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Jun 15, 7:42 PM
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A great twist with great wordplay on the prophecy, with Ame meaning both Rain and Candy. While this series gets pretty silly at times, gotta give the writer credit where it's due. I suppose you could say Keigo's two tone hair may have been a slight giveaway at his other side, but I feel most probably chucked that up to either a design choice or him being a hipster.

It's also cool to see some lore for Nico, and that she's significantly more powerful than other witches, which gives an actual reason for black magic witches to go after her.
@takkun_ I feel like the 1000 Witch designation is a bit exaggerated, since even at current manga, I don't think she quite has more than over 100 spells noted, but I guess if she just has several that are so useless, it'd be a way to make it work without her being OP. And Shinohara has thought out many of the spells in detail that is rare to see, so that's a bonus
Jun 15, 7:43 PM
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No OP and ED this time, so that means more episode time.

Can’t wait to see the fight between Morihito and that guy, he seems strong!
@OtakuKun1 Morihito's fights are definitely the best battle portions in the series overall, we get another one in the next big arc and it amps things up a lot more with even bigger stakes involved
Jun 15, 7:46 PM
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So the Wolf was among them the whole time. I didn't see that coming.

Still, I feel like the next episode is going to be totally predictable. They're going to have their fight, and Wolf will lose (or at best a draw), and then Nico or perhaps Nemu is going to offer him the thing anyway, and he'll switch sides. (The enchanter goofed by offering him something that every witch has and younger witches are less likely to have used up.)

Meanwhile, she'll escape to set up the Big Bad for next season as well.
@Mirality You stumbled onto a few things that are pretty close to true and if the series hadn't done well and Shinohara wanted to move to the next stage for a final battle, this witch could've served in that function quite well, with someone else pulling the strings that I'd love to see animated, but that'd be a ways away, like 2nd season in the late 2020s
Jun 15, 7:50 PM
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So, every with knows about warlocks and the Witch of Thousands except for the one that needs to, Nico. Really dumbshit strategy, Nico's mom.

Keigo was a skater. Figures.

"Am I being dissed right now?"
Later for that, buddy.

"The moon is going all blurry!"
'I have a bad feeling about this.'

And,,,,, The traitor appears, to fuck up the plan. At least he is also the chief goon for the baddies, so Moi does not have to fight two.
@LordCrueltyV The cast does expand and battles become a bit easier, though I think Shinohara does have a solid plan overall for not only the slice of life/comedy aspects, but a final clash that involves the familiars (because Nico gets a few more after Kanshi and Moi)
Jun 15, 8:18 PM
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Oh my god, Keigo was the traitor all along?! I never even suspected that! So we’ve finally learned the identity of the werewolf…

Two quick points worth mentioning! First, the animation and art were clearly weak in this episode. (And just to be clear, I’m comparing the anime to itself, since I know many people get overly emotional whenever someone critiques their favorite show.) I *like* this series and have praised it for the past 10 episodes, but I won’t lie and praise it blindly—the animation this time was just bad.

Second point: the anime has finally entered the main plot! The prophecy Neko’s mom spoke of, using clairvoyant magic at 00:27 in episode 3—can you believe it? We finally got back to the story’s path, started learning about the characters’ pasts, and understanding the significance of being a tengu, a ghoul, or a witch from the Myao family, etc.

Nemo showed great courage, and I hope she gets saved and “Bathed” by Morihito again, hahahaha (just joking).

As usual, Neko completely forgot the seriousness of the situation the moment Morihito praised her! Her heart and love for Morihito are so strong, even Nemo is starting to envy their close relationship.

I’m excited for next week’s episode! See you all in the comments for episode 12...
@AboAhmed130 A ghoul in the traditional sense (not Tokyo Ghoul) in the Witch Watch universe is something I wouldn't have thought of.

