Mushoku Tensei: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu Part 2 Episode 3 Discussion

Oct 17, 2021 6:41 PM

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Manaarii_0 said:

Nice easter-egg at the end.

Really shocked and excited when I saw

there

Oct 17, 2021 6:57 PM

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Anyone else noticed that the OP changes with every continent Rudeus is in? First it was Tabibito no Uta for Central continent where he was born and raised, then Mezame no Uta for the Démon Continent, and now Keishou no Uta for the Millis Continent. Oh boiii, I can't get enough of MT's OP's

That's a good catch. I do wish they actually had showed the map more briefly and pinpoint where the party was at any given time in addition to explaining why sea travel isn't really a thing in the middle section and other details though I understand it's not really feasible in an adaption and would take a lot of time.

Actually this has been bugging me too, since they have all the time to show the world around Rudeus as the showcase for the OP, why not throw in a smattering of the map where it is happening too? They're missing out on such worldbuilding potential right there.

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Oct 17, 2021 7:07 PM

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am i the only one disturbed by the fact that Beast People are now happy at the end of the episode even though quite a large number of Beast men/women got massacred during the raid? kids got orphaned and at the end we see everyone being happy dovey.. like wtf..

Well, life is hard in the woods.

Since the 1st season it seems clear that Rudeus is the most "delicate" person around. Even the little Eris was "nah, whatever" to people get murdered next to her.

So, short mournings are usual to violent places.

Actually the weakest part of the plot to me was the way like they TOO MUCH CONVENIENTLY let the clothes and wand (what is a weapon) of Rudeus just one jump far from his jail, lol.

Oct 17, 2021 7:14 PM

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SeaJaeger said:

Actually this has been bugging me too, since they have all the time to show the world around Rudeus as the showcase for the OP, why not throw in a smattering of the map where it is happening too? They're missing out on such worldbuilding potential right there.

Novel fans hate the manga, but this was a point that the manga did a better job.

Since they are doing a world-travel, show a f* map is essential to the audience be more involved by the story.

For example, this single page from Chapter 18 was amazing to explain it without doing that "meta" exposition to the audience:

Oct 17, 2021 7:39 PM

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Kaiseki said:
Looks like Rudeus is in the village where the beast peoples live, Rudeus becomes a senpai in that place lmao.

Damn, so it was Garus who planned to attack the beast people's village. I thought Junior would run away in that situation, but he helped Rudeus, he is a good junior.

Finally the misunderstanding has been resolved.

Fufu a good newbie huh. Hmm. Aight. I won't spoil.

Oct 17, 2021 7:42 PM

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JuwN said:
Can someone please explain if theres specific reason as to why Roxy went out her way to find Paul's family? I mean Paul and Roxy's relation are nothing more than paid teacher am I wrong? seems the anime and wiki didn't really give me a solid answer.

hmm, well, roxy was like an outcast from migird tribe. She can't do telepathy. So she wasn't able to play like everyone. And also she was a bit cocky bcz she was kinda op. But Rudy and family make her realise there's a lot more out there. And I can't explain anymore without spoiling so imma stop

Oct 17, 2021 7:58 PM

#157

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dam that ending totally turned the mood around. :( His beast degeneracy will at least live on in Rudy.

Oct 17, 2021 8:01 PM

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JuwN said:
Can someone please explain if theres specific reason as to why Roxy went out her way to find Paul's family? I mean Paul and Roxy's relation are nothing more than paid teacher am I wrong? seems the anime and wiki didn't really give me a solid answer.

hmm, well, roxy was like an outcast from migird tribe. She can't do telepathy. So she wasn't able to play like everyone. And also she was a bit cocky bcz she was kinda op. But Rudy and family make her realise there's a lot more out there. And I can't explain anymore without spoiling so imma stop

i see, so much more will be explained further in the story? Thanks.

Oct 17, 2021 8:05 PM

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NaiduMugiwara said:

Fufu a good newbie huh. Hmm. Aight. I won't spoil.

since you said that, I've got spoiler, as if you were telling that something would happen with that Junior, even though you didn't tell what would happen.

Oct 17, 2021 8:07 PM

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NOOOO OJII-SAN :(

Oct 17, 2021 8:09 PM

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Im happy that the misunderstanding was cleared. And the battle was great. And it's really heartwarming to see Eris-chan so happy.

Though kinda sad about Eris-chan's grandfather.

the buta Darius is looks kinda disgusting.

Is that Sylphiette-chan!?? That mask girl.

Looking forward for what will happen in the future.

