The Magical Revolution of the Reincarnated Princess and the Genius Young Lady
RebelPanda said: This. Ionliosite2 said: Good writing + likeable character + passable art.The last time I saw an isekai + yuri anime it got very harshly received by people, how come that didn't happen to this one? The girls love aspect doesn't have anything to do with it. Trends show that people will rate the genre just as highly as heterosexual romance anime when they're done well. Compared to other websites, MAL users (at least the ones rating the anime) tend to be ok with queers. Putting aside the demographic majority of this website, most of the time, a show is not about the isekai/yuri aspect. This anime has both, which might attract anyone familiar with similar stuff. But that's only going to work for a few early episodes. Seeing stuff like Shokei Shoujo (and even Blue Lock) bashed by inaccurate early reviewers is enough proof that first impression is essential. Tenten Kakumei doesn't try to be edgy, nor tries to be all too serious all the time while having good writing, character, and art. If anyone dismissed any of those, I don't know what to say anymore... |
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Erogamerss said: You do know the meaning of otome, right? This show isn't otome, it's Yuri/Girls Love. Even MAL says so.LilyBlanco said: I mean just like Virgin Road, it's not a male MC wish fulfillment type of isekai, it's just a bait. This show attracts mostly otome lovers, that's why it's not badly received, yet. Well it not really otome bait since it still focus in otome set up latter on as some thing she need to deal ( which i was worng). But more important they dont try to fake MC with a very edgy plot with fully logic explain and make a very edgy MC |
Erogamerss said: Turn into different gender? Uh, No. Famous otome plot? No, where's that coming from. Since the princess already declares that she doesn't want to marry a man, this is clearly not an otome.LilyBlanco said: You do know the meaning of otome, right? This show isn't otome, it's Yuri/Girls Love. Even MAL says so. Well that how MAL said what Otome novel thank to it only came with few number( the most famous are my villaness ) at start . In novel reader Otome type of novel are the novel that have otome set up in it which belive me you have a lot of them that turn into different gender form Sol to fantasy and Yuri. You should know this one are one of two famous otome plot with Yuri between the novel reader, the other novel are must more heavy otome base and 100% will have otome tag. Still this one dont really like that since there arent any otome memory form the MC just have otome game kind of set up so you could thorw the otome tag away form it Also, based on Japan's store, the LN isn't tagged otome. |
LilyBlancoJan 12, 2023 5:31 AM
Erogamerss said: This show isn't otome isekai, how many times I have to say this? There's no prince (man) who is interested in Anis and she's also doesn't care about marrying a man.LilyBlanco said: Turn into different gender? Uh, No. Famous otome plot? No, where's that coming from. Since the princess already declares that she that doesn't want to marry a man, this is clearly not an otome. Also, based on Japan's store, the LN isn't tagged otome. Well that only true Anis when Euphyllia story clearly base on otome and it what make the novel also feel same with otome, Anis even said like that about how her situation right in the first ep. Seccond I like update my comment, the big reason this dont have otome tag because MC Anis dont have otome game memory like in a lot of otome isekai while if you look at nor the novel itself only focus on this. While we have Watashi no Oshi wa Akuyaku Reijou which it 100% girl love and Yuri + Otome ( just read the damn name) which have a lot of same focus on Noble and politic like this one Rae does have one so yes, otome. |
Erogamerss said: What people said doesn't change the fact that this isn't otome. You should learn what the meaning of otome first. Euphy's plot cannot change the genre into an otome.LilyBlanco said: This show isn't otome isekai, how many times I have to say this? There's no prince (man) who is interested in Anis and she's also doesn't care about marrying a man. Rae does have one so yes, otome. You know this not even the main problem of this thread. And seccond it use otome plot and even people said that this sound like a otome novel. I have nothing to say anymore. |
texasfangirl1999 said: There is a lot of homophobia towards BL anime BUT it is hard to draw the line between homophobes and criticism of a genre that is crap 9 times out of 10. Like, people loved Given because it was great boys love. Of course there were some quiet detractors due to the BL.RebelPanda said: Good writing + likeable character + passable art. The girls love aspect doesn't have anything to do with it. Trends show that people will rate the genre just as highly as heterosexual romance anime when they're done well. Compared to other websites, MAL users (at least the ones rating the anime) tend to be ok with queers. Unless said queers are male that is, don't get me started on the homophobes that crawl out of the woodwork anytime a BL or anything slightly suggesting BL elements comes out |
