Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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| Anyway, people in Lugunica always hide information about pretty much anything (from Rosswall to the Fruit Seller). So avoiding to questioning Subaru is just a signal of respect. Since Subaru was not raised in that world he should act in another way. The lack of interest to use the rare oportunities to gather information sometimes is annoying (and it will get worse in a couple episodes or less). Some users speaking bullshit about rewatch seasons, cant tell a moment that Subaru really tried to understand how or why he was summowned to this world, what is the 1st thing in mind to every Isekai character (the second, to characters who are not reincarnated, is usually how to return). In his defense can say that when he was going into this route... then... Emila, then, obsession. |
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| Decent epdisode with lots of misteries waiting to be revealled. |
Rob7 said: Anyway, people in Lugunica always hide information about pretty much anything (from Rosswall to the Fruit Seller). So avoiding to questioning Subaru is just a signal of respect. Since Subaru was not raised in that world he should act in another way. The lack of interest to use the rare oportunities to gather information sometimes is annoying (and it will get worse in a couple episodes or less). Some users speaking bullshit about rewatch seasons, cant tell a moment that Subaru really tried to understand how or why he was summowned to this world, what is the 1st thing in mind to every Isekai character (the second, to characters who are not reincarnated, is usually how to return). In his defense can say that when he was going into this route... then... Emila, then, obsession. He's literally no opportunities to do this tho. He also basically has no leads to how or why he was summoned other than what Beatrice told him. It s not like other isekai where all or nearly everything conveniently explained or handed to those characters so they have search fro info at all. Its not common from people to come from another world to begin with so there logically wouldn't be any resource about it. |
Jagd84 said: He's literally no opportunities to do this tho. He also basically has no leads to how or why he was summoned other than what Beatrice told him. It s not like other isekai where all or nearly everything conveniently explained or handed to those characters so they have search fro info at all. Its not common from people to come from another world to begin with so there logically wouldn't be any resource about it. He has met an actual lead in S1, hasn't he? It's just that in that skipped carriage ride scene with Priscilla from episode 12. Following which Subaru kind of made himself unapproachable by everyone soon after and got busy trying to survive through the loops. P.S: I'm unaware of anything beyond much of Arc 4 however, so I don't know if that person is confirmed to be what they are. |
KreatorXJul 11, 2020 1:19 AM
ChainxBastard said: dasprn said: Wasn't Crusch's arm cut off? How did she had it attached? Was it Subaru's re: that changed it? Felis healed her arm. How isn't that obvious? Subaru did the re again so I thought something changed the other time. So Felis can heal detached limbs? |
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dasprn said: In season 1 he survived an explosion. Attaching an arm is child's play for him.So Felis can heal detached limbs? |
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| Everything going downhill for Subaru pretty much instantly....Yep, Re:Zero is back. I dont like Subaru at all because of how over the top he acts(and i dont mean when shit hits the fan, but by how he acts when everything is fine, like when he tryes to act 'funny', for example), but god damn, this show likes to fuck him up to the point where i dont even mind him being the MC, even if he ends up getting a harem i wouldnt mind that much...the poor bastard kind of deserves it more than every other isekai MC out there due to the ammount of suffering he goes through to try and keep these girls alive. |
mozgow said: dasprn said: In season 1 he survived an explosion. Attaching an arm is child's play for him.So Felis can heal detached limbs? It's ***magic*** Magic can solves anything, except when it don't. Plot. |
Rob7Jul 11, 2020 5:22 AM
