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May 12, 7:27 AM
#1
Welp, there it is. The twisted idelogy of Stendhal shown in full force, of what he considers "evil". Reminds me of the Punisher from the Daredevil franchise. Tbh, I love the psychology of this episode. Not sure how I feel about Soga yet but he's someone to keep an eye on. This season seems like the perfect fit for a guy like him. |
Stark700May 12, 7:57 AM
May 12, 7:38 AM
#2
stendhal has become hero killer stain!!!!! |
May 12, 7:58 AM
#3
It's funny how they gave this intro on the yakuza gang at the start of the episode, only for them to get murdered in under a minute. Stendhal really thinks that having a bigger villain bring out a smaller villain justifies his actions of leaving the bigger, his so-called "vermin," for later. Bro talks about Kouichi being evil for helping Soga live, and yet he thinks he has any right to speak when he's working with evil to slay other evil—what a hypocrite Knuckleduster talks about masks and how a person's personality changes after wearing one and then removing it—and then we see Kouichi looking into the mirror, and All Might is there, lmao. So Stendhal turns out to be a psycho murderer in the end, and it turns out that he's the Hero Killer Stain. We learn the reason he started killing heroes—it’s because he got his ass handed to him by none other than Knuckleduster. The dude's so messed up in the head that he did a 180° and started going after heroes instead of villains, claiming they lacked resolve. This narcissistic piece of shit should have died in this series, but well, what can we do. And if he was going for the kill, then seriously—the eyes aren't the right place, that's where Bee Girl stores her bees, dumbass. Should've gone for the heart or something. If I read the reactions correctly, then I'm guessing Soga figured out how Kazuho feels about Kouichi. |
XArceusXMay 12, 3:32 PM
May 12, 8:06 AM
#4
XArceusX said: So Stendhal turns out to be a psycho murderer, and he reminds me of that guy from the main series—I can't remember his name. Hero Killer Stain |
May 12, 8:31 AM
#5
Stendhal is completely nuts. His twisted idea of justice seems to have made him a deranged killer and someone devoid of common sense. That's what made Knuckleduster defeat him and his words resonated to the point of... cutting off his nose... yeah that's a lot of blood. Too bad Pop didn't arrive sooner to mend Koichi's injuries and had to settle with Soga. His heroism shows that much more. Halfway through and this is consistently good. PS: This is just a bit of info you probably already know but in MAL there is an option to ignore users. Yeah, I didn't know it was a thing until last week. How cool is that. |
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May 12, 9:23 AM
#6
Villain origin story, what a punch to the face can do to a man. Stendhal to Stain, kinda a lame name change. ![]() |
May 12, 9:48 AM
#7
Soga is just my type! I'm glad he survive (and shirtless too), Knuckleduster kickass as usual. Anyway, this episode dives into the mind of various villains. Some are villain because it's the occupation (those yakuza), some are villain because they're being discriminated by the society (like Soga group), some are villain because they just want to watch the world burn (the bee girl and her master, you know who), and of course there's a guy like Stendhal that think his existense and his action serve a greater good. |
May 12, 10:05 AM
#8
Well, we knew who he likely was. Well, before he became THAT guy. Clearly, he has been a candidate for a mental institution for a long time now. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face! Those Yakuza guys had some pretty weird quirks. |
May 12, 10:17 AM
#9
When I first read MHA and met Stain I thought he had a reasonable perspective on things. And still I think he had some interesting criticisms that of heroes even if killing them for it is insane. Getting this backstory now it feels much more clear that he was always deluded to some degree and just as much of a sensationalist as many of the other villains from MHA. Still a great villain. |
May 12, 10:20 AM
#10
May 12, 10:28 AM
#11
Stendhal's ideal on what justice should be is only makes me think of him more of a complete psychopath. Knuckleduster came in to save the day and what a punch he landed on Stendhal's face that sent him flying. The fight itself did go on longer than expected, but it ended with Stendhal making a retreat. After what had happened, he altered his appearance by cutting off his own nose, which was rather disturbing before limping off with his new goal in mind. This is the beginning of the infamous hero killer Stain and his backstory thus far has been a very interesting one. While this episode was pretty serious, there was a cute moment when Pop Step arrived but ended up having to heal Soga since Knuckleduster was tending to Koichi's wound. Even Soga noticed and acknowledged that Pop Step likes Koichi after seeing her blush after mentioning his name, which was a cute moment to behold. =) |
