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Jul 1, 2010 7:21 AM

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OK what the hell did i just watch, I appreciate new scenes but this was butchered and messed up, i even prefer a slower paced episode then this.
although I praise the quality of the animations for some of the scenes they where really topnotch.
Melman88Jul 1, 2010 7:41 AM
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I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you guys, but this episode was cool, and Yondaime hax.

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Jul 1, 2010 7:24 AM
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So I'm guessing there budget was running low now and they had to down grade the quality at one of the most important parts.
Jul 1, 2010 7:25 AM

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Fierce, furious HATRED!!!
Not to the episode itself; to the creators.
Seriously.

There are some good filler fights - like Kakashi vs Kakuzu.
Why was this one... SO crappy?!

Meh, gonna go and re-read the manga, and try to forget the episode.
Jul 1, 2010 7:35 AM
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OneMore said:

There are some good filler fights - like Kakashi vs Kakuzu.

Was that filler? That was AWESOME! Who directed that? and where can I find him, I'll make him and offer he can't refuse... (guess what I watched last weekend)

Anyone know what's with the two week wait for the next ep? Japanese holiday, end of anime season, double episode, budget problems or just the production team hates me?
Jul 1, 2010 7:35 AM

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Amazingly done, great music, great animation. Although the animation is a bit strange, "trashy" art is what i prefer, it makes it look more natural. You can't expect a character to have a model expression when going at that speed and that was what they showed.
Some expressions were kind of out of place too, but meh. You can't enjoy anything if all you're looking for are faults. Stay positive.

5/5. I were surprised.
Jul 1, 2010 7:37 AM
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The battle was really supposed to be epic, but the wierd animation destroyed it pretty much. Naruto being a laser cannon was kinda great though, so I liked most of it.
Jul 1, 2010 7:41 AM
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new art style was weird, wont say i dislike it, but it really isnt narutoish at all.

the fight was generally good except for the lazers + beamspam crap
Jul 1, 2010 7:46 AM

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Worst animation ever.

The supposed "invincible" tendo Pein turned into whack a mole all of a sudden, what a joke.


Jul 1, 2010 7:51 AM

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hmm i had so many flashbacks of the old sasuke vs naruto fight today, on top of that pain well, the animation well um sucked a lot of times. I read the manga so I was looking forward to this part so much I mean why couldn't they of use the same type of animation as naruto vs orochimaru that was great. Although the wack-a-pain part was hysterical besides parts like that I was very disappointed today, onagi naruto producers-same never do that to us loyal fans again.

edit - there was the one time when i was wondering if pain was attacking or taking a shit it looked that bad.
Jul 1, 2010 7:53 AM

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Ok, a lot of people said the animeation is not naruto-ish, I have to agree with it. (New studio got the anime series or wtf?) I disliked the filler fight, IMMA FIRING MAH LAHZOR O.o.
The second half was really good with the appereance of the 4th hokage, I loved the new ending as well (edit 2: Oh it's Supercell ^^ Bakemonogatari yay!).
For me one of the best moment in the fighthing was 12:28 - 12:34.

Edit: forgot to mention, the music was epic in this episode. There was a song which was kinda like Nightwish in the fight, and the song when Naruto was in "kyuubi world" was heart-touching.
SilgrondJul 1, 2010 8:00 AM
Jul 1, 2010 7:59 AM

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Silgrond said:
of the 5th hokage.


it's the 4th
Jul 1, 2010 7:59 AM

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pokymon said:
Silgrond said:
of the 5th hokage.


it's the 4th

Uh i failed >.<
Jul 1, 2010 8:05 AM
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The team handling this episode deserves a medal. The fight was amusing, and I personally loved the odd art style. It's a shame they're going back to the standard-issue art next episode.
Jul 1, 2010 8:17 AM

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Those were some intense fight sequences.



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Jul 1, 2010 8:21 AM

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I wonder what a moron hired that studio to create this episode. I even didn't know that its possible to fucked so much an episode.. everything looks like a cartoon..
Lets see..

Kyuubi in the raving rabbids form...

Pain the road runner..

