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AlexConrado said: Ultrabook said: The characters themselves in star align even discussed topics that are never found in anime, and if are, are never explicitly stated. One of the characters quite literally said that they think they're non-binary, and their character development was based off of them discovering their gender identity (alongside tennis obvs). you don't even see much Western fiction talk about non-binary identities. and then there's also another character's mum's boyfriend too. I'd say that that anime did much better in bringing up non-cis identities issues than wep. the way the characters react to all different things, including the LGBT things, is too unrealistic, i still think WEP did it much better what sort of unrealistic things? you've been talking about the anime not representing the community well but haven't provided any things you saw as bad representation or non-realism. WEP had a single trans character who was misgendered as a girl by putting him in the wep program for girls and girls only. I don't think this will be elaborated on in the series and that this is an accidental yet serious mistake when it comes to representing trans characters. He will probably also never appear up again. |
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TimMarcus said: Is it confirmed 2 last episode or there is eps 13?? At this point, 12 is really the last episode. Btw, this 10th episode already has put the cards on the table for the climax and end of the plot. It is not the 1st time a series includes a recap in the regular episode count. |
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| I genuinely gasped at the end. Momoe deserves so much better. I started crying over Panic too. I'm disturbed, but very interested to see where WEP goes from here. |
| As someone whose died more than few times in lucid dreams, that ending was actually kinda relatable. I've definitely been scared to fall asleep. The inevitably of it can really suck sometimes. Also TRANS RIGHTS!! :D |
Jpl79 said: you don't need tell me lmao I already been knewrevxdd said: I feel like Japan is getting more progressive over the years. Not gonna lie I kind of want an anime that focuses on the Highschool life of someone with Aspergers but it's probably never gonna happen. But let me tell you attending high school with Aspergers is not the most fun thing in the world.wow a trans person in an anime that isnt played for laughs, never thought id see the day great episode imo, i hope momoe is ok 😭 also yeah for sure lmao, some recent anime have rly surprised me w how progressive they have been |
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| So Acca and Ura-Acca are human?! Momoe's friend was resurrected. But what the hell is that monster! |
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SomeNewGuy said: To make things simple. The girls needs to accept the death of their loves ones and acknowledge the existance of Thanatos and not try to fight against him. Only then can they achieve balance in life and move on. Because without Thanatos, there can be no Eros. Only with Thanatos, Eros can exist. As for marthyrdom itself. I believe in society it's an issue not only, but most commonly observed in women. Most likely this is why there are only girls in the anime and almost no boys as the anime is trying to highlight this problem and create awareness of it. Thanks for posting this! If this is the path the writers would took for explaining the entirety of the story, I honestly won't have a problem with that. I just hope they can properly wrap things up in the span of 2 episodes. |
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| A Momoe-centered episode. This anime is really tackling things that we should talk about and be aware of. Momoe finally cleared the mission and brought back her friend Haruka to life. BUT, WTF?! WHAT HAPPENED?! Panic was killed and eaten by a girl with a butterfly head, and fed Momoe the meat of Panic, her pet/child?! That ending is really shocking! Thanatos is Sawaki-sensei? Frill who? Two episodes left and this is still getting more fascinating!  |
crowcommander said: RobertBobert said: So you're saying that a gay will not be attracted to trans straight girl who hasn't made the transition? inevitably, it depends. if a gay man sees a trans girl, mistakes her for a man, and is attracted to her, well, that's life. if he finds out that she's a girl then maybe he'll lose interest, or maybe he won't. none of that makes him not-gay, just like a straight guy mistaking another man for a woman and being attracted to him doesn't make him any less straight. i don't think the guy who asked her out, kaoru's confession, or any of the girls that have expressed an interest in her have any bearing on her gender. given how brazen* they are depicting kaoru as a trans man, the ambiguity with which they're treating momoe's gender MUST be intentional. like you pointed out, she's shown to have a feminine body, and she wears a bra, but also it's suggested(?) that she has/is developing an adam's apple, and she wears masculine clothes despite wanting to be perceived as a girl, but also she clearly owns feminine clothes and just doesn't wear them except for that one date, and i don't know??! it's hard to tell whether she's intended to be a trans girl half-in the closet and hiding it from her mom, or a cis girl who likes dressing masculine and is struggling with the expectations that society puts on her. i'm not