| @LARGEWOOD Sweety, if you took the time to look at the episode discussions, you'd see that you're completely wrong and @ssjokg and @Vell- are right. I know that you're just trolling, but come ooon, at least try to hide that fact lmao. |
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LARGEWOOD said: For the sequel part, no, i don't feel like it was finished, there would still be some unanswered things, that's maybe fine for you but imo i want to know everything about the story, i don't like being left with questions. Why is it ? Go ahead, this is a forum and you seem to know better, you have all the time in the world to explain yourself. So much talking about "opinions" and "arguments", yet here I am still waiting for the answer.You can keep your opinions, we'll stick with facts. PS. Actually re-reading your OG post, it's so wrong it doesn't even count as an opinion. |
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| Yeah this show had a ranking in like the 2,000s. Now it’s in the 3,000s. I’m pretty upset about this too because the last month and a half of episodes have been absolute fire. I couldn’t be more invested if I tried. It makes me sad because I’m assuming a large portion of Gous audience is veteran fans, and since Higurashi isn’t as big as other heavy hitters like, say Re:Zero, I was hoping we would band together and be a silent but large minority. I didn’t think Higurashi needed a remake when this was first announced, though I was excited at the prospect of it getting more fans, and I thought the art style was atrocious, I tuned in because I love Higurashi. When it became clearer and clearer it was a sequel, I just got more and more invested and was happy I’m getting to enjoy another Higurashi adventure, uncertain of what would happen next just like when I watched the originals all those years back. Ever since the Rika and Satoko stuff, Higurashi has peeked for me at a level it never did before, and it really hurts to see fellow Higurashi “fans” beat this show down when the originals have such a high rating. This is some amazing story telling and I thought the rating would improv now that were not retreading stuff from the previous seasons but I guess not. |
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| @ViktorLocke 2)Some fans accept Gou just because they want to make theories about what is going on. I dont agree that Ryuukishi isnt a genius. But something went wrong with Gou. 3)Being a extremely violent and unrealistic are different things. Satoko torturing Rika is made in such a stupid way. A chandelier dropping on two kids doesnt make a fountain of blood, making deep cuts on your neck doesnt happen on the first try. 4)She has no pockets. And she is a 9year old. A gun's shape would be visible and with Rena being so touchy all the time it would be felt as well, not to mention that they change clothes for PE and run around for their games. There is no way she can hide it without anyone noticing. |
| @ViktorLocke 2) Hunting for clues means that the original was basically a murder mystery, where you could find the clues and solve the events (to some extent atleast) 3) The way, amount and ease of blood splatters is unrealistic, tho this is anime so I'll give it that. However that Rika's disembowling scene, I don't understand how that wasn't unrealistic and logic defying ._. 4) Did you see the size of that gun? That ain't going into little girl's pockets. But yeah, otherwise good enough points. |
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| In Hindsight it feels like Ryuukishi wrote Gous summary in a small piece of paper, added Featherine lookalike and a Ciconia reference then shipped it to Passione. When I read the Vn all those years ago it suprised me hiw much Ryuukishi tends ti foreshadow things. This is very very prevalent in Umineko, but can be found in Higurashi as well. In Tatari there were signs pointing to Takano being not really dead. Even though Keichii was under L3-L4 symptoms at the time. How she acts is a big red flag. Hanyuus existence is of course hinted at in Onikakushi. Mion and Shion being swapping places with each other is foreshadowed in Onikakushi. Rika's alcoholism is slightly hinted at in the staffroom segement. They straight forwadly say that the curse is not real in the staff toom as well. Leaving a human culprit. This is just what I recall from the top of my mind there are probably many more hints. Of course the staff room was not adapted to the VN, but there are many things you could gleam in the question arcs. (The Console exclusive question branch arcs have a metric ton more hints) Higurashi is not a fair mystery. It was not meant to be one after all. Ryuukishi took on external influences as well. (The alien stuff in Takanos writing was the byproduct of Ryuukishi watching alien movies) You can still gleam a fair bit if you pay close attention. In Gou it was painfully obvious that Satoko was lying / pretending. Espscially in regards to her uncle. They were not hiding it at all. To anyone who has read or watched Tatari its 100 precent apparent what really happened. There is one solution that I can think for the gun. If Rika is not the queen carrier then she would also be capable of going L3-L5. She *could* be Hallucinating. Although its very unlikely in the context of that scene. Girls in my school used to tape phones to their legs under their skirts. Heck in one instance people slid them in their underwear. Satoko could have very well done the former. (Disregarding the bulky Size of the Gun) Featherine exists.... so I guess in theory she coukd have magicked it into Satokos hands for fun. |
