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Oct 31, 3:07 PM

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Wow Freya is such a bitch, I hope she gets sent back to heaven one way or another. lol
Oct 31, 3:37 PM

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It's very difficult not to hate Freya in this episode... XD
P.S. Stop hurting poor Ryuu (aka best girl) for gods' sake!
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Oct 31, 3:52 PM

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This took the dumbest turn possible.
Oct 31, 3:59 PM

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tough fucking times for Bel, but it feels so cheap the way everything went down.


“You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!”
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Oct 31, 4:04 PM

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freya commands you lol lelouch of code geass style
Oct 31, 4:11 PM
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Bro, this is literaly "gaslight, gatekee, girlboss the Familia"
Oct 31, 4:47 PM
Ero Ojisan

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Freya has finally pulled out the big guns and decides to take Bell by force, but she went a step further by rewriting everyone in Orario's memories to accept that Bell is a member of the Freya familia. This doesn't sound like a good idea on Ferya's part as Bell will never accept the altered reality of being in Freya's familia without mind control which doesn't affect him. Hestia who is also not affected by Freya's charm is given too much time to come up with a counterattack even though right now she is powerless to do nothing with the Freya familia watching Hestia's moves. At least Ryuu was able to escape. I guess this was Freya's way of mentally breaking Bell by taking everything that was important to him. It's crazy that only half a year has gone by in the story and we are five seasons in the anime covering the 16th volume. The story is moving way too slow.

Bell is really living his own personal nightmare.

Happy Halloween!!!
Oct 31, 5:24 PM

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So Freya basically pulled an Eida? Man I didn't see that coming, I really can't stand the Freya Familia, they all need a good beating, especially the elf guy, I can't stand him!
Oct 31, 5:28 PM
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Cool! Freya really doing it. It's getting more interest for what Bell will do and how other faction will do.
Oct 31, 6:09 PM
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Ugh. This is gonna be a boring/annoying arc. I'll just wait for the finale and hope this insufferable familia is wiped out with extreme prejudice.
Oct 31, 6:47 PM
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Freya is basically the same as Makima except from years prior lol
Oct 31, 7:00 PM

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OMG Freya is so in love she "killed" Syr, hosed Hestia Familia and is now mega city wide gaslighting Bell? Geez I feel for the guy. Officially now hate Freya.

Oct 31, 7:16 PM
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Just Danmachi innit
Oct 31, 8:13 PM
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Wow, my poor man Bell cant have more than 5 minutes without the break .... Hope that wont end by Freya losing all power and Bell "accepting" her to harem. Right? Right? I want Ryuu sending her ass stright to heaven. And Hermes is so big MVP. Love his love for Bell.


@Ragon_Qc
DAYUM Good i didn't drink/eat anything cos it would end on monitor. 🤣That comment is so fitting !
Oct 31, 8:47 PM
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I'm genuinely shocked Hestia chose the responsible path and actually chose to protect the rest of the familia. I shouldn't be, but sadly I am.

given Bell's naivete I'm worried about how he'll act while Freya's still controlling people in this way. I'll let his initial response go as a shock response, but he's also generally immature and frantic, so I'm worried he'll just keep acting out to his own detriment. only time will tell tho
Oct 31, 8:59 PM

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Freya is a lot stronger than I expected. I was a bit confused when only hestia could resist the charm. Love memory rewrite arcs. 5/5 and peak
Oct 31, 10:18 PM

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freya is actually such a cool character
Oct 31, 11:10 PM

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So, Freya, dominated Orario for the sake of her love for Bell. lol




It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
Oct 31, 11:58 PM
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didn't expect Freya to do all of these, but I like it😳
Nov 1, 1:20 AM
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alphazero4um said:
Freya is going to pay for what she has done. Fate or Life is not gonna let her have her way. Rejection sucks at any age. However, it’s not an excuse to cause trouble such as this. Like goodness gracious. Freya already turned foul the moment she decided to do this. At this moment she is no goddess of love. But a goddess of force.

She’s a god so human ethics and morals don’t apply to her or any god in the Danmachi world she can do whatever she wants along with destroying the world thankfully her powers are sealed due to her contract to descend from the heavens and live in the mortal realm and you’d be surprised to know that this representation of hers is lore accurate in the Norse mythology.
Nov 1, 1:46 AM
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Oh my god, what a stressful episode thid was.

Freya is INSANE!! She is fcking NUTS!!
I wasn't expecting her to brainwashing the whole Orario.
The gaslighting arc begin now, i see.

Hestia has to act like she was brainwashed too, that must be hurt Bell so much.
Nov 1, 2:12 AM
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Freya is OBSESSED. She will do absolutely anything to get Bell Cranell into her control. This is the classic Yandere trope in action.
Nov 1, 2:56 AM
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Brainwashing in anime is the biggest bs ever, i hate it.
Nov 1, 2:59 AM
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erpege said:
Well, I can honestly say a mass brainwashing wasn't something I was expecting after last week. The anime has had darker moments every now and then but this might actually take the top spot... Pretty bad time to be Bell but I'm definitely curious how the season is going to progress. Ever new season has been the better than the previous, I hope they continue that trend.