May 12, 11:14 AM
#12
So that's his backstory. |
May 12, 11:18 AM
#13
This episode was bittersweet, as it showed Stain's origin, they also wanted to romanticize and create a 'motivation' for one of the villains who abuses one of the protagonists of the series, and they even make her, who clearly harbors hatred for the villain, help the villain recover. Honestly, this was something I didn't like; Stain saved this episode. |
May 12, 12:02 PM
#14
Stendhal crossing the line into something more. This is the culmination of his transformation into the person we meet later chronologically in the main series. Bee is really becoming a problem. She's sticking herself into everything going on. These experiments with different formulas for trigger are running rampant. Just as someone she drugged before is recovering she swoops in again to administer it once more. Soga with his spikes seems to have some sense of morality at least turning her down. While I still don't like him necessarily, I can see where his rotten attitude comes from. Feeling resentment to the world for people judging him harshly. He did turn down Bee when she offered more power so that's something in his favor, he's not power hungry. Stendhal meanwhile is just a psycho, dishing out his personal judgement. First with those yakuza then on the villains nearby. Slashing his way down the list Bee provided. Coming to a head against Soga himself after Bee spiked him with her, well bees. Koichi coming to Soga rescue was surprising, but he does have a strong sense of justice like a true hero. He really saved his life since their brief escape gave Knuckleduster time to arrive! An awesome exchange between him and Stendhal! Really showing that they might not be heroes but these vigilantes aren't crazed slashers like this guy. There's similarities but massive differences that set them apart. The line metaphor and crossing it was done perfectly to get that point across. Knuckleduster pulling the surprise of crossing the wire to knock Stendhal face in! I loved their fight even if it was short. They got roughed up but everyone made it out of that interaction ok. |
May 12, 12:07 PM
#15
Why the hell did Soga go to Hachisuka alone? Was it because Pop Step and Crawler declined? Or did he not expect to be actually ambushed there? Anyway, Soga's backstory is sad which is to be expected. But after the guy nearly raped Pop Step with his buddies it's a bit hard to feel any more sympathy for him. It feels bad that Koichi seemingly forgot about it. Stendhal is fucking crazy. He just massacres people just for some crazy ideal. And after hearing some random monologue from a random vigilante who doesn't even have a quirk he decided to completely change his identity. Stain's origin was absolutely crazy. This episode was great. Looks like one of the characters from the OP will be finally introduced in the next episode. |
May 12, 12:13 PM
#16
I'm so glad they gave this transformation a really sinister and makabre atmosphere. Gives it so much gravitas. But that bee-chick surviving the knife to her face? I don't know about that. Would have loved if he killed her for real with no real build-up. It kinda surprised me and would've fitted the scene. I really don't really like her attitude, she seems so comically evil, I can't take her serious. But I guess it makes sense because she's still a teenager with no developed sense of good/evil and just rebelling against the system. I'm wondering when the big bad man pulling the strings finally shows up. |
May 12, 12:15 PM
#17
This episode was really nice. Wow. |
May 12, 12:17 PM
#18
it was very good but is it a copy of Stain??? E6:8/10 |
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May 12, 1:22 PM
#21
Stendhal AKA Hero Killer Stain was always a menace! Knuckleduster wasn’t having any of his shenanigans though. Knuckleduster got caught up in Stendhal’s quirk, but Stendhal got caught up in Knuckleduster’s words. For a second I thought the bee girl died when Stendhal stabbed her, but nope. She’s still alive and gonna continue wrecking havoc. |
MasterKJun 10, 1:40 PM
May 12, 1:29 PM
#22
SHIIIT that was peak. Stain/Stendhal is such a fun character with his twisted ideology, it was great seeing more of the legendary alum (Soga) and I'm glad Koichi managed to save his hide. |
May 12, 1:32 PM
#23
Reply to 0451
Why the hell did Soga go to Hachisuka alone? Was it because Pop Step and Crawler declined? Or did he not expect to be actually ambushed there? Anyway, Soga's backstory is sad which is to be expected. But after the guy nearly raped Pop Step with his buddies it's a bit hard to feel any more sympathy for him. It feels bad that Koichi seemingly forgot about it.
