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Nov 3, 6:41 AM

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Freya's gonna do ANYTHING for Belle, and that is super apparent more than ever now.

Clearly something to do with what Hermes gave Hestia made her not forget her past memories, but time will have to tell.


Nov 3, 7:43 AM
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so you don't like main character breaking mentally and then redeeming ? I mean compare it to season 2 and 3, which were the actual shots. My opinion, this episode was one of the better ones in the series throughout all seasons.
@Aruhaya Oh I enjoyed the episode very much and I think the season is going to turn out great!

I just made an assumption thinking it was going to go one way based on what was said in the initial conversation with Hestia, Hermes and Freya about the 6 months, and then Freya totally blew up my assumption lol
Nov 3, 8:23 AM
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Well, I can honestly say a mass brainwashing wasn't something I was expecting after last week. The anime has had darker moments every now and then but this might actually take the top spot... Pretty bad time to be Bell but I'm definitely curious how the season is going to progress. Ever new season has been the better than the previous, I hope they continue that trend.

Yeah, no season 4 was top of the top do i doubt s5 will be better, five episodes in and its mid af.
@Amanakara Agree, it's gonna be hard to top season 4, but if they somehow manage to do it, I'll be pretty impressed and honestly happy, it's very cool whenever an anime manages to reach new hights. In any case only time will tell, so let's just enjoy the ride.
Nov 3, 12:21 PM
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Repeated lesson. NEVER TRUST FREYA
Nov 3, 1:58 PM

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Freya is a pestilence.

Poor Bell. I wonder if Hestia was able to give the paper to Hermes.
Nov 3, 2:14 PM
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*diabolically alters the memories of everyone, effectively rewriting the very meaning of private property to get what she wants*

Me: How dare she. She is evil, and I hate her.

JC Staff: Here is a sexy outro of her.

Me: who am i kidding i love her so much
Nov 3, 2:20 PM
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There's like no (even remotely) reasonable reason for which Freya would be so obsessed with Bell, right? Like what is the justification for this absurdly crazy mental breakdown of hers?
Nov 3, 9:16 PM
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Damn Freya unleashed
Nov 4, 12:27 AM
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SHITS ABOUT TO GO CRAZYYY
Nov 4, 3:52 PM

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There's like no (even remotely) reasonable reason for which Freya would be so obsessed with Bell, right? Like what is the justification for this absurdly crazy mental breakdown of hers?
@Jixxor Think Freya has mentioned its something to do with liking Bell's personality rather than appearance.
Nov 5, 12:11 AM

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Freya has done some wild things, but this time she really went all out. She knows that what she’s about to do is beyond what a goddess should, but the fact that Bell won’t fall for her is something her pride just can’t accept. Truly the goddess of love.

Seeing Bell crying on his knees was painful. He must feel like he’s in the worst nightmare he could imagine.
Nov 6, 3:18 AM
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What... so now they altered everyone's memory to make them think that Bell has been in Freya's familia since the beginning... it hurts for him :/
Nov 6, 7:54 AM

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this is now how i thought this show would go :D whats in hermes' paper slip? how in the hell will they escape this
(posting this late because mal was acting up yesterday)
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Nov 6, 12:22 PM
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What puzzled me was why Freya didn't simply brainwash Bell with the rest of the city.
Nov 6, 12:28 PM
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Well that was one messed up ending.
Freya is obsessive that much was clear from the start but this just seems like some sick form of torture.
I am wondering what will happen next now, because this type of setting isn't really my thing (The everyone forgot or it never happened kind of setting) it's scary as hell.
@Aversa Yeah, i hate this trope too. I'm going to stop watching until the arc is over.
Nov 6, 8:33 PM

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This season is finally starting to pick up. Bell has been acting like a gay boy in a brothal up till now, and it was starting to get on my nerves.
Nov 7, 5:52 PM
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what an ep, really good twist
Jo // North


Nov 7, 6:53 PM

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What puzzled me was why Freya didn't simply brainwash Bell with the rest of the city.
@bakuretsu_lala Bell is immune to Freya's charms so she decided to charm the entire city instead.
Nov 7, 7:52 PM

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Mass brainwashing? Nah, man. Why using the narrative element I hate the most in stories? Seriously, what a pain.

