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PinkShibaInu said: SkyhighCFC said: How is Rika irredeemable? Because she was selfish and wanted her friend to go to school with her? Please. She was portrayed as irredeemably stupid throughout the entire series who only got lucky by a sheer miracle in finding out Satoko was the culprit. Please. Are you sure it was a miracle and not hanyuu and not rika got suspecious when she swapped the trap with the teddy bear? You are making sound like rika would never found out. She couldn't remember in the loops of GOU because Satoko just injected the H-173 and deceiving the victum that got injected triggering L5. In Gou we didn't knew exactly who it was only in the very end we knew. Each time rika died she was trying to revert it and also almost in the end when hanyuu told Rika where the sword was she knew it was someone but couldn't know. In Sotsu we are seeing each ep until the final ones the Satoko POV but we already knew it was satoko rika doesn't know these ep's were a bit of information but a lot of recap. |
| Shiki is the best anime and unique with his style design, you can't change my mind from it |
| Most brutal kills compilation of the series. Ah this is what Higurashi feels like. Damn Rika had her facelift more than the sunrise. |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
UltimatMax said: PinkShibaInu said: She was portrayed as irredeemably stupid throughout the entire series who only got lucky by a sheer miracle in finding out Satoko was the culprit. Please. Are you sure it was a miracle and not hanyuu and not rika got suspecious when she swapped the trap with the teddy bear? You are making sound like rika would never found out. She couldn't remember in the loops of GOU because Satoko just injected the H-173 and deceiving the victum that got injected triggering L5. In Gou we didn't knew exactly who it was only in the very end we knew. Each time rika died she was trying to revert it and also almost in the end when hanyuu told Rika where the sword was she knew it was someone but couldn't know. In Sotsu we are seeing each ep until the final ones the Satoko POV but we already knew it was satoko rika doesn't know these ep's were a bit of information but a lot of recap. Rika finds about Satoko because... She got Rena's memories??? I've explained in detail in a previous post why Rika doesn't try at all to stop her fate in Gou. The Manga makes Satoko being caught by the bear trick appear due to dumb luck. |
Chargecoulomb said: UltimatMax said: Are you sure it was a miracle and not hanyuu and not rika got suspecious when she swapped the trap with the teddy bear? You are making sound like rika would never found out. She couldn't remember in the loops of GOU because Satoko just injected the H-173 and deceiving the victum that got injected triggering L5. In Gou we didn't knew exactly who it was only in the very end we knew. Each time rika died she was trying to revert it and also almost in the end when hanyuu told Rika where the sword was she knew it was someone but couldn't know. In Sotsu we are seeing each ep until the final ones the Satoko POV but we already knew it was satoko rika doesn't know these ep's were a bit of information but a lot of recap. Rika finds about Satoko because... She got Rena's memories??? I've explained in detail in a previous post why Rika doesn't try at all to stop her fate in Gou. The Manga makes Satoko being caught by the bear trick appear due to dumb luck. You forget she has still has the memories of being a looper right and the powers? Also in GOU in almost the last fragment she was suspecious about someone being a looper but couldn't know who only knew in the, she was about to to give up. You forget GOU stopped and the gun being pointed at Rika. I don't know where you got the "rika only knew was because it was a miracle or else she would eternally die till submission", and "satoko will get watch the wanted no matter how many times and how many people she kills". You also forget that teppei got memories of previous fragments or do you forget about that as well or it was just a "miracle of rika/hanyuu's powers" that made teppei getting the memories?. |
| Shiki is the best anime and unique with his style design, you can't change my mind from it |
| So this was the first episode with brand new content, finally picking up from where Gou left off, and it was honestly very wild lol, very off the wall. I honestly don’t know if I loved this or thought it was silly, probably both, but it was cool anyway. I love the reference to the OG Higurashi with Satoko and Rika fighting on the school rooftop with Keichi and Rena’s weapons, and seeing them fight each other for most of the episode was fun to watch, and also very brutal. Satoko swinging a burning frying pan into Rika’s face was probably the most brutal hit imo. And then near the end they both go super saiyan and have a Dragon Ball-esque battle. It was fun as hell, but man I can’t believe this is Higurashi lol |
| Also the Opening was foreshadowing this since the first episode. https://tenor.com/view/higurashi-sotsu-rika-satoko-anime-gif-22188665 |
| Shiki is the best anime and unique with his style design, you can't change my mind from it |
