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| Loulan bids us farewell, but Shisui lives on... I'm honestly pretty speechless about how that turned out. Yes, I did expect Loulan to meet her end at the end of this arc, but that didn't make it hit any less harder. Shenmei's reality got shattered, Shishou met a bitter end, and this is really the ultimate closure that these characters got here. The insert song was spectacular at the end, and the queen of acting, Loulan went out on her own terms, pretty much. The most free she has ever been, dancing in the moonlight there, with a genuine smile on her face. We'll miss the times she had with Maomao earlier on in this season, and what seemed like just simple slice of life before, made things all the more bittersweet as this arc came to an end. Excellent, excellent stuff, truly. |
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@k4zeman Jinshi granting her wish to die
| @Niwaka-Samurai It also gives the vibes that she scarred his face so he can't go back to his old role. I think Loulan pushed him forward to help Maomao, but that's just speculation. My overall theories: |
KrowGraveJun 27, 8:12 PM
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@Niwaka-Samurai It also gives the vibes that she scarred his face so he can't go back to his old role. I think Loulan pushed him forward to help Maomao, but that's just speculation.
My overall theories:
My overall theories:
| @KrowGrave nice theory..I can see all that you said happening. |
Andrewapps said: No longer,they mentioned last episode of the one before that Gyokuyou new baby was a boy. So he now second in line rather than first.when Jinshi reveals himself as the Crown Prince, |
| Lord Cruelty V "But my Dreams they're not as empty, as my conscience seems to be" |
| RIP Loulan. Shenmei was a b1tch to the very end |
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| They went overboard with the melodrama in this episode. The director should have shown more reserve and taste in the way he handeled the last moments of some of these characters because with so much frill and unnecessery dramatic effect he made their death feel cheap. It was a good example for that sometimes less could have had more impact. |
IshitatesoJun 28, 5:46 AM
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| Am i the only one in this site that i did not care about Loulan's death or this whole entire arc, in general? Because from my point of view, this was by far the most boring arc i've experienced in Kusuriya no Hitorigoto. And that is that: 1) The pacing is insanely slow, to the point that i felt that the anime drags on like forever up to this point. 2) I did not cared much for Loulan as a character and this arc was really unecessary and waste of episodes' own lenght. And 3) Even if i did cared much about all of this, it felt more like the author of the manga tried desperately to create some kind of plot device to kill off someone who rarely appears that often in the anime and has no emotional impact on me, other than being one of Maomao's friend. And as far as i see, this was what ruined the anime for me and honestly, this arc did not change or made any difference to the whole story of Kusuriya no Hitorigoto. |
| "Today's music ain't got the same soul I like that old time rock and roll" -Bob Seger in 1978. |
| Loulan went out in her own terms. Loved her when she was Shisui. Her bubbly vibes and outgoing temparment was her real self. |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| I needed to rewatch some scenes a couple times, any tips on how to train my IQ? |
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The episode is peak af, idk how tf S2 was rated lower than S1 until last week
| @Aadidev69 Because the algorithm for "Airing" anime ratings is different from the algorithm to already finished anime ratings, hence why there's almost always a "jump" (Either positive or negative) once they finish. |
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Personally, I liked this episode and all... BUT did everything need to be so melodramatic? Like, what was Shishou's actual intentions at firing the feifa, there? Did he seriously expect Jinshi to deflect the bullet, because if not... for a guy trying to take the fall while simultaneously putting an end to his wife's farce, that part was just... weird to me.
Then there is Jinshi. Why go through that secret passage first, and by himself? The hell were his guards doing? If Loulan had wanted it, his brain would have been splattered along the walls like an abstract painting.
And lastly... Loulan. Cool, she got to mess with her mother and get some sweet, sweet revenge... but what was with the dancing? Were we ever even told she particularly enjoyed dancing? She's getting shot at (and hit), and she's just... dancing. I guess while moving like that, it's more likely the feifas miss their mark, so when she falls off the balcony and into the snow, she'll be semi-alright? But like... she couldn't have expected the bullet to hit the hairpin under her garb. It's all just so... convenient, and contrived for me. What should have been a very sad, climactic end felt silly to me. So now she's going to survive (I would assume), and flee with that guy that saw her hairpin in the brush at the end of the episode. Even though the guards that had JUST shot her, could have easily gone to confirm her status, instead of just... not caring? Even if they believed she was dead, wouldn't they want to collect the corpse of the Pure Consort, either for a burial or a public displaying for treason?
