Death March kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyousoukyoku Episode 1 Discussion

Shvanell said:
So you want full on spoilers of how and why? Aigh't then. Don't say I didn't warn you. And maybe more people want to hear this to? I'll be the one then.
First for the back drop, which is somehwhat important for the question. This part will be told in later episodes, in this session. (hopefully) But It won't be the FULL truth then, though. Which will be learned MUCH later. But if you wan't to go all in? Let's a go.



That's the base lore, and now for Satou. The short answer?


If you want the long answer? Strap in, because this is a ride.



Hope I explained it well enough, and I might have explained too much. Tough to do something like this. And if you want to know what happens in the late game and if anything come's of this?



Or at least this is the general consensus from all information that we have seen and learned of, some part's may or may not even turn out to be true.

tommy9418 said:
I suggest if you want to watch this to enjoy yourself then come with a mindset that Death March is like Nichijou with an OP MC...

tetragramat said:
So much hate and LN/WN author liked the first episode.

"The anime broadcast will be aired on 1/11!
I had been given the chance to watch the first episode myself, and it exceeded my expectations, by all means please have a look if you could." - source: latest WN chapter

Grey-Zone said:


Keep in mind that the scene where Satou says "Let's ignore everything that doesn't make sense", while reading the log was supposed to be an unexpected, shocking, common-sense breaking scene in this episode and the Japanese actually got to experience it! We westerners, however, got the lazy CR subbers who thought it unimportant, leading to people thinking that there are supposedly "plot holes" where none exist.

This "little mistake" essentially damaged the reputation of this series irreversibly. Well done, CR. /sarc


In coming episodes this will also come back to bite, when things mentioned in the logs are later taken for granted and the western audience will scream "asspull retcon with no foreshadowing!" and the like. Seriously, CR absolutely fucked this up.



On the flip side, the subs at least DID show that the place was called Dragon Valley, so some people might deduce that Lizardmen were not the only species that was obliterated by the meteor showers.





I think because of the incomplete subs, we might experience a case where western people will hate it, but it might still get a 2nd season due to Japanese sales and the western audience will wonder why it sold so well in Japan.

gophercg said:
It feels very dry with just mc pov monologuing & traveling alone, and the long job part didn't help. So he died by karoshi or just in dreamland?
I can relate the the technical/overwork part and fumbling learning a new game, but game part is so common could just speed it up.
Unique game mechanics is worth explaining, except the poorly balanced abilities & leveling to cater beginners is terrible.
Still manages to stuff more cliches in ep1 but could just watch as Smartphone 2.0.
The multi-country currencies is unusual for games. This could be interesting for politics, forex economy etc. And the run scene was bit cool, two things the episode did right.

tetragramat said:


In WN he was traveling alone for week or two until he found civilization and was really happy about being able to talk with someone. I think that time is compressed in few scenes perfectly.
In second episode there will be a lot of talking with people, sightseeing the city and world building.
Why do you think abilities are poorly balanced and leveling so hard?
In theory leveling is easy, you can even level up by reading a books, but people does not have any kind of tutorial or school, so many of them die or stay low level entire life.
Wherre did you find cliches?
I did not watch smartphone, it seemed like shit so I skipped it.

gophercg said:

Thanks I'll watch more episodes for introducing more characters.

No, I mean leveling too easy. Game is poorly balanced because the 3 meteor & radar were abilities the coders added in last minute to cater to beginners in a rush (as presented in anime). If they spent time balancing the meteor power/reward etc, then it could be a reasonable crutch. While coding, he mentioned if a player doesn't use meteor in a level they'd get special rewards, but here he already got a flood of rewards/loots etc.
Level is one thing, but maxing out strength, armor, agility etc to 999 is also a mechanic problem. Normally games balance so the current level/game stage matches with their stats in difficulty. If it's oneshot kill all enemies game becomes boring. So there's usually caps that limit level/abilities at different stages. Abilities/upgrades are spread out to different arenas/bosses. Anyways these are just game mechanics concerning that game, not a complaint of the show itself.

gophercg said:

Thanks I'll watch more episodes for introducing more characters.

No, I mean leveling too easy. Game is poorly balanced because the 3 meteor & radar were abilities the coders added in last minute to cater to beginners in a rush (as presented in anime). If they spent time balancing the meteor power/reward etc, then it could be a reasonable crutch. While coding, he mentioned if a player doesn't use meteor in a level they'd get special rewards, but here he already got a flood of rewards/loots etc.
Level is one thing, but maxing out strength, armor, agility etc to 999 is also a mechanic problem. Normally games balance so the current level/game stage matches with their stats in difficulty. If it's oneshot kill all enemies game becomes boring. So there's usually caps that limit level/abilities at different stages. Abilities/upgrades are spread out to different arenas/bosses. Anyways these are just game mechanics concerning that game, not a complaint of the show itself.

mudtherob said:
The worst part of the episode was his stats. Did he really have to get 999 in ALL stats? Doesn't he know that balanced builds are 99% of the time worst? Does the game REALLY hamstring you into balancing your stats? I'd drop that MMO so fast.

The game has terrible design.