UltimatMax said: Chargecoulomb said: Rika finds about Satoko because... She got Rena's memories??? I've explained in detail in a previous post why Rika doesn't try at all to stop her fate in Gou. The Manga makes Satoko being caught by the bear trick appear due to dumb luck. You forget she has still has the memories of being a looper right and the powers? Also in GOU in almost the last fragment she was suspecious about someone being a looper but couldn't know who only knew in the, she was about to to give up. You forget GOU stopped and the gun being pointed at Rika. I don't know where you got the "rika only knew was because it was a miracle or else she would eternally die till submission", and "satoko will get watch the wanted no matter how many times and how many people she kills". You also forget that teppei got memories of previous fragments or do you forget about that as well or it was just a "miracle of rika/hanyuu's powers" that made teppei getting the memories?. Weren't we talking about Rika setting the box trap for Satoko? The manga makes it out to be dumb luck and the Anime Rika remembers Satoko killing People because she got memories that she is not supposed to have. The other points you made have no relevance to the box trap so I'm not responding to those. |
UltimatMax said: Also the Opening was foreshadowing this since the first episode. https://tenor.com/view/higurashi-sotsu-rika-satoko-anime-gif-22188665 The magical girl transformations into miko outfits wasn't, though. |
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ZENI7H said: I don't really know much about that series I honestly wish they would have kept them separate, trying to watch a series and finding that you should have watched another series if you want to understand the one you're watching is a little off putting... This is where I'm at with this show, it's gone downhill ever since they introduced Eua because her entire character development is locked away in another series, but she's more integral to the plot than pretty much 98% of all the actual Higurashi characters. And every episode discussion since has devolved into people excited she made another random reference to another series. |
| HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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| Yo! No one told me this show was actually a fighting shounen is disguise. New Big 3 contender right here, boys! Honestly, it's quite impressive how SOTSU can reach a whole new low with each new episode. Like seriously, what the hell was this episode even? Finally some new content and they give us this Dragon Ball Z/Mahou Shoujo-esque parody xD So well... in the end, we got: - More than half the episode featuring the most violent cat fight between lolis I have ever seen. - Even more loli torture porn because of course. Both GOU and SOTSU's specialty, after all. - Rika not being able to win even once after exposing Satoko. I stopped counting after the 7th. death. - Hulk-toko throwing a 40kg. Taiko Drum like it was nothing. I practically lost my shit at this point lol. - Satoko and Rika jumping from one fragment to another without having to kill the other first. - Freaking Satoko shamelessly re-admitting she created all this madness just because she doesn't like studying. LMAO! - And the most insulting thing: Rika getting attached to her tormentor to the point of doubting about getting rid of her. No jokes, now I'm seriously concerned about the implication of them "almost kissing" in the OP actually being foreshadowing and not mere teasing. Damn, ahegao Rika is real. |
- Rika having magical powers (even beyond that of merely looping) means the original Higurashi is pointless because Rika was just hiding her true power level the entire time. - Both Rika and Satoko are very irredeemable people to the very end, which makes any "tragedy" that ever unfolded to begin with feel like it's no longer tragic. No ounce of empathy for anything that has ever happened. - NPCs like generic anime boy, green twins, and orange girl are more NPC than ever. - The direction of everything says Satoko will simply be redeemed in the end, merely because the author said so. - People saying Episode 14 justifies how boring Sotsu was is rather sad. It's like dangling keys in front of a bunch of babies to suddenly distract them. I was right to assume even far back during Gou, that any ounce of seriousness this franchise had left was gone. You can argue "WELL THE AUTHOR INTENDS THIS SO IT'S ALL JUSTIFIED" or "WHATEVER THE AUTHOR WRITES CAN NEVER BE JUMPING THE SHARK" however the AUDIENCE is free to disagree with whatever the author writes or intends. The only thing I learned from this experience is with any ounce of positive reception this show gets, is that ANYONE can truly be a successful writer. Just write anything and anime fans especially will eat it up. To all aspiring future writers out there just look at this mess and see how many people still defend it. If R07 can find even A LITTLE success, anyone can! a accurate comment that explains a lot of things. The people have never been interested higurashi for being well written story. it's just like any popular anime or stupid trend that I did not understood why they are popular? like fate or index being that they are trash HERE IS THE ANSWER! |
| We waited for 13 episodes for a DBZ catfight. The first half was gross loli torture porn because of course and the second half is DBZ catfight. Satoko killed Rika brutally many times, broke her mind, killed and ruined everyone's life without regard, tortured her friends who risked their lives for her, none of this get addressed. Rika forced Satoko to study so it's totally a reasonable outcome. I swear I have never seen a franchise being brought back after 2 decades just to get massacred like his. Almost a whole year pf airing time wasted on pitiful conflict between 2 little girls cuz one of them doesn't want to study. I am at the level where I am just speechless. Like, why? How? I always had some issues with some of Ryukishi's story writing but he was always a competent writer nonetheless, how did this come to pass? Did he want to troll his fans? Did someone blackmail him to write this? |