Stendhal is fucking crazy. He just massacres people just for some crazy ideal. And after hearing some random monologue from a random vigilante who doesn't even have a quirk he decided to completely change his identity. Stain's origin was absolutely crazy.
This episode was great. Looks like one of the characters from the OP will be finally introduced in the next episode.
Stendhal is fucking crazy. He just massacres people just for some crazy ideal. And after hearing some random monologue from a random vigilante who doesn't even have a quirk he decided to completely change his identity. Stain's origin was absolutely crazy.
This episode was great. Looks like one of the characters from the OP will be finally introduced in the next episode.
@0451 Pretty sure Soga went there because of his buds. He suspected trouble and went to make sure they'd be safe. As much of an asshole as he initially appeared to be, this episode made me like him much more, sure he tried to do a terrible thing (rather hard to forgive said thing), but that certainly didn't mean he deserved to die. I just hope we get a better redemption to his character instead of riding off of the sympathy of his backstory. |
May 12, 1:36 PM
#24
TheNoo said: @0451 Pretty sure Soga went there because of his buds. He suspected trouble and went to make sure they'd be safe. As much of an asshole as he initially appeared to be, this episode made me like him much more, sure he tried to do a terrible thing (rather hard to forgive said thing), but that certainly didn't mean he deserved to die. I just hope we get a better redemption to his character instead of riding off of the sympathy of his backstory. Him and his buds apologizing to Pop Step in any way would be a good start. But that could potentially create a different problem if she forgives them too easily. It'd undermine the seriousness of their crime. |
May 12, 1:40 PM
#25
Reply to 0451
TheNoo said:
@0451 Pretty sure Soga went there because of his buds. He suspected trouble and went to make sure they'd be safe. As much of an asshole as he initially appeared to be, this episode made me like him much more, sure he tried to do a terrible thing (rather hard to forgive said thing), but that certainly didn't mean he deserved to die. I just hope we get a better redemption to his character instead of riding off of the sympathy of his backstory.
@0451 Pretty sure Soga went there because of his buds. He suspected trouble and went to make sure they'd be safe. As much of an asshole as he initially appeared to be, this episode made me like him much more, sure he tried to do a terrible thing (rather hard to forgive said thing), but that certainly didn't mean he deserved to die. I just hope we get a better redemption to his character instead of riding off of the sympathy of his backstory.
Him and his buds apologizing to Pop Step in any way would be a good start. But that could potentially create a different problem if she forgives them too easily. It'd undermine the seriousness of their crime.