ChargecoulombMar 3, 2021 1:38 AM
| Yeah of course it is possible, but the thing here is, it was late evening and Keiichi's parents weren't coming home in until tomorrow? If you get stabbed like that, you can survive if you get help, but I don't see K1 getting help any time soon. However, I think it's about unreliable narrator and didn't actually happen. Technically, you're right. But now that I'm typing this, wasn't the OG Higurashi a bit unrealistic in its violence? For example, in the very first scene of the OG Higurashi, Keiichi was beating his friends to death with a bat. The blood was splattering to the walls. I understand your criticism, but at the same time, I mean...it's anime? Shouldn't some unrealistic exaggeration be okay? I feel that a bit of unrealistic violence is not that much of a problem. I just rewatched the scene and.. I don't know if it's due to the ridiculous excessive splatters and such that we've seen in GOU, but it looked quite realistic to me.Compare that to Tataridamashi K1 beating Teppei, it's really like night and day. Unrealistic isn't bad, it can even be good on portraying these things, but stupidly unrealistic is just stupid. Chargecoulomb said: Staff Rooms? You mean those one you unlocked after completing the chapters?They straight forwadly say that the curse is not real in the staff toom as well. Leaving a human culprit. Of course the staff room was not adapted to the VN, but there are many things you could gleam in the question arcs. (The Console exclusive question branch arcs have a metric ton more hints) There is one solution that I can think for the gun. If Rika is not the queen carrier then she would also be capable of going L3-L5. She *could* be Hallucinating. Although its very unlikely in the context of that scene. Girls in my school used to tape phones to their legs under their skirts. Heck in one instance people slid them in their underwear. Satoko could have very well done the former. (Disregarding the bulky Size of the Gun) Not fair to say they were straightforwadly admitting the curse isn't real, it's not a hint. The cast was split between the Curse and Human factions showing their own perspective opinions and debating on it, much like how the forums were at that time. Rika hallucinating the gun is just ridiculous (tho I guess I wouldn't put it past GOU at this point) Satoko could indeed have wore it in her pants, that's really nothing new. But taping it in her leg, that's a no. Despite being bulky, guns are heavy, looking at the type it's around 1kg and you don't simply just tape 1kg in your leg so that it sticks. (you can try this at home, see how long it works out) People who use pistols use holsters which are attached to your belt for a reason. Ofc she could have rigged it in someway that goes beyond just taping it, but I don't see that, just as I don't see the gun. |
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ViktorLocke said: ssjokg said: 3)Being a extremely violent and unrealistic are different things. Satoko torturing Rika is made in such a stupid way. A chandelier dropping on two kids doesnt make a fountain of blood, making deep cuts on your neck doesnt happen on the first try. While I liked how Satoko's torture of Rika made me cringe (in a good way), but now that I think about it...how the hell was Rika alive for so long during that torture? In the first arc of this anime, when: Technically, you're right. But now that I'm typing this, wasn't the OG Higurashi a bit unrealistic in its violence? For example, in the very first scene of the OG Higurashi, Keiichi was beating his friends to death with a bat. The blood was splattering to the walls. I understand your criticism, but at the same time, I mean...it's anime? Shouldn't some unrealistic exaggeration be okay? I mean, Higurashi Gou is basically about a 100 year old woman inside a 9 year old girls' body who's been time looping, among other crazy stuff. I feel that a bit of unrealistic violence is not that much of a problem. But I agree there is a point where I can't suspend my suspension of disbelief; like in those spoilers I posted just now. . The stabbing scene could very well be Keichi's hallucination. But seeing what Gou did after that episode we can even doubt that unfortunately. As Hulio said, that was realistic compared to Gou. At the very least, I was focused on a boy murdering two girls laying on the floor instead of the blood. @Hulio @Chargecoulomb I very much doubt that Satoko can hide a gun in her pantsu or thigh highs without it falling in any activity or Rena feeling it. Or pulling it out so easily. Well, if she can control matter to activate traps from a distance then projecting a gun is fair game right? |