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Oct 17, 2021 8:12 PM

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the buta Darius is looks kinda disgusting.

yeah lol, also Darius looks kinda sus

Oct 17, 2021 8:22 PM

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pasanoid said:

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Minor changes were there but it was fairly cohesive stuff overall. The Neverland comparison's way off the mark when it comes to adaptation comparisons. This is still a great adaptation, just not a perfect 1:1 of the source material. That Neverland adaptation in season 2 was.... I don't even wanna get into details about that one.

idk man, they cut some things out, they add some new thing in. this makes me slightly worried. yakusoku neverland s2 too had a few good episodes -- and boom -- it became a pile of crap. I hope I'm just overreacting

I think you're worrying too much. Nothing skipped was that critical. It's nice world building stuff yes, but you would never be able to properly adapt volumes 5 and 6 if you spent too much time on volume 4, which is by far the least important content of the 6 volumes being adapted.

Oct 17, 2021 8:37 PM

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NhtDesu said:

Tylaen said:

I can't argue with so many unknowns in this equation you're giving me. It's asking me to make up my own hypothetical and entirely personal fanfiction to give me a satisfactory answer to my own complaint.

I'd also like to note I didn't complain about them taking him back. It is still pretty dumb that they apparently haven't questioned him at all.

Maybe NhtDesu did and I guess we'll see next week.

Well in these kind of tribal setting like these usually the chief is the one who get to deal with the heavy case such as Rudeus. What I'm list above is just the thing that could possibly happen given the situation some said the beastman just dumb, plot device,.. like you guys but to me it's just an unfortunate accident due to poor communication. It's really late now 2am and I haven't slept yet so yeah good night and see you next week!

Well I'm one of the people who said the beastmen are just dumb. I'll put the following in spoilers since I don't know if the show will get to explaining it or not. If you want context for the beast men please read, it's nothing too crazy. Some of this is stuff the anime has skipped adapting, some of it may still be adapted next episode based on what the title for next episode is.

One thing I've noticed is ALOT of people saying they have no context for the behavior of the beastpeople. All I would say is, you're right. It hasn't been explained yet, but since the next episode is titled "Slow Life in Dedoldia Village" I imagine your explanation will be coming shortly. The last chapter of Vol 4 in the LN has the same name, and its in that chapter where alllllll the stuff about the beast people, their motivations, and their faults are explained.

I imagine some wouldn't be satisfied with that and thats fine I suppose. I don't particularly like this volume of the LN myself. This stuff does get explained though.

Oct 17, 2021 9:09 PM

#165

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Very good episode.

9.0/10

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Oct 17, 2021 10:18 PM

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Mushoku Tensei is probably the best animated show of all time. In every other show, even Ufotable shows, when characters talk, only their mouth moves and rest is mostly static.

However idk how many people noticed but when Eris was talking this episode you could see multiple sets of animation, they clearly went the extra mile and drew more frames with more detail. You can see her head tilting in different directions as she talks, her cheeks and eyes change all the time and even more.

Also that sakuga during fights was just god tier.

As for the episode itself, it was good. I just wasn't a fan of how Eris and Rujerd did not show up to save Rudy. The explanation at the end as to why they didn't felt a bit half assed.

Apart from that it was good.

Oct 17, 2021 10:20 PM

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pasanoid said:

animejas said:

Minor changes were there but it was fairly cohesive stuff overall. The Neverland comparison's way off the mark when it comes to adaptation comparisons. This is still a great adaptation, just not a perfect 1:1 of the source material. That Neverland adaptation in season 2 was.... I don't even wanna get into details about that one.

idk man, they cut some things out, they add some new thing in. this makes me slightly worried. yakusoku neverland s2 too had a few good episodes -- and boom -- it became a pile of crap. I hope I'm just overreacting

You are overreacting. This is just godly. Episode was not all over the place it was very cohesive with amazing script writing and story.

Oct 17, 2021 10:21 PM

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JuwN said:
Can someone please explain if theres specific reason as to why Roxy went out her way to find Paul's family? I mean Paul and Roxy's relation are nothing more than paid teacher am I wrong? seems the anime and wiki didn't really give me a solid answer.

Because she loves them. She stayed with them for 2 years.

Oct 17, 2021 10:34 PM

#169

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The episode was entertaining watching RUDY 'Senpai' in that state.

The man who was with RUDY was a good person.

Many things are happening while RUDEUD and ERIS are away from their family. ERIS's grandfather was beheaded.

Oct 17, 2021 10:46 PM

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YOOOOO ya'll ain't slick we caught that 2 second glimpse of

We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths.
As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are.
That's what death is, don't you think?

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Oct 18, 2021 4:14 AM

#171

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What an episode! Loved it!

Oct 18, 2021 4:41 AM

#172

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So finally, Rudeus power gave more contribution on beating someone. And poor Eris, her gramps died. The monologues in the intro is so funny, kudos to Sugita-san. The sakuga are very awesome. And this Geese guy, what can we know more from him? Will he become Sokka of this show?