Just as how, like... why didn't they capture Shishou/Loulan instead of attacking them while they were unarmed and surrounded? Now there is no trial, no facing the Emperor directly, no public shaming/execution for the coup d'état, nada.
Again, liked the episode, and this whole treason arc in general... it has just felt off to me, at times. Why did Loulan even go through with the whole kidnapping Maomao stunt, instead of just... using her influence and power as the Pure Consort, going straight up to the Emperor and tell him 'Hey, my parents are attempting a coup d'état, they are at XXX location, they have firearms, please put an end to them'? Her sister was already safe, acting as a servant in the rear palace, and through revealing her parents' betrayal, she probably could have bargained towards saving a lot more people (including the innocent kids, without resorting to the revival drug), if that was her goal. Just... strange.
Then there is Jinshi. Why go through that secret passage first, and by himself? The hell were his guards doing? If Loulan had wanted it, his brain would have been splattered along the walls like an abstract painting.
And lastly... Loulan. Cool, she got to mess with her mother and get some sweet, sweet revenge... but what was with the dancing? Were we ever even told she particularly enjoyed dancing? She's getting shot at (and hit), and she's just... dancing. I guess while moving like that, it's more likely the feifas miss their mark, so when she falls off the balcony and into the snow, she'll be semi-alright? But like... she couldn't have expected the bullet to hit the hairpin under her garb. It's all just so... convenient, and contrived for me. What should have been a very sad, climactic end felt silly to me. So now she's going to survive (I would assume), and flee with that guy that saw her hairpin in the brush at the end of the episode. Even though the guards that had JUST shot her, could have easily gone to confirm her status, instead of just... not caring? Even if they believed she was dead, wouldn't they want to collect the corpse of the Pure Consort, either for a burial or a public displaying for treason?
Just as how, like... why didn't they capture Shishou/Loulan instead of attacking them while they were unarmed and surrounded? Now there is no trial, no facing the Emperor directly, no public shaming/execution for the coup d'état, nada.
Again, liked the episode, and this whole treason arc in general... it has just felt off to me, at times. Why did Loulan even go through with the whole kidnapping Maomao stunt, instead of just... using her influence and power as the Pure Consort, going straight up to the Emperor and tell him 'Hey, my parents are attempting a coup d'état, they are at XXX location, they have firearms, please put an end to them'? Her sister was already safe, acting as a servant in the rear palace, and through revealing her parents' betrayal, she probably could have bargained towards saving a lot more people (including the innocent kids, without resorting to the revival drug), if that was her goal. Just... strange.
Andrewapps said: Why did Loulan even go through with the whole kidnapping Maomao stunt, instead of just... using her influence and power as the Pure Consort, going straight up to the Emperor and tell him 'Hey, my parents are attempting a coup d'état, they are at XXX location, they have firearms, please put an end to them'? Her sister was already safe, acting as a servant in the rear palace, and through revealing her parents' betrayal, she probably could have bargained towards saving a lot more people Is there a reason why Loulan did not do this? Is it because they would have killed her too, or it simply wouldn't have worked? |
 "Tarapia tapioco! Brematurata la supercazzola, o scherziamo?" |
| Honestly not 100% sure Loulan is dead and that she won't surface again as Shisui as a final "fuck you" to her mother. edit: I see some commentors are saying she shielded herself with the hairpin, but Loulan is a very intelligent character and wouldn't leave that to chance. What I think she might have done is learn all the capabilities of a firearm, including the fact that many layers of silk can act as a early form of kevlar and since soldiers are trained to shoot at the center mass she could have concealed something under her robes and it wouldn't be suspiciously bulky given it was winter. Unless of course it is sheer luck and Loulan is surprised as anyone else she is still alive. |
pixelanteJun 28, 2:59 AM
| SHISUI!!!!!!!!!!!! 12/10 CHARACTER!!!!!!!!! OMG SHE IS SO ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THE KIND OF PERSON THEY TELL TALES ABOUT FOR CENTURIES ADSFKHJLDL;SHKFJADHKFDJASEFDHDSHJAE LEGEND |
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Andrewapps said:
Why did Loulan even go through with the whole kidnapping Maomao stunt, instead of just... using her influence and power as the Pure Consort, going straight up to the Emperor and tell him 'Hey, my parents are attempting a coup d'état, they are at XXX location, they have firearms, please put an end to them'? Her sister was already safe, acting as a servant in the rear palace, and through revealing her parents' betrayal, she probably could have bargained towards saving a lot more people
Why did Loulan even go through with the whole kidnapping Maomao stunt, instead of just... using her influence and power as the Pure Consort, going straight up to the Emperor and tell him 'Hey, my parents are attempting a coup d'état, they are at XXX location, they have firearms, please put an end to them'? Her sister was already safe, acting as a servant in the rear palace, and through revealing her parents' betrayal, she probably could have bargained towards saving a lot more people
Is there a reason why Loulan did not do this? Is it because they would have killed her too, or it simply wouldn't have worked?
