| Huh, the thought of him dying didn't even cross my mind. The camera moved so fast at the end that I didn't notice the dripping blood. =/ Guess it works either way, his character arc has been completed. =P |
| hes defently died, he bled out, as far as we know that cut didnt graze him but actually cut him but the item that blocked it slowed it down for him to survive a little longer what make sme know hes dead is you pretty much see him die, he says yes boss in a tired worn otu voice as his eyes are bairly still open and when you look at him in the next frame where you see kotoro's face, you ee that nanashi has his eyes shut, hes dead |
| passed out or asleep mayhap? |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
marchefka said: thats actually a great view on it, never thought of it that way but that makes the most sense out of all ive heardNamariKirei said: I agree. If there was still blood coming from Nanashi at the end, plus the fact that it must of been jarring for him to be riding on top of that horse, I think he died. Plus there was a quick moment of sadness on the kid's face before he shook the reigns for the horse to go faster at the end. It all leads me to believe that he died, even though I didn't want him to. (And I'm being blamed for being a pessimist.) Actually, I think that Kotarou made the horse gallop because he was well aware that Nanashi was dying and wanted him to experience that "feeling of flying" for the last time. honestly i think it was outright impossible for nanashi to have survived, very bad wounds(remember the block only made the swords impact weaker, it didnt actually stop it) suffer from blood loss, miles upon miles of wilderness from a town where a doctor could save him, plus the freezing tempeture its just to brutal on the physical body to endure |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
MotokoAramaki said: I think he dies, but I hope that he lives. this |
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| It depends how you want to view the situation. If you want to think of his situation as a terrible condition, then your probably wanting a sad ending or something like that. If you want to think of his situation as a good, and non-dangerous condition, you got yourself a good ending. I think he stays alive. When the dog was sick or hurt (I think poisoned). The boy had to use horse to get the dog to medical treatment, and he apparently made it. I also thought their was scene of the dog and nanashi going through a storm to save a dog. So why not injuries of blood loss. Poison is a lot more dangerous. |
YOH-Jan 1, 2012 3:29 PM
| Its funny isn't it, how we're all giving seemingly different and contradictory theories. Some of the posts are really funny though. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| He's Schrodinger's cat. |
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| Blood does represent sacrifice, but sacrifice doesn't always have to end in death. You never see nanashi injured except when he gets him arm stabbed, and no other injuries have been mentioned in-anime. From what I've seen in anime, main characters never suffer injuries/discovery of new injury offscreen |
| His wounds didn't look entirely lethal.. but I have seen even stupider wounds then that kill people instantly in anime before that made no sense.. Personally I think hes a goner simply because..well..everyone died far to easy at the end, so he probably fell off that horsey. |
andrewl118 said: this is a stretch but hawks can represent freedom, almost all birds do because of the flight of fancy tropeTwo things I want to point out: -He says "It feels like I'm walking on top of the clouds", possibly symbolising the journey to heaven. Could've just been conversation though. -A hawk was seen following them, perhaps a sign that he was nearing death. Though...hawks don't scavenge as far as I know. And there aren't any vultures in Japan. Overall, based on other people's points, don't think he died. Him dying isnt just him dying, its him finally becoming free of the past that has haunted him for his whole life, Hes made up for the sins he has committed and is finally at peace even if it meant death. What makes me think this is that every single person involved with his past had died too, its similar to a certain show in the top 30 on this site who character died in similar circumstances |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Let's face it, any other ending and the movie wouldn't have been as great. it leaves a great impression, spurring the imagination of the viewer taking the whole movie to the next level. Instead of knowing, you're hoping, wishing, thinking what will happen after. truly a masterpiece. 10/10 |
heartless08 said: Same could have been said for another certain character thats gone through way worse than nanashi yet he didnt exactly surviveHe's not going to die of that easily. Obviously i cant say who as evne mentioning the series gives it away so the key word is "..........bang......." If you saw the series you would know which im refering to, either way the point is even the toughest characters main or not arent exactly invincible, in fact the rule pretty much is bad ass anime anti hero mortallity rate at 98% |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| From what I've been hearing the blood drops on the snow is more of symbolism. Where as before he had to dye his hair black and you'd see the black dye drip off when he washed his hair in an earlier scene the blood represents his 'red hair' so now he has his freedom and no longer has to hide his true-self. Really tough to say if he lived or died though. The 'compensation' he got for being the kid's bodyguard did 'save' his life in that moment, but it doesn't mean it completely saved it . Like others have said going to a foreign country, walking on clouds, etc. could be another show for his passage to the afterlife. It actually has a lot more things showing that he obtained his freedom and is passing to the next life versus he lives. Then they went on to say that they couldn't see the next town either.