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StardustReverie said: CelesteInTime said: Nasu can't stop winning. Are you serious? Last unkore makes this shit look like a masterpiece in comparison. FGO is complete shit. Tsukihime remake is average at best. Nothing really happens in it outside of a couple dragged out fight scenes in a completely unsuited format (text). The guy is way past his peak. I can't speak for FGO cause I've only read the Stay Night VN, or the Tsukihime Remake, since I haven't read it. What I do know is that the Tsukihime VN has received a very warm welcome. It's selling well, mainstream coverage is good, fans are happy, Japanese crowd is happy, It's doing pretty well for itself. It's the most widespread coverage a VN has got in a long time. Wdym unsuited format? You do know that Visual Novels are a thing right? Typemoons VN Fights are pretty good. And VNs are an excellent storytelling medium Dies Irae, Aoishiro, Ryuukishis stuff, Steins Gate, are all amazing works. Text is a perfectly fine format, looks like someone is too lazy to read like Satoko. Heh. |
ChargecoulombOct 1, 2021 7:44 AM
trgnhn said: davidyodo24 said: wait, isn't they transformed back to kids after holding hands just metafor? am i the only who who get this? If that’s a metaphor and they didn’t actually go back in time then the happy ending we got isn’t real (or at leat happened in another world unconnected to the main Rika & Satoko), since the scene where Rika leave for St. Lucia happened in March, 87. While the battle and hand holding in car scene happened when they have already went to the academy, in the summer break of 87. Oh i see what you meant, because in the battle scene they have once scene on St. Lucia, and that's how you think they have already went there? |
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davidyodo24 said: trgnhn said: If that’s a metaphor and they didn’t actually go back in time then the happy ending we got isn’t real (or at leat happened in another world unconnected to the main Rika & Satoko), since the scene where Rika leave for St. Lucia happened in March, 87. While the battle and hand holding in car scene happened when they have already went to the academy, in the summer break of 87. Oh i see what you meant, because in the battle scene they have once scene on St. Lucia, and that's how you think they have already went there? They reset the Fragment back to when Matsubiriyashi began. Rika and Satoko continue from there. Rika is the only one who goes to St Lucia. |
Chargecoulomb said: There was no reason for that but you know....whatever makes it go on...davidyodo24 said: Oh i see what you meant, because in the battle scene they have once scene on St. Lucia, and that's how you think they have already went there? They reset the Fragment back to when Matsubiriyashi ended. Rika and Satoko continue from there. Rika is the only one who goes to St Lucia. |
Chargecoulomb said: davidyodo24 said: Oh i see what you meant, because in the battle scene they have once scene on St. Lucia, and that's how you think they have already went there? They reset the Fragment back to when Matsubiriyashi began. Rika and Satoko continue from there. Rika is the only one who goes to St Lucia. Ohh yeah i forgot about the fragments, okay now i understand. Thank You |
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ssjokg said: Chargecoulomb said: There was no reason for that but you know....whatever makes it go on...They reset the Fragment back to when Matsubiriyashi ended. Rika and Satoko continue from there. Rika is the only one who goes to St Lucia. It's redundant but the other explanations kinda cause more problems. You could say that Rika and Satoko purposefully jumped to a certain point in time - but then, who's controlling the time? Satoko? Neither of them show any surprise when St Lucia segments begin so... Eua is only showing Hanyuu flashcuts of what happened so the time between each kill is unclear. We just have to apply Ryuukishis new Evangelion Philosophy. Don't think about it, just watch. Turn off your brain and watch the spectacle unfold. |
trgnhn said: davidyodo24 said: Oh i see what you meant, because in the battle scene they have once scene on St. Lucia, and that's how you think they have already went there? I think they have already went there because the whole gang was wearing the same clothes as when they returned to Hinamizawa for club reunion, in some times after June 87. You can go back to Gou ep 20 to check. Anyway I should stop trying to figure this shit out using logic since it’s clear those at Passione didn’t Lmao yeah maybe you right, maybe you not Because they didn't use logic making this. |
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| Been enticed with the gore and brutality of Higurashi, even though this was the desired end it felt quite lackluster. This show started out as a cute moe moe girls talk kinda thing before spiraling into the most gruesome act and ending with a if you love em you should let go thing. Honestly this show gave me the thrills for all the flashy red painted all over my memory. And now it has come to an end. Season 1 left us with many questions while this season answered them all. Also ending the show with the most iconic song of the series is the best sendoff we could get. |
