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| Quite the eye opening episode, gave us a lot of info on how the process of adapting something to a different medium plays out, Abiko Sensei might be overstepping but it’s understandable that she’d be fed up with the way her story was handled, but at the same time it’s understandable how it turned out that way. I felt especially bad for the scriptwriter GOA, he was even accused of never having read the source material but he’s actually a day 1 reader and tried to make something great and made whatever changes were requested, it’s just with all those middlemen he didn’t make the right changes and was made out to be the villain. Now that’s not to say there aren’t shitty scriptwriters out there, but that’s not the case this time. But all that being said, I’m sure whatever script Abiko comes up with on her own is gonna be something amazing, the OP hints at it as did the very first scene of the first episode, so I’m looking forward to what it looks like, maybe she can dual wield pens like she can toothbrushes lol. And as much of a fan I am of Akane, gonna have to go with Aqua on the plays thing, I even have a friend that’s an actor in plays and it’s a profession I have a lot of respect for, but 99% of the time I’m gonna choose a movie or anime over a play, although I do think plays are cool, I’ve seen some myself, really it’s all a matter of preference. And I’m sure Akane is gonna show Aqua a play and his eyes are going to pop out of his skull, but it’s not gonna convince any of us watching this because it’s still an anime for us lol, but hey a date with Akane is a win no matter what. |
TheColonel76Jul 10, 1:55 PM
| Loved the first season but it's just me or this 2 eps were dragging and kinda boring? |
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Reply to Mrcl1450
Loved the first season but it's just me or this 2 eps were dragging and kinda boring?
| @Mrcl1450 It is but even though I don't like the series much, this arc in particular is still one of the more praised arcs I think among fans of the manga. It is a slow build but obviously still a lot more to go in getting the stage play sorted out and obviously, imagine Doga Kobo has something really special visually with regards to the stage play itself in some episodes so expect more notable stuff to happen beyond these two episodes soon. |
| Well we get a decent episode with more structured depth insight of how storywriting/scripts work for productions. Surprisingly the scenes i was mentioning were skipped in the previous episode were shown in this episode with a rewind (found it a little odd tbh) which were kana and aqua arriving at the studio reperesenting strawberry productions, them meeting melt and introduction of other la lalai members with akane. The spicy stare off between kana and akane as well :3 Taikis actual introduction as well along with his fame. I like melts change of character this time, more humble and dedicated willing to learn the tropes and improving himself.  This shot was cute and hillarious ngl kana getting all angsty over xD Coming to the author, akibo sensei is a cute oddball indeed (the double toothbrush scene was something else) but even though shes successfull with her works shes still inexperienced and glad that sweet todays author is helping her and she understands how the production process can be chaotic especially if the author themselves get involved so it will be a big issue with someone like akibo sensei who lacks the expertise. This eventually came true as she now wants an entire rescript and revision of the play. I actually felt so bad for the scriptwriter who gave his all but i also understand the viewpoint of the author whos more emotionally attached to their works and wants the end product to be as close as to the original to show what they tried to portray. But the management chain and link from the author and producer is so hectic and complicated lot of things get left out causing issues mainly the communication gap. Plus akibo was so adamant about her work that she was willing to pay the contract breach fees as well it does feel childish not knowing the actual real time repurcussions. I felt even further bad for the scriptwriter knowing their position and job is so much vulnerable even after putting so much work. Glad that the producer took care of him and consoled as well. Now since the script is going to be rewritten we have a break, Aqua apparently has less knowledge of theatre and akane wanting to share her passion of it to him takes aqua on a little date to see a play. Lets see how aqua learns from all this. |
| Pretty much lack of communication that causes bad adaptations |
| Ouch... That's how suicides and mass depressions happen. When you give your all, don't sleep properly, all to complete the job you think you did well and then the guy in charge calls you amateur or worse... Mangaka makes sense too. I wouldn't want my creation (often seen as the author's child) to be bastardized. *cough* Disney/Star Wars *cough*. |
Reply to Mrcl1450
Loved the first season but it's just me or this 2 eps were dragging and kinda boring?
