Apparently hating on MHA is 'COOL' now-a-days.

Buggbot3000 said:
Or maybe, just maybe, what if people genuinely disliked the premise of MHA and they were trying to express their views on it rather than outright hating it to hop on a bandwagon? Fans like you are the reason why the MHA Fandom get a lot of hate, and well deserved hate too. Gonna be real here, I believe MHA is mid. And while you may not care or might just call me toxic too, I'll explain my thoughts so you don't get your pants in a twist.

The first season itself is pretty decent, I have no complaints but at the same time it's just so generic. And while being generic isn't exactly the best excuse, I believe shows can be generic and be meant to please to shonen fans of executed right. Take a look at Black Clover. On fact, Black Clover is a great comparison for how MHA fails to captivate in creating its own thing by branching off tropes. Deku for one is an insufferable character because his cries and screams for help are just irritating. He has no quirk, he feels useless DESPITE having the strongest quirk of all time, he complains and acts bratty. Meanwhile Asta, has no magic, gets the strongest magic thing available and yet he doesn't complain or whatever when he's utterly defeated. A good example is that one episode where he's feeling down because he may never be able to fight again, but he cheers himself up and tries his best to keep going on. But with Deku, it's either just him crying until he gets over something or whatever, not really pleasing and doesn't expand his characterization that much.

Another thing I don't like, handling of side characters. While you may disagree because Bakugo, Todoroki or Deku are your faves, I think the side characters need more screentime. Specifically the funny crow guy. But also, a lot of the class dudes are so irrelevant I don't even remember them until they were mentioned in the recap episode in Season 5.

Finally, the tone of the series is way too positive and cheery and the concept of heroes fighting is just taking a superhero comic and making it into a manga. I don't really care enough to explain about this because I should probably get to voicing why Season 5 isn't that great.

Season 4 ends off in the most anticlimactic way possible, a festival. A FESTIVAL. Right after the whole dark arc (for MHA standards at least lol), we get brought with a filler arc. Not that good of an idea imo, plus Season 5 is really draggy in the sense that there's nothing productive going on. Episode 2 gave us a bit of more insight on Deku's quirk and whatever but it was kind of just an exposition dump and there was nothing too interesting outside of that specific part. And from what I've seen, it seems like they're setting up another tournament arc? Almost as if we haven't already had two arcs like this before. It's just not interesting, and I don't even care about that blue or purple haired guy, he's one dimensional anyways.

TL;DR - characters are bland/not enough screentime, pacing is too draggy and the premise itself isn't that new.

i_m_a_con_man said:
Well popularity does brings haters and toxic users and not only MVA the JT arc is also good and I am a manga reader.

They are just insecure that MHA is a good written show and is popular than their favorite anime. It is just a typical toxic moment in now.

i_m_a_con_man said:
Well popularity does brings haters and toxic users and not only MVA the JT arc is also good and I am a manga reader.

They are just insecure that MHA is a good written show and is popular than their favorite anime. It is just a typical toxic moment in now.

Sakuta002766 said:
"Apparently hating on MHA is 'COOL' now-a-days"

Don't act like other series doesn't gets hate

Even hating on big 3 cool nowadays

yareyareda said:
Despite the fact that we're only a few episodes in, I see a lot of reviews saying how this is ALREADY the worst season when we're still just warming up. Manga reader here and I can bet, My Villian Academia will mark the peak of BNHA but I feel like it wouldn't matter at this point because it seems like the rule is to shit on MHA without even watching it.

i_m_a_con_man said:
I didn't imposed my view on anyone and this was a reply to the OP. It was my view that I enjoyed the current JT when it published.

Avicebrons said:

Stop it. Rationality and logic is not allowed on here. If my favorite show isn't doing well, there needs to be a villain pulling the strings from behind the scenes that is causing it. I'm the main character of this universe, and if anyone disagrees with me, then that means they're haters or trolls. And I proclaim that MHA is a flawless masterpiece.

But seriously. Almost every single fan I see of this show dismiss any and all criticism by just calling people "haters" and saying that they just dislike it because it's popular and blah blah blah. They really can't handle criticism.