(Is positive though and says it should be close by.) I think seeing the blood drops kind of made me think in the end he died though. Judging from the time between that fight and the sunrise in the end-scene if he was still bleeding he'd probably bleed out at that point. Then Kotarou's sad expression before galloping on kind of says it too. They left it open for both sides to be content I suppose. If it were a happy ending people might have thought it be cheesy like others said earlier, but it looks like they didn't want to completely perish the thought of him surviving either. It just leans more towards him dying then him surviving. I loved it either way. |
RagixJan 19, 2013 11:24 PM
Touch me, you filthy casual~ |
| I think he died, the whole fact that he died just goes better with the movie IMO and if we're going to talk on if he should've died or not then he should've....he had deep cuts all over his body so even if he doesn't die immediately he'll die from loss of blood. Also considering the time period they're probably wasn't much they could do for all the blood he lost for him to live he would've probably needed a transfusion. edit: Woops and I forgot to mention that kids face at the end hint's that he died. |
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| after ready all this, and my own considerations i think he lives.. if he would die, there has to be much more blood on the snow.. |
| Koutaro's "payment" saved his life, what was the point of showing that if not? Not only was he stabbed with a half broken sword, the item took the most lethal part of the blow as well. Nanashi lives. |
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| i'd like to believe he lives, as others have pointed out, the sword used to stab him had no tip due to it breaking off and due to that, the jade crystal was able to absorb most, if not all of the impact, as we see it fall its not sliced cleanlly, its snapped/shattered as if struck by....the end of a broken sword. add to that, there was nearly no blood on his sword compared to the other sword which was stained red and the ending i felt was him finally feeling redeemed for his past, theres no reason he should die. i interpret it as him finally being able to rest, hes just covered a distance on foot that some of those guards didnt think their horses would even be able to cover (the guard mentions it as they ride the shortcut) then hes been nearly crushed by a falling building, killed countless elite samurai then had a battle with someone of comparable skill, and he did get quite a few superficial wounds as well as a more serious one to the arm (which is probably what left the blood at the end) of course hes going to be tired. but alas, he doesnt close his eyes at the end and the kid seems pretty confident in asking him what hell do once his injuries heal. |
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Vicis said: It's also very likely that what we see at the end isn't blood at all but is rather his hair dye coming off symbolizing him freeing himself from his past. now that i never thought of |
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eldest said: his hair dye is black not redVicis said: It's also very likely that what we see at the end isn't blood at all but is rather his hair dye coming off symbolizing him freeing himself from his past. now that i never thought of |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: eldest said: his hair dye is black not redVicis said: It's also very likely that what we see at the end isn't blood at all but is rather his hair dye coming off symbolizing him freeing himself from his past. now that i never thought of could have been a bit of both mixed together |
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| if ppl really paid attention he didnt have a single chest injury only places he got hurt at was a cut was his left leg, stabbed in his right arm, cut on his right shoulder, seeing how when they both stabbed each other he didnt get stabbed as u see the sword falls straight downward (that gem like rock thing somehow deus and kept from being a fatal stab ) if anything he got clipped in the side and a couple scratches on his face how does that lead to death if anything hes tired cuz he RAN the whole way to the boy and fought right after all that no breaks so please tell me how do u guys come to the conclusion that he died? |
After I Crush Your Dreams...... Your Bones Will Follow...... |
TwistedChick said: Now that I have my hands on the DVD, one of the extra features interviewing the original cast includes an interesting remark by Kotarou's voice actor. He basically said that he liked the final scene with Kotarou and Nanashi "as they went off toward their next adventure." Now, this is a child who wouldn't have analyzed these last scenes to death the way we have, but the fact that a statement directly saying Nanashi lived was included on the DVD, while nowhere else in the interviews is one made to the contrary, I believe holds significance. This voice actor, who'd been around the production team, director, fellow actors, ect. for months hearing their thoughts and comments on the film and its message, was 100% certain that those wounds weren't fatal. I'd like to think he really did have insight on the matter. @TwistedChick, really? You mean, there is really a statement on the DVD directly saying that Nanashi lived? Then that ends the question. Nanashi didn't die! :) Thanks for this. If possible, could you please post a picture of the DVD statement as proof? Thanks a lot! ;) |