Pain's hatred face (and my first facepalm..)

and the winner of this episode:
Pain nailed into the ground xD
hasylyJul 4, 2010 8:57 PM
Jul 1, 2010 8:22 AM

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Huh, they really wanted to make a point with this filler fight, interesting how they were basically trying to recreate the same original fight with Sasuke and Naruto. But yea lasers over the top and apparently Pain is an avid Earthbender (sorry couldnt help it). From what I remember, the manga actually made this Fox transformation pretty short in comparison. Although I did enjoy the final sequence between Naruto and the Fox, and of course the Minaots voice, first time ive heard hims since coming back to the anime.
Jul 1, 2010 8:25 AM

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sasuke22 said:
NARUTO = EPIC
If u don't like it drop it !!! 0.o
The username says it all. Nuff said.


Edited:
Anyone who thought the animation of this episode was good should watch more of Madhouse, BONES, Sunrise or even SHAFT's works because this was a trainwreck. Pain's face was lolwut for most of the episode. Although there are a lot of added fight scenes to make the episode longer, this was also a fail. Whack-a-Pain anyone? And water coming out from underground did not make sense, nor does Six-tails Naruto shooting laser beams and breathing fire and Pain's skin not burning when blocking Naruto's attacks. Though the last part of Chibaku Tensei(Planetary Devastation is a pretty cool name) and Naruto almost unsealing Kyuubi was kind of great. I was expecting a lot from this part of the manga but it was kind of disappointing. Oh well >.<
belatkuroJul 1, 2010 9:38 AM
Jul 1, 2010 8:27 AM

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I want more! xD

Episodes was realy good!
Jul 1, 2010 8:28 AM

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I agree the drawing style of this ep reminds hell of a lot of FLCL, but come on people! Naruto hasn't been this good since before Sasuke went rogue. Storywise I'm excited (and hoping they don't screw up) over the coming eps!
Jul 1, 2010 8:39 AM
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sure is epic trolling there
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SEE THE INVISIBLE TOUCH THE UNTOUCHABLE
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER
Jul 1, 2010 8:44 AM

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Hated It.

Animation sucks! o_O
Jul 1, 2010 8:50 AM

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Nice episode. like filler fight.. but really weird animation... its like they were doing practice.
Jul 1, 2010 8:56 AM
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Animations sucks donkey balls.

Jul 1, 2010 8:57 AM

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Awesome =D
Loved it overall ^^
Jul 1, 2010 8:59 AM

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Whats with all the bitching? would you guys prefer the animation in 163 or this?

yeah thats what I thought

I didnt mind the animation, sure there are few chunky moments but the action was just amazing and I loved the ending where 4th comes out, this is definetly one the best episodes to date.
Jul 1, 2010 9:02 AM

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the filler at the beginning annoyed me.....wish he'd gone straight to 6 tails like in the manga

but it got better at the end which made me give it 4/5 :)
Jul 1, 2010 9:08 AM

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NegativeDeath said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Loved it.

From Naruto playing whack-a-mole with Pain, to his silly expressions throughout.

thanks a million for creating the thread and relieving us from weekly trollery . .

The episode was nice . . Animation was wonky , art was inconsistent . Barring that , it was good . . .
4/5 . . . For me

@belatkuro , don't forget sTUDIO BONES mate . .
so much hate against a decent episode is not welcome . Don't forget production costs/cuts guys . We had a great episode last week , but this week there was a slight drop in animation/art . .
And please don't compare MADHOUSE to PIERROT , most of madhouse's shows are short anime wit adequate budget . Most of pierrot's shows are long shows wit limited budget and loads of filler (thanks to the mangaka's laziness) . . So there's no point in comparing the two studios . .
lafuria_suxJul 1, 2010 9:19 AM
Jul 1, 2010 9:09 AM

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blu_d said:
Complaining aside is it me or have the recent episodes of Shippuuden have been a mashup of the following:

Looney toons/Tex Avery
The Pain wack a mole stuff

Dragonball
The giant monkey that Goku turns into until his tail is removed.

Dragonball Z
Powerups... endless powerups.

And lack of detail in fights. Oh, and the location of the fight (why are they always in the desert in DBZ?)

Star Wars
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ninetails laser beams=star wars

and then minato coming to see naruto, after the star wars parody...its begging for "Naruto, im your father."... "NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!"