Buggbot3000 said:


Yeah and it's funnier that this whole thread is just a circlejerk of MHA fans grouping together and saying that everyone else is dumb for having an opinion and not liking the current season because we haven't seen MVA. Like dude, we're supposed to judge based on what we've seen, we're not psychics and we can't tell what happen in other arcs. The bottom line is that people find this arc boring but I guess people are just too ignorant.

Maxxzs said:


Re-reading your criticism and especially your character analysis of Izuku, I feel like you’re really off the mark. I feel as though much of his moments of feeling useless was indeed in situations where he was relatively useless. For example, when the whole first season and much of the second consisted of him not being able to control his quirk adequately. He felt useless because his quirk was not versatile enough for any sort of consecutive combat because one fight would absolutely obliterate his body at the time. In addition, not being able to help Eri when he so desperately wanted to in season 4. Simply having One For All does not make such feelings invalid. I feel as though your character analysis of Asta in contrast is very generous. This is an example you made in your description of his character: “when he's feeling down because he may never be able to fight again, but he cheers himself up and tries his best to keep going on.” I don’t know about you, but that character description sounds extremely one-dimensional and shallow to me. You can critique all you want, but when your critiques are flawed in of itself, maybe they aren’t worth acknowledging by the “circle-jerk” in these forums.

Buggbot3000 said:


It's more of the context to that scene that makes it as impactful as it is. Asta's whole shtick revolves around not wanting to give up but when faced with a situation where he quite literally can do nothing but give up, it takes a toll on him. He's also been hiding his sadness of not being able to do anything anymore from his friends and putting on a mask to act like he's all happy and stuff. Whereas Deku just has constant crying and moments of uselessness, like we get it but maybe express other things as well? He's just a typical "useless but I'm going to do my best" shonen protagonist and it's really not that interesting. Different strokes for different folks I guess but Deku's "personality" along with his attempts at solving moments where he's in trouble is just so appalling. But maybe I'd have to take it a step further because clearly one character wasn't enough. Let's take a look at Bakugo. He's constantly bullying Deku for being weak and doing the most unnecessary things to annoy him. He literally has no reason to do this until that one moment where he finds out that All Might acknowledged Deku and gave him his power. Now he feels useless or insecure about something and wants to pick a fight with Deku yet again. Sounds familiar? Hint, hint, Vegeta? They're literally the same character, and hell, I'd say Vegeta is a better character than Bakugo. And I despise a lot of DBZ's cast. Todoroki I don't have too many complaints about because he's pretty solid as a character but I cannot stand Deku and Bakugo.

Maxxzs said:


I feel as though your criticisms read more as opinions than actual criticism. “constant crying” doesn’t feel so valid when almost every aspect that he’s useless in, he’s attempted to improve in or compensate for. For example, again learning how to redistribute one for all with training from Gran Torino so he can consecutively fight. Constantly shifting his fighting style from season to season as his quirk takes a progressively higher toll on his body. And again you missed the mark on Bakugo, he doesn’t feel useless or insecure merely because All Might acknowledged Deku. Rather, Bakugo feels that the entire situation that led All Might to lose his power is essentially his fault. It’s the burden he’s carrying that leads him to lash out to Deku before their fight in the third season you mention.

Buggbot3000 said:


This isn't good writing though lol. If a character is always in the same situation and doesn't ever grow, then they're not really developing. If Deku's whole characterization revolves around him being useless in every fight and then going "Plus Ultra" or whatever at the end of the day, maybe that's not good for Deku as a character? Just because he changes the way he fights does not mean he's not any less useless as he was before because he always ends up crying or yelling out in despair over something. Quite frankly, it's irritating to see when he's been through all of that training and such and still acts like a 7 year old that didn't get the candy he asked for at a grocery store. Also I watched the Bakugo fight and he's clearly yelling in frustration about the fact that Deku's growth is much higher than his or whatever. Also he lashes on Deku because he thinks that it's his own fault everything happened? Wow, great character writing. Also I know this is off topic but a lot of MHA fans tend to hate on Endeavor and shun the idea of him getting a character arc. But when Bakugo literally bullies a "helpless" kid for 4 seasons straight, it's all okay because he's Bakugo. The MHA Fanbase has double standards lol. But whether you take whatever I say as opinions or criticism, the point still stands that people may not like a series for specific reasons. And OP is acting like they're just trying to act cool to dislike a show that OP loves a lot, it's funny.