| based on the manga, the first 3 episodes should be set-ups. episode 4 is when it gets a lot more interesting |
| Abiko double brushing had me dying just like in the manga. |
| boring episode.. and I don't like theatre for similar reasons as Aqua.. also why Aqua got some strange red hair at the back of his head?! around 3:15 minute when that guy I don't even remember talks to Aqua and Arima? all that was said about differences on original manga/light novel things and theatre play/anime is known to any anime fan so why waste so much screen time for such things? is it to explain the situation to ignorant or stupid people? This makes me feel the manga/anime creator thinks the audience is stupid... and now a date with same reasons... starting to look like educational anime even more than first season... I guess this is what happened with High School DxD Hero.. someone in production from Passione ruined the show.. but also someone wasn't happy with previous TNK studio that made my beloved High School DxD previous ones |
Thyriad-oPPailovJul 10, 3:57 PM
| (づ￣ ³￣)づ ちゅっ ちゅっ キス (´｡✪ω✪｡｀) I hate it when anime/manga that I enjoyed ends, especially when there could be much longer plot and when I love main heroine :P I wish I had magic glasses that let me see real world in anime colors ;) |
| No need to sugarcoat it - it's not very good so far. Pacing is weird. Main characters are missing. Episodes lack impact scenes from season 1. Opening is weak. |
| Oh... this ep was more boring than the previous ep. i should have waited till it finished airing then binge-watched it fr. |
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| good look into how these adaptations work. this season really has a tensed air about it though, i don't remember feeling it as much while reading this arc, even with the mangaka's actions lmao but i'm here for it. |
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| arghhh the way Abiko mad and neglect all people work so far has got me sad.... This is why I love drama; they remind me to keep learn how to communicate nicely with people... And yeah, we are looking forward to seeing Aqua get amazed by the theater. hehe... |
| The whole episode was just a excuse for a AQUANE date lol Okay, the "inside the media industry" part of OnK is nice, i really apreciate this, way better than the original "mushoku weirdo babies" of the premiere. But this episode had a "filler" feeling. |
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Reply to Softhenic03
Did somehow.. someway, someone couldn’t write the script correctly here as well, like whatever the fuck happened with this stage play? I mean these intros and everything should’ve been there in the first episode itself lol. I actually found it weird last episode when there was nothing leading up to these characters rehearsing, of all things, whilst introducing a bunch of characters with colourful fonts.
Anyway, being passionate about your work is one thing, but being so and moreover insulting others when they don’t match your work ethic is straight up stupid. This author is one such person, but hey, since this an anime of course people would accept her demands for a complete redo of the script lol. That in any case whatsoever doesn’t happen with projects in real life. There is a lot of capital invested, a lot of time invested… nobody could just come and ask for a complete makeover of the script when the thing is already underway. Felt for that scriptwriter tbh. Also, this one thing is straight up impossible when we’re talking about things getting produced in japan… see THEIR HISTORIES WITH LIVE ACTION ADAPTATIONS LOL. If the mangaka had so much say, the landscape would be different altogether. But hey again, this one mangaka isn’t normal by any means, so yeah lol… she was even willing to pay xD
Anyway, being passionate about your work is one thing, but being so and moreover insulting others when they don’t match your work ethic is straight up stupid. This author is one such person, but hey, since this an anime of course people would accept her demands for a complete redo of the script lol. That in any case whatsoever doesn’t happen with projects in real life. There is a lot of capital invested, a lot of time invested… nobody could just come and ask for a complete makeover of the script when the thing is already underway. Felt for that scriptwriter tbh. Also, this one thing is straight up impossible when we’re talking about things getting produced in japan… see THEIR HISTORIES WITH LIVE ACTION ADAPTATIONS LOL. If the mangaka had so much say, the landscape would be different altogether. But hey again, this one mangaka isn’t normal by any means, so yeah lol… she was even willing to pay xD
| @Softhenic03 yeah ig thats one of the reasons Yariko sensei keep quiet of the LA adaption of her manga.. |
| What happened to the screenwriter was quite sad. I liked how they adapted the thoughts and decisions of everyone involved in the direction and adaptation of the work. From the first season, they showed us how the staging of this world of show business works, and now they show us the problems or conflicts they face in making adaptations. This not only covers theater but also directly all types of adaptations. It's a bit sad to see that there are many unsung heroes behind the scenes who aren't fully appreciated by us viewers when we enjoy our favorite manga or novel in formats like anime, movies, or even theater. It's somewhat amusing to think of it as a cry for help from all those who work and shed sweat and tears to present a decent adaptation and end up like this. |
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| Based Abiko, hope everyone else learn their lesson |
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| konflik antara penulis asli dan penulis naskah |
My Candies :  |
| I'm with the manga author. Completely changing characters is unacceptable. Don't fucking adapt shit if you can't do it right. |
| Alright, I will be brief. I spoiled myself yesterday and I am really interested in how this story is gonna end, so I will be starting the manga soon or after season 2 ends. Really enjoyed speedrunning the first season, Akane is my favorite heroine. Don't really like the new opening but the new ending is fire. See you at the end of the season. Season 1 OP and ED are top of the line. It's a shame the shows not on crunchyroll. |
| "Manga readers are annoying, all they do is complain or spoil the anime we discuss in an anime forum. They should really do their whining at manga forums." Stolen from Janethan23. Add in visual novel readers too |
| Ok, I understand the episode, I understand what happened, and why it happened, and of course I understand why Abiko is this mad, and I'm kind on her side?, but that doesn't mean I have to like her or anything, she super sucks, a new character just debuted and turned out to be a weird (NOT AT ALL CUTE) angry whiny bitch that clearly doesn't care about anyone but herself and her own shit, "uuuuh she has awkward social probleeems" yeah I don't give a fuck, u can be socially awkward while still being a nice person, fuck her. |
Sorry if my english is bad (っ˘▽˘)っ~~~ Btw, cry about it.  |
| 2 eps in and I am not much invested in this new characters |
| It'd be cool if they went back to the whole thing about Aqua finding the person who killed his mother. Instead of this boring garbage. Very skippable episode. |
| This is what I like about this series, it gives you pretty much an inside view on what's happening behind the Japanese entertainment industry. And on this ocassion, the stuff happening when it comes to adaptation of a manga. Now we get to see why some adaptation are bad. |
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| This mangaka is annoying tbh. Akane :3 |
| “Do what feels right in your heart. You will be criticized either way.” (Eleanor Roosevelt) |
Reply to Hoshi_Iishraq
This episode is full of controversy between the author and the media adaptation team, of course, there will be changes in the script based on the adaptation from manga/novel to match the time frame of the respective media. This is not the first, we have seen this in the Sweet Today drama, they changed the story pacing to just 6 episodes with poor acting from the cast.