& the death star mudball

Bleach
Naruto's Kyuubi hollow mask, and...
blu_d said:
Powerups... endless powerups.



Yeah that's right I quoted myself. I just don't give a F@$%!



pain ruining like sonic the hedgehog,,then sliceding like shadow the hedgehog.

thats unexpected , but epic, love the powershow and laser
i am going to be the i the one with the biggest manga pocket collgection

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Jul 1, 2010 9:13 AM

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i dislike the way they made it look >.> fucking whack-a-mole? are you freaking kidding me
Jul 1, 2010 9:17 AM
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I must say that this is the first time I have ever felt the need to post something after reading so much negativity. First of all, the animation really wasn't that bad, especially not nine-tails Naruto. Second, yeah there were parts that were added that were not in the manga but to be honest I thought it was better they did that, this is freakin nine-tails Naruto vs Pain!!! The manga fight was too damn short and if anything THIS episode showcased much more of the nine tails capacity then the manga did. Third, as far as showcasing his abilities, I will admit they could have added some more interesting abilities to further show the kyuubi's power but I do admit laser beams and shots, that don't need to be charged-like his chakra-belly ka-me-ha-me-ha thing- are an upgrade in power in my opinion. And finally fourth :) (no pun intended), Its Kishi's story, he can change and alter whatever he wants! I am sure he saw the production before he released it, so if u can't find any way to appreciate many of the good qualities that episode had to offer then stop watching it (that was meant for those who completely downplayed the episode). Damn that was too much....I feel like a filler :(
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Why is it such a bad thing that the animation reminds you of FLCL? That's not a bad thing, it's marvelous. This is how Naruto should've been animated to begin with. They used the same animators in a couple of episodes in the Asuma arc, and, of course, the Naruto vs. Sasuke fight a long time ago. Nothing has moved so much in an episode of Naruto since I can't remember when! The action blasted out from beginning to end. Why're you calling the beginning a filler in such a negative way? I think it's great that they added something extra and didn't stick to the manga. It's the best freaking thing about this episode. Facts, not opinions (EDIT: I meant the other way around >_>). Too bad it looks like this mindblowing animation won't continue with the next episode.
NaratchiJul 1, 2010 10:43 AM
Jul 1, 2010 9:24 AM

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The graphics were enjoyably bizarre. ^^ And Narutototally nailed Pain quite literally. xD
Jul 1, 2010 9:25 AM

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Ah yes... the ED is posted in Youtube.

Sorry for being a jerk, but I was just hanging around here to get some information about that ED (you guys probably don't care about me anyway). So now I'll go away, never to be seen in this board for Naruto again.

Happy discussing!
Jul 1, 2010 9:26 AM
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belatkuro said:
sasuke22 said:
NARUTO = EPIC
If u don't like it drop it !!! 0.o
The username says it all. Nuff said.

>_>
Jul 1, 2010 9:28 AM

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The animation was horrible. I mean come on... in the first part of the fight it was like everything was made out of blocks. Even the faces were drawn strange at firs... when I first saw sakura I thought that I was seeing the Naruto series? WTF??? Is she using anti-aging cream already or something?....
Jul 1, 2010 9:28 AM

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i didn't like this one..i mean, it was so badass, but i felt like the only thing missing was an anvil fall on pain..haha but i don't want that feeling from a pinnacle episode like this.
Jul 1, 2010 9:31 AM
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Naratchi said:
Why is it such a bad thing that the animation reminds you of FLCL? That's not a bad thing, it's marvelous. This is how Naruto should've been animated to begin with. They used the same animators in a couple of episodes in the Asuma arc, and, of course, the Naruto vs. Sasuke fight a long time ago. Nothing has moved so much in an episode of Naruto since I can't remember when! The action blasted out from beginning to end. Why're you calling the beginning a filler in such a negative way? I think it's great that they added something extra and didn't stick to the manga. It's the best freaking thing about this episode. Facts, not opinions. Too bad it looks like this mindblowing animation won't continue with the next episode.


i agree the haters are just complaining about the art but on the animation side this episode is top notch and i bet those haters will not complain about the animation on this episode plus personally im more interested in animation than the drawing itself so this episode rocks for me too
Jul 1, 2010 9:32 AM