| if you ask why the ratings dropped, why you say?? Because this Anime is old school, because this is an reboot from over a decade or so.. |
Linux_2020 said: if you ask why the ratings dropped, why you say?? Because this Anime is old school, because this is an reboot from over a decade or so.. Except that it is a sequel. Not a reboot or a remake. And even if it was it wouldnt matter. With this logic Rebuilt of Evangelion should have the lowest score possible. How about Dororo? 50 freaking years, shouldnt even have an entry in MAL anymore with your logic. |
LARGEWOOD said: ViktorLocke said: I mean...couldn't you try reading the criticism of the anime? Such as by reading a negative MAL review? As someone who watched the OG anime, I'm starting to kind of agree with the lower rating; Gou doesn't really offer anything new in the way of Higurashi lore and whatnot. It's just a cash grab. Like, I don't think there's any real incentive to watch Higurashi 2020, unless you just want more Higurashi; because there's nothing really important introduced that expands on the universe. Hasn't much of the conflict of Higurashi always been miscommunication, though? I think Rika has tried to reason with Satoko, by trying to help her with school; but Satoko is too lazy to study in her school, but doesn't want to be apart from Rika. Now because of a certain incident, Satoko believes Rika sold her out. I'm curious, what do you think Gou is doing to extend the story of Higurashi in a meaningful way? Then why did you reply? That's a very...condescending way of labeling MAL users. But, whatever: Higurashi is an incredibly iconic anime, especially among more active anime watchers; as in, people who REALLY love anime. I think that most people are aware Higurashi isn't a SoL; especially by the ending of the 1st episode of the OG anime, and the 2020 anime. I kind of agree, but this anime to me is like junk food; it's pointless to eat, but it's kind of fun? "Hunt for clues?" What does that mean? Higurashi has always been extremely violent. But I don't understand how this anime is violent in a way that defies logic. Couldn't she have been keeping it in her pocket though? Yeah, that made no sense. At the point we are in the anime, it's still a flashback; Rika hasn't quite learned Satoko is you-know-who. Satoko is also a child with an abusive background; she's not exactly the most mature, or the most mentally stable for that matter. Plus, she's practically the closest thing to family Rika has left. I agree. >I'm curious, what do you think Gou is doing to extend the story of Higurashi in a meaningful way? If you watched Kai until the end, you know there is more to the story, i know you people didn't even watched the previous seasons and just came to bash Gou for whatever reason, perhaps the ones i quoted. >Then why did you reply? You're taking it out of context, there was more than just this phrase in my reply, pretty childish of you for resorting to this because you don't have any arguments. All those pointless comments, still not a single argument to why Gou is bad, but i don't know what to expect from people who just repeatedly say "U WRONG GOU BAD" using red colors to try being more impactful, that literally made me laugh out loud. Oh boy. Here we go again mates. There is nothing more to he story if you read the VN. Specifically Sui and or Kizuna. Everything solely related to Higurashi is answered and confirmed. The alternative and branching question arcs provide us with more questions and hints to said questions. They tie up everything perfectly. Tomoes arc shows us the after effects of Hinamaizawa Disaster and ties into the events of Natsumis arcs. Miyuki extends the Tomoe arc's view of the Hinamaizawa Disaster Nagisa offers us insight into Rena's character and her backstory. Natsumi shows is the effects of the HD and the Oyashirosama curse outside Hinamaizawa. Hanyuu's backstory is fully explained along with Ouka and the origin of the Oyashirosama legend. Alternate endings are explored and realised in the form of Miotsukushi and alternate endings. Bus stop gives us a view into Higurashi's first form. Hou arcs adds an alternative view to the story along with its own ending? Mion revisits Hinamaizawa after the disaster z giving her some nice Character development. Extra fanservice arcs from Rei and so on. Extra Staffroom segment to put a nice now on everything. Kai is conclusive as it is. Miotsukushi the arc that you're supposed to experience alongside Matsubiriyashi ties up things even better. Many people her have read the VN, watched the Anime and even read the Manga. I dunno what you're on about. Are you stuck in an echo chamber? Arguments against Gou? I like Gou, but if you think that liking Gou makes me ignore it's faults then you are delusional my man. Liking Something = / = Not criticizing it. Many people here have made arguments against Gou. Instead of making us write walls of text and wasting our time why don't you try to give a rebuttal? Instead of saying that there is no good criticism. |