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| [OG watcher here] I would describe this ending as a "safe ending". From my point of view, it wasn't a dumpsterfire but it also wasn't a glorious firework. It was kind of disappointing to see that SOTSU didn't overthrow my expectations like the first few seasons. A fist fight instead of a battle of wits and words? That felt a bit off for Higurashi, turning into a shounen for a few minutes there. Furthermore, I already suspected that we would get a good ending like in the OG - which is not a bad thing I have to stress here - but the way it came to that conclusion wasn't exactly what I hoped for. I expected more subterfuge from Ryukishi on that front, diverting my thoughts on how it could and would end. In addition, the season was for a huge chunk repetitive, since we already knew it was Satoko and what her motivation was for doing what she did. I understand that Ryukishi wanted to show us how things happened behind the scenes in GOU, but he managed to do that better in the OG I feel. Could be wrong here. Yet the biggest thing that I disliked: That it wasn't the "real Satoko" that did all this horrible stuff, but rather "the witch Satoko" if I understood correctly. That shifted the blame easily away to someone else. I think it would have made for a more interesting story if the blame wouldn't have been so easily diverted. BUT what was fantastic was the animation as well as the sound. There are many a series out there which didn't get a good looking anime adaption. So bravo to Passione. I loved the little details - like the ominous eyes in a window reflection of Satoko or the reflection of when she was a child in the water in the OP. Opening and ending theme always hit a home-run, especially this new "dear you" version at the end. That really made me tear up. Seeing everybody happy in the end was damn good. Calendar pages have been torn off, worlds crumbled only to be renewed again and so the story unfolded. All in all, I sincerely thank with all my heart everybody who made Higurashi into what it is today - Ryukishi, the VAs, the animators, the sound specialists and so many more. Good thing that Ryukishi back then was able to get the VN to be sold in stores in Akihabara when it first started out... Well, it seems this is it. So long Rika, Satoko, Shion, Mion, Rena and Keiichi. So long Hinamizawa. Will we ever see them again? I do not know, but if we do, one thing is certain: We shall see each other again - when they cry. |
DhemereonDec 11, 2021 12:46 PM
| After watching OG Higurashi and reading VN Umineko i fell in love with Ryukishi07. The plot, mystery, character development was so good in this series, so my expectations for gousotsu were quite high. After watching gousotsu i was so disappointed, no character development, repeated scenes like rika dancing for the fifth time and many others scenes that just extend the duration. The solution to the problem between rika and satoko was so pointless it was a shock for me. Like really... Torturing rika for another 100 years and then just come to your friends so they can tell you "friendships are not eternal" and you say... "Oh you're totally right, so lets end our fight and just say goodbye" You might as well compare it with this example: you're working really hard for your goal to accomplish for so long, you sacrife everything and then your friend telling you: "why do you do this, nothing last forever anyway", and you just don't do it anymore. The plot was too predictable, after knowing that satoko was using the vaccine, too many things in sotsu was already known, combining it with repeated scenes just from another perspective creates a disaster. C'mon Ryukishi07 you can do better. I hope that the next higu/umi/anything will not be disappoiting for me and many others and i keep my fingers crossed. |
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Dhemereon said: [OG watcher here if it interests someone.] I too think I would describe this ending as a "safe ending". From my point of view, it wasn't a dumpsterfire but it also wasn't a glorious firework. It was kind of disappointing to see that SOTSU didn't overthrow my expectations like the first few seasons. A fist fight instead of a battle of wits and words? That felt a bit off for Higurashi, turning into a shounen for a few minutes there. Furthermore, I already suspected that we would get a good ending like in the OG - which is not a bad thing I have to stress here - but the way it came to that conclusion wasn't exactly what I hoped for. I expected more subterfuge from Ryukishi on that front, diverting my thoughts on how it could and would end. In addition, the season was for a huge chunk repetitive, since we already knew it was Satoko and what her motivation was for doing what she did. I understand that Ryukishi wanted to show us how things happened behind the scenes in GOU, but he managed to do that better in the OG I feel. Could be wrong here. Yet the biggest thing that I disliked: That it wasn't the "real Satoko" that did all this horrible stuff, but rather "the witch Satoko" if I understood correctly. That shifted the blame easily away to someone else. I think it would have made for a more interesting story if the blame wouldn't have been so easily diverted. BUT what was fantastic was the animation as well as the sound. There are many a series out there which didn't get a good looking anime adaption, which have gotten a worse