Yeah, no season 4 was top of the top do i doubt s5 will be better, five episodes in and its mid af.
Nov 1, 4:00 AM
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great season tbh, but i kinda start to hate Freya, tho i hope we can see Hestia's power this season i don't think anyone would dare to face Freya familia except her i have high hopes Hestia
Nov 1, 4:01 AM
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I was sick of the OP Freya familia where no one can beat them, but now Freya can alter the minds of a city? I hope they get this arc over with quickly and move on.
@nhkam yeah this is ridiculous, but i trust Hestia she must has same kind of power
Nov 1, 4:08 AM
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Bell's gonna have a generational crashout because of this.... or at least he should, I feel like most would in this context.
Nov 1, 6:38 AM

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So this is going to sound super negative despite me for the most part enjoying this series, but when it comes to shows like this that have strong game elements I usually get hung up on that stuff because it's an interesting draw for me. Making levels, power, skills feel genuine, interesting and just cool matter. And a reason I've been mixed about this show recently is basically, how can Bell still just kinda suck? We're on season 5 now and he is just weak compared to every new person who they just add to the show. He has moments against some monsters and you think, oh ok, now we're going to get into a story we're he's crazy strong, but nope.

Five seasons in and he still just tries to hit people with a dagger, but gets blocked, shots a generic fireball and occasionally uses his deus ex machina hero skill that just makes his generic fireball and more powerful generic fireball. I think this episode was a tipping point for me. And the worst part is that this season premise is genuinely interesting, but just watching Bell and the rest of his familia get one shot is just a huge "come on" moment. I get that this isn't supposed to be a typical OP main protagonist anime, but like, can we at least make him feel good?
Nov 1, 7:49 AM

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this ep clears the confusion in syr, horn and freya and dammm, freya really did brainwashed the whole orario for bell, next level simp. (i can fix her tho)
Nov 1, 8:39 AM
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FREEEEEYYYAAAAA ANJGGGGG DASAR LONTTTTTTTTEEEEEE
@ryou_ofc Sabar bang HAHAHAHA
Nov 1, 8:41 AM
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"If I can't charm him then I shall gaslighting the heck outta him,"
"and brainwash the entire city,"
"..also blackmail Hestia in the process."
Freya (Syr)
Nov 1, 11:39 AM

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damn hestia familia got PACKED UP brutally!!! it was legit chilling and sad to watch.

peak gaslighting incoming?! need a wife as obsessed as freya tbh. let oomori cook!
cold tbf
she really meant by force. top yandere fr
Nov 1, 12:28 PM

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Alright this is getting crazy! Was not expecting this show to get this interesting.

Im confused though, did Syr ever exist? Was it always just Freya in disguise? Then who was Syr talking to when she met Freya?

Do you think Freya knows Bell is aiming for Wallenstein? If so, rip her I guess. Because even if he joins Freyas family, he is not going to love her as long as Wallenstein is around..

Hestias family getting roughed up like this was pretty unnecessary if she was just going to mindcontrol everyone anyway.

Cant be mad at Freyas with that ED though~
Comander-07Nov 1, 12:32 PM
"This emotion is mine alone.
It is for Madoka alone." - Homura
or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica.
Nov 1, 12:46 PM
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Freya is DOWN BAD for Bell. Wonder who wins in a no holds barred contest: Freya, Sirius Romanée-Conti, Yuno from Mirai Nikki or Nina Einstein lol
Nov 1, 2:01 PM
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Five episodes of Bell being a complete wimp. This is getting tiresome.
Nov 1, 4:05 PM
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WOW. What a twist of fate. Freya is THAT desperate. And, after five seasons it's only been six months since Bell's conversion. That puts things in perspective. This situation will prove to be a daunting task for Bell, and his group to handle...his original group anyway.
Nov 1, 6:43 PM

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Now it's when starts becoming interesting 🧐
Nov 1, 7:02 PM
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Reply to vault-dweller
So this is going to sound super negative despite me for the most part enjoying this series, but when it comes to shows like this that have strong game elements I usually get hung up on that stuff because it's an interesting draw for me. Making levels, power, skills feel genuine, interesting and just cool matter. And a reason I've been mixed about this show recently is basically, how can Bell still just kinda suck? We're on season 5 now and he is just weak compared to every new person who they just add to the show. He has moments against some monsters and you think, oh ok, now we're going to get into a story we're he's crazy strong, but nope.

