Have the 20s already created things that you would call iconic (pop culture) symbols of the decade?

Unfortunately the biggest impact on pop culture is probably TikTok...

@JaniSIr Didn't TikTok become popular back in the 10s?

@RobertBobert According to Wikipedia it was released in 2016, but if Google trends is worthwhile to go by, it got very popular around 2020, probably strongly influenced by COVID and everyone doom scrolling.

@JaniSIr So, Tiktok can fully be called one of the symbols of the 20s so far?

@RobertBobert I guess? It's kind of weird to group together random things based on nothing but release date though.
There have been some good art pieces released, but all of those can just be a micro trend on Tiktok...
The short form content format has more of an impact than the actual content ever could have.

ChatGPT is the most iconic thing of this decade.

@JaniSIr I've heard that the popularity of TikTok, Twitter and related platforms has made it much harder for people to consume heavy and large content, by the way. Even 10 years ago, the idea of ​​a video retelling service would have seemed ridiculous to me.

@Zettaiken Is it just me, or did the 20s become a kind of revival of interest in the Middle Ages and conventionally realistic fantasy?

But it's interesting that the '20s seem to be a time that paid homage to many old but underappreciated trends like game adaptations, forgotten cult video games, or abandoned films like Dune.

@Astrollyth Interesting idea, could you expand on it?

iconic movies to be remembered worldwide (i.e. American movies only :(((() is going to be the Dune series
idk about rap or pop but in drums, this decade already kind of belongs to Chase and Status

Idk about America or the rest of the world but here 2020s so far were the decade when young guys stopped wearing waist packs (I think thats how you call that in English) and started wearing those small square crossbody bags (once again idk how it is called in English). I never got into either though. 70% of women my age here dress the same, its the "arthoe" clothing style (characterized by baggy pants), its not that its bad, its just really funny to see how common it is. Also the shoes people wear changed.

I dont think its going to be a very "iconic" decade, we gonna have to do a lot of work to try and not nuke each other

@Commit_Crime This is the first time I’ve heard this word, but judging by Google images, “arthoe” is something like a new wave of hipsters with another throwback to the fashion of the 70s and an ostentatious love for arthouse and culture is not for everyone.

@Astrollyth That is, in the 20s, social networks actually replaced the once real social life with its clubs, discos, popular public places, etc.?

@Zarutaku
fucked up but true. I noticed that young kids cant fucking Google anymore, they give their question to ChatGPT which throws at them a 100 word paragraph which could be summarized in three words.
Back in my days we googled everything ourselves and didnt complain!!!!! It was honest work!!!!

@RobertBobert

Yeah, spot on, this is the 2010s hipster except female with a canvas reusable bag instead of "whiskey??? at the barber???"


Luckily the "arthoe" style is not limited to clothing and this one is something that a lot of males my age do as well.
Self improvement books recommended from social media, absolute staple of the decade, truly an amazing trend. For women; make sure to post a picture on Instagram so everyone knows you are not like the others. For men; make sure to NOT post a picture but brag about the concepts (dont read it, just watch a video) to everyone around. Its overall a big upgrade from inspirational quotes on Facebook.

@Commit_Crime Sounds like the stereotypical life of a Western intellectual from the second half of the 20th century. Missing the old-fashioned glasses and 50's hairstyle. Or was it intended that way?

Is Instagram becoming the center of modern pop culture again? Sometimes I feel like a lot of things in the modern world exist just so you can take a picture and post them on Instagram, lmao.

@RobertBobert
Yeah, Instagram is really big here, not just for young people. I deleted it cause I was getting spammed with bullshit every two minutes but ended up reinstalling it after a couple months because I was missing important messages. I wish all my contacts were on Telegram but that tends to be popular mostly with people who have family/come from further east.

@Commit_Crime Some people have told me before that Instagram has now almost taken over most of Facebook's "modern" audience.

elden ring, skibidi toilet, AI, maybe boba tea

@Dumb What is a “skibidi toilet” anyway?! I hear about this all the time, the store next door even had a gacha with "skibidi toilet" keychains. But I've never encountered this.

@Commit_Crime I once tried to use Instagram myself, but in the end it all ended with a couple of depressing photos of city places and short dialogues with one of my friends, lmao.

@Dumb What is a “skibidi toilet” anyway?! I hear about this all the time, the store next door even had a gacha with "skibidi toilet" keychains. But I've never encountered this.

@Commit_Crime I once tried to use Instagram myself, but in the end it all ended with a couple of depressing photos of city places and short dialogues with one of my friends, lmao.

@Dumb What is a “skibidi toilet” anyway?! I hear about this all the time, the store next door even had a gacha with "skibidi toilet" keychains. But I've never encountered this.

@Commit_Crime I once tried to use Instagram myself, but in the end it all ended with a couple of depressing photos of city places and short dialogues with one of my friends, lmao.

@RobertBobert
You are better off, its not worth it if the people you want to talk to have different apps.
And for anonymous fun, all the mainstream social media are kind of shit. I really like these forums for that, (almost) everyone here is so nice compared to the rest of the internet

In my age range yes (18 and younger), although I guess that is a pretty narrow gap. I guess it would be more appropriate to blanket it under the "iPad kid" phenomenon I mentioned as a bigger part of the 2020's, considering Toy Story 5 is pitched to be about that.

@Dumb Have the sufficient development of modern tablets really influenced children’s digital addiction so much? It seemed like they used to say the same thing about TV or video games.