And it seems Freya is just as crazy as she's hot. Practically a perfect 50:50, I would say. Still not sure whether I should find her character progression shitty or understandable tho. After all, she's acting very goddess-like right now.

P.S.: So... why brutally beat up the Hestia Familia members if you were gonna brainwash the whole damn city anyways?
Nov 8, 12:59 AM
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I know it was going to be a double whammy but I'll admit I thought it was more convoluted than it was. So apologies if I confused anyone further and over complicated things a bit.
In the end their version of it seems more dumbed down of what I was expecting them to do although the essence is the same. I expected there to in fact be 3 people/personalities and although there kind of were, she calls it role play meaning it just goes back to everyone's original theory of "Syr = Freya" being correct after all like I said, the "double whammy" (You were actually right but we tried to make you think you were wrong in some way so we could surprise you with what you actually already predicted since season 1.)
So rather than Syr being something she *literally* took away from Horn and Horn being a name which belonged to herself which she literally gave to her. Which is kind of the fucked shit what I'd expect a goddess to do, literally take a part of her personality in exchange for a part of her own personality as a goddess. It seems they took the more simplistic route and made it all "figurative" and not literal. In essence the same thing is still happening but more in a symbolical way than a literal one which means it's "not as bad" but it also means we kind of had the truth all along when we thought "Syr = Freya" they just kind of tried to throw you off a little. Still insane, how Hestia never even once ran into Syr, though of course that only confirmed she was Freya even back in the early seasons.
Also Haruhime could have at least like used enhancing magic there, but I guess the whole family just getting stomped. Poor Welf damn, spear was already just through him. ALSO bruh Ryu barely recovered only to get stomped again. Never cheered for Hestia so hard in my life, roast that bitch tell her what's up lol. Hermes such a G. Also he says only Hestia can resist but, Bell should totally be able to as well. Anyway poor Bell going through it. DON'T LET THEM GASLIGHT YOU BELL! (I really don't like these kind of mind control plots...)
Nov 8, 4:22 PM

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Freya desperate as fuck. Fucking slut xD
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Nov 13, 9:36 PM
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I get that several gods have "innate" characteristics that somehow don't count as using their powers because plot bullshit, but this is ridiculous. When you build a fantasy world with rules, you (the author) have to obey them or you hurt your story. It was bad enough that certain gods clearly had powers and others did not, but at least up to now the powers were minor and mostly for flavor, without having major impacts on the story. This is another thing altogether. Mind controlling an entire city, including even the gods, is not some minor quirk to add flavor, it's just blatant disregard for the rules of this story and then claiming it's OK because you gave it a different name.

Not cool.
Nov 16, 12:02 AM

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Freya and Horne's relationship being two different people of similarities in features definitely was a shock moment trying to know who is which, but Freya's story role playing as Syr, it sets the whole picture into a tier mood.

The Syr/Freya that Bell turned down, it's clear that Bell has always seen Ais as his one and only love interest, and that has never swayed for time millennia. But the overall situation has the Hestia Familia now more focused on linking the small details, and with Freya initiating first blood, the Familia forces their way through, and it's so much for the Goddess of Love trying to win people over by hook or by crook. It's a good thing that Hermes cleared up the situation somewhat, especially at least for the half-year that Bell has been with the Hestia Familia before a conversion can be done, but having Bell has her Ord is a pressing situation for all involved...the betrayal of her own Goddess name to have Orario submit in reverence to her.

The new environment for Bell in the Freya Familia and in the altered Lower World where he's the only clear-headed one not in submission to Freya's claims, Bell is still the Rabbit's Foot alright, but he's been forgotten...it's a sick joke of a nightmare wonderland.
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Can't lie I found this funny asf.

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