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| Virgin Road was freaking great and one of the standouts from last year, loved the chars and the setting and worldbuilding on it had me hooked, something that sadly most isekai fail really hard at to me. It also had the OP song I spammed the most by a lot, which is a welcome bonus for sure. The hate it gets (at least here anyways, reddit is based for once and has a lot better view on it) is one of the biggest bruh moments I have seen related to anime... not that I tend to agree much with opinions in general anyways, but I felt people really tried too hard to hate it over petty reasons, wish they did this for actual trash. With that out of the way, hey, this show started pretty nice! I knew shit about it until I started it an hour ago, but consider me interested. |
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| Shouki Shoujo's low rating isn't cause of Yuri... It was cause of some character's personality that makes the anime look bad. Such as the MC turning from a Nice Girl into a Psycho Killer. Or the fact that the anime is based around killing Isekai ppls... regardless of whether they're good or bad. And even tho they could find a way to send Isekai ppls back to their world, they choose to just kill them cause it's "less work". (such as the killing of that Mother that was not Summoned, but rather actual Isekai by the Gods and helped everyone, but they decide to end her life and later one of her daughters became one of the "top evil") ___ ___ ___ Meanwhile, this anime, while has Yuri, they don't random killings. (tho there's some Isekai involved, but the anime is tagged as Reincarnation (not sure if the "past life" died naturally or get Truck-kun tho)) The anime's more or less political slice-of-life Shoujo-ai anime. |
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amlg said: Shouki Shoujo's low rating isn't cause of Yuri... It was cause of some character's personality that makes the anime look bad. Such as the MC turning from a Nice Girl into a Psycho Killer. Or the fact that the anime is based around killing Isekai ppls... regardless of whether they're good or bad. And even tho they could find a way to send Isekai ppls back to their world, they choose to just kill them cause it's "less work". (such as the killing of that Mother that was not Summoned, but rather actual Isekai by the Gods and helped everyone, but they decide to end her life and later one of her daughters became one of the "top evil") ___ ___ ___ Meanwhile, this anime, while has Yuri, they don't random killings. (tho there's some Isekai involved, but the anime is tagged as Reincarnation (not sure if the "past life" died naturally or get Truck-kun tho)) The anime's more or less political slice-of-life Shoujo-ai anime. I mean, there's a way to turn the Isekai'd people the to their world, but they don't just go "it's too much work" there is a very good reason, but it is pretty much spoilers from the novel. I can understand that the way the anime presented themselves could also affect the way people see them. |
Marina2 said: It tricked watcher to think that guy was MC and killed him off. It pissed of some people who want a character to self-insert. That's all about it. Being Isekai+yuri has nothing to do with the reception. If the show is good, people will love it. I think the yuri aspect does impact people’s view towards it tho. |
| Too many people simping for waifus, there have been too many self insert male characters lately. We need some male characters that everyone could gravitate to, you know like how people did with Chisato or Bocchi. But wait, could even a great male character even accomplish that 🤔 Mod edit: removed deleted quote |
ZedlinJan 25, 2023 6:33 PM
JagerBomb225 said: Animillion said: Unfortunately, a male character can't because like you said already; male anime viewers tend to be thirsty simps. Just read the comments around the forum. I have already seen people admit that this show isn't particularly special or great, and if it were a male MC or no yuri they would have already dropped it. People will say that yuri/female MCs tend to be better because they have to actually be good to be liked, but that couldn't be any further from the truth. They just benefit from their own form of bias, and it's that yuri/female automatically means good. To be fair, this is more of an issue within the yuri genre fans specifically.Too many people simping for waifus, there have been too many self insert male characters lately. We need some male characters that everyone could gravitate to, you know like how people did with Chisato or Bocchi. But wait, could even a great male character even accomplish that 🤔 A male MC that starts off strong is often shunned and called a "Kirito" or is boring, of which I would agree if it is not handled right and is meant to just be a male power fantasy. However I have dived a bit into this manga, and for some reason I see people call Anis a breath of fresh air, or different from the usual OP male isekai protagonist. She really isn't. Her downfall is not being gifted with magic, yet she has already opened up a path to overcome a lot of this with her foray into magicology, and she is very quickly shown to be a skilled and powerful fighter who does the usual "I'm so silly normally, but I go hard and serious when I fight" personality flip. None of this is bad per say, in my opinion, however she isn't all that different from a lot male isekai protagonist, or just male protagonist in general, and to watch people flip flop on this character archetype depending on the sex or preference of said character is just cringe. Maybe my mind will change later into the series since I haven't gotten too far yet. It certainly hasn't been a bad start, but I am tired of watching people trip over each other in a rush to prop up any yuri/female cast show as peak fiction just because. We watched western entertainment tank because of this kind of behavior, and I'd rather it not start happening here too. Very well written argument. I’ve seen many people say they’d enjoy an anime more if it were all female characters. Quality of the series may not even matter to many of these people as long as the girls are cute, and there seems to be a growing number of these people. I’m not saying all fans are like that, but there is a significant shift towards the preference for female characters, or at least that’s what I’ve noticed. As an example in the niche genre of gender bend anime, people love the idea of a series where a guy transforms into a girl, yet when a girl transforms into a guy, it apparently becomes “boring”. Mod edit: removed deleted quote |