Maxxzs said:


When did I say that’s all there was to Midoriya’s development. In all of season 4 and the second half of season 3 he isn’t useless in a fight whatsoever beginning or otherwise. He adapts to the situation in said fights and makes contributions. Me stating his development from being previously useless in the prior situations was to disprove your notion that all he just constantly cries to overcome a situation. He’s not always in the same situation. When he learns to redistribute one for all in the second season with Grand Torino, it’s a lasting change. It changes his entire method of utilizing one for all so he doesn’t absolute destroy himself as he’s using a fraction of the power. It’s what allows him to adequately fight stain in that season. Honestly the way you describe his character as just yelling in despair and crying is kind of disingenuous.

And if you watched the Bakugo fight, doesn’t he explicitly state how he thinks his fault for the reason why All Might lost his power basically crying while saying so. He lashes out because it’s all he can think to do. As can previously be seen in the prior seasons, It’s not in his personality to just talk about his feelings.

With the note about the fanbase, I don’t think I even mentioned it them at all. I was just going through this thread and read your criticisms and decided to point out the flaws in them.

That’s about it.

Buggbot3000 said:


Deku is a pretty boring character lol. He only goes through two emotions, confidence that he gets out of nowhere or just utter hopelessness. You're overthinking his simplicity as a character by showing random instances that he's actually a really good character, when in reality he takes a trope and butchers it. I still stand by Asta doing the whole "no powers" trope better. Asta is constantly working hard to protect people and get stronger but Deku never actually learns from his mistakes, he gets strong here and there and doesn't cry, but overall he doesn't adapt his powers in a unique way that actually makes me go "wow, this is neat". Oh, he shifted his powers from his arms to legs? Big deal bro, that's just changing the style of fighting, he doesn't actually do anything inventive with the ability itself, probably because One for All isn't really a good superpower, to begin with, and isn't creative in the slightest. Deku is literally just cardboard but you smeared some half-baked emotions to pass him off as a character.

Bakugo is still a pretty bad character I think, he's just a typical bully that got surpassed by the guy he bullied. Cool, I don't really care. He's just way too irritating and always just loud and annoying, I dislike his character. But if you're gonna go out of your way to say that he's actually a well-structured character with many layers, you do you I guess.

That's all I have to say.

Maxxzs said:


“I smeared some half-baked emotions“. This is such a stupid thing to say as I literally stated the events that happened in the show. It’s not like I imposed my own feelings on his character. What I described were all events that happened within a character arc. While all you do to support the notion that “all he does is cry to overcome the situation” is just repeat that same sentence over and over again. “He only goes through two emotions” Citation needed on that one, brother. This is something that’s provably false within watching the first episode. You’re not actually proving anything in any of your “critiques”. You just make some blanket opinions on the show and try to pass them off as criticism.

Ultimately, while I read your supposed critiques of this show it becomes clear to me that you’re not really well-versed in trying to criticize or compare anything.

“Cool, I really don’t care. He’s just way to irritating and always loud and annoying”

That’s not a criticism again, that’s an opinion. You really don’t have anything meaningful to contribute in the way of actually critiquing a piece of media.

strangeweeb1118 said:
I don't hate MHA i hate MHA fans

Buggbot3000 said:


Or maybe I have actually stated my criticisms and you nitpicked the specific ones that you disagreed with in order to say my whole critique as a whole doesn't make sense? People have different things that annoy them and pointing those out counts as valid criticism. Someone not liking a character because of their personality or another disliking their voice is all fair play when you're reviewing a show. And MHA's characters are not that engaging at all. I don't know why you're just trying to dismiss my claims and act like what you're saying is objectively the truth, when clearly you're just grasping for straws here. Here, let me give you a more solid critique. Deku is generic and he does not define himself as a unique character yet, as his tropes are just the tropes that multiple shonen protagonists have used in the past, it's nothing innovative.