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| I only started watching ReZero this year and haven't read the light novels but I read many spoilers online so I didn't wait as long as other people. I'm glad that the year I decided to finally watch it is the same year season 2 came out. Only started it back in March 2020 when the quarantine began. I really enjoy the story. I'm a little put off by how Subaru wants to marry both Emilia and Rem. I doubt he'd be happy if Rem and Emilia had other people they wanted to be married too as well. I'm just sick and tired of these dumb harem elements in most isekai. It makes sense why he loves them both but it's still stupid because it's in almost every single isekai I've ever seen. Love the new characters. I'm looking forward to the new enemies. Petelgeuse was on a whole nother of insane and evil. Subaru kind of pissed me off. He's getting upset at Ferris for wanting to dissolve the alliance but he couldn't even offer some words of assurance that he would do his best to keep Crusch safe. Of course, it's natural for Ferris to worry about his mistress. I felt sorry for him when he cried. |
ApawtheCorgiJoJul 11, 2020 5:49 AM
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Bibimbapski said: A love triangle is not the same as a harem. At this point in the story, only rem loves him. Emilia doesn’t love him back despite him saying he “loves” her.I only started watching ReZero this year and haven't read the light novels but I read many spoilers online so I didn't wait as long as other people. I'm glad that the year I decided to finally watch it is the same year season 2 came out. Only started it back in March 2020 when the quarantine began. I really enjoy the story. I'm a little put off by how Subaru wants to marry both Emilia and Rem. I doubt he'd be happy if Rem and Emilia had other people they wanted to be married too as well. I'm just sick and tired of these dumb harem elements in most isekai. It makes sense why he loves them both but it's still stupid because it's in almost every single isekai I've ever seen. Love the new characters. I'm looking forward to the new enemies. Petelgeuse was on a whole nother of insane and evil. Subaru kind of pissed me off. He's getting upset at Ferris for wanting to dissolve the alliance but he couldn't even offer some words of assurance that he would do his best to keep Crusch safe. Of course, it's natural for Ferris to worry about his mistress. I felt sorry for him when he cried. |
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AmoDesenioXines said: Wtf? Steins;Gate is my favorite anime of all time and didn't notice anything similar to steins;gate during the episode The Main protag losing Rem and killing himself over and over again to save her The desperation he felt really similar to Okabe in some ways Subaru keeping the pain for hilmself because he can't/(don't want to ) say about it to the others The 1st part of the episode was okay but on the 2nd I really had the feeling of watching SG with an Isekai filter, if with even all of that you don't see the similarities I can't do anything |
Tuti_Jul 11, 2020 7:28 AM
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rakp333 said: tutiflo said: Meh didn't liked it, felt like mid S1 all over again and just some Steins gate ripoff at some points I'll continue to follow it to see if it's getting interesting or not, but considering I didn't liked the end of the 1st season and if it's just the same thing again might drop it This was supposed to be the last episode of Season 1 in 2016. Its a bit misleading on what this season will actually be about. Season 2 will be pretty different from what you've seen so far. This is when the actual plot of re:zero will start to thicken and few important things will be revealed. It will also connect the dots between many events in Season 1. Thanks you for all the informations ! It's giving me more hope for this season, I'll look forward to it, I get it better now if it was supposed to be the end for season 1 because it give somehow more hype for a season 2, but it's true that nothing is out yet and we'll have to see how it all thicken together |
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MSK3 said: tutiflo said: Meh didn't liked it, felt like mid S1 all over again and just some Steins gate ripoff at some points I'll continue to follow it to see if it's getting interesting or not, but considering I didn't liked the end of the 1st season and if it's just the same thing again might drop it "It uses time traveling and has elements of tragedy. Must be a Steins;Gate ripoff" - some Steins;Gate person I'm not talking about all the series btw but this particular episode, the 2nd part especially I'm not gonna list the points because I don't wanna lose time with you but if you really don't see any similarities in the 2nd part of this episode with all the stuff in SG, I really can't do anything for you, try to not be that blind |