1) Let's spawn new players in the middle of a hell zone. Yeah. Great idea! (I'm sure eventually it'll be explained that he was summoned for whatever reason. Still. What a way to greet a player)
2) Oh. Let's *force* the player to have balanced stats. Wanted to optimize for your mage build? Sorry. You gotta keep it balanced.

BeyondTheStars said:
Why does the mc have to state literally EVERYTHING he does? the exposition in this show is ridiculously bad, it almost feels satirical.

Rc20150990 said:
Been reading the manga since it started but first episode was kinda a let down, still alot of episodes to go but the MC just doesnt seem anything like in the manga

FontSize72LOL said:
I feel like I have to defend the WN at least a little bit in here. It starts off slow, the anime will probably barely reach the point where it gets good story wise, and despite the premise being completely generic there is some substance later on. I think people are suffering from the misconception that this will be another battle harem isekai, This is more of a comfy slice of life adventure than anything else.

Is it great? Not really. Is it bad? Not really. I'd honestly say that WN is good, or in probably better terms, entertaining, and that is good enough for me. I'd have wished that this got at least 24 episodes instead, It would have at least ended on a better note but who knows, this might spike the LN sales enough that we get a season 2 later.

tetragramat said:


I want to see you happily watching anime where is half hour only MC thinking about what is happening in silence. Really, half of the hour of the silence. You would be shitposting even more.

This story is full of analysing what is happening, how things work, what can be done, etc. If you silence MC's thoughts, you will get 60% of the anime silent.

BeyondTheStars said:


I don't mind hearing an mc's thoughts when it's useful in following the story and feels natural in context (or else i would hate hxh, JoJo's and a lot of other series i love). Like you know when it's something that can't be clear for the viewer or something that needs to be emphasized and not for EVERY SINGLE THING the mc does.

Shvanell said:


That's how it goes though. Always have to role the dice when it come's to adaptation's. Due to how season's are within the industry now especially, there's going to be a fairly good chance that the anime is going to end before it even really gets to where Satou's path and story can even start up.

We would have to get up to at least Chapter 6 of the WN and complete it, which would equate up Volume 4 of the LN. Hell, Even slightly extending that to also cover until the end of Chapter 7 of the WN, which in turn would be 5 Full Volume's of the LN. Not possible.

Its both not enough for a 24(ish) episode session, yet also a 12 episode session (even if that extends to 14-15) would face some serious cuts and poor pacing issues for sure.

I could maybe see a 24(at least) session covering up until Chapter 9 of the WN, but that would mean 8 Volumes would have to be adapted. Which would get us right back to square one.

Ah well. I just now and am happy that the LN is selling damn fine over in Japan and this will at least get some people in seeing how good and fun it is. Or at least interested in it. (Now if only YenPress didn't damn it over on Stateside...)

(Or if people can't then they can just read the WN.)
(Seriously people, go do it if you want to have a relaxing and fun time.)
(It's free to read and has day's worth to catch up on. First few chapter's are rough when it come's to lack of editting, but it get's much better as all get out.)

deadman80 said:


I know that it is possible. I can use AegisSub myself, and regularly fix subs for my own archival. I also know that it is not a simple task to make the subs, nor render the subs in this case if using heavily stylized subs.

I can't say for sure since I am not personally familiar with any of the source material, but I'm also thinking on the lines of consistent amount of scrolling text, so it should be doable to fully translate the logs if most episodes have far less than this one.

BTW, looked thru the scroll after the BOOM, and the entire sequence contains only Item drop notices, so they could safely summarized with a TL note. There do seem to be a couple Skill notice popups during the lizardman fight tho, which sound like they are plot-important from what others are saying here, so I'm sad that my kanji skills suck badly enough to not be helpful. :(

jejai said:


I have subbed most of the menu and logs..its my first time typesetting , its .ass file subbed on top of HS subs. But i just dont know where to share it, tried nyaa but failed (tracker error).. let me know if anyone knows a good way to spread it.

jejai said:
I have subbed most of the menu and logs..its my first time typesetting , its .ass file subbed on top of HS subs. But i just dont know where to share it, tried nyaa but failed (tracker error).. let me know if anyone knows a good way to spread it.

Nathan_Cothran said:
So anyone else catch mention of the ex-employee that he's doing all the extra work because of? What you think the chances are the employee didn't quit job but was warped to game as well?

HawkAussie said:
My episode 1 notes

- MC going to a different world without a death but instead by sleeping after a 30-hour shift.
- Maybe just me but the voice sound different from the 18-minute mark.
- Yeah, when you have OP skills, of course, it is going to be tough to hide
- Skills points are broken as I am quite sure you only get 1 extra skill pointer level. Well, that is what usually happens in MMORPG's,
- OP and ED song wasn't really exciting for me.
- Pop-ups need translating and needs to be less frequent as well.
- Back to the transport into a new world, we probably won't see the real world again
- Since when are grenades like meteors. Because I thought they are said a map reveal and three grenades or is it just me.

Overall it was an ok episode for me

Nathan_Cothran said:
What puzzled me the most was when he's running from explosion he goes thru (seems 'saved by') what looked like a magic barrier.. next he's talking about how dangerous the magic is but makes no mention about what shielded him. I don't see why they broke the scene there -why show it at all?