ChargecoulombMar 3, 2021 5:32 AM
Hulio said: Not fair to say they were straightforwadly admitting the curse isn't real, it's not a hint. The cast was split between the Curse and Human factions showing their own perspective opinions and debating on it, much like how the forums were at that time. My fault. I could have misremembered it, but don't they try sacrificing Tomitake to the swamp? I think they do, and it apparently doesn't solve anything? Maybe it was just a skit. |
ChargecoulombMar 3, 2021 5:42 AM
Rixtertrixter said: You actually do, many references and hints of a logic error(from umineko) and(spoilers) they straight up show a character from umineko, heck they even reference goddamn ciconia The only thing Featherine does so far is set Gou into motion and reference Ciconia. (So Far!) Gou is still about Rika and Satoko. The Featherine look alikes identity is ambiguous for now. She will most likely call herself Oyashirosama until the duration of the series. To enjoy Gou you do not need Umineko. From what we've seen until now anyway. It could produce Bern ( Keyword could, there is some reason doubt to it as well) or Lambda (once again reasons to doubt exist) or even both. |
Rixtertrixter said: You actually do, many references and hints of a logic error(from umineko) and(spoilers) they straight up show a character from umineko, heck they even reference goddamn ciconia Random references that contribute nothing and deeper understanding of Umineko lore arent needed to understand why Satoko does what she does. Do you need to know what happens backstage in order to understand a movie? Meta world and the plot of Gou is the same thing. You dont need to know that this is potentially the logic error that created Bern to understand what is happening. Featherines appearance is no different from Hanyuu's first appearance. And for anime only people she is nothing more than the "Oyashiro-sama" that Satoko was talking about in ep16. Umineko fans get more enjoyment(not me tho) but that doesnt make Gou's plot hard to understand for those that havent read Umineko.Or Ciconia. It absolutely makes sense. |
Rixtertrixter said: ssjokg said: Random references that contribute nothing and deeper understanding of Umineko lore arent needed to understand why Satoko does what she does. Do you need to know what happens backstage in order to understand a movie? Meta world and the plot of Gou is the same thing. You dont need to know that this is potentially the logic error that created Bern to understand what is happening. Featherines appearance is no different from Hanyuu's first appearance. And for anime only people she is nothing more than the "Oyashiro-sama" that Satoko was talking about in ep16. Umineko fans get more enjoyment(not me tho) but that doesnt make Gou's plot hard to understand for those that havent read Umineko.Or Ciconia. It absolutely makes sense. Yes it makes sense for newcomers, I never denied that, I just said it’s a WAY more enjoyable experience if you know your 07th expansion, Also these aren’t just throwaway references, featherine(don’t deny she isn’t, she literally used child of man, which no character apart from her uses) literally mentions the spinal cord specimen LD3105 (LD for lambdadelta who I’m pretty sure is satoko (look it up on Reddit I saw a post explaining this somewhere) and Vier referring to the character Vier Dressig from ciconia. I personally believe GOU is about how rika and satoko became bern and lambda Yeah I get all that but as someone that read Umineko, Gou pisses me off even more. |
LARGEWOOD said: Chargecoulomb said: Oh boy. Here we go again mates. There is nothing more to he story if you read the VN. Specifically Sui and or Kizuna. Everything solely related to Higurashi is answered and confirmed. The alternative and branching question arcs provide us with more questions and hints to said questions. They tie up everything perfectly. Tomoes arc shows us the after effects of Hinamaizawa Disaster and ties into the events of Natsumis arcs. Miyuki extends the Tomoe arc's view of the Hinamaizawa Disaster Nagisa offers us insight into Rena's character and her backstory. Natsumi shows is the effects of the HD and the Oyashirosama curse outside Hinamaizawa. Hanyuu's backstory is fully explained along with Ouka and the origin of the Oyashirosama legend. Alternate endings are explored and realised in the form of Miotsukushi and alternate endings. Bus stop gives us a view into Higurashi's