Хайде, хайде, хайде, това е първата зона, брато, първа зона, първа зона, добре, добре, добре, това става тук горе, отива тук горе, само спокойно, само спокойно... Ха, отдясно е, навсякъде отдясно отдясно къде е дясното ти о да добре добре добре тихо мълчаливо не успях да се съсредоточа върху това ЕХ ТЪПАК КОГАТО СИ БАВНО БАВНО ... ой е путката на моето момиче прасе куче, аз Чувствам се добре, о, мамо, *шамар*, какво е това госпожице татко-

Oct 18, 2021 4:55 AM

#173

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why why 24 minutes length like 5 minute !!!
probably this best isekai !!

Oct 18, 2021 5:55 AM

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UTMAN said:
Okay, this is the first episode where I really can't complain about anything. Rudeus naked for like a week was funny, but it became weird that after he got a cellmate, the new dude for some reason they let him keep his cloth, but not Rudeus. So it was kinda felt that Rudeus was naked for the sake of comedy rather than plot.

Animation was really nice, also the new OP song is okay, I guess? I liked the previous one better, but I guess it will grow on me eventually. Keep it up Mushoku!

Well, the kouhai didnt "defile" their sacred beast. They are probably being extra harsh with Rudeus because of that.

Oct 18, 2021 6:11 AM

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Siegfried10 said:

UTMAN said:
Okay, this is the first episode where I really can't complain about anything. Rudeus naked for like a week was funny, but it became weird that after he got a cellmate, the new dude for some reason they let him keep his cloth, but not Rudeus. So it was kinda felt that Rudeus was naked for the sake of comedy rather than plot.

Animation was really nice, also the new OP song is okay, I guess? I liked the previous one better, but I guess it will grow on me eventually. Keep it up Mushoku!

Well, the kouhai didnt "defile" their sacred beast. They are probably being extra harsh with Rudeus because of that.

Another user already pointed it out the details. My first thought that they removed it because it might be magically enchanced or something along that line, since he was a wizard.

Oct 18, 2021 6:13 AM

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JuwN said:
So I just watched the episode for the 2nd time and was wondering if there was any significance when rudeus was carving a single letter of a mix T and F while he was in his cage?

seems to be a kanji tally system to keep track of the days

Oct 18, 2021 6:25 AM

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Well now this was almost perfect but that ending cut to Eris' Grandpa's death came literally out of nowhere, it killed for me what otherwise would be a fantastic episode.

From what I could gather in the source this was revealed much later when Rudy or Eris themselves find out, this would have been much better and more impactful for the audience, now I'll prolly have to sit for weeks watching Eris happily oblivious of this awful truth.

Aside from that... the fight was awesome, the world building phenomenal, love the new music and the new characters.

P.S:
I almost didn't catch that Kaiji Reference. Neat.

Oct 18, 2021 8:19 AM

#178

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One of my favorite episodes of the series so far.
Rip Eris's grandpa.

Oct 18, 2021 8:20 AM

#179

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Animation looking so good i *yeah idk*
This is amazing so far though.

Oct 18, 2021 8:43 AM

#180

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Ah, so it was Gallus who attacked the beast village. Rudeus and Geese put up a nice fight against Gallus, and thankfully, they came out victorious in the end. Honestly, I like Geese. His enthusiastic personality is pretty refreshing. Ruijerd and Eris had some troubles on their end but, the misunderstanding is finally resolved. RIP to Sauros.

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Oct 18, 2021 8:49 AM

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UTMAN said:

Siegfried10 said:

Well, the kouhai didnt "defile" their sacred beast. They are probably being extra harsh with Rudeus because of that.

Another user already pointed it out the details. My first thought that they removed it because it might be magically enchanced or something along that line, since he was a wizard.

the clothes thing are the beastman tradition. they basic go with they most hard punishment aka nake and thorw water in the face... we have this in the novel.

Oct 18, 2021 9:19 AM

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Erogamerss said:

UTMAN said:

Another user already pointed it out the details. My first thought that they removed it because it might be magically enchanced or something along that line, since he was a wizard.

the clothes thing are the beastman tradition. they basic go with they most hard punishment aka nake and thorw water in the face... we have this in the novel.

As I said, a user already pointed this out. Since I am an anime only it was confusing a bit. It's not like I consider it a huge issue. Thanks for the clarification though.

Oct 18, 2021 9:34 AM

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That intro though! I completely forgot what happened in the last episode because I've been busy, so I totally thought Rudeus was talking about their stay in a rent-free hotel! Lmao!!

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Later in the episode...

I feel bad for Eris's grandfather (also Rudeus's Grandfather right?). Eris wanted to boast about it to his father! What the actual ****! I feel so bad both for Eris and for the Grandpa.