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| Of course he LIVES. |
| I think that Nanashi doesn't die but i also think that he does. But the wound he gets are mostly away from his internal organs so there is a chance he might not have died. But the loos of blood could kill him and Kotarou expression at the last shows that Nanashi is dying or maybe he must have thought that time is running out and Nanashi need immediate medical attention and the smile at last could be interpreted that he won't still give up on him. Anyways there is a 50/50 chance whether he's D.O.A.The creator must have made the ending like this purposely so that the viewers can choose his fate. |
| I think he lives, because Kotarou needs to repay him for saving him and Tobimaru :P So saving him its the way of Kotarou repay him. |
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| i think he died too... ;-; |
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| Real life = Death 1000% Anime = 50/50 Look. Death is the correct ending for the Anime and if he survived then gg, but I am 100% the director is going to tell us he died. He died heroically saving the kid. If I was him I would search the corpse and eat one of the medicine thingies and at least feel more painless cuz of the paracetamol yo and have my survival rate go up by little. |
| Pretty sure he's dead..... :/ Kotarou's shadowed expression when Nanashi slumps on his shoulder is a "dead" giveaway. |
| Could be either way, honestly, but I'm leaning towards him not surviving before reaching the town that wasn't in sight yet. |
| Personally, as a person who hates happy endings with passion, I feel like the ending was intentionally supposed to be left ambiguous with hints going both ways. I don't think it makes much of a storytelling sense to have him die because Nanashi's journey was about redemption and moving on from his past. The empty field, the talk and the eagle were symbolising freedom. By saving the boy, he made up for his past actions and was, in return, saved by the boy (metaphorically and literally). Having him die at the end would negate half of the saving and thus the whole purpose of the "treasure". Which was a strong plot point that got the two together in the first place. It seems outright silly to just be like "Nah, forget the whole saving part, he's done dead." Also, the last track playing was very hopeful and positive, that's not a tune you would play when someone is dying. The whole ending scene symbolised a new beginning, everything from the scenery to music to character discussion. As for the blood dripping, yeah, he was wounded, of course he was bleeding. But we never saw his wound and for all we now, the last hit scratched him and he was bleeding from the wound from before. And of course the boy looked worried, I mean, you have a bleeding friend right next to you, who wouldn't be worried? Besides, that also showcased how he matured. Before, he was freaking out but this time he was much more calm and collected despite internally wanting to tear up. I would say, we don't have enough conclusive proof either way but given the positiveness of the last scene, I lean to him surviving. |
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| I think he lived. The whole talk about the treasure really being invaluable at the end and the kid was like I told you! Meant the treasure saved his life. That's why we see it fall, break in half, and only have a few drops of blood. For the blonde, and entire pool of blood falls directly below the wound Nonashi (think I spelled his name right) inflicted. The treasure played a major part in rather he lived or died. One thing about anime, little things like this makes all the difference. He would not have put the treasure in at that moment if not to represent the boy's gift saved his life. The blonde at the end.. he had a sword go through his arm and his arm was hanging loosely while they rode on the horse. I'm sure a wound like that bleed profusely. The hawk, probably the one who kept carrying messages back and forth for the one dude. |
 Going to eat your brains and gain your knowledge. |
| Oh, my God, I love this movie, it's so addictive, and the ending seems very pretty, fucking epic. |
| First, whether he lived or died is unknowable since we never find out whether they reached the town or not. Second, this movie makes a huge amount of other anime seem like shit. It is a masterpiece. 10/10 |
Lofipie said: thats hilarious blood is blood don't overlook things that don't need overlooking.Haven't you dumb mother f****** ever thought that the blood was used for its color red; ultimately, being completely symbolic? The red "blood" represents Nanashi, and the horse hooves represent the kid. God damn, take a literature class or something. |
| Where are your papers? |
| It's very hard to say but because we only saw him lose a bit of blood in the end I don't think he dies because in anime peoepl can lose liters of blood and still be fine xd. |
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