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AmoDesenioXines said: tutiflo said: The Main protag losing Rem and killing himself over and over again to save her The desperation he felt really similar to Okabe in some ways Subaru keeping the pain for hilmself because he can't/(don't want to ) say about it to the others The 1st part of the episode was okay but on the 2nd I really had the feeling of watching SG with an Isekai filter, if with even all of that you don't see the similarities I can't do anything Everything you just said about the similarities between both shows are actually positive points for me. I watched Steins;Gate first and I just loved it, then I watched Re:Zero and also loved it. Just because Re:Zero came after Steins;Gate doesn't mean it's a ripoff, they just use time travelling/looping as a main plot point of the series, ever watched Groundhog Day? In my eyes you're just too much of a Steins;Gate fanboy that you think every other time loop/leap/travel show is a Steins;Gate ripoff. (not to blame you, Steins;Gate is a masterpiece but it doesn't mean everything else is a ripoff) Ever watched Back to the future ? lmao it's not just the loop travel, but there is a little much more than just loop travel similarities in my opinion lul And I'm sure that if I hadn't had that kurisu profile picture, you wouldn't treat me as much as an fanboy, it's an easy argument but no that's not how it works, even if the authors did steal without knowing it it's still a ripoff in my opinion in isekai world, it's not a problem if you can't see it I won't blame you |
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| I like that the show isn't rushing things, but its still surprising at how this episode barely dealt with the bit cut from last arc's finale. One thing, I'm glad the quality hasn't dropped one bit, I guess that the studio is really taking this seriously. |
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"The 2nd part of this episode" Huh what, were you watching the same show as I was? The second half was talking about cutting off an alliance between the two parties, and then Subaru being comforted by Emelia. How is that similar to Steins;Gate? It seems like you don't understand somethings, so I'll explain. There are, in the least, two core differences between the mechanics and execution between SG and RZ. (1) Time Travel Mechanics : Re:zero operates on a single timeline, wherein Subaru is sent back a certain amount of time each time that he dies. Only his actions can change the present future if he dies and returns to a set point, but he cannot change anything that occurs before his timeline reset. For example, in this episode, when he sees that Rem is dead/comatose, he attempts to go back in time to save her, but cannot because the point to which he returns is after her death. This is completely different from the mechanics of Steins;Gate, where there are many parallel worlds (world lines). Depending on what Okabe does to change the past, he appears into a different world line. In Steins;Gate, the events of a world line are predetermined, and cannot be changed no matter how much one may try (ie. Okabe trying to save Mayuri and failing). However, when Okabe changes world lines, unlike Re:Zero, large scale events from a the very far past may be affected. These events include things like Ruka becoming a girl, and Rumiho's father not being dead. The main goal of Okabe in SG becomes not changing the world line he is currently in, but being able to somehow enter a world line in which all that he wants (both Mayuri and Kurisu) exists, so the way in which the time travel aspect is utilized in each series are not very similar. (2) Character Progression as a Result of Time Travel As a result of the mechanics of Re:Zero, the only way that the future at hand can change is if Subaru changes. Unlike Steins;Gate, when Subaru goes back, only things that are direct results of Subaru's actions can change the future. If Subaru keeps ending up in the same situation over and over again, it is usually a result of his own weakness. Examples of this would be when Subaru kept on dying at the Roswaal mansion or when the Witch Cult would always end up killing Emelia and the people in the village. The only way he can change these events in by fundamentally changing how he acts, and developing his character to become less of a pathetic human being. He can only change his actions if he confronts the flaws that cause those actions. Therefore, Subaru's progression as a character is reflective of whether or not he is able to find solutions to the time loop problems he finds himself in, and can be modeled by something like a slowly rising slope. Steins;Gate's story, on the other hand, revolves around the same explicit time period for the entirety of the show. The only "loop" that Okabe is in, begins when he sees the time machine crashed into the side of the building in Akiba, and ends when mayuri dies, kurisu dies, or when he is able to save both of them. It's not as though he cannot exit the loop; he chooses not to because he is dissatisfied with what occurred within it, and willfully chooses to re-enter it in order to try to save those that he cares about. In this way, Okabe's character regresses with each passing failure to save the people he cares about. At points, he displays borderline insane actions, and becomes extremely self-depressive. In this way, Okabe's character can be modeled by a downward slope that keeps going until it hits the ground. Only when he reaches rock bottom can