Oct 18, 2021 10:06 AM

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UTMAN said:
Okay, this is the first episode where I really can't complain about anything. Rudeus naked for like a week was funny, but it became weird that after he got a cellmate, the new dude for some reason they let him keep his cloth, but not Rudeus. So it was kinda felt that Rudeus was naked for the sake of comedy rather than plot.

Animation was really nice, also the new OP song is okay, I guess? I liked the previous one better, but I guess it will grow on me eventually. Keep it up Mushoku!

I mean I could be wrong but I think the idea is that they think rudeus did something that makes them consider him literal scum of the earth, it's why dirty water was poured on him and not his cell mate who only cheated in gambling
Edit: lol sorry I see people already answered this for you my bad:)

Oct 18, 2021 10:20 AM

#185

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A decent Mushoku episode?! Didn't expect...

Oct 18, 2021 10:22 AM

#186

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Great episode! That whole segment in the prisono was hilarious lmao. I like Geese already, I hope he becomes a recurring character.

Rudeus vs Gallus was awesome, glad the misunderstanding was solved. Lovingly hugging doggo is not equal to lewding the doggo. I like how the beast people's punishment are belly rubs lmao. I think it's a really important moment for Rudeus's character, being thanked by the beast people. His growth to become less scummy as he is right now.

Honestly don't feel that sad for Sauros himself dying since I don't really think he was the greatest person around, I am more sad for Eris, because she doesn't know that she can't tell him all these stories she has right now of her adventures. Really looking forward to the next episode.

Oct 18, 2021 11:29 AM

#187

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Nice! I really, really love this episode. Watching this makes me think that this has surpassed my expectations when I compare it with the Manga. Rudeus being Rudeus on the first half was really fun to watch though I am a bit disappointed when Rudeus' spell casting wasn't that great enough to blow my mind but the help he gave to their tribe is really praise worthy even as a bystander and a prisoner of them.

It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.

Oct 18, 2021 11:51 AM

#188

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this ep felt really out of place, certain funny bits though. rudy being naked and imprisoned..deserved. glad he and the other guy helped the children. good to see eris again

Oct 18, 2021 12:06 PM

#189

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the ending, what the actual heck fam. huuuh?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Oct 18, 2021 2:23 PM

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DannX said:
Well now this was almost perfect but that ending cut to Eris' Grandpa's death came literally out of nowhere, it killed for me what otherwise would be a fantastic episode.

From what I could gather in the source this was revealed much later when Rudy or Eris themselves find out, this would have been much better and more impactful for the audience, now I'll prolly have to sit for weeks watching Eris happily oblivious of this awful truth.

Aside from that... the fight was awesome, the world building phenomenal, love the new music and the new characters.

P.S:
I almost didn't catch that Kaiji Reference. Neat.

You do realize that's on purpose right? The creator of the ln felt that the scene in the original came out of nowhere in the sense that it seemed like he made it up out of nowhere, so this time they're having a buildup to rudeus and Eris reveal to It. And the idea that you're going to feel bad knowing about it when they don't is also intentional, what did you hate it when Hughes died in fma and elric winry and al were having good times not knowing about it? Jesus people will seriously complain about anything nowadays.

Oct 18, 2021 2:24 PM

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Sigmar-Unberogen said:
A decent Mushoku episode?! Didn't expect...

WE DID IT BOYS REJOICE

Oct 18, 2021 3:27 PM

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Good episode. White Fox is amazing.

Oct 18, 2021 4:02 PM

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Binged the entire first season yesterday, damn I might not be able to hold back with this one and go read the manga, sooo good

But the animation is also soooo damn good, never been so conflicted

Oct 18, 2021 6:52 PM

#194

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ERIS GRANDPA DEAD???????

Oct 18, 2021 7:18 PM

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A few differences between this episode and the LN. One of them I wish they didn't show was Sauros Greyrat's execution (not in the books btw,) because how they learned about it was much more impactful in the books.

Oct 18, 2021 8:53 PM

#196

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This series is getting better each episode. Loved Rudeus`s new friend in the cage.

Oct 18, 2021 9:10 PM

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Binged the entire first season yesterday, damn I might not be able to hold back with this one and go read the manga, sooo good

But the animation is also soooo damn good, never been so conflicted

If you want to delve into this series it's better to read the novel, because the manga is slow paced and there's more cut content.

Oct 18, 2021 10:03 PM

#198

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So... did Rudeus finally kill someone?

Also, I wonder if Ghislaine is related to these beast men. Would be too much of a coincidence tho.

OK episode overall. Gotta say the misunderstanding felt incredibly forced when nobody let Rudeus explain himself tho.

P.S.: RIP horny grandpa.

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Oct 18, 2021 11:33 PM

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The village reminded me a lot of the village from Return of the Jedi. Any other Star Wars fan here who got the same feeling?

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Oct 19, 2021 1:38 AM

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Are we getting new members in the dead end? It would be fun if the sacred beast and the prison kouhai joined them

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