But the whole premise of witches and familiars feels like it's already been done in a battle series or at least pitched, but not caught on in serialization. A ghoul descendant feels confusing for one basic reason: wouldn't a ghoul be unable to reproduce, even if it was a male versus a female ghoul? Unless we modify the mythology in some way, though even Tokyo Ghoul has ghouls that can reproduce with themselves and a lot of complexity that I was lost in on the wiki for 15 minutes (half ghouls, half humans, all the kagune stuff)
Jun 15, 8:20 PM
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a little bit of information that was cut in this episode

@ubshii Yep, that would've been important, could've probably used the time they have for the last minute or so with Keigo and Morihito to explain that instead, could've maintained the general flow in the next episode anyway
Jun 15, 8:23 PM
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It makes sense, if there are oni and tengu, that there are werewolves as well, and it's good to see that Nemu I'm hoping that if she's not going to have an affair with Morihito, at least Keigo will be okay, technically they're a bit similar except for the personality traits.
@ShiroAlex The amount of different familiars is not super high, but it keeps getting expanded. It's almost such that the witch variants tend to outpace the familiars, more witches just allying with each other to fight and sometimes having magic that's more combat applicable (because they're warlocks, thus they don't have the limiter witches do)
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They waited until E11 to make it good, and E12 should be just as good. Most of S1 has been tedious fluff
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great episode

so he was the wolf, no way

E11:8/10
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It's sad that Keigo turns out to be a werewolf familiar of the enemy after how his backstory made him more likable :( now it's time for a 1v1 between him and Morihito. They also need to save Nemu... and protect Nico obviously... these magic candies are a real threat
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In this episode where the serious and the facetious mix with an aberrant speed that leaves you a bit disoriented during the narration, the fact that Keigo's character is revealed as the wolf character, did not surprise me that much, someone will ask me why, it is immediately said, in the end his figure had to have a reason in the main cast. However, the drawings were not that great in quality.
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@ShiroAlex The amount of different familiars is not super high, but it keeps getting expanded. It's almost such that the witch variants tend to outpace the familiars, more witches just allying with each other to fight and sometimes having magic that's more combat applicable (because they're warlocks, thus they don't have the limiter witches do)
@holdingnothing That's good to know, too bad it's not more than 26 episodes, but two seasons in a row isn't bad either.
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@ReaperCreeper I checked and one character that'll be interesting to see isn't introduced until chapter 72 and we're still only around 28 iirc at present. Probably in S2 if we get it
@holdingnothing Considering how the anime is shifting things around maybe they could even adapt volume 10 material to end on a big arc.
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@AboAhmed130 A ghoul in the traditional sense (not Tokyo Ghoul) in the Witch Watch universe is something I wouldn't have thought of.

But the whole premise of witches and familiars feels like it's already been done in a battle series or at least pitched, but not caught on in serialization. A ghoul descendant feels confusing for one basic reason: wouldn't a ghoul be unable to reproduce, even if it was a male versus a female ghoul? Unless we modify the mythology in some way, though even Tokyo Ghoul has ghouls that can reproduce with themselves and a lot of complexity that I was lost in on the wiki for 15 minutes (half ghouls, half humans, all the kagune stuff)
@holdingnothing It seems you've gone quite deep into this… but in the end, this is a comedy parody anime, and honestly, to this day I still don’t know if Morihito is an Oni or a Ghoul—just like what’s written on the cup he drinks from!
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a little bit of information that was cut in this episode


Interesting! Thanks a bunch
Jun 16, 9:50 AM

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@FMmatron The ways Shinohara modifies the various monsters into their familiar descendants is fun, though I still think another author could take the concept and turn it into a genuine battle series with some more expansion on things like the supernatural background, etc
@holdingnothing

It's certainly possible and likely that this series will feature more battle shounen elements for some of the big arcs. Many Jump title did so in the past.

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Jun 16, 11:06 AM
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@holdingnothing That's good to know, too bad it's not more than 26 episodes, but two seasons in a row isn't bad either.
@ShiroAlex It's more manageable than the projects that seem to never end and that's slowly going away. Like I'd hope we move past that, the animators that worked on those probably don't have the best life expectancy at present or were replaced in succession
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@holdingnothing It seems you've gone quite deep into this… but in the end, this is a comedy parody anime, and honestly, to this day I still don’t know if Morihito is an Oni or a Ghoul—just like what’s written on the cup he drinks from!
@AboAhmed130 It's an oni, though the backstory of how they came about is pretty distinct, since I'm not sure oni tend to be viewed as a tiger/cow hybrid thing, but in hindsight it kind of works, especially them having a horn or horns and the tiger print loincloths and such they wear (like Lum in Urusei Yatsura and her family)
Jun 16, 11:16 AM
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@holdingnothing Considering how the anime is shifting things around maybe they could even adapt volume 10 material to end on a big arc.
@Alfocrack I'm skimming and there are several chapters that feel like filler, the R63 spell chapter, Kanshi's invisibility spell and probably one of the last chapters in the volume brings Suzuka back, though I wouldn't be shocked if she'd come back sometime before that, but after the tea ceremony situation

