullet is also pretty bad story wise, it was rushed, and almost 0 action filled with some cheap generic ecchi scenes to cover up the fillers. But I loved it with no complaints. Why? Because it threw loli's at me and a story that makes sense (just poorly executed in terms of pacing) and therefore I think Black bullet deserves a higher rating. Probably BB would be a 6.5/10 while NGNL would be a 4/10 or 4.5/10 depending on how much you liked the music, art, and 'extras'.

As a person that hasn't even finished my education yet and I guess what you would consider a true NEET, I felt like I lost brain cells while watching NGNL and I feel insulted. I also used to be a hikikomori which why I'm in this terrible position for the past 2-3 years and next few months, so watching this MC and seeing him being able to talk confidently to different people and being eager to meet new people is just stupid and shows a lack of focus by the author if this is how it was truly written.

tl;dr no game no life is shit

inb4 you're a neet so your opinions don't matter.

Too bad I don't believe that this anime was poorly scripted is an opinion. I know it is poorly written. However, I do enjoy most poor quality anime such as SAO, BB, NGNL, etc.


This is definitely one of the best explanations out there for anyone against the show.
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This might be a bit hard for you to believe, I know I didn't at first, but the thing is that other people actually have different opinions to your own. Crazy, right? How dare they not conform to your opinion on this show, or any other, who the hell do they think they are?
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who gives a fuck its the communitys opinion be that way OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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who gives a fuck its the communitys opinion be that way OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No.

EDIT: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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who gives a fuck its the communitys opinion be that way OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your favourite anime instantly invalidate your opinions on any show.
The end is nigh

Jul 8, 2014 2:30 PM

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Because it's like our dream has come true.

Tell me, who doesn't dream of a world where all you would have to do was playing DA gamez... you could even become a king through da gamez! No shitty school and obligations. Also imagine that harem with those boobs, animal girls and cute moe sister! Like you can't call yourself a man if you haven't dreamt about it at least once.

How can you overrate own dream?
slovak125Jul 8, 2014 2:34 PM
Between the adult world and the world of kids,

there, Holyland exists.
Jul 8, 2014 2:42 PM

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Because it's like our dream has come true.

Tell me, who doesn't dream of a world where all you would have to do was playing DA gamez... you could even become a king through da gamez! No shitty school and obligations. Also imagine that harem with those boobs, animal girls and cute moe sister! Like you can't call yourself a man if you haven't dreamt about it at least once.

How can you overrate own dream?
This has got to be one of the most cringe-worthy posts I've read in this site.

PS: I don't think "animal girls" and "cute moe sister" qualify as the dreams of every man. Not all of us are freaks.
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What, did you trust the ratings before. Mal ratings serve their intended purpose by telling us what the community really loves. Certain anime just don't have a chance at getting a really high score due to the size of their target audience. NGNL can be enjoyed by the majority of anime fans, while something like, say, lain can't.

Remember that mal score doesn't promise to be an objective rating of quality. It's meant to help, in part, people decide what to watch.

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Because eva fanboys
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Really 8.84 for this? This here is the reason why ratings on this website cannot be trusted.
We should make it like only a small group of people can give ratings so we can really know what is good and what is less.
Really I have lost faith in MAL right now..

Everyone has a the right to state their own opinion and with this said I respect your believing that this is overrated, BUT when it comes down to it the 67563+ users of MAL that rated this anime averaged around 8.84, therefore their is a much higher probability that the majority of the opinions on the rating of this anime is more logical and depending how you look at it more "correct"
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So much anger for a decent series. Not gonna call it a masterpiece, but I was defiantly entertained every episode. Personal preferences aside, whoever's hating should watch a truly bad anime *cough*Something like Yumaria*cough*. It may not be for you, but that doesn't mean it's bad.
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