Okabe save both Mayuri and Kurisu. As shown in the examples above, the way that the characters interact with and develop as a result of time travel are clearly different. Whereas Subaru is mainly fighting against his own inner demons, Okabe is mostly fighting against a figment of fate. The way that they develop as characters in relation to time travel also reflects this point. (3) Some Other Smaller Things (A) - Re:Zero takes place in a fucking fantasy world inhabited by humans, elves, anthropomorphic animals, huge white flying whales, and evil cult people. Steins;Gate takes place in a relatively normal akihabara setting in Japan. (B) - Re:zero's antagonists are usually much more explicit than that in Steins;Gate. In Re:Zero, it's almost always a person or group that the characters are fighting against (Elsa, the Witch Cult) in the larger conflict. In Steins;Gate (as I already said) the conflict is not so much with specific things or people (ie. CERN, the subway system that kills Mayuri), but with the predetermined fate of the world line. (C) - Generally, the larger casts of each show are not similar at all. There aren't any really any characters that overlap with each other from both shows. Even the leads, despite both having ties with time travel and such, are not very similar in terms of personality or character. Hopefully this clears up your misguided conclusion. As a fan of both shows, it gets annoying when people say stuff like this, so I hope you change your mind (not that it's likely at all). |
When You Finally Get Some Rem Sleep |
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| So unfortunately someone had already spoiled that Rem fucking dies in the first episode, so it didn't hit me as hard since I was expecting it. Anyways, I felt like the pacing of this episode was a little... off. Like, the episode felt really "cramped". I feel like they should've made it a 1 hour long episode like last time. And as for what I feel about Rem, well, I am a Rem fan, but I think she got enough time on the spot light in the first season, and I welcome Emilia being on the spotlight in this second season! Like, all I'm saying is, there's no reason to cause drama over it. |
dartnamo said: not really much happened and the only thing that threatened to change (the partnership between Emilia and Crusch) ended up normally. Nani?! Are you serious? Nothing happened? - OP Regulus (Greed) casually wipes out that entire army, without even moving one inch from his place. - Gluttony claims that the white whale was just their "pet". - "Rem.exe" stopped working. - Crusch's save file (memories) got deleted. - Subaru's checkpoint already updated beyond all this. - Puck vanishes after dropping some obvious foreshadowing "I'm counting on you to take care of Lia" (No, I haven't read the novel, but I feel there's more to it, why will Puck say that to Subaru at such a time otherwise?) Lol. I can't imagine what else you were expecting? :P |
otakode said: So unfortunately someone had already spoiled that Rem fucking dies in the first episode, so it didn't hit me as hard since I was expecting it. Well... You were fed "fake" spoiler then. She just got put to sleep (REM? Sleep? Am I the only one who find this humorous? :P). Also, there is a distinctive difference between her "just" put to sleep without anyone but Subaru having any memories of her, and her dying and nobody remembering her like it happened once with the White Whale in S1. Now there is still hope that she can be recovered (maybe killing Ley will fix her?) in the future. It's very convenient plot device, removing "best girl" from the plot for now, so that the protagonist can focus more on his "canon waifu"/heroine and suffer more? That's my guess at least. I have read a bit of WN (the beginning of arc 4) and I wonder how different some events will be. I fear that there won't be enough episodes to fit the entire plot into S2 without cutting content (some events were cut from S1, 1ep worth of content or so). |
| You achieve the true freedom only when there is nobody left to oppose your will. 駆逐してやる！この世から一匹残らず！ -- Eren Yaeger |
rakp333 said: Whaitea said: I have read a bit of WN (the beginning of arc 4) and I wonder how different some events will be. I fear that there won't be enough episodes to fit the entire plot into S2 without cutting content (some events were cut from S1, 1ep worth of content or so). The anime adapts the Light Novels. WN is just a rough online draft and LNs are the canon published thing. The LN version of Arc4 is a lot more compressed and polished as the author removed/modified some unnecessary or bulky stuff from the WN. Arc4 in the LN is around 6 volumes (Season 1 covered Arcs 1-3 which was around 9 LN vols). So the pacing will be much better than Season 1. 24 episodes will be enough to adapt it imo. Ah... Thanks for the clarification. In that the case, my worries have been significantly lowered. :) I wonder how long it will take for the author to finish the story... 5 more years perhaps? |