But yeah, 86~ features some new witches and leaves things open for another prophecy, because of course that thread is renewed
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@AboAhmed130 It's an oni, though the backstory of how they came about is pretty distinct, since I'm not sure oni tend to be viewed as a tiger/cow hybrid thing, but in hindsight it kind of works, especially them having a horn or horns and the tiger print loincloths and such they wear (like Lum in Urusei Yatsura and her family)
@holdingnothing Yes, I understand. But these kinds of distinctions aren’t really emphasized in our Arab or Arabic-speaking culture.
The terms *oni* and *ghoul* usually get translated the same way—
typically just as “غول” (ghoul), which creates a lot of confusion.
Jun 16, 12:11 PM
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@holdingnothing Yes, I understand. But these kinds of distinctions aren’t really emphasized in our Arab or Arabic-speaking culture.
The terms *oni* and *ghoul* usually get translated the same way—
typically just as “غول” (ghoul), which creates a lot of confusion.
@AboAhmed130 Yeah, that was something a bit confusing in a way with Demon Slayer, since the kanji and word they use is just oni, but they resemble vampires from general fiction way more, right down to the sunlight vulnerability.

It's probably worse with "genie" and what I'd think is not a common reference in anime of djinn, the more proper term for the general race in the folklore, make of smokeless fire, iirc

Ghoul in Tokyo Ghoul kanji wise was supposedly just "eating species", but they did resemble ghouls in barely the one trait: eating human flesh. Otherwise, they're not really shapeshifters, they don't hang around in graveyard and they don't have the sunken facial features that one thinks of (not just in Fallout)

And that kanji for oni is also the one for demon, which can translate several ways and is utilized for even the Japanese word for witch, I believe, the ma in majo, which is also the ma in mazoku, makai, etc. Which Piccolo in Dragon Ball and his father were referred to as mazoku before the Namek reveal, though Daima supposedly retconned that back into them being from the Demon World (don't quote me on that, I haven't properly seen Daima, that's the summary I've heard)
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@ShiroAlex It's more manageable than the projects that seem to never end and that's slowly going away. Like I'd hope we move past that, the animators that worked on those probably don't have the best life expectancy at present or were replaced in succession
@holdingnothing I agree, I hope so too.
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Nemu joins Moi and Kan in helping Nico from the omen. Kanshi was a real one, helping Keigo out. The warlock's familiar is spreading a drug in the school. So Keigo is a former figure-skater, which explains his part in the OP animation.

What a twist. Just like Morihito and Kanshi have Ogre and Tengu features, respectively, Keigo is a werewolf of the present, evolved and more humanlike. A picture of the moon his all he needs, but his "wolf" form still has the shape of a human.
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@holdingnothing I agree, I hope so too.
@ShiroAlex The earliest I can think of that tried something in that vein is Fairy Tail, though I've not properly watched the anime beyond 100 Years Quest and the Fairy Tail Zero arc within Fairy Tail's final season. If Black Clover had done something similar around the end of the arc with the first demon fight, we might've been able to break it up into 2 separate ones, with #2 ending around the point before the time skip and then #3 would adapt everything afterwards, including the final arc in the manga at present
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Here we are guys the plots finally kicked in and we have Moi vs Wolf and judging from the PV this fight bout to be fucking LIT!!!!😩🔥

Kan is SUCH a real nigga man bro went 2 rounds with Wolf knowing he was gonna lose both times that’s dedication fr man props to dude🙌🏽

Nemu finally part of the cast now yay she’s the finest cutest girl in the whole show so I’m happy she’s gonna get more screentime🥰

I like seeing a lot of you be surprised at the plot twist and ong I was the same when I read this in the manga bro Keigo being the villain wasn’t on my bingo card😭
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@holdingnothing Yes, I understand. But these kinds of distinctions aren’t really emphasized in our Arab or Arabic-speaking culture.
The terms *oni* and *ghoul* usually get translated the same way—
typically just as “غول” (ghoul), which creates a lot of confusion.
@AboAhmed130
The English translation calls Moi an "ogre." I think "ogre" and "demon" can be good English equivalents to oni, but Witch Watch should have left it as "oni" just as it uses "tengu" for Kanshi.
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@AboAhmed130 Yeah, that was something a bit confusing in a way with Demon Slayer, since the kanji and word they use is just oni, but they resemble vampires from general fiction way more, right down to the sunlight vulnerability.