| @FrancoMoe It was a test. If the country failed to stop the Shi clan then it deserved to be destroyed - Loulan's own words. |
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@FrancoMoe It was a test. If the country failed to stop the Shi clan then it deserved to be destroyed - Loulan's own words.
| @antonn Ah right, I forgot about that |
| "Tarapia tapioco! Brematurata la supercazzola, o scherziamo?" |
| Whether people want to complain about the staging and animation is one thing. But whether you're complaining that “not enough of Shishou was shown” to move you (no one asked you to be moved, in fact), or that the clan's misdeeds weren't shown enough to make you feel involved... if you're unable to follow a plot that disseminate numerous clues throughout the anime (season 2 and season 1 included), I suppose you can only blame yourself personally. All the more so as the anime insists so much on those details that it's sometimes too obvious when you're a novel reader. Those who criticize the quality of the adaptation are obviously the cheekiest. I think many fans of Mushoku Tensei, Classroom of the Elite, Re:Zero and other popular LNs would have dreamed of having an adaptation as close to the novel as this. With (only anime) new elements. I, myself, am relatively critical of that adaptation, as I feel that certain points should have been better emphasized if the level of direction of season 1 had been maintained. For example, episode 16, when Maomao understands the infirmary's involvement, should have been more explosive. Or Maomao's slap scene should have been better animated. But overall, I have to admit that the adaptation is extremely satisfying and that season 1 had set high standards that I came to be a little fussy about season 2. It was a wonderful way to conclude the arc, still very faithful to the novel with a beautiful dance and song. I suspect that Loulan/Shisui will be a character that will stay with fans of the series for a long time to come. The series has showcased her well in these last two episodes, and I particularly appreciated the anime-exclusive additions to her relationship with Maomao. A bit of a shame that it turned into a ship LouMao though. |
TuyNOMJun 28, 3:27 AM
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| Such a tragic fate for Loulan. But so well written. Bravo! |
| Wait, was the hairpin they pulled out the one Maomao lent to Loulan or was that a separate one? (Because if it's different, does that mean Maomao's never getting that back?) Also... desperately holding onto the thought that Loulan was never seen again, and the bullet wound didn't have blood...but I know that to be false ;-; Edit: After reviewing the comments, I guess I was so close that I missed it lmao. That'd make sense. It'd also make sense with Jinshi never seeing her again plus her very vague wish for the 'dead' ones to be set free. I initally thought it was in reference to the kids, who could have had a delayed drug (i.e. not true poison)--- or just her clan, but maybe it's also about her too Anyways, did not expect to cry my eyeballs out for a character I always felt pretty neutral about |
KaguyachinchinJun 28, 5:19 AM
| I JUST CANT TAKE IT !! JUST CANT !! WHY THIS IS HAPPENED TO HERR !!! SHISUI DONT DESERVED LIKE THIS !! |
| I have a feeling Shisui will survive thanks to the hairpin maomao gave her. Also did Shisui give the kids that resurrection medicine and that is why maomao refused to bury them?? |
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@LordCrueltyV Except Jinshi is... also the Emperor's son, and obviously his eldest. So he is still the first-in-line, at least through legitimacy. But unless he pushes his claim as the Emperor's son instead of his brother, that's just not gonna happen, since practically everyone still believes he is the Emperor's half-brother.
For reference, this was the whole Ah-Duo debacle from S1, with the switched babies at birth.
For reference, this was the whole Ah-Duo debacle from S1, with the switched babies at birth.
| @Andrewapps But, nobody in the palace knows that *spoiler* as as far as the kingdom and the palace is concerned he is the Moon Prince/Royal Brother, and given his history, even if he finds outs out in future, its doubtful if he would accept the role of crown prince that he is now so happily ditching. |
| Lord Cruelty V "But my Dreams they're not as empty, as my conscience seems to be" |
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