Five seasons in and he still just tries to hit people with a dagger, but gets blocked, shots a generic fireball and occasionally uses his deus ex machina hero skill that just makes his generic fireball and more powerful generic fireball. I think this episode was a tipping point for me. And the worst part is that this season premise is genuinely interesting, but just watching Bell and the rest of his familia get one shot is just a huge "come on" moment. I get that this isn't supposed to be a typical OP main protagonist anime, but like, can we at least make him feel good?
@vault-dweller Most animes that have game elements suck at using them and they dont even matter because the main character is usually Jesus 2.0, shows that properly use those elements are few. That said, Danmachi doesn't really have game elements. Levels, stats and skills work too different from how games work, the anime just never bothered explaining it properly.

In Danmachi levels don't go high like normal rpg, the highest is Level 7 so far but this also means that even a single level is a huge difference for adventurers. Bell started as an underdog at the lowest of the low, Level 1, so basically he has been having to fight stronger opponents most of the time. This right now is no different, he at Level 4 is vastly overpowered by the Freya elites which are Level 5 to Level 7. Freya Familia is literally the strongest faction in the city (and the world), no shit the guy can't win against them yet. And the rest of his familia are Level 2, so they are way weaker than him. And the growth rate in Danmachi works slowly, which is more realistic for better or worse, as it takes years to Level Up (Bell is the exception due to his growth skill).

This is an underdog anime, where the main character works his way up. And not a power fantasy like Solo Leveling, so the MC getting his ass kicked against stronger opponents is to be expected. And this is something I really like about this series, I'm sick of power fantasies and how boring they get. That said, Bell is finally reaching the top of Orario so it's less likely he will get his ass kicked... After this arc, that is.
Nov 1, 9:24 PM

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SHIT WENT DOWN HARD AS FUCK
This Freya bitch must be the biggest yandere of all time lmao
Poor Hestia 😭 she suffers a lot because a Goddess cannot be with a mortal, and out of nowhere comes Freya and shits on all that
Damn, 5 seasons and only half a year has passed? lol
Sorry if my english is bad (っ˘▽˘)っ~~~
Btw, cry about it.

Nov 1, 11:34 PM
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So Freya's plan is to gaslight Bell into loving her?
Nov 2, 12:56 AM

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So that's the deal with Syr, she's actually Freya's persona oof.

Gotta see how this plays out and how everyone will get out of that wacky situation.

Never ending plan to watch list...

Nov 2, 1:17 AM
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the way the plot is told is quite dumb tbh, why they reveal of hestia resistance and that she's actually immune to it rather than having the suspense element. although it's obvious that it won't stay that way forever but it's still better than nothing. coming from anime pov only so was it any different from lns? also, did they have any particular reason for them making it like this? i don't mind any spoiler and I really hope i won't have to drop this series
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the way the plot is told is quite dumb tbh, why they reveal of hestia resistance and that she's actually immune to it rather than having the suspense element. although it's obvious that it won't stay that way forever but it's still better than nothing. coming from anime pov only so was it any different from lns? also, did they have any particular reason for them making it like this? i don't mind any spoiler and I really hope i won't have to drop this series
@akmnorman Hertia is a Virgin Goddess, She is immune to the Freya charms
Nov 2, 5:30 AM

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So the explanation for that scene between Syr and Freya was, that Freya wanted to "roleplay" with Horn? That's such bullshit... so both people in that scene knew it was fake, but it was shown to the viewer as if it wasn't. So it literally was just there to confuse the viewer, there the characters had no need for that after all.

I also hate how different the powers of gods are in this show. Some goddesses like Hestia are completely useless while someone like Freya can even alter the memories of all the other gods, wtf?
Nov 2, 6:19 AM
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This is so fucking evil.
Nov 2, 6:48 AM
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I liked the episode but I would have preferred it to delve deeper into some of the characters
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Nov 2, 1:25 PM
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This episode really made me hate Freya with all my heart.
Nov 2, 2:55 PM
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@ss1shadow
so you don't like main character breaking mentally and then redeeming ? I mean compare it to season 2 and 3, which were the actual shots. My opinion, this episode was one of the better ones in the series throughout all seasons.
Nov 2, 7:49 PM
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When the goddess of love just doesn't get her way with her loved one shit truly hits the fan and she employs her yandere side to the maximum~
Nov 3, 1:27 AM
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The suffering never ends for bell and people around him regardless of which season.

For love freya became public enemy no.1. I still dont get how the powerscaling work since Freyas power even affected gods and her taking this drastic path wont have consequences with the higher powers above? Maybe we will see in the future episodes.

All the hestias familia getting brutally beaten up was painful especially haruhime, ryu and lily. I hope we get payback on those freya familia.

Hermes did some quick thinking and created some backups. good on him

Poor bell the only one who cant get brainwashed but getting forgotten by the ones who cant. Its a curse and a blessing.

Worst part was hestia pretending to not recognize him, that broke him down so badly knowing shes one of the most important person in his life and hestia hurting too she cant do anything. *sigh*
i guess we carry on with the anguish for a while now
Dont know if Ais was affected but i guess for now Hestia, Ryu and andromeda are the only ones left who can do something.
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