sure which fits the narrative better either. *to me, the trans flag colors on his jacket jumped out immediately. i thought, "oh, that's kind of heavy-handed, isn't it? he already uses boku and dresses halfway between schoolgirl and crossdressing kid detective, is the jacket really needed?" but it seems like that imagery doesn't stick out to everyone, especially people who aren't trans or don't know a lot of trans people. the explicit visual cues are nice, actually. (though it just brings up more questions about momoe, right??!) Um, do you understand that biological gender and gender identity are two different things? I am not attracted to guys, but I can be attracted to a beautiful trans boy, even if he does not identify himself as a girl. @SomeNewGuy Feminism is not the best way to justify another show with an all-female cast. Not to mention, men have worse suicide rates. |
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| My heart couldn't almost take it. I feel sorry for Momoe's pet,arrgh. That ending. Good thing the ED is there to save my mood. PS: Neiru is really pretty with that hairstyle. |
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Aizawa_IRL said: Ultrabook said: Kaoru literally said "I'm a boy"; boys can get pregnant too yknow? You're right that Momoe is definitely a girl though. "Boys can get pregnant too" HAHAHAHA hehe.. just realized that Science defines Female gender as the gender which has the ability to give birth and male as the gender which doesn't.. so i'm ROFLing here.. |
Kayle_x_Morgana said: The fact that you can only name one anime just shows that there isn't enough representation.RebelPanda said: First? What? Momo appeared in the beginning. The first confirmed trans character appeared... and she was raped then consequently committed suicide. Trans representation couldn't get worse than this just short of Dressed to Kill. coreynj said: I'm so happy that trans people are finally starting to get representation in anime! And in a light that isn't offensive! That never happens, oh my god I'm so happy. The only other anime I can think of that comes *close* is Fruits Basket, but with differences. Regardless, it's great to see trans people getting more positive representation. Japan's acceptance of trans people must be improving at least a little lately. There was a anime in 2011 that the protagonist was transgender. Did you forget that? |
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coreynj said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: The fact that you can only name one anime just shows that there isn't enough representation.First? What? Momo appeared in the beginning. There was a anime in 2011 that the protagonist was transgender. Did you forget that? What do you expect? .06% of the population deserve to be in 60% of all anime? |
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| what a beautiful yet traumatizing episode what the helllll i'm not ready for the finale!!! |
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| My theory here (sorry, bad English) TL;DR A mind transplant experiment being successfully executed. https://twitter.com/KitsuneNerike/status/1372610561184309250 |
Kayle_x_Morgana said: coreynj said: The fact that you can only name one anime just shows that there isn't enough representation. What do you expect? .06% of the population deserve to be in 60% of all anime? Ignore the above example by saying "huh, just one?" it's such an old demagogic trap ... Which one of? There are quite a few comments from other people here, so I get confused quickly. |
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ArtPrado said: RobertBobert said: So you're saying that a gay will not be attracted to trans straight girl who hasn't made the transition? This question @RobertBobert I see. Well, as far as I can see, I replied that they may be attracted to the biological sex, in response you wrote that at first you misunderstood me and I decided that the issue was resolved. |
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| I love that they added LGBTQ+ themes to the show. Especially directly mentioning it. Make me love the show even more! |
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WockioTockio said: peaswar said: it also basically confirmed that Momoe is in fact trans Did we even watch the same thing? Why would Momoe dress like a boy when she wants to be seen as a girl? Isn't that the literal opposite of what transgenders do? Masculine girls and tomboys have always been a thing, you're seeing things where there's none. Not to mention that this episode revealed that what Acca and Ura-Acca take into account when picking soldiers is their biological gender, if the transgender was there despite feeling like a boy then Momoe obviously wouldn't be there if what you said was true. Hmm.. It's important to know that clothes doesn't determine gender. Also, a lot of trans people aim to pass as the opposite gender, yes, but also a lot don't intend to "pass"! Especially so for nonbinary folk who still fall under the trans umbrella. If Momoe is a trans girl it is perfectly fine for her to dress "masculine". c: |
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RebelPanda said: Perhaps a better story could have been created for trans representation. However, it is not wrong to think that these types of stories exist in real life.The first confirmed trans character appeared... and she was raped then consequently committed suicide. Trans representation couldn't get worse than this just short of Dressed to Kill. |