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when naruto hit 1 of the pains they were KO, now he hits 1 with a 10ton rock and all he does is goe in the ground ? :s besides that very nice episode :D
Jul 1, 2010 9:34 AM

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what an epic episode. i was so mesmerized the whole episode, it felt like it was a movie that i didnt want to end. shame the whole show wasnt animated like this.next ep looks like animation is going back to normal >.< not lookin foward to it
Jul 1, 2010 9:47 AM

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Minato Please save naruto now lol


Jul 1, 2010 10:09 AM

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Oh gawd guys, I think the Japanese have found out how edit videos with Adobe Flash =/

Wtf animation, and I can't believe Fai was right, the animators really do hate the character Naruto. I'm more concerned about the fact that Fai was right though.
lucjanJul 1, 2010 10:12 AM

Jul 1, 2010 10:11 AM

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This fight with such art style was ridiculous. It is NOT Gurren Lagann!
Jul 1, 2010 10:18 AM

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It gets kinda sad when an anime such as AIR TV from 2005 has animation three times as good as an anime from mid 2010

Jul 1, 2010 10:20 AM

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Naratchi said:
Why is it such a bad thing that the animation reminds you of FLCL? That's not a bad thing, it's marvelous. This is how Naruto should've been animated to begin with. They used the same animators in a couple of episodes in the Asuma arc, and, of course, the Naruto vs. Sasuke fight a long time ago. Nothing has moved so much in an episode of Naruto since I can't remember when! The action blasted out from beginning to end. Why're you calling the beginning a filler in such a negative way? I think it's great that they added something extra and didn't stick to the manga. It's the best freaking thing about this episode. Facts, not opinions. Too bad it looks like this mindblowing animation won't continue with the next episode.


First of all, listen man everybody has a right to give his opinion on the matter but calling your opinion fact is stupid. Second, adding something extra that didn't happen in the manga is ok but not like this. This is not just over the top, it also doesn't make any sense (nine tales punched pain in the face and he just shrugs it off like it was nothing,when since he didn't use shinra tensei that should kill him). Third, you can do animation as good as you want but when the characters look like this it's awful.
Jul 1, 2010 10:24 AM

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Bierzgal said:
Didin't like the new style. It's like it was made by the creators of FLCL. Very grotesque and not-Narutoish. The filler part of the fight was also too much overboard.




This ^

And I'll add that I was really, really looking forward to this and I'm so very dissapointed. All I can assume is that they had to sub the director.



-Voltekka- said:

First of all, listen man everybody has a right to give his opinion on the matter but calling your opinion fact is stupid. Second, adding something extra that didn't happen in the manga is ok but not like this. This is not just over the top, it also doesn't make any sense (nine tales punched pain in the face and he just shrugs it off like it was nothing,when since he didn't use shinra tensei that should kill him). Third, you can do animation as good as you want but when the characters look like this it's awful.


That is awful, I agree with Voltekka.
And also we are aloud our opinions, I've never seen Studio Pierrot do such a bad animation job.
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This made me lololololololololololol all over the place


Jul 1, 2010 10:41 AM

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-Voltekka- said:
First of all, listen man everybody has a right to give his opinion on the matter but calling your opinion fact is stupid. Second, adding something extra that didn't happen in the manga is ok but not like this. This is not just over the top, it also doesn't make any sense (nine tales punched pain in the face and he just shrugs it off like it was nothing,when since he didn't use shinra tensei that should kill him). Third, you can do animation as good as you want but when the characters look like this
it's awful.
I see.

This is more like a love it/hate it kind of animation then. I think those frames look hilarious! Although it would never have been drawn in the manga. It makes you think they move very, very fast though, right? Haha, and I agree that it doesn't quite make sense how Pain took that hit like nothing (but THE hit was amazing!). Let's leave that for Kishimoto.
Jul 1, 2010 10:42 AM

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So from what I get out of this is that people would actually prefer pwetty pictures over fluid animation...no wonder why most anime have bad animation all the time. This episode is one of the few Naruto episodes that doesn't have a whole lot of still frames. Oh and btw, of course the artwork looks bad but we're not reading a manga here aren't we? We see it move.
Jul 1, 2010 10:57 AM

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That was some nice fighting there.
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