@0451 oh 100%, I think the best way to go would be to have them defend her from a villain attack or in some way put themselves at great risk for her safety. That'd be one way to start their redemption properly. I just know for a fact that a lot of the community will be super against forgiving them even if they *do* work hard for it, much like how a lot of the fandom shat on Endeavor and his attempt at redemption for ages (I see that far less now). Sure they *tried* to do a terrible thing, but if someone truly works hard enough they shouldn't be denied the right to forgiveness. |
May 12, 2:20 PM
#26
this bee bih lowkey remind me of the pink hair pillar from fire force pmo |
May 12, 3:32 PM
#27
more and more villains teasing, I can't wait to see when they'll fight against the girl after discovering what's in the background |
May 12, 3:40 PM
#28
Huh, I guess Stendhal was Stain lol, I actually saw people spoiling that last week but chose not to say it in my post, instead I just said “Stain vibes” to not spoil anyone with my own post. Cool reveal tho, I love how we got to see Stendhal become the Stain we know in the main series, wasn’t expecting Knuckleduster to be the one to trigger the change but he sure was badass there, definitely one of his best moments so far. And lol poor Hachisuka fucked around and found out there when she made fun of Stain of all people, too bad it didn’t actually hurt her because that eye is but a socket where her bees come from. And dammit man, why’d they have to go and make me kinda like Soga lol, I didn’t care much for his backstory but the way he resisted using the drug there before taking on Stendhal was a cool moment, such a shame he started out as such an asshole, otherwise I wouldn’t have any issues with growing to like him. But who knows, he may get fully redeemed eventually and his actions in episode 1 won’t be as big an issue, although I know someone out there that made a whole thread about Soga won’t let that get brushed under the rug lol, it’s understandable but it is a TV show, I don’t take it that seriously. |
May 12, 4:15 PM
#29
For those who weren’t able to put the pieces together in the last episode, STENDHAL IS CHIZOME AKAGURO, OR STAIN BY SEASON 2 OF MHA. In the intro, he took out the Abegawa Tenchu gain by immobilizing them via Bloodcurdle (in which we learn that Kuin Hachisuka gave him the blood of some of its members in order to pull this off). Before the major conflict, we learn the names of the three that attacked Pop Step in the first episode. We got the fire guy, Moyuri Tochi, the spiky guy, Soga Kugizaki, and the lizard guy, Rapt Tokage. Those three seem to be pretty good friends and likely have a lot of history together, both good and bad. Then we see that Soga meets up with Kuin, but it ends up being a trap. Soga refuses to use the Trigger, but Kuin forces him by injecting him with using Queen Bee. After that, Stendhal is slashing him up until The Crawler comes in to stop him, like how Deku stopped Stain from killing Native and Ingenium. In some ways, this conflict has similar beats to it. We learn that similar to Hitoshi Shinso, Soga was always misjudged for his quirk, and due to that has likely been trapped in a villainous box that he hasn’t been able to escape from. Despite this, he didn’t go wild when injected with Trigger. Of course we know how Stendhal operates, so he was insistent on killing Soga, but then Knuckleduster comes into the fray. Stendhal recognizes his abilities and knows that he can’t simply outspeed him. Knuckleduster uses a wire to tell him that if he crosses the line, he’s getting decked. However, Stendhal doesn’t even cross it before Knuckleduster punches him in the face and breaks his mask. Knuckleduster talks about how Stendhal is just a facade and crumbles when the mask is broken, and that made him snap. He attacks Knuckleduster and is able to use Bloodcurdle, but he retreats instead. We then see him CUT OFF HIS OWN NOSE in order to permanently dawn his idea of heroism. Also we see Soga interact with Pop Step and from the looks of it, Soga knows that Pop Step likes Koichi, so we’ll see how that goes. What’s about to go down next? Who is Makoto and will she be involved with the vigilante work? |
May 12, 4:17 PM
#30
Reply to TheColonel76
Huh, I guess Stendhal was Stain lol, I actually saw people spoiling that last week but chose not to say it in my post, instead I just said “Stain vibes” to not spoil anyone with my own post. Cool reveal tho, I love how we got to see Stendhal become the Stain we know in the main series, wasn’t expecting Knuckleduster to be the one to trigger the change but he sure was badass there, definitely one of his best moments so far. And lol poor Hachisuka fucked around and found out there when she made fun of Stain of all people, too bad it didn’t actually hurt her because that eye is but a socket where her bees come from.
And dammit man, why’d they have to go and make me kinda like Soga lol, I didn’t care much for his backstory but the way he resisted using the drug there before taking on Stendhal was a cool moment, such a shame he started out as such an asshole, otherwise I wouldn’t have any issues with growing to like him. But who knows, he may get fully redeemed eventually and his actions in episode 1 won’t be as big an issue, although I know someone out there that made a whole thread about Soga won’t let that get brushed under the rug lol, it’s understandable but it is a TV show, I don’t take it that seriously.