It's probably worse with "genie" and what I'd think is not a common reference in anime of djinn, the more proper term for the general race in the folklore, make of smokeless fire, iirc

Ghoul in Tokyo Ghoul kanji wise was supposedly just "eating species", but they did resemble ghouls in barely the one trait: eating human flesh. Otherwise, they're not really shapeshifters, they don't hang around in graveyard and they don't have the sunken facial features that one thinks of (not just in Fallout)

And that kanji for oni is also the one for demon, which can translate several ways and is utilized for even the Japanese word for witch, I believe, the ma in majo, which is also the ma in mazoku, makai, etc. Which Piccolo in Dragon Ball and his father were referred to as mazoku before the Namek reveal, though Daima supposedly retconned that back into them being from the Demon World (don't quote me on that, I haven't properly seen Daima, that's the summary I've heard)
holdingnothing said:
And that kanji for oni is also the one for demon, which can translate several ways and is utilized for even the Japanese word for witch, I believe, the ma in majo, which is also the ma in mazoku, makai, etc. Which Piccolo in Dragon Ball and his father were referred to as mazoku before the Namek reveal, though Daima supposedly retconned that back into them being from the Demon World (don't quote me on that, I haven't properly seen Daima, that's the summary I've heard)

Oni is 鬼 and ma is 魔.
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holdingnothing said:
And that kanji for oni is also the one for demon, which can translate several ways and is utilized for even the Japanese word for witch, I believe, the ma in majo, which is also the ma in mazoku, makai, etc. Which Piccolo in Dragon Ball and his father were referred to as mazoku before the Namek reveal, though Daima supposedly retconned that back into them being from the Demon World (don't quote me on that, I haven't properly seen Daima, that's the summary I've heard)

Oni is 鬼 and ma is 魔.
@Lucifrost I'm only half right, which shouldn't matter that much. The oni kanji is in the ma kanji, which I think is the one used for majo, not oni, which that kanji in combination is usually read ki. As in Kimetsu no Yaiba, Demon Destruction Sword. Now I have to wonder what oni + woman would be, if it isn't already something in folklore
Jun 17, 12:18 AM
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good plot twist for sure
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Nemu finally introduces herself to the others... even if they don't know it I had already met her... only in her cat form 😂.

That plot twist caught me completely off guard! Finding out that Keigo is actually Wolf was totally unexpected. Still, I don't think his betrayal makes him all bad: it's quite possible that deep down he still genuinely cares about Moo, Nico and Kanshi.

And now there's an epic fight coming up - Moi vs. Keigo-ogre vs. werewolf. This is going to be wild.
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The English translation calls Moi an "ogre." I think "ogre" and "demon" can be good English equivalents to oni, but Witch Watch should have left it as "oni" just as it uses "tengu" for Kanshi.
@Lucifrost Thank you truly for the clarification!

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a little bit of information that was cut in this episode

@ubshii Thanks for sharing these!
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I love how Nico baked fresh cookies just to plan their battle strategy, and that she named the floor jellifying spell after Keigo's weird cricket game (Slime Lotion Gel Amoeba) from their long-abandoned YouTubing days (i.e. like a couple weeks ago)

@FarCritical Nice memory!
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holy shit, Keigo is the wolf?? they didn't even foreshadow or give some hint at all and just drop that betrayal scene at the end.
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@Lucifrost Thank you truly for the clarification!

@holdingnothing Your knowledge is rich! I thank you for every word you wrote for me!
@AboAhmed130 If I was as fluent in Japanese as I was knowledgeable on some things, I wouldn't have confused the kanji, but I barely took 2 years of Japanese in college from 2 different professors. I'm probably better at conversational, but even raw anime I can understand about...25% most of the time, I barely have competency at the level of a 1st grader or 2nd grader at most
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holy shit, Keigo is the wolf?? they didn't even foreshadow or give some hint at all and just drop that betrayal scene at the end.
@PinotNoiR_ The getting texts was probably the most blatant attempt at a hint, though if they'd specified the arrangement Wolf had with anyone else was email or such, then Keigo getting the texts would make more sense as a twist, which he explains a bit more about next time, I believe
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the way when I was watching the episode I was like "that's kinda weird the wolf guy and keigo has the same seiyuu" but my brain didn't clicked 😭😭😭
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I loved this episode, it gave us a lot of lore, and some good laughs.