I actually feel bad for the scriptwriters, who are doing their best for their respective media and not getting enough credits.
But going so far as to humiliate the scriptwriter in front of the casts and the team is not acceptable.
If you have problems with the work try to solve the problem with the concerned person or team, I mean what's with the attitude of "let me write the entire script" and "I don't need payment. You can leave the scriptwriter's credit and pay him as usual"
Are authors can even say stuff like this? I am confused.
I actually feel bad for the scriptwriters, who are doing their best for their respective media and not getting enough credits.
But going so far as to humiliate the scriptwriter in front of the casts and the team is not acceptable.
If you have problems with the work try to solve the problem with the concerned person or team, I mean what's with the attitude of "let me write the entire script" and "I don't need payment. You can leave the scriptwriter's credit and pay him as usual"
Are authors can even say stuff like this? I am confused.
| I agree. Although the senior mangaka said that Abiko is socially awkward, I think she is actually a bully. I agree that the middle managers were in fault but there is no excuse for her behavior.... but unfortunately there are characters like her in real life. They do not get any empathy due to their arrogance although they are very talented and hard at work. But the producer could have dealt it more professionally..... Abiko just got away by abusing a well mannered man (GOA). . |
| omg .. kurokawa akane is so shiny in this season !! especially with long hair , she is too damn beautiful more than ai !! |
Red said: The scriptwriter should've just contacted and communicated with the author directly instead of going through all of those middlemen. Surprised they hadn't even talked to each other before the process began. I think it was explained that both the scriptwriter and author had packed schedules -- scriptwriter was juggling other shows, while author works alone and releases weekly -- so I infer that they couldn't find a common free time to directly communicate. That said I agree with you, one or both should've found a compromise and matched the other's free time, since they cared so much for the end result. I personally think the onus on this one should've been on sensei, if she could make time to meet her senpai and watch the rehearsal, she could've done that beforehand too with consulting the scriptwriter face-to-face. But that's just my opinion, feel free to rebut or call me trash over it.  |
| This anime started as a mystery/thriller anime with an idol sub-theme. Right now, it's fully a propaganda for the various Japanese multimedia outlets & deep dive on the life of actors with NO attention whatsoever to the original theme. I'm quite disappointed and bored by how things are going. |
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| What an annoying brat, haha. Hate that character type. Hopefully she crumbles under the pressure rewriting the script and comes back crawling on her knees. Else nice episode :) The script writer has a nice office heh. |
| It was OK. Another dialogue heavy episode - its fine to set current arc but at last change scenario. 90% of time we see gray rooms and talking heads. |
| another average episode but feels bad for the scriptwriter man. won't blame the author to get mad either. everything was just very unfortuante for the scriptwriter. i can imagine just how shit he must be feeling after all the efforts he put into the script. sucks big time for him. hope he recovers from this soon. i guess now it is finalized that the whole season is gonna cover the play. and now i just know that the play is gonna kick ass at the end. the author is gonna make sure of it and the actors are all top-notch as we know. this new plot is all good but i hope they don't sidelines the whole aqua findign his father thing etc |
 The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama. Feeling half happy, half sad. Kawaii waifus and precious best girls <3333 |
Ricky16 said: She(Abiko) went from being a gloomy sensei to suddenly being a strict sensei!! in no time and that's Scary! 😨. Akio sensei she definitely crossed the line with that insult. I kinda feel sad for the scriptwriter, he did his best with everything he could've but in the end that's the Reality Author has the authority to revoke the permission ultimately destroying the reputation of everyone involved in the project/work.. Stage industry=Hardship Industry. Akane-Chan in the end 💘 😍 Let's Goo on a date with her.  Looking forward to watching the next episode. Akane is looking really gorgeous with her long hairs this season |
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