And dammit man, why’d they have to go and make me kinda like Soga lol, I didn’t care much for his backstory but the way he resisted using the drug there before taking on Stendhal was a cool moment, such a shame he started out as such an asshole, otherwise I wouldn’t have any issues with growing to like him. But who knows, he may get fully redeemed eventually and his actions in episode 1 won’t be as big an issue, although I know someone out there that made a whole thread about Soga won’t let that get brushed under the rug lol, it’s understandable but it is a TV show, I don’t take it that seriously.
@TheColonel76 It wasn't a spoiler because people knew simply from his behavior that it was Chizome Akaguro. |
May 12, 4:19 PM
#31
Reply to TheNoo
@0451 Pretty sure Soga went there because of his buds. He suspected trouble and went to make sure they'd be safe. As much of an asshole as he initially appeared to be, this episode made me like him much more, sure he tried to do a terrible thing (rather hard to forgive said thing), but that certainly didn't mean he deserved to die. I just hope we get a better redemption to his character instead of riding off of the sympathy of his backstory.
@TheNoo I agree. He even said that they don't have anything to do with this. Also Kuin threatened Rapt and Moyuri's lives if he didn't fight Stendhal himself. |
May 12, 4:19 PM
#32
Reply to otakuweek
it was very good but is it a copy of Stain???
E6:8/10
E6:8/10
@otakuweek It's not a copy of Stain, but the real deal. More specifically though, this will be showcasing the journey from Stendhal to Stain. |
May 12, 4:22 PM
#33
Reply to utopica
I'm so glad they gave this transformation a really sinister and makabre atmosphere. Gives it so much gravitas.
But that bee-chick surviving the knife to her face? I don't know about that. Would have loved if he killed her for real with no real build-up. It kinda surprised me and would've fitted the scene.
I really don't really like her attitude, she seems so comically evil, I can't take her serious. But I guess it makes sense because she's still a teenager with no developed sense of good/evil and just rebelling against the system. I'm wondering when the big bad man pulling the strings finally shows up.
But that bee-chick surviving the knife to her face? I don't know about that. Would have loved if he killed her for real with no real build-up. It kinda surprised me and would've fitted the scene.
I really don't really like her attitude, she seems so comically evil, I can't take her serious. But I guess it makes sense because she's still a teenager with no developed sense of good/evil and just rebelling against the system. I'm wondering when the big bad man pulling the strings finally shows up.
@utopica If you mean AFO, likely not anytime soon depending on when this series takes place. If this takes place after his fight with All Might five years before the start of MHA, then he won't physically do anything. The reason I say if is because it isn't established when this series takes place. We know that Tenya is signifcantly younger, but that's about it. There's no proof to indicate this is before or after All Might's injury since when that injury occurred, All Might was still doing hero work (for only 3 hours a day though). |
May 12, 4:25 PM
#34
Reply to Dukino
Stendhal crossing the line into something more. This is the culmination of his transformation into the person we meet later chronologically in the main series. Bee is really becoming a problem. She's sticking herself into everything going on. These experiments with different formulas for trigger are running rampant. Just as someone she drugged before is recovering she swoops in again to administer it once more. Soga with his spikes seems to have some sense of morality at least turning her down. While I still don't like him necessarily, I can see where his rotten attitude comes from. Feeling resentment to the world for people judging him harshly. He did turn down Bee when she offered more power so that's something in his favor, he's not power hungry. Stendhal meanwhile is just a psycho, dishing out his personal judgement. First with those yakuza then on the villains nearby. Slashing his way down the list Bee provided. Coming to a head against Soga himself after Bee spiked him with her, well bees. Koichi coming to Soga rescue was surprising, but he does have a strong sense of justice like a true hero. He really saved his life since their brief escape gave Knuckleduster time to arrive! An awesome exchange between him and Stendhal! Really showing that they might not be heroes but these vigilantes aren't crazed slashers like this guy. There's similarities but massive differences that set them apart. The line metaphor and crossing it was done perfectly to get that point across. Knuckleduster pulling the surprise of crossing the wire to knock Stendhal face in! I loved their fight even if it was short. They got roughed up but everyone made it out of that interaction ok.