ZedlinJan 25, 2023 6:36 PM
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Fluffygreygrass said: Anisphia has Chisato vibes yeah, she has some Chisato vibes. Super energetic, and some other thing which make Anis a likeable person. :) |
Apolygon2 said: Ionliosite2 said: well idk about this since I haven't seen it, but there are a few reasons for why virgin road failed.The last time I saw an isekai + yuri anime it got very harshly received by people, how come that didn't happen to this one? 1. it killed the male self-insert, which alienated some of the trash isekai lovers. which were a good chunk of the people who gave it a chance. 2. the writing wasn't great. so the people who stuck around for the interesting concept or good production, realized it's only an ok show and nothing ground breaking. 3. the dub sucked dick. love it or hate it, dubs have an affect of the popularity of shows in the west. and that show's dub is really poor. normally people ignore average level writing if the like the concept. but in vigin road it was average-poor in a very boring why. it has way too many info dumps. something like rezero can get away with that, because it's way of being average in writing is having masterpiece level elements, and terrible elements. so show it to the right people and they will hail it as a masterpiece. the writing in virgin road, was not a mixed bag. it was room temperature at best. Re: Zero doesn't really get away with that aspect because it doesn't have to. Its writing is top of the class or whatever the phrase is among isekais. The only thing it's getting away with is having static animation and maybe some other production issues here and there. |
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RioFS said: Apolygon2 said: well idk about this since I haven't seen it, but there are a few reasons for why virgin road failed. 1. it killed the male self-insert, which alienated some of the trash isekai lovers. which were a good chunk of the people who gave it a chance. 2. the writing wasn't great. so the people who stuck around for the interesting concept or good production, realized it's only an ok show and nothing ground breaking. 3. the dub sucked dick. love it or hate it, dubs have an affect of the popularity of shows in the west. and that show's dub is really poor. normally people ignore average level writing if the like the concept. but in vigin road it was average-poor in a very boring why. it has way too many info dumps. something like rezero can get away with that, because it's way of being average in writing is having masterpiece level elements, and terrible elements. so show it to the right people and they will hail it as a masterpiece. the writing in virgin road, was not a mixed bag. it was room temperature at best. Re: Zero doesn't really get away with that aspect because it doesn't have to. Its writing is top of the class or whatever the phrase is among isekais. The only thing it's getting away with is having static animation and maybe some other production issues here and there. again, as I said, show it to the a right person and they will hail it as a masterpiece. you are living proof of that. and no I'm not going to write an entire essay on why the writing isn't perfect, that would take way too long. If I ever did do that, I'll make it into s video and sent it to you. |
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Apolygon2 said: RioFS said: Re: Zero doesn't really get away with that aspect because it doesn't have to. Its writing is top of the class or whatever the phrase is among isekais. The only thing it's getting away with is having static animation and maybe some other production issues here and there. again, as I said, show it to the a right person and they will hail it as a masterpiece. you are living proof of that. and no I'm not going to write an entire essay on why the writing isn't perfect, that would take way too long. If I ever did do that, I'll make it into s video and sent it to you. Stop putting words in my mouth, will ya? I can't remember hailing it as a masterpiece so there goes your argument down the drain. All I said is that Re: Zero's writing is WAYYY above average, the best out of any isekai I have watched(haven't watched Sonny Boy yet though) so far therefore it doesn't need to "get away with anything". Besides even if, hypothetically speaking, it were only average, it already receives more than enough criticism so it's kinda iffy to say it "gets away with" it. |
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| This is very well received. It is currently on 4th on weekly Reddit karma rankin. AniTrendz rankings for MagiRevo so far: 5th to 1st. Anime Corner rankings for MagiRevo so far: 6th to 1st to 2nd. Good yuri story cannot be stopped! |