But wtf, I like Keigo, the dude is cool, but now turns out he is Wolf? I don't like that at all, he is also a familiar, a werewolf, that's lame, I wanted him to be just a normal fkng dude that got to be best friends with a trio of "weirdos", even tho the real weirdo is him, that was funnier, but now that we know he also has powers is... lame.

Anyways, NEMU IS SO CUTE WTF NNNNNNNGHHHHHH
Sorry if my english is bad (っ˘▽˘)っ~~~
Btw, cry about it.

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WHAT THE F– I did not see that plot twist coming! I didn't even thought about a Werewolf until the very end, I thought it would just all be Yokai, my dumbass, of course other supernatural monsters would fit too coz we literally have Witches.

And I was glazing Moi so bad too, thinking a mere delinquent named Wolf would pose no challenge, turns out its a Werewolf and its fuckin' Keigo.

When "Wolf" saved Nemu I already thought he could be the familiar Nemu wants, and now that it's revealed that he is Keigo, It's almost definitely set in stone isn't it? Keigo the Werewolf will be Nemu's familiar after all of this.
Also kinda weird that Keigo's a Werewolf yet his legs wont heal? Well I guess there's no need to think so hard about it.

Lots of wordplay in this series, I better pay more attention.
It's just funny how the character names are literally their personalities + the spell names are straight up what it does.
Totally missed simple japanese wordplays like Ame = Rain/Candy.
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a little bit of information that was cut in this episode

@ubshii oh interesting! thanks for this, how could they cut that out lol
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The enchanter is using the drugged candy to use the Dogs and the Werewolf to attack our gril and her familiars
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Wow, that was interesting. When I heard the name "Wolf" and then saw Keigo, I immediately thought his hair looked fairly wolfish and that he might be Wolf, but then the episode made me forget about it by the time of the reveal. I never expected him to be a werewolf that transforms into a completely different human
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Starting this series I was hoping for easy going goofing around and now with this forced “serious” plot arc I really considering dropping this title. Please, someone tell me how much of this warlock bullshit would there be?
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Here we go, the serious part.
Crazy plot twist we got another Diavolo Doppio here lol
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The prophecy is slowing coming to light, and Moi has to be extra careful for Nico meeting anyone that's suspicious...and there Nemu is literally waiting for them.

On the other hand, Kanshi knowing the gangster of Muto having these "drops" while beating up Keigo for his sneakers, these "Dogs" are the rampage that Kanshi heard from Moi. And though Nico has no knowledge of this, Nemu certainly has through her Alert of warlocks targeting her as the rare Witch of Thousands. Even Wolf knowing Kanshi being the "dogs and raindrops" calamity to face against him, Nico has basically drawn the idea that Mico has been too overprotective enough from her mother, that people like Moi have to protect her.

The minion Dogs serving under Wolf getting interrogated by Moi through Keigo, thanks to his skating and the family accident that incurred from it, the loser hipster finally comes out of his comfort zone and regards both him and Nico his friends alright. Also, Nemu's image as a cat, while she falls to their trap, at least Moi, Nico and Kanshi got the gist of what they're plotting and attempt to circumvent it, which time differential has shifted early in the night.

However, Keigo getting brainwashed by the witch and sucking Moi into his plan as Wolf, that's quite the plot twist...
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Starting this series I was hoping for easy going goofing around and now with this forced “serious” plot arc I really considering dropping this title. Please, someone tell me how much of this warlock bullshit would there be?
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The stakes will go back down for a while after episode 12.
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Didn't see that coming with the wolf kid.
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Finally some serious plot drama/action are starting to occur with the warlock making a move on Nico, and Nemu being captured during her scouting attempt. Can't believe they revealed Keigo as the wolf guy but I guess his reasons are so he can go back to figure skating. Moi better teach this man a lesson and bring him back.
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Wow, Keigo, the friend is the real enemy!!! a wolfman!!!
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Cool to see Nemu actually properly introduce herself to everyone, but damn that Keigo betrayal did not expect him to actually be the wolf guy. Is he seriously doing this for his skating injury.
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