@Dukino OH MY GOD YOU'RE A GENIUS. I DIDN'T EVEN SEE THE WHOLE "CROSSING THE LINE" METAPHOR! It really does show the contrast between Koichi's group and what Stendhal is doing. Stendhal has become a lunatic while vigilantes such as Knuckleduster still maintain basic morals. |
May 12, 4:27 PM
#35
Reply to BrettWatchesTV
When I first read MHA and met Stain I thought he had a reasonable perspective on things. And still I think he had some interesting criticisms that of heroes even if killing them for it is insane. Getting this backstory now it feels much more clear that he was always deluded to some degree and just as much of a sensationalist as many of the other villains from MHA. Still a great villain.
@BrettWatchesTV I can understand Stendhal's view on things. Some evils in life have to be taken out for good, but he went too far. |
May 12, 4:36 PM
#36
Reply to XArceusX
It's funny how they gave this intro on the yakuza gang at the start of the episode, only for them to get murdered in under a minute.
Stendhal really thinks that having a bigger villain bring out a smaller villain justifies his actions of leaving the bigger, his so-called "vermin," for later. Bro talks about Kouichi being evil for helping Soga live, and yet he thinks he has any right to speak when he's working with evil to slay other evil—what a hypocrite
Knuckleduster talks about masks and how a person's personality changes after wearing one and then removing it—and then we see Kouichi looking into the mirror, and All Might is there, lmao.
So Stendhal turns out to be a psycho murderer in the end, and it turns out that he's the Hero Killer Stain. We learn the reason he started killing heroes—it’s because he got his ass handed to him by none other than Knuckleduster. The dude's so messed up in the head that he did a 180° and started going after heroes instead of villains, claiming they lacked resolve.
This narcissistic piece of shit should have died in this series, but well, what can we do. And if he was going for the kill, then seriously—the eyes aren't the right place, that's where Bee Girl stores her bees, dumbass. Should've gone for the heart or something. If I read the reactions correctly, then I'm guessing Soga figured out how Kazuho feels about Kouichi.
Stendhal really thinks that having a bigger villain bring out a smaller villain justifies his actions of leaving the bigger, his so-called "vermin," for later. Bro talks about Kouichi being evil for helping Soga live, and yet he thinks he has any right to speak when he's working with evil to slay other evil—what a hypocrite
Knuckleduster talks about masks and how a person's personality changes after wearing one and then removing it—and then we see Kouichi looking into the mirror, and All Might is there, lmao.
So Stendhal turns out to be a psycho murderer in the end, and it turns out that he's the Hero Killer Stain. We learn the reason he started killing heroes—it’s because he got his ass handed to him by none other than Knuckleduster. The dude's so messed up in the head that he did a 180° and started going after heroes instead of villains, claiming they lacked resolve.
This narcissistic piece of shit should have died in this series, but well, what can we do. And if he was going for the kill, then seriously—the eyes aren't the right place, that's where Bee Girl stores her bees, dumbass. Should've gone for the heart or something. If I read the reactions correctly, then I'm guessing Soga figured out how Kazuho feels about Kouichi.
XArceusX said: Bro talks about Kouichi being evil for helping Soga live, and yet he thinks he has any right to speak when he's working with evil to slay other evil—what a hypocrite Stendhal isn't really a hypocrite here because he has every intention on taking down Kuin later on, but he knows that he has to bide his time. This is equivalent to police using criminals to infiltrate into bigger crime operations. XArceusX said: The dude's so messed up in the head that he did a 180° and started going after heroes instead of villains, claiming they lacked resolve. He went after what he calls false heroes, those who do it for their own personal gain rather than the desire to save others. Prime example being when Tenya Iida targeted Stain specifically to kill him rather than worrying about Native who was injured. XArceusX said: And if he was going for the kill, then seriously—the eyes aren't the right place, that's where Bee Girl stores her bees I don't know if he was trying to kill her, but if so, yeah that wasn't the best option. He likely threw the knife out of frustration with himself and her talking pushed him. |
May 12, 4:44 PM
#37
Stendhal being Stain was a great reveal. It does make sense that murderous sword-wielding vigilante with a very black and white view of the world would be the same guy. |
May 12, 4:59 PM
#38
Reply to KingBaller06
@TheColonel76 It wasn't a spoiler because people knew simply from his behavior that it was Chizome Akaguro.