fate. So bravo to Passione. I loved the little details - like the ominous eyes in a window reflection of Satoko or the reflection of when she was a child in the water in the opening. Opening and ending theme always hit a home-run, especially this new "dear you" version at the end. That really made me tear up. Seeing everybody happy in the end was damn good. Calendar pages have been torn off, worlds crumbled only to be renewed again and so the story unfolded - this was Higurashi no naku koro ni. All in all, I sincerely thank with all my heart everybody who made Higurashi into what it is today - Ryukishi, the VAs, the animators, the sound specialists and so many more. One could say it was a "miracle" that Ryukishi back then was able to get the VN to be sold in stores in Akihabara when it first started out... Well, it seems this is it. So long Rika, Satoko, Shion, Mion, Rena and Keiichi. So long Hinamizawa. Will we ever see them again? I do not know, but if we do, one thing is certain: We shall see each other again - when they cry. The "witch Satoko" angle doesn't fly because we actually see every step of her becoming evil in Gou, and it was all under her own free will. Satoko having a split personality really doesn't make any sense and is a cheap way to absolve her of her crimes. Check out the Shion arc in Higurashi Season 1 for an answer arc done well. Little to no repeated content except to provide context every now and then, and it told it's own compelling behind-the-scenes story where we didn't already know every twist, and explored in depth a character we knew very little about at the time. It blows away every answer arc in Sotsu. |
Haunt-botOct 1, 2021 10:15 AM
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smoledman said: She tried studying for many loops? Exactly when did that happen? Pretty sure she repeated St. Lucia only ONCE.Satako clearly tried to study hard for many loops to no avail. Some people are just not cut out for academics, but have street smarts. Why can't people accept it? Rika finally did. Anyway, even if she did go to St. Lucia multiple times, you'd imagine a person with "street smarts" would try to actually NOT GOING if it wasn't that nice. smoledman said: She didn't live through 1000s of loops to lose her sanity. She was mad in the very beginning and then she watched Rika's loops. She was already a lost cause since the day she met Eua.I can't exactly imagine what it's like to live through 1000s of loops like that and what that would do to one's sanity. Not gonna judge Satako. |
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| it's done. okay i'm honest i had my fun with this Gou and Sotsu. Satoko just got away with it and the brutal and bloody fight to death got to a silly kids fight. ok. also Satokos huge wrath against Rika was like"you dumb" and Rika:" no u" also Hanyuu:" Bibidi Babidi Boo, now you are a Loli too:" Eua:k, bye" also Satoshi wakes up. yay :I the "Dear you" song at the end hit my right in the nostalgia. well played. all what i can say is this. it was nice to get back to Hinamizawa, but now let it rest in peace. |
animu007Oct 1, 2021 10:50 AM
| Its confirmed! Mei is getting a Umineko Promotion! Dataminers found stuff in the games archives from Umineko. Im now mostly sure this site is for Umineko Mei tie in. |
| Nothing is sacred anymore. I wish Ryuukishi could do like the Forgers and leave the characters alone. |
Chargecoulomb said: And if Mei is getting Umineko tie in... we all know what's going to happen next.Its confirmed! Mei is getting a Umineko Promotion! Dataminers found stuff in the games archives from Umineko. Im now mostly sure this site is for Umineko Mei tie in. |
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Chargecoulomb said: Its confirmed! Mei is getting a Umineko Promotion! Dataminers found stuff in the games archives from Umineko. Im now mostly sure this site is for Umineko Mei tie in. I was searching in google what Mei is and found information that Higurashi Mei is just a game for phone, but nothing more. What is Umineko Mei? /edit Thanks Hulio, now i understand |
OlisanOct 1, 2021 2:03 PM
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Olisan said: Uhh... well... it's Umineko-Mei tie in, not Umineko Mei ._.Chargecoulomb said: Its confirmed! Mei is getting a Umineko Promotion! Dataminers found stuff in the games archives from Umineko. Im now mostly sure this site is for Umineko Mei tie in. I was searching in google what Mei is and found information that Higurashi Mei is just a game for phone, but nothing more. What is Umineko Mei? so just Umineko stuff in Higurashi Mei |
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Chargecoulomb said: Umineko shit remake-I mean, sequel, let's goooooIts confirmed! Mei is getting a Umineko Promotion! Dataminers found stuff in the games archives from Umineko. Im now mostly sure this site is for Umineko Mei tie in. |
| eh it was ok they could play something else than Dear You like first OP |
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| I was hoping for more gore and erasing but tis not bad, man I wish satoko and shion would just pancake me. |
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| So the power of friendship saves the day once again. What a lame ending after all the effort Satoko went through. |
Ok, let's resume Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Sotsu.