first form. Hou arcs adds an alternative view to the story along with its own ending? Mion revisits Hinamaizawa after the disaster z giving her some nice Character development. Extra fanservice arcs from Rei and so on. Extra Staffroom segment to put a nice now on everything. Kai is conclusive as it is. Miotsukushi the arc that you're supposed to experience alongside Matsubiriyashi ties up things even better. Many people her have read the VN, watched the Anime and even read the Manga. I dunno what you're on about. Are you stuck in an echo chamber? Arguments against Gou? I like Gou, but if you think that liking Gou makes me ignore it's faults then you are delusional my man. Liking Something = / = Not criticizing it. Many people here have made arguments against Gou. Instead of making us write walls of text and wasting our time why don't you try to give a rebuttal? Instead of saying that there is no good criticism. Huh ? This is the anime, not the VN. And that's all you have to say? You kept saying that Gou was adding to the Higurashi series. Sorry to say this but series includes the VN. Gou is supposed to fit in with the rest of the Higurashi series. Not just the anime. Besides that was only one part of my comment. |
| You know,this whole topic look like big bait. But, I'll fall for it. New season Cicadas it's one big one big spit in the fans' face. This is so because new season it's: The plot is so sloppily written that even fanfiction authors could have done better. Disgusting graphics and drawing, inferior even to the level of 2008. Plot. Instead of showing new unique stories. Old arches are taken and crookedly remade. The author doesn't juggle facts and innuendo like the old "cicadas". He simply shows us early stories already seen, but removes the twist element from them. Also, the author simply takes the main plot of the old arc and inserts an unreasonable plot twist, except for his own schizophrenia. Like he did in the arc with Satoki's father and the cop. But even that's nothing compared to the sh*t pile that replaces the antagonist. That fucking dumb-ass Satoko. Watch the sequence. 1) She wants to go with Rika to the same elite school. 2) She knows that she will have to study a lot. 3) She's been preparing for this with Rika for 3 years. 4) She gets into that school. 5) AND THEN SHE FINDS OUT, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 3 FU***NG YEARS, THAT YOU HAVE TO STUDY THERE. OTHERWISE YOU GET EXPELLED. 6) And instead of starting to study. It's the bitch that resents Rika. Why? Why tell me? Because she chose to follow her? Because she didn't realize in three years that she couldn't handle this school? She could have asked Ricky for help with her studies. But she didn't care. She's putting on one clown show and making a big deal out of nothing. After all, Rika is only supposed to communicate with her. Let's continue. A grand piano rolls into the plot. Nothing substantiated, no premise. It just is. And you either accept it. Or you don't have a story. 7) Satoko starts the second round. 8) She comes up with an ingenious plan. To make things right. To keep Rika from learning. So she can't fulfill her dream. Satoko isn't just dumb. She's also a selfish b***h. 9) Satoko can't stand it for long. She gives up after one day and just talks to Rika. 10) That's all. And Satoko lives the second round all over again. Just like the first. Please, just think about it. She doesn't try to change anything. She doesn't draw any conclusions. She just repeats everything again by "believing" Rika. Even Subaru wasn't that bad. 11) It happened again. Everything was the same as last time. 12) Satoko had six years. Six years to learn the high school curriculum. Six years to figure herself out. But she didn't do anything. She just studied for six years. And she finds herself in the same situation again. Think about it. Among all the other options she had, she decided to choose the one in which she had to kill her friend. In six years, that's all she could come up with. It's so dumb. I have to ask the authors. How did you even come up with this? I'm not going to write about the graphics. You've already seen everything. I hope you understand why the ratings of this anime are dropping. |