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Peepsqueeker said: Just wondering is this anime actually good or is it being rated (way) higher because it has 'Yuri'? I don't mind watching Yuri itself but don't want to end up being misled by positive reviews and ratings that simply like the theme(s) and don't take into account the actual story being good or not. This is really good story especially when you compared to isekai stories in general. This is like fresh wind in whole genre. Something different. Actually if you think about villainess genre then this fresh wind to that too. This actually something else what those two genres has used to see. |
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Peepsqueeker said: It's good if you like yuri and fantasy, otherwise just wait and see if its worth watching after the show finishes. Just wondering is this anime actually good or is it being rated (way) higher because it has 'Yuri'? I don't mind watching Yuri itself but don't want to end up being misled by positive reviews and ratings that simply like the theme(s) and don't take into account the actual story being good or not. Because judging from the trailer, the synopsis and the manga only having 256 ratings, I don't see how this got a relatively high rating other than resonating with a group of people that are way more into Yuri than I am. Where I don't mind to see these themes but not going out of my way to look up and watch every Yuri-anime ever created and the other group of people being in Yuri communities, have their profiles filled with Yuri-content and mostly watching Yuri (bait) anime. |
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Peepsqueeker said: I think I can answer that. I'm not a fan of Yuri, not because I dislike Yuri but because there are very few Yuri titles that have picked my interest over the years.Just wondering is this anime actually good or is it being rated (way) higher because it has 'Yuri'? I don't mind watching Yuri itself but don't want to end up being misled by positive reviews and ratings that simply like the theme(s) and don't take into account the actual story being good or not. Because judging from the trailer, the synopsis and the manga only having 256 ratings, I don't see how this got a relatively high rating other than resonating with a group of people that are way more into Yuri than I am. Where I don't mind to see these themes but not going out of my way to look up and watch every Yuri-anime ever created and the other group of people being in Yuri communities, have their profiles filled with Yuri-content and mostly watching Yuri (bait) anime. My reaction of the first two episodes was that I found the premise and the main character to be absolutely hilarious. I really hadn't expected the MC to be this bold. The animation was pretty good however and the little fight scene at the beginning was cool. However, at that point my biggest fear was that the show would turn into some sort of boring drama/slice of life where the MC and her love interest never really get interesting development and where nothing exciting happens. This lead me to start reading the manga, which I finished in one setting (under 30 chapters because it adapts the LN as well). Because I still wanted more I got into what was currently translated of the WN (not much) and now I'm considering picking up the LN. Now, I didn't expect being this surprised by the themes covered by the series. Obviously, there's the matter of responsibilities: how the princess should act like a princess but doesn't, for example. Then, liberty, which is easy to see thanks to Euphylia who gets to live freely. However, I didn't expect the series to dive this deep into the theme of It's also important to note the series is character-focused. Therefore it spends a lot of time developping its cast, which I think is just the right size (for now at least). Overall, I think the characters are the best strength of the series. They're endearing and well written in my opinion. The few bits of action here and there along with the *spoiler* theme really add some welcome spicyness to the mix. Would recommend trying out, I'm really enjoying this one. |
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Geeljire said: Because the main character here is female from the beginning and is not doing a "we hate men" thing where they kill of the guy to have their yuri. But the female character was the MC since ever in that other series too, and they never killed a male to have their yuri and say "we hate men" what? |
Geeljire said: Ionliosite2 said: Don't act obtuse, there is a reason the rabid yuri fanbase were cheering the guy being killed, it's so they can have their yuri fetish ship and have the guy out of the way. But the female character was the MC since ever in that other series too, and they never killed a male to have their yuri and say "we hate men" what? Yuri fans are like this, they also hated on the poor Hibike Euphonium dude for no reason. This show doesn't have this problem, especially considering the prince guy himself rejected the girl anyway so yuri shippers don't mind him. I'm not acting obtuse, your description simply isn't how the series goes at all. |
Ionliosite2 said: The last time I saw an isekai + yuri anime it got very harshly received by people, how come that didn't happen to this one? Because they're finding it more enjoyable? Not all shows that feature one thing in common (fantasy with some yuri) have to be equally well-received. I personally found Shoukei Shoujo to be a let-down after its opening episode and didn't enjoy the characters much. We'll see if this show can do better as it goes. |
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