@Commit_Crime Well, it doesn't make much sense for me to use Instagram. Unless, once every 100 years, look at photos of your favorite musicians and read idiotic comments from random people about them, lmao.

@JaniSIr @Dumb And this has become a cult global trend that people talk about everywhere? Just 10-15 years ago this would have been just another “weird trend” for chronic imageboard visitors.

@RobertBobert It's more about the worsening of kid's attention spans and social skills due to short-form video content like Tiktok, Instagram Reels, Youtube Shorts (notice how it's expanding to more and more platforms) rather than the advancements of ipads themselves. But "Ipad Kid" is just the term I mainly see used to talk about those affected by it.

I can admit that maybe it is the same thing that used to be said, but this is criticizing a certain subculture of digital entertainment that is predatory for instant dopamine to younger kids rather than digital entertainment as a whole.

@Dumb How was the obsession with social networks, primitive games and useless photos once criticized through criticism of the obsession with smartphones in general? What were TVs or computers like back in the day?

@JaniSIr And do kids really like this?

We're talking about the 20's and not the past. All I was mentioning was that today it's been very noticeable there's predatory entertainment out there labeled "brain rot" like JaniSIr explained and I mentioned earlier, the kids who consume it and are negatively affected by it are labeled "Ipad Kids" and one of the specific examples of that brain rot is "Skibidi Toilet" which in particular grew so large that there's merchandise as you've seen. Nothing else to waste time discussing.

@Dumb I just want to draw a parallel with older things to better understand the things you are talking about. But if you think it's excessive, then no problem.

@Dumb How was the obsession with social networks, primitive games and useless photos once criticized through criticism of the obsession with smartphones in general? What were TVs or computers like back in the day?

@JaniSIr And do kids really like this?

@RobertBobert My bad, I guess I did come off a bit rude I'm sorry :P. I just wanted to give an answer and leave, I'm really just not in the mood for a debate or conversation but I guess that it was what this forum is for.

But yeah older stuff is out of my age range to be knowledgable of so I can't really go in-depth about it like I could for modern topics.

@Dumb No problem, it's just that your description reminded me of the times when the TV was called the most popular babysitter, or when the computer was blamed for any criticized social changes among young people.

@JaniSIr That is, if before memes were a special culture, then in the 20s memes became the very essence of popular culture?

@RobertBobert You could make the argument that memes are mainstream at this point.
People also made the argument that calling it "brain rot" is part of the cycle of hating the next generation that has been going on since ancient Greece.
But what is concerning here, is how much algorithms have been optimized for maximum screen time, even if it's detrimental to the users.

ChatGPT is the most iconic thing of this decade.

Haven't played that much of video games and followed the filming industry to know as much as I know about anime, but I don't think it is the 20s idea of bringing back such interest, this interest is still happening, in the idk 60-90s there were old movies like Spartakus, 300 spartan, Excalibur, Thibaud ou le croisade and perhaps many more stuff which I don't know as I ain't a fan of old stuff, than we have such movies and tv series as Gladiator, Spartacus series, Knighthood series, The last kingdom series, Vikings series which have already 2 seasons of a spin-off series [Vikings Valhalla], Northman, Alexander, King Arthur 2004 and 2017, Barbarians series, Kingdom of Heaven, 300 movies, Arn the knight templar, those about to die and many other which I could not heard about, same with video games, Age of empires, civilization series, total war series, mount and blade series, assasin's creed series, ryse son of the rome, preatorians, zeus lord of olimp, ancient wars sparta, the forgotten city, hegemony series, citadelum, apotheon, sword and sandals series, ludus, age of mythology, a plague tale, manor lords, mount and blade series, chivalry series, mordhau, war of the roses, for honor, crusader kings series, europa universalis, nintendo medieval games, the first templar, prince of persia, jeanne d'arc, knights of honor, kingdom come deliverance series, kingmakers, the guild, age of chivalry, hellblade, conquerors blade and so on...

And to be honest interest on Medieval times aswell a relism isn't that new at all, the interest is happening since at the very least XVI-XVIII century due to Baroque style later Romanticism XVIII-XIX which also relates to medieval times, there's also Historicism [All of those revival of Renaissanse, Baroque, Gothic etc.] and Realism happens since XIX century I know that it is about how the painting looks like but this can be later applied for other media such as theatre, movies and than games.

Can't tell about "Realistic Fantasy" as I ain't playing nor watching many stuff of that topic [excluding legends and myths]

@Zettaiken Even if we forget what I said about the "revival of interest", obviously I didn't mean that we are living in the literal original birth of interest in the Middle Ages, lmao. This isn't the 16th or even the 19th century, lmao.

@deg I am afraid that if AI replaces doctors and lawyers, then tomorrow we will find ourselves in one of the classic dystopias about the dangers of high technology.

Which is why I've given you the list of movies and games since 1960s till 2020, if I would have been more interested in the manner most likely I would find even more proving that it is not "revival of interest", cause if there were many board games since 19 centuries up to the 1960s it would bring the whole continuity since 16th century.

@Zettaiken You understand that interest can decrease and increase, and therefore when we talk about a new peak of interest, this does not mean that there have not been films or games on this topic in the last 10-20 years, right? I understand that geeks can be very nerdy about seemingly trivial matters, but I have a feeling that people here often don't understand how this thing called popularity works. For example, we are experiencing a new surge in the popularity of school harems, but this does not mean that before this we have not seen such shows at all for many years. Just look at the 90s. These years were terrible for metal music, but this in no way means that no one was playing or hearing about metal music until the 00s.