LARGEWOOD said: Well it seems like you're just a plan troll enjoying the double standards so I didn't feel like writing a wall of text for you so I'll keep it simple... About your OG Post.Interesting of you to literally repeat the exact same things i said about facts and waiting for an answer, you have yet to provide anything though, still waiting. 1. Under what assumption you base your belief that people are rating this low because they thought this was just another SoL anime. 2. MAL might not have existed when old Higurashi aired but that hasn't anything to do with anything. Watching "old" shows is a thing. There's plenty of Anime that has been done before MAL and that's on all sides of the spectrum, good and bad. If you're trying to say that older version of newer variants are better rated than the newer ones, I'd recommend you to take a look at the top animes section. Shouldn't take long until you see something newer rated better. 3. If this had more fanservice and ecchi scenes, the ratings would likely be even lower, no matter how many "coomers" are out there. Higurashi Kira is the newest season (before GOU, also done after MAL) which had the most Fanservice/Ecchi scenes yet it is rated the lowest. 4. If you think the only arguments from those who have seen the old season is "not the same" or "it changed" you just prove you haven't been reading shit that has been going down on the weekly threads. 5. I'll repeat my question which you evaded by trying to be clever. Why do you think Kai was left unfinished, and what coomer questions were left unanswered to you? Also you obviously don't know what red means. ViktorLocke said: Someone mentioned the K1 batting scene at the beginning of OG, 1st episode 1st minute so I was referring to that.I'm confused. Wasn't one of your criticisms of the 20200 anime that the violence is unrealistic? You said earlier, "The way, amount and ease of blood splatters is unrealistic." I'll say that the scene where Keiichi survived getting stabbed a bunch of times, but Rena couldn't even survive a little game of whack-a-mole, and Satoko pulling Rika's intestines, without killing her, really did not make sense. But I recall that in plenty of scenes in the OG Higurashi, when characters are killing each other, whether it be a sharp object, or even a bat, that the blood was practically flying everywhere. In fact, blood flying everywhere is I think common in anime in general? How so? Are you referring to K1 beating Teppei in the OG anime, or the 2020 one? I don't remember if it felt unrealistic or very gorey to me back in the day, but you're free to compare that Bat scene with the Tataridamashi's end scene (actually please do so, it won't take longer than a minute) and the difference is ridiculous. In short, yes I still think that 2020 is unrealistic and overthetop (or whatever is the best word for it) and the OG, atleast in comparison is actually quite realistic. And yes I was talking about 2020 Teppei, Tataridamashi - not Tatarigoroshi :) |
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LARGEWOOD said: Chargecoulomb said: And that's all you have to say? You kept saying that Gou was adding to the Higurashi series. Sorry to say this but series includes the VN. Gou is supposed to fit in with the rest of the Higurashi series. Not just the anime. Besides that was only one part of my comment. You know the anime is an adaptation right ? ViktorLocke said: @LARGEWOOD Nevermind. I made a huge post replying to you, but it's clear you're going to just keep being passive aggressive. I came to MAL because I wanted to have civil discussions with people on anime. Not discussions on whether those people are being passive aggressive or not. I agree. Wait: Kei-ichi. Ichi = 1. K1. Ah, I see what you did there, LOL! Yeah, good point there, it was very late. Keiichi lost consciousness; no one would appear until way later. I can understand the theory that it didn't actually happen; and it would probably make more sense than Rena dying, but Keiichi surviving. I'm confused. Wasn't one of your criticisms of the 20200 anime that the violence is unrealistic? You said earlier, "The way, amount and ease of blood splatters is unrealistic." I'll say that the scene where Keiichi survived getting stabbed a bunch of times, but Rena couldn't even survive a little game of whack-a-mole, and Satoko pulling Rika's intestines, without killing her, really did not make sense. But I recall that in plenty of scenes in the OG Higurashi, when characters are killing each other, whether it be a sharp object, or even a bat, that the blood was practically flying everywhere. In fact, blood flying everywhere is I think common in anime in general? How so? Are you referring to K1 beating Teppei in the OG anime, or the 2020 one? I agree. Perhaps you should re read your own comments, the slander is pretty real in there. Hulio said: Well it seems like you're just a plan troll enjoying the double standards so I didn't feel like writing a wall of text for you so I'll keep it simple... About your OG Post. 1. Under what assumption you base your belief that people are rating this low because they thought this was just another SoL anime. 2. MAL might not have existed when old Higurashi aired but that hasn't anything to do with anything. Watching "old" shows is a thing. There's plenty of Anime that has been done before MAL and that's on all sides of the spectrum, good and bad. If you're trying to say that older version of newer variants are better rated than the newer ones, I'd recommend you to take a look at the top animes section. Shouldn't take long until you see something newer rated better. 