Devil_SlayerSep 23, 2021 11:42 PM
| This was actually dreadful. |
| huh |
| Hm... Well, I enjoyed it. But then again, I'm not as invested in the franchise as many other people are. I myself have my own favorite series that have unnecessary sequels or reboots that jump the shark and don't understand what made the original great to begin with, so I can at least understand that feeling. |
| What the fuck did I just watch. Just awful lol. And if I'll ever hear Eua's maniacal laugh again, I'll fucking kill myself. |
| Pros: Genuinely a well-directed episode. It looked good, the kakera hopping fight was fun, as was the awesome showdown between the two mains at the dam construction site. Lots of callbacks to beloved scenes from the original and a few hints at witch shenanigans. When I first watched it I was a bit upset that the fight broke a lot of rules about looping in the series, but thinking about it, this could be significant evidence of how they've completely let loose with the world-traversing powers they've been given. The episode was really, really enjoyable to watch with my brain off just taking in the senselessness of it all, the violence, Satoko outright confirming her complete lack of reasonable motive. She just hates studying. Cons: Since this is the second to last episode of this series there's very little time to wrap up a whole number of plot threads. Was there any significance at all to the memory leaks and Teppei's redemption? Satoshi is STILL bedridden and Satoko seems to have completely forgotten about her brother. The rest of the club has not played any significant role, despite the ending of Kai relying on their cooperation to overcome fate itself. They're even in the OP in letterman jackets but I've given up all hope of seeing that expounded on. For the final episode I can at least hope they address Satoko's whole split personality situation, that something comes of Eua & Hanyuu's face-off, and that this reaches a conclusion beyond simply reaffirming that Rika and Satoko love each other very very much. This episode put Sotsu firmly in the "fun" territory but I seriously hesitate to call it "good" or recommend it to fans of the original series. |
| Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhaahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaa Lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| I dunno, I kinda vibed with the jump to DBZ battles. Breath of fresh air after smashing Haruhi’s old record of 8 of the same damn episodes but from slightly different POVs. I’m pretty sure the story and character motivations are all kinds of fucked now, but hey maybe we can all still consider this a remake and not a sequel right? |
   I envy your delusion; I wish I could live in it  |
| 10/10. I'm getting ready to remove the second season, Kai, from its slot in my Top 20 on the profile page and exile that DEENification reject posthaste. Now just debating whether to add Gou and Sotsu both now in its place or wait until after the official finale. |
RayReynolds said: MAL's biggest shitposter is here?- Rika having magical powers (even beyond that of merely looping) means the original Higurashi is pointless because Rika was just hiding her true power level the entire time. - Both Rika and Satoko are very irredeemable people to the very end, which makes any "tragedy" that ever unfolded to begin with feel like it's no longer tragic. No ounce of empathy for anything that has ever happened. - NPCs like generic anime boy, green twins, and orange girl are more NPC than ever. - The direction of everything says Satoko will simply be redeemed in the end, merely because the author said so. - People saying Episode 14 justifies how boring Sotsu was is rather sad. It's like dangling keys in front of a bunch of babies to suddenly distract them. I was right to assume even far back during Gou, that any ounce of seriousness this franchise had left was gone. You can argue "WELL THE AUTHOR INTENDS THIS SO IT'S ALL JUSTIFIED" or "WHATEVER THE AUTHOR WRITES CAN NEVER BE JUMPING THE SHARK" however the AUDIENCE is free to disagree with whatever the author writes or intends. The only thing I learned from this experience is with any ounce of positive reception this show gets, is that ANYONE can truly be a successful writer. Just write anything and anime fans especially will eat it up. To all aspiring future writers out there just look at this mess and see how many people still defend it. If R07 can find even A LITTLE success, anyone can! a accurate comment that explains a lot of things. The people have never been interested higurashi for being well written story. it's just like any popular anime or stupid trend that I did not understood why they are popular? like fate or index being that they are trash HERE IS THE ANSWER! Cant say I am surprised. |
| w0w! this is DBZ level fight! awesome girls! 5/5. |