| You achieve the true freedom only when there is nobody left to oppose your will. 駆逐してやる！この世から一匹残らず！ -- Eren Yaeger |
Whaitea said: I wonder how long it will take for the author to finish the story... 5 more years perhaps? Can't say for sure actually. If the anime hadn't come out in 2016 the story would have been complete by now. The author finished around 50% of the story in 4 years (2012-2016). But ever since the anime came out (in 2016) and it became popular so the author has been very busy multiple things. Going by the pace LNs are released each year right now (around 3 LN volumes) it will probably take more 7-8 years. But if he sets aside other works and focuses on this, then it can be finished in 3-4 years I guess. |
Whaitea said: otakode said: So unfortunately someone had already spoiled that Rem fucking dies in the first episode, so it didn't hit me as hard since I was expecting it. Well... You were fed "fake" spoiler then. She just got put to sleep (REM? Sleep? Am I the only one who find this humorous? :P). Also, there is a distinctive difference between her "just" put to sleep without anyone but Subaru having any memories of her, and her dying and nobody remembering her like it happened once with the White Whale in S1. True but for all intensive purposes, she's dead at the moment and won't be returning for a while. I know that this is a plot device, that's why I said I'm not that angry. I think Emilia does deserve to be on the spotlight this time. |
| What an intense episode. 5/5 |
| Quite boring episode. What's the point to pretend Rem is dead for good when everybody can guess there's a way to bring her back? She'll probably wake up after they defeat the new priest. I didn't even need to read the novel to figure that out. |
Darken-san said: Quite boring episode. What's the point to pretend Rem is dead for good when everybody can guess there's a way to bring her back? She'll probably wake up after they defeat the new priest. I didn't even need to read the novel to figure that out. uhm....nah, no...not gonna happen sry to crash the party but we enter the serious part so yeah.... |
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I? |
KreatorX said: Jagd84 said: He's literally no opportunities to do this tho. He also basically has no leads to how or why he was summoned other than what Beatrice told him. It s not like other isekai where all or nearly everything conveniently explained or handed to those characters so they have search fro info at all. Its not common from people to come from another world to begin with so there logically wouldn't be any resource about it. He has met an actual lead in S1, hasn't he? It's just that in that skipped carriage ride scene with Priscilla from episode 12. Following which Subaru kind of made himself unapproachable by everyone soon after and got busy trying to survive through the loops. P.S: I'm unaware of anything beyond much of Arc 4 however, so I don't know if that person is confirmed to be what they are. Yeah I know about that. Its not really a lead because as he said, he doesn't really know than Subaru does. rakp333 said: Dragloncon773 said: I wouldn't say polished. I think Arc 4 WN was better than LN just because some scenes that were cut out were pretty freaking good. Agreed. Some of the cut out scenes were pretty good. But it doesn't change the fact that those scenes were unnecessary/unimportant in the grand scheme of things (entire Arc4 is probably just 15% of the overall story). Tappei wouldn't have removed them if they were important connecting to plot threads or events in the future. And by "polished" I meant w.r.t writing and dialogues for the scenes common to both WN and LN. The dialogues & narration feel more crisp and meaningful. Plus the LN has plenty of new and good scenes that weren't the WN. |
Jagd84 said: Yeah I know about that. Its not really a lead because as he said, he doesn't really know than Subaru does. Ah, okay. For some reason (gut reaction perhaps) I thought he was hiding stuff from Subaru about what he was up to ever since, similar to how Reinhard lied when Subaru asked him if he knew about Emilia in Arc 1. lol |
| Oi. Here we go again. Also, as tradition.... REM BEST GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
Somelip said: ... Please tag your post as spoiler. |
Pretty much, to be in the spotlight is to suffer in this series. lol |
fullofregrets09 said: Yeah, I gave it a 4, even though it’s my favorite anime at the moment and I’ve been waiting for four years for it and have rewatched so many episodes and theorized so much. I wanted to be fair. 5 for me if like episode 15 or 18 of last season. I think people are just glad it’s back and went a little crazy. 4/10 literally means "bad" and 5, "average". If it's your favorite series at the moment one would expect 7 or even 8 at least, maybe 6 if you're unsure of your score. |
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