@KingBaller06 Understandable enough, I made the connection myself before even opening MAL, but I still think it woulda been nice if folks held off till the actual reveal. |
May 12, 5:20 PM
#39
this is stain right |
May 12, 5:27 PM
#40
Never thought we'd see the origins of the Hero Killer Stain in 2025! |
May 12, 5:52 PM
#41
Pretty cool to learn about the origin of Stain. His arc was still one of the better MHA ones. Stuff like this makes this spin-off worth watching. |
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May 12, 6:30 PM
#42
@KingBaller06 I agree that Stendhal would have gone for Kuin's head later, but if you remember what he was doing, you see the bigger picture. He was helping her with something much bigger and more dangerous involving the blood samples while she fed his ego by forcibly creating villains for him to slay. Many small-time criminals wouldn't have normally committed major crimes or wreaked havoc like they did after being given those drugs, and he knew all this. When Soga rejected the drug, Stendhal had no right to kill him, as it was possible that Soga wouldn't stay on the evil path. Yet, Stendhal was ready to kill him—mind you, he didn't attack until Kuin forcibly gave Soga the drug. Then Stendhal said to Soga, "You have shown your true colors." Seriously, someone should tell Stendhal that Soga was just minding his own business. As for the hero thing, I also agree that there are some questionable heroes, just like we have corrupt governments, politicians, and police in real life. But that doesn't mean we should kill them for it—instead, we should hold them accountable for their actions. If someone becomes a hero for selfish reasons like money and fame, that's still justifiable because they can only achieve those things by producing results in the field, which comes from helping people. It's not like heroes are harming anyone—in fact, they do the opposite, unlike villains. His method wasn't wrong, but he went the wrong way about it. |
May 12, 9:01 PM
#43
A great episode. Every character is "doing the right thing" as they see it. And pain & blood is the only outcome. And there was a shocking lack of Pop*Step. |
May 12, 9:49 PM
#44
Reply to XArceusX
@KingBaller06 I agree that Stendhal would have gone for Kuin's head later, but if you remember what he was doing, you see the bigger picture. He was helping her with something much bigger and more dangerous involving the blood samples while she fed his ego by forcibly creating villains for him to slay. Many small-time criminals wouldn't have normally committed major crimes or wreaked havoc like they did after being given those drugs, and he knew all this.
When Soga rejected the drug, Stendhal had no right to kill him, as it was possible that Soga wouldn't stay on the evil path. Yet, Stendhal was ready to kill him—mind you, he didn't attack until Kuin forcibly gave Soga the drug. Then Stendhal said to Soga, "You have shown your true colors." Seriously, someone should tell Stendhal that Soga was just minding his own business.
As for the hero thing, I also agree that there are some questionable heroes, just like we have corrupt governments, politicians, and police in real life. But that doesn't mean we should kill them for it—instead, we should hold them accountable for their actions. If someone becomes a hero for selfish reasons like money and fame, that's still justifiable because they can only achieve those things by producing results in the field, which comes from helping people. It's not like heroes are harming anyone—in fact, they do the opposite, unlike villains.
His method wasn't wrong, but he went the wrong way about it.
When Soga rejected the drug, Stendhal had no right to kill him, as it was possible that Soga wouldn't stay on the evil path. Yet, Stendhal was ready to kill him—mind you, he didn't attack until Kuin forcibly gave Soga the drug. Then Stendhal said to Soga, "You have shown your true colors." Seriously, someone should tell Stendhal that Soga was just minding his own business.