But the characters weren't my only gripes. I stated other stuff such as the focus of side characters, as well as the tones and originality. But of course, you can just ignore all of that and focus on one specific thing and act as my whole argument has fallen because of it. Well played buddy.

_Lyborick_ said:

I want to chime in just a bit and want to say that power ups is not character growth. He does not change the way he reacts rather continues on the same way but just now with the ability to defeat villains. The battle against Overhaul could have been the perfect chance to justify why he is the chosen one, showing good growth. But, the series goes ahead and says Deku is the chosen one because he has the power of god and anime on his side, which stagnates his character. I don't want to continue further because I'll get sucked into the debate, which I don't want to do.

Buggbot3000 said:


Or maybe I have actually stated my criticisms and you nitpicked the specific ones that you disagreed with in order to say my whole critique as a whole doesn't make sense? People have different things that annoy them and pointing those out counts as valid criticism. Someone not liking a character because of their personality or another disliking their voice is all fair play when you're reviewing a show. And MHA's characters are not that engaging at all. I don't know why you're just trying to dismiss my claims and act like what you're saying is objectively the truth, when clearly you're just grasping for straws here. Here, let me give you a more solid critique. Deku is generic and he does not define himself as a unique character yet, as his tropes are just the tropes that multiple shonen protagonists have used in the past, it's nothing innovative.

But the characters weren't my only gripes. I stated other stuff such as the focus of side characters, as well as the tones and originality. But of course, you can just ignore all of that and focus on one specific thing and act as my whole argument has fallen because of it. Well played buddy.

Maxxzs said:


Didn’t I clarify that I was focusing in the flaws of your criticism. There are things I can agree with, like the treatment of side characters. But the flaws in your criticism are in the things I mentioned before. I didn’t say I’m analyzing your entire blurb of attempted criticism. I’m looking at the parts that were flawed. Imagine going to a teacher with an essay you got a grade on and asked why they pointed out the things you got wrong. That’s exactly what your doing right now.

Buggbot3000 said:


Bro? These are two completely different things. Besides, teachers don't dismiss the value of the whole essay even if there are parts in it that they might find iffy. But you're acting like my entire argument doesn't exist because of one point. Also, I'm not being marked or anything for this. I'm just stating my thoughts on this show, I don't know why you're so pressed over it.

Maxxzs said:


I don’t really think him learning how to redistribute his quirk in the second season was just considered a power-up. Midoriya realized that using his quirk the way he was trying to before wasn’t equitable. He couldn’t just 100 percent smash his way through every single situation at the time. So he took initiative and tried to understand how to use his quirk further, I think this reflects development from not wanting to consistently be reckless in every single little situation.

As for the fourth season, that’s a different story.

But you bring up some great points.

_Lyborick_ said:

I would have to disagree. He is still as reckless as he was in the very beginning as he is currently. In season 1, he did not know how to control his power so he cracked his fingers. In season 2, he gets an okay understanding of his power, but now he disregards all protocols. In season 3, he lose both arms in combat but continues fighting. In season 4, disregards instructions of future vision dude, and tries to save little girl then. Every season he is reckless as ever. The only thing that changes is his combat ability, which is powering up. And I get that being reckless is a trait for shounen shows but he's way too reckless. 60% of it could be avoided. It, also, reduces the impacts when the time calls for being reckless in the face of powerful villians.

AnimeLeviathan said:
"I see a lot of reviews saying how this is ALREADY the worst season"

You mean this:

slimepoop said:
Probably because to anime only watchers the series has been on a steady decline. I feel like I’m wasting my time right now watching tbh.

Devil_Food said:

It literally had the highest premiere of the entire site history. What decline are you talking about?

slimepoop said:
Probably because to anime only watchers the series has been on a steady decline. I feel like I’m wasting my time right now watching tbh.

el3mel said:


So true. I just feel there has been a big decline in quality ever since All Might retired. Before that the show was super fun, don't get me wrong, not a masterpiece or anything but great show to have some mindless and pure fun. Once All Might retired, the next 3 arcs adapted in the anime have ranged from outright bad to average at best and this arc seems to be another average or above average one.