3. If this had more fanservice and ecchi scenes, the ratings would likely be even lower, no matter how many "coomers" are out there. Higurashi Kira is the newest season (before GOU, also done after MAL) which had the most Fanservice/Ecchi scenes yet it is rated the lowest. 4. If you think the only arguments from those who have seen the old season is "not the same" or "it changed" you just prove you haven't been reading shit that has been going down on the weekly threads. 5. I'll repeat my question which you evaded by trying to be clever. Why do you think Kai was left unfinished, and what coomer questions were left unanswered to you? Also you obviously don't know what red means. Someone mentioned the K1 batting scene at the beginning of OG, 1st episode 1st minute so I was referring to that. I don't remember if it felt unrealistic or very gorey to me back in the day, but you're free to compare that Bat scene with the Tataridamashi's end scene (actually please do so, it won't take longer than a minute) and the difference is ridiculous. In short, yes I still think that 2020 is unrealistic and overthetop (or whatever is the best word for it) and the OG, atleast in comparison is actually quite realistic. And yes I was talking about 2020 Teppei, Tataridamashi - not Tatarigoroshi :) It's fine if you don't believe me, you don't have to literally argue to explain it. Red is a color, otherwise please go ahead and tell me the meaning of the Red color. Also for your question, yes, you're questioning me about what happened in Higurashi, while acting like you know better, pretty crazy stuff, anyways, in the end of Kai, there is Rika from the future / Frederica with little Takano, at this moment, anime watchers probably doesn't know what's going on there, but the anime ended -without the viewer having any questions- for you, maybe you're fine with it, i'm not, and i'm sure many other people would have questions about this scene, because of how oblivious you are, here are some examples: Why is Rika from the future talking to little Takano-san ? I mean HOW ? There's a little "trap" i setup, let's see. Please watch the anime before trying to argue. @LARGEWOOD We have watched the Anime. Gou is a SEQUEL so that's a given. A decent amount of people her understand Higurashi well and are quite intimate with it. For Higurashi the red is irrelevant. It's something from Umineko. Which it's clear that you know next to nothing about. Gou is not an adaptation. Are you mad? It's original. P.S That is NOT a future Rika. You are missing A LOT of context my friend. A LOT. Did you watch the Rei anime? That's Bern. A collection of the dead Rikas. You're missing some details because the anime is an adaptation of the VN, a good one, but not 100 percent. Without the context of Umineko and Ciconia for the references you will miss a lot of things, and some things we say just will not make sense to you. You can however participate in Gou theories however you will be lost when it comes to anything related to Umineko or Ciconia. It's not required for Gou but read Umineko. At least the Manga. It's the next part of WTC after Higurashi. If you questions about 'future' Rika that will answer it. |
ChargecoulombMar 3, 2021 4:44 PM
LARGEWOOD said: First you bash people for not explaining themselves and having no arguments.It's fine if you don't believe me, you don't have to literally argue to explain it. Now you don't want people arguing or explaining. Contradiction #1 Sounds like you just try say whatever you can to defend your own flimsy arguments. Also, you probably didn't notice, but it's you who isn't believing us, not the otherway around. Red is a color, otherwise please go ahead and tell me the meaning of the Red color. Congratulations Sherlock, not sure what to say, you're 100% right.Everything else which you don't know about it, you don't know about it, nothing less, nothing more. Also for your question, yes, you're questioning me about what happened in Higurashi, while acting like you know better, pretty crazy stuff, anyways, in the end of Kai, there is Rika from the future / Frederica with little Takano, at this moment, anime watchers probably doesn't know what's going on there, but the anime ended -without the viewer having any questions- for you, maybe you're fine with it, i'm not, and i'm sure many other people would have questions about this scene, because of how oblivious you are, here are some examples: Why is Rika from the future talking to little Takano-san ? I mean HOW ? Well you just completely negated this whole paragraph yourself. Apparently according to you the viewers weren't left with any questions.What comes to old Rika talking to Miyoko, okey. Here's answer: GOU isn't answering that, hence that argument is void. There's a little "trap" i setup, let's see. InterestingPlease watch the anime before trying to argue. No u |
Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids. |