As for the hero thing, I also agree that there are some questionable heroes, just like we have corrupt governments, politicians, and police in real life. But that doesn't mean we should kill them for it—instead, we should hold them accountable for their actions. If someone becomes a hero for selfish reasons like money and fame, that's still justifiable because they can only achieve those things by producing results in the field, which comes from helping people. It's not like heroes are harming anyone—in fact, they do the opposite, unlike villains.
His method wasn't wrong, but he went the wrong way about it.
@XArceusX XArceusX said: He was helping her with something much bigger and more dangerous involving the blood samples The blood samples of the Abegawa Tenchu gang were used by Stendhal to take them down (since he needs their blood to immobilize them via Bloodcurdle). Those guys were already committing crimes, so Stendhal used her to get to them easier. XArceusX said: When Soga rejected the drug, Stendhal had no right to kill him During the incident in Episodes 1 and 2, Soga at that time willingly took the drug and prior to that, was threatening Pop Step's life, so he was being a criminal (not a villain by MHA standards since you have to commit multiple crimes before being registered as one). XArceusX said: "You have shown your true colors." I will agree that this was terrible for Stendhal because he saw that Soga was rejecting the drug and that Kuin attacked him with her bees, forcing Trigger into his body. XArceusX said: It's not like heroes are harming anyone—in fact, they do the opposite, unlike villains. There are heroes such as Slidin' Go who are heroic in the public eye, but are engaged in terrible things. As you pointed out, corruption exists IRL. This is why the Hero Commission recruited Lady Nagant and Hawks to take out these pro heroes from the shadows. XArceusX said: His method wasn't wrong, but he went the wrong way about it. I'm assuming you also don't like his methods when he becomes Stain? Because his ideals don't change too much between here and MHA all things considered. Basically if somebody crosses the dark side, or does anything that isn't in line with a true hero, they deserve to die, from Stendhal/Stain's perspective. He doesn't believe in redemption. I do agree that Chizome Akaguro (Stendal/Stain's real name) is too extreme. You have to admit that he gets results. In Season 2, crime went down and heroes improved as a result of Stain's actions. |
May 12, 9:54 PM
#45
Stendahl crosses the line and descends into darkness |
May 12, 9:57 PM
#46
This episode was dark as fuck, I love it 😭 Knuckleduster, quirkless and alone, did what Deku, with 20% OFA and 2 partners, couldn't 😂 I don't get it tho, why did Stain let that bitch give them drugs? He knows she is a villain, and knows that by using that drug normal people turn into villains by force... does he want to create fake villains just so he can kill them? As crazy as a motive that is, I could understand it, but at the same time that's the absolute opposite of his character, this was weird. |
Sorry if my english is bad (っ˘▽˘)っ~~~ Btw, cry about it. |
May 12, 10:25 PM
#47
May 12, 10:47 PM
#48
That was an amazing episode. I loved the focus on Stain and his new backstory in real time. Perfect episode. Knuckleduster is hilarious. |
May 13, 12:57 AM
#49
StallionXD said: This episode was dark as fuck, I love it 😭 Knuckleduster, quirkless and alone, did what Deku, with 20% OFA and 2 partners, couldn't 😂 I don't get it tho, why did Stain let that bitch give them drugs? He knows she is a villain, and knows that by using that drug normal people turn into villains by force... does he want to create fake villains just so he can kill them? As crazy as a motive that is, I could understand it, but at the same time that's the absolute opposite of his character, this was weird. Deku was using 5% of ofa when he fought Stain. |
May 13, 2:29 AM
#50
quick question: is the anime changing the order of stuff? I read the manga up until the point where i think this first season cour will end (well after the character shown in the post ending credits "next ep preview" shows up) but i dont remember Stendhal showing up now.... I also dont remember his fight with Knuckleduster. maybe im just having a bad memory blank cuz i read it when it came out years ago but now im curious if they are rearranging the order of events or adding extra scenes |
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