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Chargecoulomb said: Weren't we talking about Rika setting the box trap for Satoko? The manga makes it out to be dumb luck and the Anime Rika remembers Satoko killing People because she got memories that she is not supposed to have. The other points you made have no relevance to the box trap so I'm not responding to those. i didn't read the manga only saw the anime so i don't know what happens in there and if there is different from the anime i don't know then. Lil-Bird said: UltimatMax said: Also the Opening was foreshadowing this since the first episode. https://tenor.com/view/higurashi-sotsu-rika-satoko-anime-gif-22188665 The magical girl transformations into miko outfits wasn't, though. Yes. But the colours in there were clearly mentioning powers from each side and the the place of the fight is the sea of fragments as well. They wouldn't just battle just using normal weapons, since they are in a place that is magical (meta world). It was pretty obvious at least for me that a final battle between both would have happen and i assumed correctly that they would use powers to battle themselfs. The only thing i wasn't expecting was the miko transformation outfits. And next ep they will battle in the sea of fragments pretty sure. And for that to happen both will die i think to the Sword. Like rika said "If we are going to kill, we kill everyone and start the universe again" . |
| Shiki is the best anime and unique with his style design, you can't change my mind from it |
| Woah. If Eua is Ryuukishis self insert... Does that mean Hanyuu is BT? BT probably would be reacting the same way Hanyuu is if he ever saw this ep. The again if BT was around he would have stopped Ryuukishi suggesting SotsuGou in the first place |
| Holy fucking shit. I loved the callbacks throughout that fight, good to see chair-kun and roof-kun. |
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| biatch just go study stupid plot but the top tier animation is undeniable. |
ssjokg said: RayReynolds said: MAL's biggest shitposter is here?a accurate comment that explains a lot of things. The people have never been interested higurashi for being well written story. it's just like any popular anime or stupid trend that I did not understood why they are popular? like fate or index being that they are trash HERE IS THE ANSWER! Cant say I am surprised. And, speak of the devil here you have that kind of anime fans. |
| OK, there were some interesting directorial decisions in this episode, from the spinning shot at the start of the episode as Satoko shot Rika and then herself, to the ever-more-seamless transitions between loops (I know Satoko controls the loops and all, but how is she suddenly able to start things at whatever point she wants to make that happen?), but are you seriously telling me I sat through all those recaps for this? We could have got here more or less immediately after Gou showed us the future at St. Lucia that Satoko rejected, rather than sitting through all those recaps explaining explaining the obvious. Say, for example, Gou could have ended at episode 16 with the Satoko reveal, then Sotsu could have started with the flash-forward and Satoko meeting Eua/Featherine and then spent its second half on this battle of wills. And sure, some stuff would have needed explanation beyond inference, but that could have been done during flashbacks to extend the battle of wills between both Satoko and Rika and Eua/Featherine and Hanyu. Seriously, what the fuck even is this? The fact that Sotsu has been so thorough in recapping everything makes the trigger for Rika finding out the truth seem utterly nonsensical: if Satoko can control her emotions to fake the panic attacks in the CPS arc, why would she react to the box to give herself away like that? It outright contradicts the change we're shown Satoko go through as she continues to loop and give in more and more to her power (remember the "battle of the Satokos" where we saw witch-Satoko "kill" normal Satoko?). I also couldn't help but laugh at Satoko being able to lift and throw a fucking taiko drum during one of the loops; how much does one of those things weigh? Probably close to as much as Satoko herself, right? The full-on magic fight scene was actually done pretty well, and it makes sense within When They Cry as an overall universe, but it feels so weird to actually see this sort of thing in Higurashi, even as Sotsu has moved towards the magical. Also, I'm impressed at how effectively they conveyed Featherine's power in that scene where Hanyu broke free: seeing it from Hanyu's perspective, not seeing exactly what Featherine does but seeing that she's in full control does a far better job of conveying her power than anything else they could have done there. I guess we're in for an interesting finale to somehow resolve this mess, but I really don't know how I feel about what Gou and Sotsu have ended up becoming (besides my suggestions on how it could have been formatted instead of this). |
AtavisticSep 24, 2021 6:25 AM
| Yes I loved the 360 shot in the beginning... Hell Yeah This is the best Episode... Higurashi Madoka Magica let's go... Lol Lmao It's so Ridiculous, i love it... the way they transitions between the loops and all the reference Locations, bring back the Nostalgia. I have so many laugh watching this episode, definitely very entertaining... |
davidyodo24Sep 24, 2021 7:06 AM
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Chargecoulomb said: Guys. Onikoroshi hen the new upcoming Manga features K1s Kid apparently. Im dying. Ryu why?  Hes literally writing a story about k1s kids, whats next? Grandkids. This is how they will milk Higu until the end of time. of course they will milk it if there is an audience for it. It's all business. lol |
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| What does that even mean? What kind? I...we just know that we see you in every anime hating regardless of content. |
| I HATE STUDYING WAHHHHHHHH murdermurdermurdermurder that aside this episode was pretty entertaining I guess |
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