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| Compare to last episode this episode is way better, seeing episode 9 I thought WEP have lost its track but this episode prove me wrong, And I can't wait for the next episode , koito's cause of death will finally be revealed probably RIP Panic |
| So many things happen, I don't know what to say!!!!! All characters are so pretty/handsome here ❤️ Momoe is the prettiest girl and handsome at the same time!!!!!! How dare him to react that!! I really feel bad for her :( I don't know why, but it feels like that sensei like Tae because Ai and her looks alike. He can't be too obvious so he date the mother instead. Also, I don't understand!! Did Momoe's friend alive or what? So because the statue is alive now, they need to die? |
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Rachiba said: These stories need to be told, sexual violence is a large part of the world, especially for trans people. This probably wasn't the way to do it. I get a little skeptical when a one-off character has 3 traits, rape victim, committed suicide, and is trans. I'm not trans so take that with a grain of salt, but it came close to self-indulgent forced misery.RebelPanda said: Perhaps a better story could have been created for trans representation. However, it is not wrong to think that these types of stories exist in real life.The first confirmed trans character appeared... and she was raped then consequently committed suicide. Trans representation couldn't get worse than this just short of Dressed to Kill. |
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| I'm genuinely surprised they decided to play the usual bubbly ending after that. |
| It was confusing. Momo was really cute this episode. I kinda already had a hunch that the painting would be of Ai. Sawaki is still so mysterious. We might finally get to know the truth about Sawaki and Koito next episode. So, by that ending, I feel like this whole thing wouldn't really bring back those dead people but instead would lead the person who wants to bring them back to have suicidal thoughts. This Japan Plati may have some kinda secret motive like the Gracefield in Yakusoku no Neverland. I guess they need people to commit suicide to create something. There must have been more ‘candidates’ before Ai, Neiru, Rika and Momo. I couldn't really feel that much emotion for Panic but I feel bad for Momo. I hope she's OK. Really what was that butterfly shit head. After that messed up ending they really decided to end it with that happy-go-lucky song XD |
| Almost every WEPisode, a struggling person gets validated and it just feels so good. (I guess the exception would be the idol-fans arc but the animation and cuteness was good enough to compensate.) Momoe is a fucking badass and it was so satisfying to see her and Kao-something acknowledge each other's identities like they did. I'm someone who lukewarmly supports trans rights but doesn't really think about it very much. However, god damn, I was cheering for both of them so hard. Bummer that immediately following that, Momoe had to have her spirit broken by death itself. And then cue the upbeat ED. The weird contrast kind of reminded me of Sora no Woto's AIJOU YUUJOU after certain episodes ended on super emotionally heavy notes. More generally, I'm really glad that each side character has gotten her own episode, all of which have been well-made and emotionally poignant. However, Ai has basically been relegated to a supporting character ever since her sprint back to school in the rain, and her story advancing bit by bit in these episodes has been underwhelming to me. As a result, I'm having trouble staying emotionally invested in her struggle at the same time as everyone else's. I understand that this is pretty much a zero-sum game, and that Ai getting more development would have to come at the expense of Rika's, Neiru's, and Momoe's, but I wasn't really able to care that much about what happened to her this episode despite really liking Ai as a character overall. I'm hoping that she will get enough quality time in the spotlight in these last two episodes for her arc to resolve without the show's plot getting too much in the way. |
| This was seriously the best trans representation I've seen so far in anime besides Zombieland Saga. For context, Momoe (a trans girl) helps kids who have committed suicide by entering a "dream world" where she helps them overcome their trauma so their souls can pass on to the next life. In this case, she meets a trans boy named Kaoru who had killed himself after he became pregnant from his teacher who raped him after he told him he was transgender. Momoe has struggled with her identity because everyone who has been interested in her, always saw her as a boy and not her true self. It also seems like Momoe is actually just interested in boys, not girls like the ones that fell for her before which means she's a straight transgender girl. Kaoru was the first boy to like her as a girl since the first boy to ever ask her out mistook her for a boy. Both of them wore Trans Pride colors through out the episode! It was absolutely beautiful. I'm going to pretend everything after that never happened. :) |
JotakakMar 19, 2021 8:45 PM
| this ep made me cry so hardd :( |
| Just finished watching it. It's finally getting interesting after 9+ episodes. I'm sorry but I just can't get behind the girl claiming to be a guy inside. |
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