| I personally think this season is really weak, but if there is one thing I really like about this is how the story explores more, having the characters grew up, new characters, exploring the sea of fragments and more connection between the characters and Oyashiro-sama. I still like the story progression and the character's bond in the original (the curse, the mystery, the loop, the connections, and the character development played out nice throughtout the series), but if there's a chance that Gou will have a sequel, that would be nice (feels too short). Man, while this is the weakest in my opinion, this is really enjoyable. |
EsieEyenMar 3, 2021 8:15 PM
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| don't care about ratings and haven't watched the old one's but so far the show is pretty good imo i"ll try the 2006 one if I have some time |
Yuyunarutoballz said: Yeah this show had a ranking in like the 2,000s. Now it’s in the 3,000s. I’m pretty upset about this too because the last month and a half of episodes have been absolute fire. I couldn’t be more invested if I tried. It makes me sad because I’m assuming a large portion of Gous audience is veteran fans, and since Higurashi isn’t as big as other heavy hitters like, say Re:Zero, I was hoping we would band together and be a silent but large minority. I didn’t think Higurashi needed a remake when this was first announced, though I was excited at the prospect of it getting more fans, and I thought the art style was atrocious, I tuned in because I love Higurashi. When it became clearer and clearer it was a sequel, I just got more and more invested and was happy I’m getting to enjoy another Higurashi adventure, uncertain of what would happen next just like when I watched the originals all those years back. Ever since the Rika and Satoko stuff, Higurashi has peeked for me at a level it never did before, and it really hurts to see fellow Higurashi “fans” beat this show down when the originals have such a high rating. This is some amazing story telling and I thought the rating would improv now that were not retreading stuff from the previous seasons but I guess not. I agree. The last 10 episodes or so have been fire. I haven't been this excited for an anime week to week in years. I think most of it is just newcomers who were, to be fair, misled into thinking this was a standalone/remake. |
| Shoot first, think never. |
| @LARGEWOOD You have no idea how traps work. The manga goes out of its way to iterate on Frederica. However in the original VN and Anime use Rei to explain it to an extent. Did you miss the Saikoroshi episodes? I can't believe I have to explain this. It's not really an argument against me if you use the adaptation, because the Higurashi anime is an adaptation not the source. For Gou and Kira it's different. The source of Gou is the Anime. The manga is also considered. It has no source material to fall back on. It stands by itself in the Higurashi series. People won't be left with questions if they just watch the anime. Sure they will not Understand some references but they will get the gist of the story. Gou is at it core a focus on Rika and Satoko. Even an Anime only viewers will walk away from Gou with a decent understanding of the story even if Bern and Lambda are introduced, it won't really matter because for them it will be an introduction. For us it will be in reintroduction. You keep asking me to repeat the same things again and again. This argument is redundant. You haven't addressed any of my actual criticisms and are instead wasting time by making me verify things over and over again. |
ChargecoulombMar 4, 2021 3:33 AM
| someone update me on the spicy drama developing in this post pls |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| People that indeed still think its a remake and people who just like complaining... and maybe Satoko haters But yeah its a matter of preference at the end of the day... and some people just dont understand and ruin it for themselves lol |
ssjokg said: He said it in red... ohboiLARGEWOOD said: Why is it ? Go ahead, this is a forum and you seem to know better, you have all the time in the world to explain yourself. No arguments so far ! : - ) You are really wrong |
| @LARGEWOOD Go ahead, this is a forum and you seem to know better, you have all the time in the world to explain yourself. No arguments so far ! : - ) You still fail to provide any argument. It's fine if you don't believe me, you don't have to literally argue to explain it. Why do you assume that i don't want you to argue ? Nothing more to say.. Trolls be trolling. Albeit I give you that, you were right about one thing. We do know better. |
Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids. |
Pasturple said: and maybe Satoko haters Funny enough, Satoko was actually one of my top favorite characters in the visual novel. Here, however, I feel like just hearing her voice or seeing her face more is just like torturing myself |
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