5/10. I loved the ending, though. This song was great and that was the feeling for a closure, but........ not for this. |
niko_sbOct 1, 2021 9:30 PM
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| Okay, so this show was pointless. It achieved exactly nothing, there was no purpose to it, all the hints at Umineko turned out to be baits. What a fucking piece of shit. |
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mrixl said: Satoshi > Wakes upThat was very underwhelming, sorta wholesome especially with Satoshi, but left me not impressed Viewer > Damn this is wholesome. |
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| they should have just stuck to a remake of the original ngl |
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TheFel0x said: they should have just stuck to a remake of the original ngl It isn't like any scene which actually was a remake of an original scene was done as good as, let alone better than, the same scenes in seasons one and two anyway. So that might have turned out better quality in terms of the story, because the story of seasons one and two is obviously 1000x better and more detailed than Gou/Sotsu, but it still would have been an inferior version, making it kind of pointless. Readers of the VN and sometimes manga often consider seasons one and two to be an inferior version of the original original (source material) anyway, but at least that very much served a purpose - to translate it to another medium - an anime for TV broadcast. Doing that again except a worse version just seems like such a needless waste of time, effort, and resources. Unless they actually made it better, of course. But not a single remade scene in Gou or Sotsu convinces me that that was ever a realistic possibility. They're just the same or similar scenes with inferior direction and line delivery, inferior use of music/OST, and less emotional power and impact as a result. |
Haunt-bot said: The "witch Satoko" angle doesn't fly because we actually see every step of her becoming evil in Gou, and it was all under her own free will. Satoko having a split personality really doesn't make any sense and is a cheap way to absolve her of her crimes. Check out the Shion arc in Higurashi Season 1 for an answer arc done well. Little to no repeated content except to provide context every now and then, and it told it's own compelling behind-the-scenes story where we didn't already know every twist, and explored in depth a character we knew very little about at the time. It blows away every answer arc in Sotsu. Wholeheartedly agree with this! The answer arcs in OG Higurashi aren't just copy-paste scenes, they really do show the different angles and perspectives. Gou and Sotsu didn't really do this, it became so repetitive and superficial. |
| The last 2 episodes are bad. The build up was great but those last 2 episodes is not Higurashi anymore, its more like Dragon Ball Z lmao. 6/10 but only because the beginning is actually great. 6 is fair and I'm being generous here cuz I love this series (the old one) |
GazzOct 3, 2021 8:41 AM
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| Seeing all the characters at the end kind of made me wish we had another arc with all their stories/different timeline (Satoshi waking up at the end for example, what a wasted opportunity to have some OG series moments) rather than a rehashed season of Gou. Kind of like how we explored Takanos backstory in Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni Kai. Alas that never happened. 😂 I was at the point at the end where I was thinking maybe it’s gona be an Umineko reboot and that didn’t happen either so I’m kind of disappointed. |
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| Comparisons with Dragon Ball Z are unfair. DBZ has way more character development, plot and consistency. |
Mirainikki2379 said: You make it sound like that instead of liking the ending,I personally loved the ending so much. Using the VN ending song immediately made me smile and cry at the same time, it was perfect for the ending. I believe they ended the story very well and using the vn ending song made it perfect because it brought back so many memories from the original story. Im happy with the ending. you liked the song ._. It wasn't bad to use the "Meakashi ending song", but at the same time it was kinda cheap way to gather some final points for the show. |
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| So confused and pretty disappointed.. .___. |
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| what a dumpsterfire, im happy it's over |
| Yeah dude that was bad |
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